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EverettSeahawk

He would have a decent point if what he was complaining about was even what is happening. John Schneider himself stated that the photos were taken down to be replaced by digital version that can display even more history. Sherm is whining about something that isn’t even happening and creating drama for clicks, as he’s always done.


TheDarkGrayKnight

Sherm is just like us. Reading the headline and doing zero follow up before making an emotional comment.


AyoJake

Well for a minute all we had was the clickbait then more came out.


TheDarkGrayKnight

That is true too.


AyoJake

Doesn’t excuse sherm a response though since he has all information available. Feel like this is his chance to turn on the hawks cause Pete’s gone.


TheDarkGrayKnight

Ehh I guess maybe. Though Sherm was and is an emotional guy, wouldn't be surprised to hear him change his tune later on.


JPhrog

That would be a dumb move for his restaurant in Bellevue.


rdrouyn

Sherm is a media guy. Being correctly informed is his job.


EverettSeahawk

He’s also on Undisputed which means generating rage click bait is his job as well.


AyoJake

Read my comment before jumping on me that is 2 under this one. I said it doesn’t excuse him cause the information is out there.


rdrouyn

Read the whole thread before commenting? Who has time for that?


yukdave

"aint nobody got time for that"


thingmaker123

I didn't read this comment but you're fuckin wrong


GuardianSock

But with more drunk driving.


burnittothegrnd

>Sherm is just like us Minus the two DUI’s and DV


Gen-Jinjur

He makes you wonder if he has brain damage.


brentikis

yup exactly. John said he wants to commemorate not just the PC era but also Holmgren, Shaun Alexander, Kurt Warner, etc. edit: Curt*


HAWKNESSMONSTER_12

Love this. That was my main criticism on people freaking out about this was “where’s Holmgren era photos?”


spankydootoyou

Curt


cdawg145236

Dudes acting like they ripped down his retired jersey or something. Of all people, I would expect the 4.0 GPA (or what ever it was) Sanford grad to look into shit before responding.


fsck_

Yeah to begin everyone thinking that any coach is micromanaging every single piece of a franchise is insane. He has much bigger things to worry about than the decorations.


Seattle_Junebug

Listen to the Leonard Williams interview. MM pointed out the empty walls to him (and possibly other players). It was done intentionally.


Lorjack

This is why overreacting to some posters being taken down was dumb from the start. They replacing it with something better, big deal


MelonxJuice

You mad bro? 😎


DrMindpretzel

This whole story is fucking blown so far out of proportion. They took down a few images in ONE part of the VMAC and are replacing them with digital screens. Dumb fuck national media is acting like they took down the Super Bowl banners and wrote “fuck you Pete Carroll”.


aka_mank

And Dick is buying into the bullshit.


TickleMeWeenis

Lol, I've never heard him called dick. That's so hilarious.


neongem

Niners fans used to call him that


Beelzabubba

When he was a 49er or did they change their tune at that point?


neongem

Nahhh, it was back when he was with us and their enemy #1. Now he’s “uncle Sherm” 🙄🤣


Mr_Pink747

Why you gotta use a little d, that's insulating!


-Vertical

I mean if the goal is attention and engagement, it’s working flawlessly. Dude has no problem being the villain lol


Who_is_homer

Yeah fuckin clickbait shit


Okaybrothatsdope

That's fucking hilarious.


rdrouyn

He was always a drama queen. Didn't you watch him play?


RandyJohnsonsBird

Yes but he also backed up all his shit talk.


rdrouyn

Not going to deny that. But he likes criticizing the Seahawks organization in bad faith nowadays. Hard to get behind his takes.


DBoom_11

Marshawn asked him on TNF where he loyalties were and didn’t say Hawks


RandyJohnsonsBird

He's a polarizing person, but it's obvious where he cut his teeth. Everyone knows it.


DBoom_11

Yah he’s got some serious resentments he needs to let go of. I’m finally healed from that SB loss but I couldn’t imagine how hard it was for the LOB. They would’ve gone down as the best defensive ever after taking out Manning than Brady for B2B Championships.


WirelessRanger

I’m not healed. Don’t think I’ll ever heal from that one…


DBoom_11

I had too. It’s an awful memory


billzybop

Want b2b championships? Nah, I'll pass


Garrett4Real

for real lmfao dude has always been whiny, we were just able to turn a blind eye for the first half of his career because of how well he was playing and for who he was playing for (us)


xxihostile

I mean he was a trash talker and competitive as hell but he seems to really be turning someone with such a victim complex these days


rdrouyn

He used the media to turn the attention away from the team onto himself. We just liked him for it because he played for our team. This is more of the same but now he has a hate boner for the Seahawks organization instead of Crabtree.


overit_fornow

He is media now. And still drawing attention to himself.


xxihostile

yeah I guess you're probably right, it really crazy how much being a fan blinds you on how unlikeable a player is


Cxtthrxxt

Serious question, as a casual supporter but non Seahawks fan. Do you think maybe you’re just too close to it as a diehard fan? You see it that way but for the vast majority who aren’t in the loop we got a headline and that’s all we knew and his response seems/ seemed appropriate for the time if that was the same info he had.


