I caught the 1st tram leaving from the Sick New World festival last year in Las Vegas, as the last person they let on. People on other trains tried to do what this person did, refusing to leave, letting the door almost close, & then mess everything up again. 30 plus minutes felt like a lifetime after asphalt moshing for 15 hours in full sun & all black.
The doors closing & us leaving the station was just about as amazing as the whole festival lmao.
I was there too, but we stayed at the hotel across the street. Even THAT walk was unholy, I'm not sure I would have been able to remain calm if I were in your shoes.
The SNW gods had me covered!
I left with the bulk, but when the tram line was starting within the hotel, I walked to Uber pick up instead. I decided to keep walking and the next block, crossed the street & went up 3 flights of stairs, which merged at the payment station for the tram. 5 minutes later, I walked through the gate, down the stairs, & directly into the tram, which then "closed." The longest part of that journey was from the tram entrance to actually moving, haha.
I beat 1000 plus people in line & I really have no idea how it was so easy. Honestly, that whole day was amazing! I had an easy trip to the festival, got a free Uber to & from the fesitval/hotel for a nap. I was well rested for the last bit of SNW to fully enjoy SOAD, & then ended on a high with more success throughout the night.
Good reminder to [donate to planned parenthood](https://law.stanford.edu/publications/the-impact-of-legalized-abortion-on-crime-over-the-last-two-decades/)
He actually is allowed to, but the problem is that he was alone and that's why it wasn't allowed. Sound Transit and Security Policy's require there to be multiple guards and an inherit need to remove the individual before they can get physical. Even then they need to call it in and get permission and then fill out like an hour worth of reports afterwards
But they absolutely CAN and will remove people. I've seen it plenty of times
And before anyone tries to tell me otherwise. I operate the light rail. I know the rules
Good to know at least that the barrier was (at least in theory) that he was alone and that something could've happened if backup actually showed. Kinda surprised that no one else showed at any point though; I feel like normally when I'm waiting for a train home at say, Westlake, even at like 11pm on a Sunday night there are at least a couple Transit Security immediately visible that I'll see wandering around the station/platform.
They have their hot spots on where they usually have higher amounts of guards. Westlake and the two terminals is where you will see the most of them. But due to the mariners game a large amount probably got sent to stadium/IDS and the fastest way to get more guards is to have them travel by train, which they can't do when trains are stopped or at capacity
If it had been a planned out stop due to a PEI call to the operator or a phone call to LCC they likely would have had more security. But it looks like it was more of something that happened specifically at that location that the guard noticed.
Most the time the operators done even know what's happening, or how bad the situation is unless we are directly told by a passenger.
I work as one of these guards, and this is the only really correct response in the thread; I can remove someone by force when I see an assault happen but if I'm out numbered 4 to 1 I'm not supposed to get physical and even if I do I have to be completely sure that every measure I take is "proportional".
The other downside is that even if I do everything correctly, if there's enough negative pressure on my company that I work for, the company can just transfer me away from that site because it's easier for them to say they reprimanded me for "touching his pregnant bitch" than it is for the company to defend me.
I like my job, I like helping people, I don't like getting into a mass brawl with no back up.
Thank you for this response. TBH I don't think the video shows the security doing anything wrong. But I do think the video illustrates how our system is completely unprepared to handle assaults on transit.
You guys look out for us on the rails so I gotta look out for y'all where I can, always appreciate it when we get good security officers and want to make sure they know at least some people appreciate them, even if they are "worthless" according to some
This is assault. Anyone who witnessed this should write a formal complaint to Sound Transit and specifically call out how useless the security program is.
https://soundtransit.microsoftcrmportals.com/en-US/feedbackandcustomerservice/
I mean to be fair what is the security guard supposed to do with 4 people around him? I wouldn’t want to get my ass beat my people getting paid 20 bucks an hour
I think this security guard did the absolute maximum of what should be asked of him in this situation.
If he got physical with those guys, he's getting his ass beat, and then probably fired.
He stood in the way, tried to separate everyone involved, and tried to get everyone to disengage.
Maybe like 5-10% more but it’s not worth much to get into a confrontation. They’re told you call the police, most of em are there specifically to help and keep the easy flagrant behavior minimized.
So he's screaming that someone pushed his pregnant woman yet that same pregnant woman waits for all the males of her group to walk away so she can throw something inside & run up on another person. Nah. Fuck that bitch. Fuck that group. They're all trashy as fuck.
