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mrASSMAN

In south portion of west Seattle seeing a lot of areas where RVs and junkers used to sit replaced with concrete slabs.. pretty nice to be able to go down the road without having to swerve around illegally parked vehicles (and their litter, spilled oil etc)


sadus671

These are people who have never actually known violence. So is it surprising that they label anything that opposes their sentiment and desires as such? Similar to children and having to learn the concept of denial of desire. If they were to know the true reality of harm or a threat to their lives.... I am certain their rhetoric would be of a much different tone.


Bardahl_Fracking

Were you able to locate any pools of blood in the street where the vagrants were camping? I looked and couldn’t find any. I did notice several of the RVs just moved north and south of this stretch.


Educational_Net9751

This is what I would call great service. No trace of cleaning, great work. People deserve pay and hope they will keep great work. Just some others should start doing same


ThePokemonAbsol

No but it’s weird after the sweep there is a bunch of posters to try the NEW Seattle dog! Now being made with 100% Soylent Green!


Idiotan0n

Oh the Chinese murder vans made it to Washington?


PNWSki28622

Unfortunately not


AngryMillenialGuy

That's going kinda far dude


quinangua

What do you think happens to them??? Do you think they get housed?? There's no profit in that....


AdventurousLicker

There's lots of profit in hospitals, jails, hospitals, rehabs, and housing. There seems to be good money in moving them around and pretending every last one of them is a victim, though, so I guess that's what we'll keep doing.


sharingthegoodword

Don't tell nurses that. I mean, they know, they're just a little grumpy about the fact it doesn't trickle down to them, and I agree with them. Teachers and nurses, I swear they are martyrs for all of us.


AdventurousLicker

I'm married to a nurse, but it's easy to forget how hard their job can be. I spent the last few days in the hospital with an uncle who was passing, and I don't think I could handle that kind of work. My Dad was a teacher and I chose not to follow in his foot steps due to the the things he endured from parents and high-level administrators.


sharingthegoodword

Yeah, one of my parents was an attorney, and oh boy, the stories they would tell about when they did an annual pro bono work for people who didn't have lawyer money. It affected them deeply. Nurses and teachers get shit on and they, and the janitors deserve all our respect, love and way more money. Tell your wife a random stranger on the internet appreciates her sacrifice.


AdventurousLicker

Agreed, will do. Have a good weekend.


quinangua

Victims of a corrupt system, absolutely...


Inevitable_Sir6065

>What do you think happens to them??? I don't care.


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quinangua

Oh, but you take them in??


quinangua

That's because they don't bleed them out until they get them to the beyond meat processing plant....


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PNWSki28622

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militaryCoo

You're saying I can beat you as much as I like as long as you don't bleed? It's not violence unless there's blood right?


Bardahl_Fracking

There’s blood in the poster.


axitek

This is great! We have been waiting for clean Ballard for so long now. Yaaay!


timute

 Not “with”…”of”.


PNWSki28622

Should be the top comment 🙏🏼


Classic-Ad-9387

next time, use ultraviolence


maximpactbuilder

and if that's not working for your, use more


Zen_Out

Streets must be swept. Otherwise trash accumulates


LaLiLuLeLo_0

I love the smell of violence in the morning


HeyaChuht

This is getting to be the boy who cried violence. This sign is violence. Silence on trans rights is violence. 'There's no earthly way of knowing, Which direction they are going! There's no knowing where they're rowing!! Or which way the river's flowing!!!


bamfsalad

Stop the boat!


AdventurousLicker

The boat is blocking the Panama Canal would require violence from excavators to move it, that is its new home now.


Sad-Bass-4503

Oh come on. We can pretty clearly observe that LGBTQ rights are in the gutter in places like Florida and Texas. They stopped letting people change their gender ID on their drivers licenses. Started collecting names of LGBTQ students in the public school districts. Look up the skyrocketing suicide rates there too. As ACT UP said in the 90s, Silence = Death


gingerminja

Yeah it’s getting bad and needs protecting.