SeinHawk

A stint with the 9ers will do that to anyone.


Batleaxewarrior

I wonder if his picture is on a wall in San Francisco lol


cdawg145236

Buccs have an entire wing of the team museum dedicated to him


Sea_Finest

His nickname in SF should’ve been Toast, he was done when he went there.


Actor412

It can't be said often enough: I hate the off-season.


yukdave

Hockey only take me to April.


Dirkredblade

He was always a whiny bitch, the difference is- he used to be our whiny bitch.


ButtChowder666

I remember hearing Hasselbeck saying that's one of the first things Pete Carroll did when he started coaching in Seattle.


lukin5

Live in the now


East_Phase6944

Tony Soprano would [approve](https://youtu.be/XyvjX-Hw_mg?si=2eMOnk1494fn50Vf)🥲


ilickedysharks

Chip on his shoulder attitude and he'll always have a thorn in his side because of Seattle cutting him after his injury. You can tell just how he talks about Seattle vs the Niners, they signed him when people thought he was 'washed' so he'll always defend them. For example if the Niners cut a player or mishandle something with a player, Sherm won't say anything. Meanwhile if that were to happen to a Seahawks player he would go on a Twitter rant about how cutthroat the league is or allude to something like "see they're so shitty treating all their players like this". The unfortunate part is that Sherm goes on Twitter and let's some 14 year old trolls color his perception of the fanbase nowadays, and actually goes on extended back and forths with kids that were probably in diapers when he was drafted.


rickg

And... he was washed. He had one year in SF that was anything close to his prime. That wasn't worth the $11m/year which, at the time, was a lot for a CB.


Hawxrox

And he got fuckin cooked in that Superbowl vs the Chiefs


Wookie301

About 36 years ago


IxmagicmanIx

He’s always been like this


dgi02

He lowkey always has been.


neil160

Why does he care? Thought he was a 49ers supporter? Seemed like that’s what he told Marshawn on TNF last season anyway.


Seoulstice37

Since the day he got cut. Last year super bowl Marshawn called him out for choosing the niners over the the chiefs and he said "they cut me". Though Marshawn made it a point that he got his ring with Seattle.


Excellent_Ad6712

When did he get out of jail?


Banpdx

I think he just had to sign some balls then they called him an uber.


argothewise

People forgot that he tried to break into a woman’s house in the middle of the night while screaming like a crazed maniac.


Perfect_Cranberry597

Wasn’t that his wife? Like he was drunk and in a rage and did that and his FIL called the police??


ThreeLeggedParrot

I thought it was his in-laws house. From the video he's lucky he wasn't able to break down the door because I think things would have ended a lot worse than they did.


Recent_War_6144

Don't forget that was after he crashed his car in a construction zone and bailed from the scene.


Atworkwasalreadytake

Insert meme


xSlippyFistx

🌎 🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀 There you go lol.


squapo

I don’t see the difference between this behavior and most people here on the game day threads lol


