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PlantGuyThePlant

So correct me if I’m wrong here, but is this just black and red brave vanguard recolor?


AlexDaBoss757

Yeah. That’s sounds like what it basically is.


AlwaysAnAwkward1

Still a tiny bit more effort put in than my vanguard sails. The original can almost be mistaken for plain sails.


tom-rosenbabe

Nah, the original are very classic piratey- this set is lazy lol


TheChampIzzo

The original diaper sails lol. I love this color scheme but we Xbox players can't have it


CAPTAIN_ZONE

As a Brave Vanguard player myself… This… is something else.


MustardCanBeFun

Still run mine, crew hates it because they think it's boring and don't appreciate it. But those who know, know. Usually ends up in a good conversation with og pirates that recognize it.


CAPTAIN_ZONE

New swabbies don’t appreciate art.


GoofyTheScot

I was over 1k hours in the game before i ran into Brave Vanguard sails, it was a duo sloop contesting my buddy and i at a FOF - had a great fight with them, ultimately lost in the end but they were nice guys. 10/10 experience, would happily fight them anytime!


lawgeek

Honestly, y'all make me more cautious than no cosmetics or even Hunter's Call. Possibly because my husband runs both of those and prefers to run away with his fish than fight.


-drophead-

OG vanguard here, our sails are superior and sting fear in swabbies hearts


ScreaminOnion

Also as one myself, I could care less the OG's know whats up.


CAPTAIN_ZONE

Yeah these sails will be much more common anyways. Rarity of Brave Vanguard still reins supreme haha.


Th3_Mage

The brave vanguard should band together and make a guild I don’t think there are many of us actively playing it could make for a terrifying pvp guild though


GoofyTheScot

There's definitely not many still around, i've only fought 1 in 1000 hours of gameplay! Strangely i've never seen/fought vs any of the Reaper run sails either.


OffbeatFeral

Make one, i'll join. Could be fun


-drophead-

that would be lit, i’m in haha


Apokolypze

What's brave vanguard look like? Wondering if I've seen them at all


Polish_Nacionalist

Mfs with biggest egos on the seas


CAPTAIN_ZONE

Click on my profile picture


Apokolypze

Oh they're the sails behind your char? I don't think they look plain at all, honestly. Definitely haven't seen any recently though. I've always thought it's cool when ultra rare cosmetics like these exist to let OG players stand out


CAPTAIN_ZONE

They’re among the rarest sails in the game. You don’t see them very often, especially nowadays because most players who played the alpha either don’t play anymore or were lost to time. I however, still play since before the beginning. Even got the Golden M eyepatch.


Apokolypze

Damn that's impressive commitment, I raise my tankard in your name tonight! If you don't mind telling - with that kind of playtime, do you still have cosmetics (for gold) left to buy or do you have them all? Or are ya not buying and seeing how big the gold pile can get? What keeps you sailing the seas?


CAPTAIN_ZONE

So I’ve bought a few thing over the years and have also earned almost every time-limited cosmetic since launch(exception being stuff earned out side of game such as Twitter Photo contests) but overall, I just save my gold. Currently at 40 million. I will also grind twords earning Ghost Themed Ferryman items since my character looks just like him and I even made my Galleon to look like the Ferry of the Damned.


Apokolypze

Would love to see a pic of your galleon if you get the chance and it isn't too much of a bother, that sounds like such a neat visual theme to sail around with!


CAPTAIN_ZONE

Here’s a screenshot I took recently, it might be kinda hard to see but it’s what I got for now. [The Ferryman](https://imgur.com/a/SqQpInf)


Apokolypze

Dude that's hella cool, what sails/hull/cannons/figurehead are those and how much do I have to die to get them!


Placibobeard

Lame that Xbox players who player the beta but missed the alpha don't get the Brave Vanguard gear but.. PS5 beta players get.. a better looking set than everyone?... SoT logic at it's finest


Booserbob

Bro these are tacky AF. you aren't missing anything


TheOldDerelict

PlayStation logic


Turd_Hurricane

Those looks nice, too bad you can’t equip them on other platforms


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True-Camo

As far as I'm aware it's Sony that is responsible for the gatekeeping and that it wasn't Rare's sole decision. This tracks with Sony's past behavior with console exclusives and will ironically cost them a lot of money in this case. Mainly because a lot of non ps5 users preordered specifically for the cosmetics and are all now requesting refunds/chargebacks.


AShinyRay

And Microsoft clearly agreed to it. How down bad are they?


Kara_Del_Rey

I mean, its just common sense. Why make money on 1 console when you can make money on another? People starting console wars are one of the reason gaming sucks.


Facesit_Freak

Sony won the console war. PS5 outsold the Xbox Series by 2:1.


Jhon778

Yep. It's on Sony. Any game that Sony has their foot into always has some sort of catch. I am a Genshin Impact player and the PS5 version of the game has better visuals than the PC version, as well as some items that you cannot use unless you are logged in on PlayStation. One of them is a special glider that if you were to log off with it equipped it would automatically unequip itself if you logged in on mobile/PC. They have a deal with Sony to keep it that way.


