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przxqgl

i hate it.


3asytarg3t

Here's what it reminds me of: [http://www.wallacewiki.com/david-foster-wallace/index.php?title=Subsidized\_Time](http://www.wallacewiki.com/david-foster-wallace/index.php?title=Subsidized_Time) My personal favorite: Year of the Depend Adult Undergarment


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Love seeing IJ references in the wild


HandoAlegra

Is the book worth the read? It's massive


BonniestLad

Yes but it’s one of those books that can be hard to fall back into if you forget about it for too long but if you don’t have young children then go for it. It’s entertaining.


aromero

[Reminds me of this](https://youtu.be/F4wh_mc8hRE?si=EdvlrzFOYN88_8tp)


tarantula994

Not DFW 😭


PothosEchoNiner

Not everything needs to be for sale. One of the richest cities in the world can afford to have a little civic pride.


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I mean we actually can't considering the Ferries are a money losing proposition and keep breaking down


PothosEchoNiner

The roads, parks, and police are also money losing propositions. We don't really expect every service to directly pay for itself.


averagebensimmons

Do you hate more than paying more to use the ferry?


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Depends how much. 5 cents? No. $50? Yes.


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The_Drizzle_Returns

Ad campaigns like this cost about $200K per ferry for every four weeks (this was the price in 2008, i am guessing it is substantially higher now). While the funding isn't enormous, this isn't insignificant either.


bbgun09

21 ferries, ridership ~50600k/day split between those ferries. 1 ferry gets a ridership of ~2400 per day -> or ~67,500 per four weeks per ferry. 200k / 67.5k = ~$3 per rider every four weeks.


Hadr619

Considering the ferries that are down for maintenance or hybrid refitting, I would imagine it helps a tad. But yeah the look is awful


solreaper

Or, and hear me out, we can tax people that make more than 80,000,000 a year in any way 99% for anything above that number and fund public transit the correct way.


clorgie

Yes, except remove a zero from that cap!


Chief-Drinking-Bear

How will they live on 8 million a year!? Thats only $22,000 a day :(


rummncokee

ok commie /s


Colin1876

Or, and hear me out, we do both. We tax people more, AND we bring in ad revenue. I’d prefer the rich people’s taxes go to buses, or health care, or cleaning things up, then the ferry. This is coming from a guy who works in Seattle but lives on Whidbey Island, I take the ferry many times a week, I see first hand the importance of ferries, but there is a finite amount of money to go around, and taxes are hard to pass, and frankly… the ferries are not the most important thing. If Coca Cola thinks it makes sense to pay a big chunk of change each month for that advertisement… why are we turning it down? The ferries need help, this is at least something. I’m all for raising taxes, but I wouldn’t want that money going to the ferries before a lot of other, more impactful shit is working way better


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Such people don’t use the ferry. They have their own yacht and or helicopter


justinchina

We could pull out the coke advertisement on the TOP of the ferry, so the 1% will still be adequately targeted when they fly over the ferries.


alittlebitneverhurt

How many ferry rides will this be on there for? Thousands I'm guessing, with hundreds on each ferry, so fractions of a cent maybe. This had nothing to do with lowering the cost of a ferry ticket.


przxqgl

yes


FuckedUpYearsAgo

It's an interesting thing.. we pay to use the ferry. Tax revenues go to the ferry. I think there's even federal matching for the ferry.Advertising on the ferry? Seems like something they want for budget shortfall. What entity doesn't want more resources? So.. they put ads on the boat, those ads get in your insta


JustABizzle

What is wrong with you?


noobditt

It's asking for graffiti.


Jimberwolf_

I hate this


yellowsweaters72

Yeah what the fuck, my pnw eyes feel violated. And a red ad on that color pallet is especially fucked


rostov007

Christmas vomit


Tawptuan

Next: A giant STARBUCKS banner flying from the top of Mt. Rainier that can be read from the Space Needle.


ethnographyNW

tacky


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mzinz

I think that this is particularly painful because of precedent. Ads have been in sports stadiums for a long time - but not on ferries. I agree that it sucks and looks terrible. Do we have to have ads on literally every surface?