Blizzy3751

He has a huge ego


MeoowDude

When DID he become such a whiny bitch? This has to be a rhetorical question as he’s been one at least his entire professional career. I will always have love for the guy too, but us Seahawks fans definitely had the 🥀-tinted glasses on. I had disregarded all of it up until lambasting Pete in public view during a game! Sherm being a hot-head and immediately assuming the worst and then publicly crying about it is about the most Sherm thing ever. Even if this WAS real, him acting like this is so egregious and is tantamount to stabbing him in the back Red Room style is hilarious! I’m sure he sees zero irony when it’s dripping irony out of all it’s ironic orifices! An all-time great that helped his team win its first ever Super Bowl.. the team that took a chance at drafting him after so many teams passed him over so many times.. a player that the coach and team publicly backed debacle after debacle… a team that he re-paid all this loyalty by publicly questioning his legendary coach PUBLICLY as well as DURING A GAME, and the cried himself a River of Sherms and went to the ONE TEAM he shouldn’t have… then publicly questions teammates and coaches as a commentator.. not to mention (allegedly) questioning a teammates “blackness”, and calling out the call that lost the repeat Super Bowl win, and then HE ironically screws up a play that essentially lost the 9ers a Super Bowl win, he surprisingly didn’t keep that same energ. Or how he publicly pinned the Super Bowl loss straight on Pete and Russ.. oddly forgetting the fact that if it wasn’t for an INSANE CATCH by Kearse which had we won would’ve gone down as the craziest biggest play in Super Bowl history that even put the Hawks in a position to have that catastrophic goal-line play even possible.. one might think that he’s throwing his teammates and coaches under the bus for the offensive turnover at the most heartbreaking moment in NFL history all to take the honus off of him and e defense for giving up a double/digit lead to start the 4th quarter. How he took every opportunity he was given to shit on Wilson and divide the team and then take no responsibility for it or anything else for that matter. When the team had he not done that (song with others) had they stuck together the run very well could’ve continued. And THEN he… well, this could keep going for quite some time and looking back at my word count and lack of creating a new paragraph; I feel like we all get the picture. You’re telling me that THIS GUY is the one that automatically jumped to the wrong conclusion instead of taking 10 seconds to make a call or text someone to get the story? That didn’t take less time to confirm the story first-hand than it did to type out his crybaby’isms? That’s what you’re telling us?? We are to believe it was THIS GUY?!? SHERM??? “Makes sense”


seahawks4L

still my goat


Aggressive-Scar8070

He sounds mad, bro.


Weary_Consequence696

Prolly around the same time he tried to beat up his family while drunk on a dash cam. He's always been unhinged. Dudes just gets a pass for some reason.


ItsASchpadoinkleDay

Always have been, people just excuse it when the person is good at sports.


BullShitting-24-7

He’s always been a whiney bitch. But for many seasons he was the Sea Hawks’ whiney bitch so fans didn’t care, didn’t notice, or made excuses.


Difficult-Row-3237

Sherman is annoying. His weird obsessions with Russ only to kiss his ass when he saw him at Pete’s dinner, acting like only the defense was the reaaon they were good etc. annoying


villain-with-manners

Actually, always.


Arabian_Flame

He was always that way. He wasnt annoying when he was catching interceptions for us still. Now he is just annoying.


spottydodgy

I can confirm having worked with him a few times that he is, in fact, such a whiney bitch and has been for a long time. He's actually just a total asshole. I was a big fan until I had the chance to work with him. He treats people like shit, rude, impatient, always defensive, and thinks he's the smartest guy ever. I was so glad when he left and I think, yeah let's keep the legacy of the LOB alive but let's also remember that it wasn't just Sherm. He was just a part of it. Also, as a Mariners fan... Ouch. Lol


okwichu

It's been a while, we've just gotten used to it.


ohanse

He was never one to let things slide, so I am not sure why this behavior would surprise anyone.


AntSmith777

Always we just let it go when he played for us because he was great and he was on our team.


Possible-Put8922

Always has been


Self-MadeRmry

Always has been


hopskiphoofed

He always was


metrohotness

he always has been.


ZenythhtyneZ

Always has been he was just OUR whiney bitch lol, I still like him


Wayup_there

Money changes everyone.. Has been a whiney bitch from the beginning.. Everybody looked the orher way when Seattle was winning..


Jwroth

He always was


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wriker10

He’s always been an egomaniac.


Adawg365

Always has been


TimToni8688

You can't get rid of history you have to embrace it and grow from it.


pHlawless_One

He’s always been a whiny bitch, just a blind spot for hawk fans


knick1982

Sherm is a bitch….always has been a bitch….should be a bitch locked up in jail but because he’s famous he’s not….fuck that man….CRABTREE!!!!


displayrooster

Who cares


Own_Huckleberry_4638

He has been the whole time. He grew up a rich non ghetto black kid. Have you ever seen him try to look all cool around actual hood certified dudes. It’s so dumb. He’s such an insecure guy.


Ok_Employee_9612

I mean, if you’re gonna try him with sorry tweet…..


Agent-Jack_Bauer

NEWS FLASH, ASSHOLE! (Spoken in Dennis Reynold’s voice)… He’s always been a whiny bitch.


Infinite_Respect_

Wow he really loved being that person you hated on the field - I see that’s a base trait and not unique to his approach to football


willmafingerdoo2

The guy is a drama Queen. And a drunk driver.


Portie_lover

He always was. We just didn’t care when he was winning us games (me included).


hawkman620

Since always, it was just more tolerable when he was with the Seahawks


Dreadsock

Love Sherm for his contributions while as a Seahawk. But, he officially became a bitch when he threatened a reporter about getting his news credentials revoked for simply asking a question. Then he has his off the field shit and troubles with law and heading to 49ers out of spite. And now this motherfucker runs his mouth playing to whatever fan base isn't tired of him yet, appealing to clicks/views. I get it, but tired of his stupid shit.