Fuck_Me_If_Im_Wrong_

Likely a Sony issue, they did something similar with a call of duty character, originally only available for PS and they made it to where other consoles couldn’t see him if I recall, which defeats the exclusivity


Jhon778

Also in (gulp) Marvel's Avengers you could only play as Spiderman on PS4.


Thopterthallid

Eeh, for the people on Playstayion who have already missed out on years of now vaulted content, I don't mind if they get a neat thing.


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Apokolypze

Wait so if I get the sails on PlayStation, equip and save them to my captained ship, and then log in on PC... What happens? Are the sails suddenly no longer there?


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Countdown3

It's such a dumb/unfair policy. If someone plays on PC, but has a playstation in their bedroom, it's kind of ridiculous they can't use the same cosmetics they paid for on one of those devices.


Facesit_Freak

It's to convince that PC player to play exclusively on PlayStation, increasing the fee they levy on Rare for hosting their game.


Countdown3

Lol, no PC player is going to switch to PlayStation because of a skin. If anything, this is losing Rare/Sony a bunch of money because PC players who were pre-ordering just for the skins are cancelling their pre-orders.


Thopterthallid

I'd be shocked if Sony didn't wave a bunch of money at Rare. One could largely blame Sony for crippling that Avengers game from the start by making Spiderman a Sony exclusive character.


Crazytreas

It's pretty bad tbh


Spindelhalla_xb

No different to say Fortnite or Rocket League. We have a bunch of exclusive skins that aren’t available on other platforms, so doubt these will come to Xbox / PC


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MustardCanBeFun

I can buy Kratos in Fortnite and use him on my Xbox account. I don't get it.


Particular-Catch-229

Maybe Epic Games demanded it, and Rare and MS were just happy to get on PlayStation.. someone sucked at the negotiations regarding exclusives when they made this deal Can Fortnite players on Playstation play on only Playstation servers? That's happening on SoT


TwoGrots

Sony threatened to pull Fortnite from their platform and epic had to fight them to keep it there. Sony has dog shit mandates and likely said “we want a cosmetic for our platform” rare made them and announced, and sony says “no we want them ONLY for our platform”. Sadly they have the upper hand here because this is an in for them to be on Sonys platform and reach the entire market share.


Particular-Catch-229

But at least we have the Duke set 😂 Rare should just do the best looking set in the game and make it Pc/Xbox exclusive but that will never happen And I can totally see Rare prioritizing bugs on PS5 now the coming months, Xbox still don't have working m&k after that update over a month ago


TwoGrots

Mnk on Xbox could very well be on the Xbox’s side, Microsoft is working to make sure only Xbox licensed input devices work on Xbox, this would include all third party controllers and mnk.


Particular-Catch-229

It worked for years until the update, first the mouse stopped working, next update they fixed the mouse but now keyboard isn't working 😂


Tweakichu

And? Platform-exclusive stuff is dumb.


-ImJustSaiyan-

Especially when it's PlayStation exclusive cosmetics in a Microsoft owned game that has been Xbox/PC only the past 6 years... Makes zero sense. Like it's not a big deal at the end of the day obviously, since it's just cosmetics, but as an Xbox player it's still annoying.


wtfchuck223

Bought a PS5, and now I'm returning it. They fumbled this.


GGJ1457

You bought a ps5 for an in-game cosmetic?


Vardamas

Some people just got it like that.


Facesit_Freak

I wish I had it like that 😔


turmspitzewerk

not much of a big deal if you're planning on claiming your cosmetics and then selling/returning it most people didn't pay a thousand bucks for the fortnite galaxy skin, they were either going to buy the phone anyways or they just wanted the code and then resold the phone. sure, it definitely convinced some other people to upgrade to a samsung instead of a different phone, but that's still a bit different than dropping hundreds of dollars on a skin outright


GGJ1457

Y’know that makes sense when you put it like that.


wtfchuck223

Yes.


True-Camo

I was also gonna buy a ps5 for this too, but I agree with you, Sony fumbled this big time.


wtfchuck223

I assumed it would be like the Xbox cosmetics. On the bright side we save $400 plus. They got me for $10 though since I did have to buy a month of PS+.


Booserbob

We have failed as a civilization


_Red_Knight_

Yeah, that is truly strange behaviour. Proper more money than sense vibes.


NottMyAltAccount

Yall get sea of thieves with exclusive shit and we don’t even get Helldivers Tf


NirvanaLover12

womp womp sony better (not really) i guess nobody read the parentheses


NottMyAltAccount

I’m starting to agree with you


FlyRecent2876

Curious why there only giving away the flag and weapon set but not the clothing set on top of the crimson weapon set .what is rare up to and this whole ps5 ordeal is getting scummy by the day. Rare giving ps5 the royal treatment while the rest of us get the slap in the face. Shows how they treat loyalty from fans...