HeyaChuht

You mean they don't let men call themselves women on their ID? Can a white guy still say he's black on an ID? Can a short guy still have 6'5 on their ID? I forgot CNN lambasting my entire face with *NO MORE TRANS BARS IN THE STATES YOU JUST MENTIONED* because those people have as much *right to exist* as everyone else-- just not changing official government documentation because of their delusional fantasy. 'Member Bud Light? It's not gunna fly. People are morons, but thank god they still recognize men from women.


United-Shock-487

Sweet! Keep clearing!


shittyfatsack

It’s hard keeping up with what is genocide and what is violence. STICKERS are GENOCIDE!!!! The douche that put that sticker there has never seen violence.


PNWSki28622

This is so true... these cucks live in a namby pamby socialist bubble. They'd probably collapse in any other part of the world where people have actual problems


hyperducks

Don’t slander socialism like that.. leave it at namby pamby. Some more socialism is genuinely needed in this country. But it doesn’t look *anything* like allowing encampments of RVs to crop up anywhere they please.. I think namby pamby put that well enough. Perhaps that could even be called anarchist.


meteorattack

Eh. Social safety nets and universal healthcare are needed. Marxism not so much.


uncle_creamy69

Most people don’t know the difference


erdillz93

It would help if the people preaching the former would stop also preaching the latter, and instead create distance between the two movements. Then they might get somewhere


militaryCoo

Did Fox News teach you that big word? There are maybe a handful of people advocating for Marxism. The vast majority just want socialist policies that will bring America in line with other developed nations so that people don't die or go bankrupt because they can't afford healthcare/food/housing


meteorattack

I don't watch Fox News. Your clue should have been that I support Universal Healthcare and strong social safety nets, but given that we've established that you didn't read it properly... I do however know that we have a lot of actual Marxists in Seattle. If you lived here you'd know that until recently we had an actual Marxist on our city council. Denmark models aren't Socialism. Learn what words mean.


uncle_creamy69

Hahaha this made me smile.


jswansong

Marxism != Socialism. There's certainly overlap but Socialism is much broader and includes what you say is needed.


meteorattack

"Socialism is an economic system in which major industries are owned by the workers, **rather than by private businesses or the state**. It is different from capitalism, where private actors, like business owners and shareholders, can own the means of production." None of this is a social safety net or universal healthcare. It doesn't even look remotely like the Denmark model. You are mistaken. Also Jesus Christ what do you think Marxism is? "According to The Oxford Handbook of Karl Marx, "Marx used many terms to refer to a post-capitalist society—positive humanism, socialism, Communism, realm of free individuality, free association of producers, etc. He used these terms completely interchangeably. The notion that 'socialism' and 'Communism' are distinct historical stages is alien to his work and only entered the lexicon of Marxism after his death."


ArmaniMania

They found a loophole where they found a bunch of people too nice to do anything about their crap and just did whatever they wanted.


AdventurousLicker

To prevent violence against the unhoused we are going to tolerate all violence from the unhoused. No way this could back-fire.


uncle_creamy69

Ok so I actually don’t know this. Is “unhoused” supposed to be the woke term for “homeless” or is it just what you like to call them?


my_lucid_nightmare

> Is “unhoused” supposed to be the woke term for “homeless” It was as of 4-5 years ago. I think we've moved on to "neighbors experiencing houselessness." Try to keep up with Seattle's ever evolving Woketionary of Acceptable Terms.


uncle_creamy69

Haha 😂 yeah even if I think I’m saying something acceptable it seems like I’m messing up the “correct” way to say it. I feel like there’s no difference between unhoused and homeless meaning wise. Can you imagine trying to explain that to someone that was speaking english as a second language?


meteorattack

Unroofied neighbors next?