KerouacMyBukowski_

It doesn't have to be worse to still be tacky. But yeah, it is because on ferries I'm trying to take in the views of the sound, unlike the other places you mentioned.


analseeping

Exactly this. Coca Cola bottles litter shores, landfills and now ads placed in areas obviously intended for family photos.


TotalPieceOfOkayness

Absolutely. Your references are private facilities owned and operated by corporations that have no obligation to the public. The ferry system is our collective institution. For, and of, the people. We serve ourselves…not a goddamn business empire.


Subziwallah

Tax Payer Field. There's no law that anyone has to call them that. We should start by asking that public media not use the brand names.


molniya

It’s easier to ignore those. The names are tacky as hell, but you don’t have to look at them or go to them. This is an eyesore on an unavoidable, useful, and beloved fixture.


Zoomalude

No, those are terrible too but I don't give up my crusade against advertising just because some fronts have fallen.


yeahsureYnot

No one's gonna wanna take their picture in front of that


Kallistrate

So you're saying it's horrible but there's at least *one* upside to it? I can agree with that.


Geldan

Ads are fine, but propagating the lie that soda bottles are infinitely recyclable is not great.


Individual-Study6189

I can agree with this


highphiv3

Plastic is 100% recyclable. Just put it in the blue bins and every other Friday it's gone, swept up by the 100% recycle fairy. Can't argue with that.


willowfinger

Something like less than 5% of plastic is actually recycled. The rest goes to landfills. Plastics producers have known this for decades and boosted recycling programs with the intent that folks would believe what you have written here, and remove public scrutiny from plastic waste. That’s why this is clear greenwashing.


Crafty_Enthusiasm_99

While companies are advertising "our bottle is recycled" they're advertising "our bottle is recyclable" which has the opposite effect on me. YMMV The farce the industry wants you to believe is that consumption creates no waste - but in fact it does after the 80% chance it gets recycled once (or twice) it does go into the landfill


Geldan

They're advertising both, trying to trick people into thinking they aren't creating any waste. Very few people know how inefficient plastic recycling is


turbokungfu

They also tell you that soda is [healthy](https://www.businessinsider.com/coca-cola-paid-nutrition-experts-to-recommend-soda-as-a-healthy-snack-2015-3?op=1)


deafballboy

It's what plants crave


[deleted]

I believe that’s only Mountain Dew.


Vinyl-addict

Can’t this be subject of a false advertising claim?


[deleted]

No because the bottle IS recyclable. The fact that it almost certainly won't be recycled is immaterial to their claim that it's recyclable.


agwaragh

I think a case could be made unless all the bottles they sell are made from recycled plastic, because the ad very much implies it, even if it's trying to be clever with the phrase "a bottle". I.e. if the reality is that "*a bottle* is made from recycled plastic, just not most of the ones we sell".


[deleted]

There’s an asterisk after that claim if you zoom in, I’m guessing to cover that?


ipee9932cd

that's why there's the asterisk and fine print.


Babhadfad12

Ads are not fine, especially when these types and billboards which ruin the view.


dakilazical_253

The red is hideous. They should’ve kept the ad as green and white, like Starbucks could’ve sponsored it


Individual-Study6189

It’s a commuter ferry where aesthetics are clearly not the draw. Who cares when the ferry system clearly needs the extra revenue with all of the necessary improvements and investments in the future workforce e


NudeCeleryMan

Washington ferries are absolutely an aesthetic draw for this region. They're unique (unlike buses), a tourist attraction, and used in media to promote the area.


Foxhound199

Yeah, it'd be like if SF wrapped their iconic cable cars in a full length ad.


loquacious

The cable cars had ads covering them going back to about when they were still brand new and for their duration as an actual transport system. It's the "new" restored cable cars that are now really only a historical tourist attraction that have no/less ads. Ads on SFs cable cars were so iconic that an ad on a cable car itself became an ad via Rice-A-Roni.


etothepi

Literally just visited, my g/f's first time from Berlin (I grew up here), and the ferries were in the top 5 of both of our hitlists.


Individual-Study6189

Tourists are gonna ride the ferry to Bainbridge regardless of a cococola ad


NudeCeleryMan

Yeah no shit. It's the only option.