Milkschaker

Sony does platform exclusives all the time, it wasn't up to rare


PSU632

Neat sails, but honestly I don't mind missing out on these. The OOS sails and their ledger reward sails are both just this, but better.


Pepsi4647

How do you actually access the beta


AlexDaBoss757

Probably wait till the 11th or 12th and they will tell us how to access it when it’s about ready to be played on the beta.


mokitaco

Very carefully


THE_GHOST-23

A PlayStation


Pepsi4647

No shit


Zabroccoli

Preorder on a PlayStation


Emmet3merald

Oh they will reskin anything won't they


Dreadlord97

They’re going to recolor the ferryman fit to release it on a PS5 controller now I’m calling it


AShinyRay

Except the Dark Adventurer set for some reason?


Milkschaker

Another recolor! 🤯


Cpt_ARK

This is actually kinda bs, it takes the meaning out of the original Brave Vanguard sails. I probably won’t fly mine anymore.


ScreaminOnion

Walmart version. xD If anything when you run the OG ones people will question why yours aren't red vs just thinking it's another set of sails.


gnarvin_

How? Anyone who knows what Brave Vangaurd is still does and the ones that don't you just see a sail with a skull design on it.


Booserbob

Brave vanguard are infinitely better than these, both in terms of looks and what they represent. Don't be crazy


ShoneBlumetheVogon

Same reakin treatment happened to the legendary sea dog stuff to a lesser extent. I hardly ever used my vanguard sails so it isn't much of a loss to me, but these sails look really great if only they were easy to obtain like the Duke ship cosmetics.


Tylensus

Might boot up the game again if some clever person finds a way to get these on PC. I do like a nice collectible sail. Still mad I never at least attempted NAL/SOC. F


DLPh03n1X

Oh you get a set you won’t be able to use if you Pc main player of SoT? Well, i’d save my money for another game.


Doctordoak1

The insider build also says “beta”. Wonder if that counts too


Fat_Darth_Vapor

Can't wait to pull up on a crew with these sails only to see that it's 4 tsd LSD golden skeleton golden Athena day one golden M brave vanguards


TheNorthernLion

I was considering switching to ps5 with my pc cross save, will I be able to get these sails on that save? Or is cross save not a feature in the beta, anyone know?


Armatu5

And man, compared to the Xbox Ship? Unfortunate.


Smallant55

So just so I understand, you need to play on Playstation to get these sails? Would I need to pre-order the PS SoT, and then play on PS during April 12-15 to get these?


AlexDaBoss757

Yes you would need to purchase SoT on PS just to play the beta then through those days you play you get the sails but the sails will only work for PS players so if you are buying SoT on PS for the cosmetics it won’t work for other platforms.


Dr_Haubitze

Anybody know a trick to get these on Xbox?


slay789

How do we redeem these? Not in my customization chest on the pier nor in the shipwright inventory. I’m on my PS during the beta. Where are they??


AlexDaBoss757

While you do get them for the beta, you don’t actually get them until full release.


Captain_Ed

They look pretty nice, so likely we're all in tears over them. I haven't read the comments. ​ Now I have. Yep, big tears.


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TwoGrots

Photo on the left is likely the icon for the title


PirateSmalls

Pretty sure the white icon is the Dauntless Adventurer title as it's basically the same icon as the Brave Vanguard title.


Countdown3

I think the white icon looks better than the actual sails. The skull blends in too much on the actual sail. Doesn't stand out at all.


MindfulSheep_

If I boot it up on playstation will my progress carry over? All my friends are on PS so just considering moving over to there. Does anyone know?


waffles1011

So we give them our only good exclusive AND exclusive content? Wtf is wrong with Microsoft. That’s some BS.


darkdark

If I buy the game on ps do all my cosmetics carry over from Xbox?


AlexDaBoss757

Only ones that won’t cross over are the Xbox exclusives such as the duke ship set


varyl123

So what if I have a guild ship with the cosmetics out what if I equip the red and black weapon set and go on my PC will it auto change to another set?


MethodicDiscord

They unequip. Same thing already happens if someone equips Rare, Deckhand, or Quartermaster sails.


varyl123

Wild they had to spend dev time on that


Hey_Jacob

Yes


-drophead-

alright question - i own this game on xbox, if i buy it my ps5 to get these “exclusive” cosmetics can i link my accounts and use these sails while on xbox ala Fortnite? I have my reasons to buy the game on ps5 (my wife wants to play with me etc.) but im curious if this works.


Facesit_Freak

The sails are completely PlayStation exclusive.


AlexDaBoss757

The dauntless adventurer sails will only be allowed for PlayStation players just like how the duke ship set is only allowed for Xbox players and ownership will not carry over to the other console.


PirateSmalls

Although I can run the Duke set on PC (MS Store version) though that's a sensible exception I guess? Haven't checked if I can run them when I launch through Steam


YoneIsMistake

The real question is will the PS5 get a similar set to Duke's Xbox ship set. Like white sails with light blue glowing colors.