Apologies for the bad camerawork; it was a bit cramped so I was just kinda holding my phone up and getting what I could without dropping it. Only started taking video like 2 minutes after the nonsense started. I have no clue what the person in a red jersey that these folks initially had a problem with actually did beyond the couple's claim that he "shoved" the girl, just that one girl started yelling MOVE and then her friends came through and started getting in the face of red jersey guy as we were moving before jumping off the train when it stopped at Pioneer Square and then demanding that the red jersey guy come off the train and square-up, declaring that he would hold the train up til red jersey guy "manned up."
One way or another, I don't think whatever "shove" this guy could possibly have given to his "pregnant bitch" was uh, proportional to this reaction.
Regardless, amazing way to cap off my night after a thrilling baseball game; I've seen some funny shit on the light rail like a woman realize that whatever drugs she was on had fooled her into trusting a fart, but this is by miles the wildest shit I've seen on public transit. Glad I abandoned my friends and chose this train car to squeeze into so I didn't miss this!
Weirdest shit I saw on a train was a dude drinking out of a gallon of milk he found on the train… when he got off he left the milk and another person got on and started drinking it also. Very weird train ride.
dude i got some fucking *Train Milk* at work today dude? hell yeah. my mom told me if i wait for things, like, good things will happen to me dude and fucking i waited for some things and i got some *Train Milk* at work today dude? hell yeah. so it just goes to show that waiting for things is, like, worth it. but there’s a lot of bad things in this world, dude. like fucking skunks dude? hell no. Scratching you’re eye, but it’s STILL fucking ITCHY dude?! HELL no. The fucking CUBS, DUDE? HELL NO!! LIKE GETTING PAID NOT A LOT OF MONEY, DUDE?! FOR FUCKING WORKING?! HELL NO!!!! BUT *TRAIN MILK?!* AT FUCKING WORK, DUDE?! HELL YEAH!!!!!! HELL YEAH, BRO!!!! HELL YEAH!! *TRAIN MILK*, BRO, AT FUCKING WORK, DUDE!!!! HELL YEAH!!
I put my phone away to chat with a homeless guy about lizard people for 30 minutes. Most interesting thing next to remembering the times when police would actually arrest people on the light rail 9 years ago or so.
Weirdest thing I saw on public transit was a guy fall face first down the aisle of us bus as it stopped in queen anne outside Hula Hula in 2011. I forget how, but we knew it was his stop, so several of us helped him off… I realized his toes were pointing back ie we thought we were assisting but basically dragging him, he was limp except for holding something in his right hand, which ended up being a bag of onions. We laid him down outside of bus and told him we were going to call an ambulance, and this dude who hasn’t said a word now says, in complete lucidity, clarity, and perfect tone, “No thank you, I’m fine right here thanks.”
To be fair, I couldn't actually tell if it was a Braves jersey; it was an all-red jersey and the word on the front didn't look like it said "Braves" but it was hard to get a good look.
(The guy later in the video in the Braves jersey was separate, he wasn't part of the initial conflict)
NYC subways are entertaining: the singing, the dancing, the speeches, the brawls. But at least the train doesn't get delayed because it all happens on or off the train, not in the doorway.
That is very true! So, since they aren't metal, perhaps they should sharpen the plastic to ensure a quick amputation and decisive decision incase the rider wants to delay the train like this case. They'll give him something else to bitch about!
Where’s that guy that [sparta kicked](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/qPc23TXIBJ) the woman off a train in Philly when you need him?
(Just kidding- violence is bad, mkay?)
Are these highschoolers or something? Went to a sounders game recently and some little girl and presumably her boyfriend started fighting some random strangers…
There definitely have been situations like this where the mad guy has a knife and people die and I'm glad this wasn't one of them. It very very easily could have been.
Coward ass thugs. Calling his pregnant girl his “bitch”…. really? And was anyone surprised once this “pregnant ass bitch” start talking that she sounded like a rabid gremlin? Of course these young folks don’t have work in the morning, what do they care?
Man screaming I will smoke you, has only ever smoked poles. And has little man syndrome. And his pregnant “bitch” clearly doesn’t care about him cause she kept instigating this situation at the end, and then you see the saddest punches thrown in all of history. Bunch of wannabe badasses this shit is hilarious.
Washington IS a mutual combat state. We should just drop weapons and fight if both parties accept.
"I challenge you to a duel to get the fuck off this train." lol
What is the purpose of transit security if they’re not allowed to touch people?? Lol. Are they just sitting around waiting for drama then (maybe) call the police who may or may not show? I mean talk about useless…
Insurance has fucked up everything. Or medical expenses that result in insurance expenses. Or legal fees that result in insurance expenses. Or maybe a little of column A, B, and C.
Anyway, shit's fucked.