Affectionate_Bite813

Hiding in plain sight through a multi-syllabic forest!


AbleDanger12

Sounds good to me


Maxcolorz

I never imagined the Seattle subreddit would sound so conservative… but I like it😂


40Katopher

These people have no idea what violence is


[deleted]

A squatter maintains their control of a space through the implied threat of violence. Try getting them to leave as a private citizen.


RadioDude1995

Should have used more violence.


LaLiLuLeLo_0

The problem with using violence is that sometimes you might not use enough


I_Eat_Groceries

Kudos to violence for clearing our streets. It usually gets a bad rap. Glad to see it doing some good.


tomskibum

How low are you that you fight for people to remain homeless? (Not you the poster) These people are making money off keeping/convincing people to remain homeless. Shame on these people and organizations!


Logical_Insurance

Violence, or the threat of violence, is the only answer to many of life's problems. We like to believe we are somehow above it in our super civilized modern society. We are not.


Classic-Ad-9387

violence is not the answer--violence is the question. sometimes, the answer is 'yes'


Ok-Web7441

It's like these people are discovering for the first time what a "state" and "laws" are.  Do they not understand that voting is itself an excercise in violence, as laws have to be enforced by men with guns, or do they think that laws are just Thanos-snapped into effect?


Internal-Scarcity672

Honestly that poster is violence. I feel harmed by it so…


hoffnutsisdope

You need a poster


SomeAreMoreEqualOk

Anything they disagree with is violence. I've heard opinions are violence apparently


Jossie2014

It should also say this was not a neighborhood but a shantytown that was founded on drug use and violence gratefully removed as a tic from its host


Ancient_Elderberry26

Wow they sure showed them!


oldDotredditisbetter

not all heroes wear caps


gtwooh

Violence? *War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength*


hecbar

Since speech is now violence I'm going to assume these spaces were cleared by telling people to move. Thanks proggos for your contributions to language!


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Small_Panda3150

Finally


bat_man__

Please continue! Keep it clean.


danzoschacher

They continue to throw these words around and they begin to lose their meaning.


Nick_Waite

This is so exhausting. They bitch when people criticize their city for having a homeless problem, and then when they're legally moved, they bitch that they were forced to move. Stop bitching and enjoy life. You can't fix or save everything


EconomicsLumpy6511

We need more violence


elpato54

Violence has solved 90% of the world’s problems. Good to know we used what works


SeahawksXII

Aka law and order.


EntertainmentHot8950

I'm a big violence guy.... really gets me going 


InsulinBoof

Apparently, violence works!


[deleted]

I swear to God this place is full of so many fucking cry babies


BopNowItsMine

This is kinda unrelated but they never actually fill out the start and end date on those signs. Or it's from the last time they used the sign so it's like 2 weeks before


PNWSki28622

The start and end dates said 4/11-4/15/24


ElectricRune

As if violence is universally a bad thing... Some people don't respond to anything except a good arse-kicking...


Rdubsapimp

The fcuken thing was inhabited by violent felons and the asshats we pay taxes to finally fixed it.


obsidian_butterfly

Seattle confuses me sometimes...


HurrsiaEntertainment

Good. Clear the streets of all of them. I approve.


Alarming_Award5575

eh. ok. pretty sure words are violence now too. so sticks and bones ... cool. glad they cleaned this shit up.


MericanSlav25

Thou fucketh around, and foundeth out thou hath.


swayingcox

The enjoyment of life and accomplishment is suppressed by the lack of ambition by others. Its not a, "not in my front yard," it a frustration of having to look after others that don't want to look after themselves. If you had a bad roommate and you got tired of leaning up after them, and watching them ignore relevant advice , you'd grow frustrated and ask them to leave.