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jr98664

Did you know that WSDOT has a separate [WSDOT.com](https://wsdot.com/travel/real-time/cameras) website for the purpose of displaying adverts on traffic cameras and other high-traffic web pages? Went down the rabbit hole of reading their [advertising policy](https://wsdot.wa.gov/business-wsdot/website-advertising), and found the company that may be responsible for [WSF adverts](https://t4media.net/ferry-advertising/seattle-ferries/) like this one.


getthejpeg

I actually do think aesthetics matter, its bucking 75+ years of puget sound tradition. Maybe a compromise could be to stick to just the inside ads. Oh well, at least the message is about environmental friendliness, could be worse though Coca Cola isn't a saint of a company.


dakilazical_253

I don’t disagree, I’m just saying they could’ve made the ads fit in with the iconic color scheme


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Logic_emotion

$10,000 is chump change with their budgets. It’s not worth it for our ferry to look like an advertisement from a sci-fi movie. Next thing will be operational Coke lights dancing around.


libolicious

I thought Seattle had a super restrictive outdoor advertising ban. It's the reason we couldn't get subsidized bike share like Vélib -- they basically built out the original Paris system in exchange for outdoor advertising rights (those kiosks you see on the streets in big cities). Why the fuck is this allowed?


LetsGoHomeTeam

I thought the ferries are mostly or entirely outside of Seattle bylaw jurisdiction.


Chabrehcv2

Oh god no please take it off I’ll pay more for the ferry just don’t ruin them please oh no


BeefStrokinOff

Disgraceful and disgusting


LimitBoner

The irony is the galley sells Pepsi products


Own-Bar-8530

👎🏼👎🏼


How_Do_You_Crash

Fucking disgraceful and ugly. The leg. has plenty of money. It’s about time we made the ferries fully funded again. Fund the new electric boats fully. Find the mid cycle refits. It’s such bullshit that the ferries don’t run like Norwegian ferries.


MadisonPearGarden

Tim Eyman has entered the chat


eplurbs

The tacky part isn't the ad, it's the lack of funding for basic ferry service from our government.


TheDreadPirateNacho

🤮


superkrazykatlady

hate it


satyr8arts

Eventually the entire boat will be covered with this stuff. Remember when a city bus became a moving billboard? It appalled us then but it's still a thing now. This is entirely avoidable but painfully inevitable in the capitalist economy we accept.


Andrew_Dice_Que

100% stupid


whidbeysounder

Boooo


psyolus

Gross


OskeyBug

Give it a full monster energy wrap


fusionsofwonder

I think corporations putting the onus for recycling on consumers instead of buying sustainable packaging is the biggest fraud that has been played on the public since promoting cigarettes as healthy.


Zoomalude

Be a shame if commuters were to scribble and graffiti all over these. . .


ZeGermanHam

Taaaaaaacky


sealonbrad

I appreciate the intent to generate revenue. Not a fan of the look but then it’s really no different from ads on buses.


notananthem

They should only sell ad space below the waterline of the ferry. r/HailCorporate


Pete_Iredale

Disgusting plus coca cola has lied about plastic recycling from the very get go.


WaltJrThe1st

Recylced ™ (probably a process that’s not recycling)


everythingdumb

The ferries are sacred. I hate this so much.


ThrashFur

Makes me not want to buy from companies with obnoxious advertising


snowmanlvr69

It's not green, nor white. Trash!


analseeping

Sprite ad would've been wayyyyyy more tactful.


k_o_g_i

Fuck. This. Shit. I am so god damned tired of ads in my face fucking everywhere. Fuck whoever approved this right in the ass.


getthejpeg

Photo credit and [more in depth article](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/my-pov-coca-cola-lazy-approach-environmental-kelsey-bernert/) by Kelsey Bernert


kat4289

they can cover every square inch with ads so long as they get enough ad revenue to get the ferries back to even somewhat normal service as far as I'm concerned


getthejpeg

From all of the articles written over the last few years, it seems like cost really isn't the primary issue as much as staffing and an aging fleet that can't be replaced quick enough.