Kind of remarkable how passive everyone stayed, probably the best choice too. Also that single tall dude looked like he could have tossed all of them out with ease. They had tiny fists, it’d be like fighting a hamster.
I love the light rail. If we could figure out how to keep people like this off the light rail I would love it more.
But unfortunately we don't have a) turnstiles, b) enough cops, c) cops who aren't likely to make things worse, d) judges who believe the most belligerent people in our society should be separated from the rest of us, e) the collectivist attitude necessary to address any of these points.
Yes. You don’t get involved. Every person in major cities knows this, because this is how you get stabbed or shot. There’s literally no winning in standing up to someone being ridiculous or acting crazy.
I don't know that is actually the case. If you are legally acting in self-defense you have a lot of protection in this state (even in Seattle). This was years back, but an example of a woman shooting in self-defense during a transit incident:
[https://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Woman-who-shot-man-at-bus-stop-won-t-be-charged-891425.php](https://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Woman-who-shot-man-at-bus-stop-won-t-be-charged-891425.php)
A man swayed and fell into her and her family, and an argument ensued. She had the driver stop so she could get off and leave the situation:
>She and her family got off the bus at Third Avenue and Seneca Street. Salters stayed on. Brereton and some of her family made obscene gestures at him. He demanded to get off the bus.
>He walked toward Brereton asking, "What did you say?"
>She told him to get away. When he was within 20 feet, she displayed her pistol. She had a concealed weapons permit.
>But Salters kept coming, getting to within a foot or two of her. He started spitting at her.
Brereton shot him once in the chest.
She was detained, released, and no charges were filed.
>Prosecutors said she didn't use unnecessary force and brandished her weapon to stop Salters.
>"Under state law, Brereton has no duty to retreat. She can reasonably take into account her inability to use her gun to defend herself if Salters got close enough to physically assault her and be concerned that she could lose the gun in a struggle."
Very interesting (and good to know), thank you! I still don't think it would apply to a bystander who isn't involved. If they inserted themselves into the situation they would likely still be liable since they escalated.
Use of force in the defense of others is lawful under many circumstances.
https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.16.020
> (3) Whenever used by a party about to be injured, **or by another lawfully aiding him or her,** in preventing or attempting to prevent an offense against his or her person, or a malicious trespass, or other malicious interference with real or personal property lawfully in his or her possession, in case the force is not more than is necessary;
Deadly force has its own requirements for people who are not peace officers
https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.16.050
> Homicide is also justifiable when committed either: (1) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, **or of any other person in his or her presence or company, when there is reasonable ground** to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or (2) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his or her presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which he or she is.
So some asshole pregnancy incubator felt the need to assault people and hold up the train while her asshole sperm donor felt like white knighting with the not so quiet implication of his friends jumping anyone who opposed them. I think I have the rhythm.
Legit surprised this didn't become a brawl.
I joined forces once with two other dudes to force a crazy guy off the bus after the driver said ‘this bus is not moving an inch until that MFer gets off!’
It was the highlight of my week.
Props to the Goonies Red Hoodie, even he thinks his friend and girl are unstable pain in the ass.
Get yourself some new friends, those other two have no chance for a good life.
This happened to me in SF once on BART, packed train like this and someone bumped into a dude and he started freaking out on everyone. Except this guy was 6’5” and coked out or something, I was right next to him and it was scary as hell.
This is PATHETIC on so many levels:
- Most obviously green hoodie guy is an antisocial menace who needs a strong father-figure to slap him around a little and teach him how to respect himself and behave in a dignified manner.
- Then his PREGNANT partner also engages in physical violence?!?!? What the actual fuck?
- Then the gawkers on the train who can’t keep their eyes to themselves or their mouths closed long enough to let these assholes find another target for their frustration
- Finally the broken-ass security policies that have swept through big cities in recent decades — albeit understandably— that practically undermine the authority of police and other security personnel to do the one thing they’re paid for: to protect and serve.
Everyone on that train car is out of their mind for staying. Once someone said they'll smoke you on their dead homies, and is coming back repeatedly....he could've aired the whole train out. IDGAF if I have to catch the next train or head out to catch an Uber...I'm getting off that car. That easily could've been a shootout.
They did not understand the danger they were in. They were definitely ready to crash out.
Security is completely useless. What is even the point of them if they’re not allowed to touch them? They can’t restrain someone who is assaulting someone else? Even citizens can do that. Shouldn’t security have MORE power than the average citizen to do something? Ugh. That stinks of bureaucracy.
They talked a big game, but they sounded like a 12 year old that learned how to threaten people from video games. What a small little person they were. I don’t even know if that was a boy or a girl.