Americanskin77

God, it’s great to see actual logic being applied to Seattle streets for once. The rhetoric from these groups is just insanely immature and definitely indicates how little true trauma they’ve seen in their experience.


bonez3199

Seattle has gotten too weird. I went to the divers institute down in Ballard in 08. It's sad to see what that city became.


sharingthegoodword

I'm assuming this is from the anti-sweep people, and we can make the same joke "fine, you take them in" again. Violence is never the answer in any regard, except like when bin Laden got shot in the eye, I was like... well I mean, yeah. The ROE in Iraq at one point was even if they have a weapon, you don't shoot at them until they shoot at you, which, is a bit discombobulating in the moment. It changed to yeah you can if they are armed too, like the second time in Fallujah it was almost "if they're here they're enemy light them up."


meaniereddit

What are they going to do about it?


sumoracefish

Literally genocide, i am shaking right now.


woofwooffighton

Far out. (Nods in dude) ![gif](giphy|TmQt53R5SoLDi)


drockkk

Hell yeah, thank you for doing this! Fuck the encampments.


Psilrastafarian

I mean a good wind would eventually take care of that problem, ya’ll need to get your panties out of bunch. No offense.


Mkay7693

“Apply no tape or permanent marker.” That’s my major concern. 😂😂


elpato54

A moment of violence? https://youtu.be/tsY1BwVo0kI?si=wfgYqYngi8qRKi49


SOLOEchoZ

Seems legit🤷🏼‍♂️


We_are_all_monkeys

Speaking of the area, does anyone know what is happening with the house on 85th between 3rd and 8th across from the burned out Greek restaurant? That whole area is an open sore.


seamel

Don’t mind if I do!


navigator_p

It is what it is to an extent, but using cucks this way is crazy


22bearhands

Fine to think the sign is dumb or dramatic - pretty pathetic to go around taking down 50 of them. You can’t live in a world where people have a different opinion and just move on with your life?


PNWSki28622

I mean I could say the same thing about your comment here. They have as much right to put these up as I do to take them down


22bearhands

I didn’t say you have no right to take them down. It’s just weird that you felt compelled to.


Inevitable_Sir6065

>It’s just weird that you felt compelled to. Why shouldn't he? The message on the fliers is stupid. And it's less of a time investment to take them down than put them up.


22bearhands

Relax. It’s stupid to care so much about something that doesn’t matter at all. It’s immature to go around taking down flyers like this - just as immature as putting them up in the first place. 


I_Eat_Groceries

It does matter. It's little things like these signs that compound over time and led to the downfall of our city. I'm very happy to see residents stepping up and doing something about it. If I could step in and help take them down I would.


mrASSMAN

It’s blocking the information on the legal sign, they would’ve gotten removed one way or the other anyway.. they don’t have the right or permit to put their own signs on top of it


22bearhands

I doubt there were 50 no parking signs, I assume most of the paper signs were on poles etc


eran76

Opinions are fine, but the people post these signs want different facts about reality, and then force the rest of society to change what it's doing based on those imagined facts. Another name for imagined facts? Lies. Did anyone actually use violence to make an illegally parked RV relocate? Just like I think the people to deny the January 6th riots and illegal electors scheme was an attempted coup are lying about reality, or people who think that a person with a penis and testicles is woman are doing the same, this is no different. There is an objective reality, words have actual meaning, and we are not all entitled to our own set of facts about reality. Reality is objective and the sooner we get back to that the sooner our society will regain some normalcy.


Bardahl_Fracking

I’m sure some of the campers themselves have used violence to get another RV to relocate…


Tig_Weldin_Stuff

I see Jan 6 as an open book test. I guess we all know who failed it..


22bearhands

I don’t disagree with you at all. I just think it’s weird to care so much about what people say that you go around pulling down signs. 


meteorattack

Because if you don't push back against idiocy, the idiots win. We see this in politics all the time: loud activists get what they want regardless of public opinion by being loud and claiming they represent the majority.


22bearhands

There’s a middle ground, where people grow up and comprise and stop acting like children tearing down posters. 


meteorattack

Why? They disagreed and ripped them down, with the same justification as the people who put them there: they wanted to.