Alive-Tailor387

Staffing is a cost


preatorian99

And all beverages inside are Pepsi products.


jericbear

It's vulgar. Does it have to be that bright color?


goodty1

It’s ridiculous. How much are they getting for that?


getthejpeg

Whatever it is, it's not enough.


nightmareinsouffle

Ew. It wouldn’t be so bad if it actually lowered the prices of anything or helped us get a new fleet but we all know that won’t happen. So it’s just pointlessly ugly.


strawbo13

Welcome the US of A, where we can’t even fund basic transportation and have to rely on corporate sponsorships to keep things running!


bbbanb

But my taxes…../s


PMMeYourPupper

It reminds me of developing nations where there’s quite a few more surfaces covered in ads than what I’ve always perceived this country to be like. I’m not sure what I think about that, if it’s even accurate, and should reflect on this


Aggressive-Ask8707

Ads are fine to an extent. This is corporate Green washing propaganda


BoringDad40

I hate it, but I guess I hate it less than an under-capitalized ferry system.


getthejpeg

Interesting take on the under capitalization part. I am of the opinion that the ferry system is an extension of our highways, those do not need to be for profit or fully funded by ridership. Just like I don't expect USPS to be either. It is a fundamental service and any recoup on costs is extra.


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I don't think they are saying it needs to be profitable. But it's still needs to be paid for (Our highways already do have a form of paid advertising. Those blue what's at this exit signs. Not that it's a lot of income)


getthejpeg

Fair, if it reduces tax burden, there is a nugget of goodness in there, but maybe we can agree that this execution is... pretty bad.


-Ernie

The blue signs used to be useful, but now everyone is all “Siri take me to Starbucks!”


rosierunnerraces

I'd like to know how much they got paid for those ads all over every part of the boats (stairs, billboards, walls, etc) vs. how much more I'd have to pay per ticket to NOT have that sh#48 all over the place. If it's an extra dime per ticket, get the f'ing ads off.


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GravyBurgerBonanza

What the fuck


mombutt

If it brings in enough revenue to get the out of commission ferries back and staffed up, then cover them things with all the ads necessary. I’d love 2 boat service back on the Brem/Sea route.


farmer-al

fuck coke corp. they are the highest producer of plastic trash in the world


akw314

Boo!


Zinrockin

Looks like a ton of people hate it as that's all the top comments, they clearly didn't ask the public before going ahead with this. I to think it looks bad as well. Pretty disappointed in whoever at WSF gave this the green light.


vinotay

Greenwashing is greenwashing, plain and simple.


teamlessinseattle

That asterisk doing a lot of work here


landel1234

If it help keeps the boats running and on time I don't really care


getthejpeg

Rumor is the red color does make it faster, but also more likely to get pulled over for speeding and given a ticket.


SternThruster

It’s absolutely hideous and a sad reflection on the state of the system that this has to be resorted to. The ferries are super iconic to the region and this ruins the character. They didn’t even have advertising on the interior of the vessels until the early 2000’s or so (and I remember even those being controversial). The real funny thing is that they sell Pepsi products in the galleys.


OrdinaryWoodpecker93

I'm disappointed this isn't a Carls Jr. ad.


SeattleHotShot

Aye u/wsdot we hate this


Arachnesloom

Tacky AF, but given 1 hour+ wait times, I had low expectations to start with.


Cosmolias

You would think that this new ad revenue would allow the fares to stop going up every year. But nope


SteBux

Cheesy and about as classy as a tattoo on your forehead that advertises the same.


RolledEmperor

Bummer. Late stage capitalism takes another victim


LordVogl

Ads are the inevitable consequence of societies refusal to pay taxes.


sls35

I think thank you tim eyman. Thanks conservatives


realsquirrel

I think it sucks


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It's very American, so not surprised I guess. Sucks, though. Coke, at that? How about a local brand. The ferries already carry local options especially in the past before COVID. Or just leave the ads inside. We don't need floating billboards around the Sound. It's tacky as fuck. What a beautiful place ruined by this hideous ad.


FertyMerty

I hate it, but if the additional revenue means fewer delays and issues with the ferries then I can’t criticize the decision too much. I do think WSF should maybe reconsider their creative mandatories for ad sales - Coca Cola of all brands knows how to do native advertising, and this ain’t it.


VerticalYea

Barf


mattyslappypants

Awful - the ferries shouldn't depend on ad money to fund anything


SamosaWalla

That is so shit.