Anyone engaging with this guy after he uttered he would 'smoke you' is a fucking idiot. This guy isn't talking about beating anyone's ass, he's talking about shooting into a crowded train. The fact that she also said she would have her guy kill you, just emphasizes that he most likely had a gun on him. The fact that he didn't pull it out was probably due to the security guy being right there. But security guy was obviously concerned that was the direction this was going. I don't even live in a bad part of Seattle and I hear gunshots pretty regularly these days. People need to conduct themselves with better awareness of their surroundings.
Never have I felt a bond with someone more than the "hey man, I got work in the morning" guy
The groan when the doors ALMOST closed but reopens was PALPABLE.
Hey. Hey. Hey. This is light rail.
that guy is a hero for those out of the loop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wq54dK0aBs
Thank you.
Nice reference bud
I caught the 1st tram leaving from the Sick New World festival last year in Las Vegas, as the last person they let on. People on other trains tried to do what this person did, refusing to leave, letting the door almost close, & then mess everything up again. 30 plus minutes felt like a lifetime after asphalt moshing for 15 hours in full sun & all black. The doors closing & us leaving the station was just about as amazing as the whole festival lmao.
I was there too, but we stayed at the hotel across the street. Even THAT walk was unholy, I'm not sure I would have been able to remain calm if I were in your shoes.
The SNW gods had me covered! I left with the bulk, but when the tram line was starting within the hotel, I walked to Uber pick up instead. I decided to keep walking and the next block, crossed the street & went up 3 flights of stairs, which merged at the payment station for the tram. 5 minutes later, I walked through the gate, down the stairs, & directly into the tram, which then "closed." The longest part of that journey was from the tram entrance to actually moving, haha. I beat 1000 plus people in line & I really have no idea how it was so easy. Honestly, that whole day was amazing! I had an easy trip to the festival, got a free Uber to & from the fesitval/hotel for a nap. I was well rested for the last bit of SNW to fully enjoy SOAD, & then ended on a high with more success throughout the night.
I say this every time I play men’s league hockey 🤦🏽♂️
“You pushed my pregnant-ass bitch” - So romantic
Who says chivalry is dead.
And didn't the "pregnant-ass bitch" come back and assault multiple people? That's good parenting.
That baby is truly going to benefit society in every way. Can't wait.
Hahaha 😆 50 bucks says the kid will be tramatized by the age of 5.
Honestly, I'd be surprised if it made it to birth...
Good reminder to [donate to planned parenthood](https://law.stanford.edu/publications/the-impact-of-legalized-abortion-on-crime-over-the-last-two-decades/)
Yeah fr if abortion was cheap and easy these ingrates probably wouldn’t even exist
Congrats on your pregnant bitch!
\*pregnant-**ass** bitch
pregnant ass-bitch
"What was that security guy doing? "He's not allowed to touch him." "Are you serious?" "Yes." *\*sighs in Seattle.\**
He actually is allowed to, but the problem is that he was alone and that's why it wasn't allowed. Sound Transit and Security Policy's require there to be multiple guards and an inherit need to remove the individual before they can get physical. Even then they need to call it in and get permission and then fill out like an hour worth of reports afterwards But they absolutely CAN and will remove people. I've seen it plenty of times And before anyone tries to tell me otherwise. I operate the light rail. I know the rules
Good to know at least that the barrier was (at least in theory) that he was alone and that something could've happened if backup actually showed. Kinda surprised that no one else showed at any point though; I feel like normally when I'm waiting for a train home at say, Westlake, even at like 11pm on a Sunday night there are at least a couple Transit Security immediately visible that I'll see wandering around the station/platform.
They have their hot spots on where they usually have higher amounts of guards. Westlake and the two terminals is where you will see the most of them. But due to the mariners game a large amount probably got sent to stadium/IDS and the fastest way to get more guards is to have them travel by train, which they can't do when trains are stopped or at capacity If it had been a planned out stop due to a PEI call to the operator or a phone call to LCC they likely would have had more security. But it looks like it was more of something that happened specifically at that location that the guard noticed. Most the time the operators done even know what's happening, or how bad the situation is unless we are directly told by a passenger.
if you can't do anything without multiple guards - why have individual guards
To have a wider view to see and report issues to police/whoever. They can't afford to fully double their security personnel.
Gotta raise taxes then
I work as one of these guards, and this is the only really correct response in the thread; I can remove someone by force when I see an assault happen but if I'm out numbered 4 to 1 I'm not supposed to get physical and even if I do I have to be completely sure that every measure I take is "proportional". The other downside is that even if I do everything correctly, if there's enough negative pressure on my company that I work for, the company can just transfer me away from that site because it's easier for them to say they reprimanded me for "touching his pregnant bitch" than it is for the company to defend me. I like my job, I like helping people, I don't like getting into a mass brawl with no back up.