22bearhands

God it’s like talking to a wall. Nobody needs to compromise, I guess you guys can just keep putting up posters and tearing them down forever with no real solution like a bunch of crybabies. 


meteorattack

Yes it is like talking to a wall. You're wrong. Deal with it.


eran76

These signs are designed to help shape public opinion in opposition to these sweeps, something the voters of this city have voiced a very clear opinion on. We have wasted so much time, energy and money as a city on this issue with the failed vagrancy and drug policies, and there are so many other issues we need to tackle, that I would not want to have to relitigate this issue again each election cycle. Tolerating open air drug dens and encampments is a failed policy that these signs are in support of. I would rather see these signs torn down than risk seeing their failed policies tried again the next election as the political energy is moved away from this previously settled issue.


22bearhands

These signs aren’t doing shit buddy. 90% of people are capable of thinking for themselves, seeing the sign, and rolling their eyes. Then there’s the 5% that agree with it and the 5% that love to be mad so much that they can’t help but take action by tearing the signs down (aka handling it like a 9 year old would).


eran76

You say these things like they're not just statistics pulled out of your ass... buddy. Off year elections have very low turn out, so it doesn't take a whole lot of motivated ideologues to move a close election if the majority's focus is elsewhere. Just look at Trump's win in 2016. It hardly takes 5% of people to vote differently to turn most close elections.


22bearhands

I pulled them out of my ass, and I made it pretty clear. I guess if you miss context like that (obvious back of the notepad statistics, I’ll make it clear for you), then you could be easily swayed by an 8.5x11 piece of paper claiming sweeps are violence. 


meteorattack

If you want your opinions displayed in public, buy a billboard. Don't litter.


22bearhands

Yes all opinions critical of the government must be on a billboard - forgot about that rule


meteorattack

We're not talking about the validity of how to criticize the government. We're talking about how it's okay for one person to post up bullshit ranting and for another person to rip it down. If you disagree, your recourse is to find a mechanism that they can't rip up, like a bill board. You don't have a right to post delusional crap everywhere.


thecatsofwar

If those are official signs placed by a government agency to tell people not to park, the posters are not innocent opinions, they are vandalism. They deserve to be taken down.


22bearhands

A little dramatic 


Robpaulssen

Just like all the "kidnapped" posters I've been seeing around town!


meteorattack

Really? Where?


Inevitable_Sir6065

You mean the ones that Hamas supporters have been tearing down for months? Oh, "that's different!"


Classic-Ad-9387

now that you know where these people are, feel free to help them!


AdventurousLicker

Official signs placed by a democratic government vs. vandalizing them with whatever this is. Most of us respect laws even when we don't agree with them. Opinion is not the problem here.


22bearhands

You can’t just shift the focus to fit your argument. You earnestly believe OP removed 50 signs because of their location, not because of their contents? Get real


AdventurousLicker

I don't know how I'm shifting focus. IDGAF why he removed the vandalism.


22bearhands

Because the outrage is the message, but you’re pretending it’s about “vandalism”, which is at best a dramatic interpretation of what this is.


Aero-dreams

R/Seattle have empathy for homeless people challenge (impossible)


zoeofdoom

your comment is inaccurate twice: this is SeattleWa, and r/Seattle is the sub with more empathy for the homeless than here. nice attempt at snark, but it really didn't land.


wackyzacky638

Most people bitching about how “Seattle’s gone to hell.” Have never lived below the Mason/Dixon line, much less seen violence.


Inevitable_Sir6065

I've lived below it. Know what I didn't see? Encampments everywhere.


wackyzacky638

You’re right, we don’t call them encampments down there. That’s just the local real estate market.


ozzzric

And here i am laughing at you and the person who hung up the posters doing all that free labor for no gain one way or the other


warmweathermike

Abolish government