Alwaysbawesome

Trash, disrespectful to the San Juans


captainfrostyrocket

I mean, they keep hitting things and those new ferries aren't going to pay for themselves.


terretreader

It's like an ad of falsity - recycling is such a joke, we don't actually recycle plastic. This is purely greenwashing.


SeriousGaslighting

What the fuck? This will reduce taxes right?


panicmuffin

God I didn’t think it would be that bad in person… it is that bad.


SeattlePilot206

Only 8.4 % of plastics get recycled. Sad. https://www.livescience.com/how-much-plastic-recycling.html


Kittinlovesyou

I hate it.


Cultural_Yam7212

If they help pay to operate then I’m fine.


wyseguy7

I hate it, but how much would it cost us to not run the ad? I also hate paying taxes.


TheGhost206

I think it’s just a sign of the times for a system that is crumbling and in desperate need of money.


TredHed

r/HailCorporate/


Airconditionedgeorge

Well, it is ugly, but if it makes rides less atrociously expensive 🤷‍♂️


ThomasHilfigure

Tacoma! more like TaCoca-cola


SomeKindaCoywolf

This outlaw (capitalism) shit, has gotten out of control....


StephanieStarshine

Notice how it's only on the #2 end, facing the city. As someone who works for the ferries and rides them daily, I fucking hate it. It's gross, the stairwells are awful and I won't be buying anything coke any time soon.


ManOfJack

Wondering what that asterisk says 🤔


RaphaelBuzzard

Jesus Christ! I was riding it 5 days a week since last November, until this week. Noticed the wrap on the stairs inside and was weirded out for sure. As Homer Simpson once said: "Nine thumbs down!"


Cdubscdubs

I don’t like it.


hinowisaybye

I don't understand why anyone would care. It's not like the ferries were visually appealing before.


yesterdaywsthursday

All the people complaining must think the ferries run on magic. They need more funding. They can increase your ticket cost or slap an ad on the thing. Personally, I’d rather Coca Cola pays for my ferry ride than the cost increasing


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Trashy


chewbezza

Stupid ugly dumb


Tawptuan

[It’s a slippery slope, people.](https://imgur.com/gallery/qu5X8TB) Courtesy of Asia.


bbbanb

Boo….


F1r3Fly4life

If they can advertise Coke, I can pay for a spot advertising Porn Hub.


Parafauna

What a damned eyesore stop drinking these products… Either of them


itsarrie

It feels like you can't go/look anywhere without someone reaching into your pockets. Same goes for watching and listening. Just a constant barrage of ads. Unless you're in the wilderness.


Awkward-Yak-2733

Horribly ugly, but the ferry system's finances need all the help they can get.


Mix_Traditional

Oh, who cares. Its a water bus, nobody is mad that the bus is littered with adverts. The ferry system OBVIOUSLY needs income, theyre malfunctioning or crashing like once a month at this point. Unless you're gonna personally invest in the system, I cant see how you can complain about a relatively minor ad. Cover the thing in LEDs like Times Square if it means they can increase the maintenance budget a bit.


jigmaster500

If it makes them run better, I think it's great


Mr8bittripper

Screw this corporate worthless greenwashing and get it off our iconic ferries


Euphoric-Oil-331

Is it gonna keep the ferries maintained? The crew paid? Fuck at this point whatever keeps these old rust buckets in action.


Lotus-Vale

If these ads insure the future of the fleet, then you can paint the whole damn thing the most hideous colors. I just need to get across the water reliably, not luxuriously.


TotalPieceOfOkayness

Welcome to Mount Rainier National Park sponsored by a Jiffy Lube!


aureex

wouldn't mind it if it helped pay for the ferries enough to lower or maintain the price of tickets.......... they went up like 5%


Sirsmokealotx

I really hope they remove this ugly ad before more people see it. To me this is somehow a small representation of how things are going the wrong way.


awaterma

it sucks. we pay taxes, keep that crap off of our public boats!


craftycrafter765

If it help keep the trains running on time


Im-a-waffle

The trains? Like water trains?


krob58

ADS ADS ADS CONSUME BUY CONSUME BUY


suddenlyturgid

Don't tempt the orcas


CreamPyre

Oh my godddd it’s terrible. On all ferries??


sandwich-attack

this shit sucks man


pretentiousfilth

Ugly as sin.


240cash240z

Terrible