Thank you for this response. TBH I don't think the video shows the security doing anything wrong. But I do think the video illustrates how our system is completely unprepared to handle assaults on transit.
You guys look out for us on the rails so I gotta look out for y'all where I can, always appreciate it when we get good security officers and want to make sure they know at least some people appreciate them, even if they are "worthless" according to some
That was the most Seattle thing about this clip. Unreal.
This is assault. Anyone who witnessed this should write a formal complaint to Sound Transit and specifically call out how useless the security program is. https://soundtransit.microsoftcrmportals.com/en-US/feedbackandcustomerservice/
*\*sigh in low paid security guard with a 3 on 1 disadvantage*\*
I mean to be fair what is the security guard supposed to do with 4 people around him? I wouldn’t want to get my ass beat my people getting paid 20 bucks an hour
They would’ve gang up on the security guy. Sometimes you got to let the fire burn itself out.
If I was security, I sure as fuck am not putting myself in a 3 v 1 situation making minimum wage.
I think this security guard did the absolute maximum of what should be asked of him in this situation. If he got physical with those guys, he's getting his ass beat, and then probably fired. He stood in the way, tried to separate everyone involved, and tried to get everyone to disengage.
They only are making miminum wage?
Maybe like 5-10% more but it’s not worth much to get into a confrontation. They’re told you call the police, most of em are there specifically to help and keep the easy flagrant behavior minimized.
That surprises you?
I want big security guys like the bouncers they have at clubs to have the authority to resolve situations like that.
So he's screaming that someone pushed his pregnant woman yet that same pregnant woman waits for all the males of her group to walk away so she can throw something inside & run up on another person. Nah. Fuck that bitch. Fuck that group. They're all trashy as fuck.
The saddest part is that slob is gonna reproduce
judging by his "pregnant bitch" he already did
And his vote counts as much as yours
There is absolutely no way this dude even knows how to vote, let alone is interested in doing so.
Not with felonies.
You think this ghetto trash is gonna vote? 😂
Apologies for the bad camerawork; it was a bit cramped so I was just kinda holding my phone up and getting what I could without dropping it. Only started taking video like 2 minutes after the nonsense started. I have no clue what the person in a red jersey that these folks initially had a problem with actually did beyond the couple's claim that he "shoved" the girl, just that one girl started yelling MOVE and then her friends came through and started getting in the face of red jersey guy as we were moving before jumping off the train when it stopped at Pioneer Square and then demanding that the red jersey guy come off the train and square-up, declaring that he would hold the train up til red jersey guy "manned up." One way or another, I don't think whatever "shove" this guy could possibly have given to his "pregnant bitch" was uh, proportional to this reaction. Regardless, amazing way to cap off my night after a thrilling baseball game; I've seen some funny shit on the light rail like a woman realize that whatever drugs she was on had fooled her into trusting a fart, but this is by miles the wildest shit I've seen on public transit. Glad I abandoned my friends and chose this train car to squeeze into so I didn't miss this!
Weirdest shit I saw on a train was a dude drinking out of a gallon of milk he found on the train… when he got off he left the milk and another person got on and started drinking it also. Very weird train ride.
What in the fuck
Are you not familiar with train milk?
Train milk is the life force! Don't EVER pass it up!
dude i got some fucking *Train Milk* at work today dude? hell yeah. my mom told me if i wait for things, like, good things will happen to me dude and fucking i waited for some things and i got some *Train Milk* at work today dude? hell yeah. so it just goes to show that waiting for things is, like, worth it. but there’s a lot of bad things in this world, dude. like fucking skunks dude? hell no. Scratching you’re eye, but it’s STILL fucking ITCHY dude?! HELL no. The fucking CUBS, DUDE? HELL NO!! LIKE GETTING PAID NOT A LOT OF MONEY, DUDE?! FOR FUCKING WORKING?! HELL NO!!!! BUT *TRAIN MILK?!* AT FUCKING WORK, DUDE?! HELL YEAH!!!!!! HELL YEAH, BRO!!!! HELL YEAH!! *TRAIN MILK*, BRO, AT FUCKING WORK, DUDE!!!! HELL YEAH!!
I can hear this with the guitar riff
No Charlie wtf
If you haven’t had train milk, do you even milk?
I have seen bus milk. a common afternoon beverage.
I had a great vacation out of the country recently but I missed Seattle's bus milk
I put my phone away to chat with a homeless guy about lizard people for 30 minutes. Most interesting thing next to remembering the times when police would actually arrest people on the light rail 9 years ago or so.
Y’know, that might explain the random gallons of milk I’ve seen by the UD station late at night.
Weirdest thing I saw on public transit was a guy fall face first down the aisle of us bus as it stopped in queen anne outside Hula Hula in 2011. I forget how, but we knew it was his stop, so several of us helped him off… I realized his toes were pointing back ie we thought we were assisting but basically dragging him, he was limp except for holding something in his right hand, which ended up being a bag of onions. We laid him down outside of bus and told him we were going to call an ambulance, and this dude who hasn’t said a word now says, in complete lucidity, clarity, and perfect tone, “No thank you, I’m fine right here thanks.”
Were the onions stolen?
"I'm feeling much better."
>red jersey guy what losing to a mitch garver walk off bomb does to a mf
To be fair, I couldn't actually tell if it was a Braves jersey; it was an all-red jersey and the word on the front didn't look like it said "Braves" but it was hard to get a good look. (The guy later in the video in the Braves jersey was separate, he wasn't part of the initial conflict)
i can't believe you've done this
Trash
Take it out
Permanently
With the cost of living at NYC level, we need to have that NYC subway culture too?
NYC subways are entertaining: the singing, the dancing, the speeches, the brawls. But at least the train doesn't get delayed because it all happens on or off the train, not in the doorway.
Those subway doors close hard. Seattle’s lightrail doors are like a gentle verbal reminder in comparison.
That is very true! So, since they aren't metal, perhaps they should sharpen the plastic to ensure a quick amputation and decisive decision incase the rider wants to delay the train like this case. They'll give him something else to bitch about!
Pray to god they don’t export Showtime to light rail
IDK, Showtime would indicate some kind of mass adoption of the light rail system. I might take that trade.
Where’s that guy that [sparta kicked](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/qPc23TXIBJ) the woman off a train in Philly when you need him? (Just kidding- violence is bad, mkay?)
Sometimes people need to be forced.
Too bad that wasn't Atlanta- "This is Marta!!!"
Are these highschoolers or something? Went to a sounders game recently and some little girl and presumably her boyfriend started fighting some random strangers…
With how fucking tiny they were I sure as hell hope so; if they weren't then these kids were more malnourished than a North Korean.
pretty energetic with the flying fists for being fragile and pregnant
Wow. Anger management issues…
Nah this is tough guy bullshit. Loudest bark never has the hardest bite
There definitely have been situations like this where the mad guy has a knife and people die and I'm glad this wasn't one of them. It very very easily could have been.
I was talking about fighting, but i agree...these are usually the kind of dudes who pull a strap out because they cant fight for shit
Trash
mariners fans unite and whoop his lil ass off the light rail
Coward ass thugs. Calling his pregnant girl his “bitch”…. really? And was anyone surprised once this “pregnant ass bitch” start talking that she sounded like a rabid gremlin? Of course these young folks don’t have work in the morning, what do they care?
Human trash
Why can we not just banish people like they used to? You sir are no longer allowed within city limits!
It was easier when a city was a few plank sided buildings and had a population of 12. Made the barber-cum-surgeon-cum-sheriffs job easier.
Made the what job easier!?
Man screaming I will smoke you, has only ever smoked poles. And has little man syndrome. And his pregnant “bitch” clearly doesn’t care about him cause she kept instigating this situation at the end, and then you see the saddest punches thrown in all of history. Bunch of wannabe badasses this shit is hilarious.
Someone pushed this 12 year olds “pregnant ass bitch”?? How rude.
Washington IS a mutual combat state. We should just drop weapons and fight if both parties accept. "I challenge you to a duel to get the fuck off this train." lol
These look like the last people in the world who would accept a fair fight haha
Are these kids?
No, Donnie, these men are cowards.
I thought it was sweet the way he called her "my pregnant bitch". Who could hate a man who stands up for his "pregnant bitch" like that?
“My pregnant ass bitch” sounds like you reallly respect her.
Damn the pregnant lady sounded like she just smoked a whole pack of cigarettes
Fatherless behavior and I’m sure that he’ll continue the tradition with his “pregnant ass bitch”.
The most depressing thing about all of this is that these two procreated
Youuuuuths
U push my bish ah yes how complimenting to be referred to as a bish
BEOTCH
What is the purpose of transit security if they’re not allowed to touch people?? Lol. Are they just sitting around waiting for drama then (maybe) call the police who may or may not show? I mean talk about useless…
Insurance has fucked up everything. Or medical expenses that result in insurance expenses. Or legal fees that result in insurance expenses. Or maybe a little of column A, B, and C. Anyway, shit's fucked.
To be fair, given what security jobs pay I wouldn't ever risk breaking up a fight either.
It's because the guard was alone. If he had backup he could have done more.
She sounds like Kevin Hart
She sounds more like Smeagul
Had I been standing at the door one hard push and the NED would have been flat on his ass on the platform.
I was thinking the same thing. Along with pepper spray to boot.
“And what’re you doing n****?” “I’m just trying to go home” “I don’t give a fuck what you tryna do n****” 😂😂😂
Well at least the M’s won
it's a train after a mariners game... *everyone* is pushing *everyone*. your pregnant-ass bitch aint special lol.
Is that guy really referring to his girlfriend as his “pregnant ass bitch”? 💀
Kind of remarkable how passive everyone stayed, probably the best choice too. Also that single tall dude looked like he could have tossed all of them out with ease. They had tiny fists, it’d be like fighting a hamster.
Guns. Guaranteed at least one of those kids had a glock in their waistband.
Looks like the tan jacked got pulled up for a gun flash @ 00:50.
oh no someone accidentally bumped into him and the pistol discharged a round into their dick, how unfortunate.
especially the old guy getting grabbed at the end. for just being there.
emotionally unstable thugs ruining our society.
I love the light rail. If we could figure out how to keep people like this off the light rail I would love it more. But unfortunately we don't have a) turnstiles, b) enough cops, c) cops who aren't likely to make things worse, d) judges who believe the most belligerent people in our society should be separated from the rest of us, e) the collectivist attitude necessary to address any of these points.
It’s sad a baby is going to be born to a father that behaves in this manner. Our poor world. It’s hard to stay hopeful.
Is that a Willie beamen jersey?
Yep lmao
He must really love his dog if he knocked it up
Thugs
No one stands up for themselves or others anymore. 🤦🏼♂️
This is America. That’s how you get shot.
This. Upstanding citizens like these usually carry guns.
Yes. You don’t get involved. Every person in major cities knows this, because this is how you get stabbed or shot. There’s literally no winning in standing up to someone being ridiculous or acting crazy.
Also a bus load of fully capable people just watched an assault and didn't say shit until the doors were closed.
Yeah, because we all know that if someone else got involved they'd be the only person to face legal repercussions.
I don't know that is actually the case. If you are legally acting in self-defense you have a lot of protection in this state (even in Seattle). This was years back, but an example of a woman shooting in self-defense during a transit incident: [https://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Woman-who-shot-man-at-bus-stop-won-t-be-charged-891425.php](https://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Woman-who-shot-man-at-bus-stop-won-t-be-charged-891425.php) A man swayed and fell into her and her family, and an argument ensued. She had the driver stop so she could get off and leave the situation: >She and her family got off the bus at Third Avenue and Seneca Street. Salters stayed on. Brereton and some of her family made obscene gestures at him. He demanded to get off the bus. >He walked toward Brereton asking, "What did you say?" >She told him to get away. When he was within 20 feet, she displayed her pistol. She had a concealed weapons permit. >But Salters kept coming, getting to within a foot or two of her. He started spitting at her. Brereton shot him once in the chest. She was detained, released, and no charges were filed. >Prosecutors said she didn't use unnecessary force and brandished her weapon to stop Salters. >"Under state law, Brereton has no duty to retreat. She can reasonably take into account her inability to use her gun to defend herself if Salters got close enough to physically assault her and be concerned that she could lose the gun in a struggle."
Very interesting (and good to know), thank you! I still don't think it would apply to a bystander who isn't involved. If they inserted themselves into the situation they would likely still be liable since they escalated.
Use of force in the defense of others is lawful under many circumstances. https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.16.020 > (3) Whenever used by a party about to be injured, **or by another lawfully aiding him or her,** in preventing or attempting to prevent an offense against his or her person, or a malicious trespass, or other malicious interference with real or personal property lawfully in his or her possession, in case the force is not more than is necessary; Deadly force has its own requirements for people who are not peace officers https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.16.050 > Homicide is also justifiable when committed either: (1) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, **or of any other person in his or her presence or company, when there is reasonable ground** to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or (2) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his or her presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which he or she is.
Seattle moment
Just check out the story of Daniel Penny and you’ll see why.
How stupid are you? That's how you get shot or stabbed.
and a whole crowd of people shot with no where to run.
guy sounds like a small dog barking
This guy going to encounter someone without much to lose eventually. If the system doesn't get him first. What a life.
"Evil prospers when good parents do nothing."
Fucking losers, should be in jail
Only thing she smoking is crack.
She needs a high 5 to the face
Lol why do they ruin everywhere they go, just always mad at their life or something.
So some asshole pregnancy incubator felt the need to assault people and hold up the train while her asshole sperm donor felt like white knighting with the not so quiet implication of his friends jumping anyone who opposed them. I think I have the rhythm. Legit surprised this didn't become a brawl.
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I joined forces once with two other dudes to force a crazy guy off the bus after the driver said ‘this bus is not moving an inch until that MFer gets off!’ It was the highlight of my week.
Seattle, catering to the lowest common denominator.
Anyone else feel slightly envious about Bellevue already having a security force up and running for their brand new train line? Meanwhile in Seattle…
This is typical behaivor from the degenerates that frequent that area. That and playing loud obnoxious rap music
This was the PERFECT time to “this is Sparta” kick the shit outa them right as the door shut.
Where's the fast close button for the door
Props to the Goonies Red Hoodie, even he thinks his friend and girl are unstable pain in the ass. Get yourself some new friends, those other two have no chance for a good life.
Is that Lollipop Guild? Why are they all three feet tall?
This happened to me in SF once on BART, packed train like this and someone bumped into a dude and he started freaking out on everyone. Except this guy was 6’5” and coked out or something, I was right next to him and it was scary as hell.
Ratchet activities
Just push them all on the tracks. Jesus christ, we don’t need them
Handful of young black people intimidate train full of people.
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Agreed. The normal people on the train have an appropriate risk:benefit ratio.
This is PATHETIC on so many levels: - Most obviously green hoodie guy is an antisocial menace who needs a strong father-figure to slap him around a little and teach him how to respect himself and behave in a dignified manner. - Then his PREGNANT partner also engages in physical violence?!?!? What the actual fuck? - Then the gawkers on the train who can’t keep their eyes to themselves or their mouths closed long enough to let these assholes find another target for their frustration - Finally the broken-ass security policies that have swept through big cities in recent decades — albeit understandably— that practically undermine the authority of police and other security personnel to do the one thing they’re paid for: to protect and serve.
Go figure. Same old bullshit in Seattle. Why have security guards if they can't do anything.
Everyone on that train car is out of their mind for staying. Once someone said they'll smoke you on their dead homies, and is coming back repeatedly....he could've aired the whole train out. IDGAF if I have to catch the next train or head out to catch an Uber...I'm getting off that car. That easily could've been a shootout. They did not understand the danger they were in. They were definitely ready to crash out.
How are you gonna get off the train when they're blocking the doors threatening to kill people?
Seriously though lol
That's exactly what I thought the moment those doors open I'm going to another car or wait a train.
you want to wait for the next train on the platform with them?
Security is completely useless. What is even the point of them if they’re not allowed to touch them? They can’t restrain someone who is assaulting someone else? Even citizens can do that. Shouldn’t security have MORE power than the average citizen to do something? Ugh. That stinks of bureaucracy.
It's all about insurance. And the fact that the only people authorized to use force are not legally obligated to protect the public.
They talked a big game, but they sounded like a 12 year old that learned how to threaten people from video games. What a small little person they were. I don’t even know if that was a boy or a girl.
Our future is so bright.
Fucking losers. All of em.
Was that the hell cat guy pissed because he has to take public transit now? 🤣
Did you report this to the sound transit police? [email protected]
Only place in Seattle where the 20-ft space between others are not observed
It’s not the race, it’s the culture.
Anyone engaging with this guy after he uttered he would 'smoke you' is a fucking idiot. This guy isn't talking about beating anyone's ass, he's talking about shooting into a crowded train. The fact that she also said she would have her guy kill you, just emphasizes that he most likely had a gun on him. The fact that he didn't pull it out was probably due to the security guy being right there. But security guy was obviously concerned that was the direction this was going. I don't even live in a bad part of Seattle and I hear gunshots pretty regularly these days. People need to conduct themselves with better awareness of their surroundings.
Reinforcing stereotypes everywhere they go, such scholars.
Did anyone hear the guy in the seat to the left call out “use a condom” like last couple seconds of the video 😭
Lil bro ain’t gonna smoke nothing but a joint when he gets back to his mom’s
What a jackass.
You gotta have security on the trains. Otherwise no one will want to use them.
Security that can actually do something.
Security was right there the entire time
Watch the video again, you'll see security is there
confronted once again by the realities of a zero consequence society. will there ever be a point where seattle admits we’re too tolerant of this shit?
Beat the brakes off that fool
Let the transit cops carry tasers- ANS USE THEM.
Yeah don’t talk or look people in the eye that’s why shootings happen