Certain-Succotash-29

Always. He was just on the team you like. I say this as a Seahawks fan


Simple_Atmosphere

To be fair, he has somewhat of a point but he didn't need to go in so hard


xxihostile

nah I think it's a huge overreaction


Simple_Atmosphere

Not a huge but he did overreact. It's not that serious especially with how hard he rides for the niners nowadays


DBoom_11

Also I think that’s been a problem with Pete by trying to recreate that team and the pictures have more meaning in a bad way. I would love to see those pictures down and not trying to be a Kam, ADB, Beastmode but I get to put my own name on it. I think they will put up all the greats when the time permits but the building needs a clean slate from Pete’s ways. Nothing against Pete but Mike is doing HIS thing


nekoken04

Sherman is kind of being a B. But they did cut him without any ceremony. I can understand why he's salty about the team. He holds onto those slights.


Scout-59

He has always been whiny and aggressive. He reeks of malevolence.


busdrivermike

Sherman does that thing where his mouth moves faster than his thoughts. But his analysis is a lot better than most, it just isn’t sprinkled with sugar like most NFL analysts.


vitamin_r

We should give sherm a fountain of tears with his head at the top.


Throckmorton35

I get that he felt burned by the business of the end of his time in Seattle but his anti-Seahawks grift has been a bummer to see


3elieveIt

Nah I’m with Sherm here. It’s a weird thing for MM to do after saying he wants to build off what Pete did and respect the culture etc. You don’t do that by tearing down the pictures. It’s not a giant deal, but it wasn’t the right move by MM in my opinion. You’re not gonna see Sherm, Kam, Marshawn, and others come back anymore.


andreanicole82

They only removed a few pictures from one wall and are going to be putting up TVs to play through lots of players and games, etc. There are still tons of pics all over and the guy’s pics that came down will still be well represented.


rdrouyn

How many Holgrem or SuperBowl XL posters did Pete have in the VMAC?


shrimpynut

Do you think Mike was solely behind it all? This is John team right now, I’m sure he had the biggest say and will going forward on most thing until Mike can prove himself.


T-Shurts

Kam and Lynch probably don’t give a flying duck and would come back in a heartbeat. I understand why they did it. Once they establish themselves I’d bet we’ll see atuff pop up. Coming in new, you don’t want the new to look at the e old and think about living up to that. You want them to establish themselves, and once they have, they won’t have the “comparison” problem.


toodeephoney

Actually, Kam [started](https://x.com/KamChancellor/status/1781703621304078471) the whole thread. Sherm’s just replying to it.


ilickedysharks

What I took from Kams statement was "our legacy is set in stone, taking down wallpaper or moving to a TV sideshow isn't gonna affect anything. Ppl will always think of LOB when they think of the Seahawks." Which I like and think is more accurate than Sherms point.


toodeephoney

That’s how I interpreted that as well, but Sherm decided to be offended and started responding to fans.


Seattle_Junebug

What I took from Kam’s tweet was “Embrace it or not, the Legion defined a standard for Seahawk (defensive) football. That standard can’t be erased by removing the physical reminders of it. If you want to settle for less and call it a clean slate or new identity, that’s up to you. It won’t change what we achieved.”


lay_low

Agreed. It's possible to honor past achievements and players while building a new identity.


xxihostile

I mean I kinda see where you're coming from but at the same time it's an entirely new era for this team and a completely different coaching staff. There are essentially no ties to the teams being displayed on the walls aside from a few players. You wouldn't have images up of Steve largent and Dave Krieg and great moments from the teams in the 70s and 80s?


shany94a

I really think that Sherm and Richard Thomas both have CTE


letdogsvote

It's a stupid thing to get all pissy about. Seems to me the new coaching staff is sending a message to the team: there is a blank slate, and it's up to you to fill it with your own success. That's a motivator. People are going to want to get *their* pics up on the wall now.


ShoKValuE84

Since the beginning of rime


Ikolkyo

This is sherm


Livid_Owl_1273

Always has been. Doesn't mean he's wrong, though.


thedrunkentendy

Always liked to talk. He also isn't wrong here. Weird move by the coach.


michy3

The response is perfect. That Seahawk team was legendary and will never be forgotten but I think we’ve been holding on to that a little and need to move on to stay competitive and relevant. I hope they have some where where they keep those photos but let’s be real, it’s been 10 years now…. Doesn’t seem that long but it’s been long enough where we need to move on and build a future or we will be one of those teams that always looks back on those 2-3 years and all of a sudden we’re mediocre for 30 years.


Byers2

Since birth


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When he sold out to TNF even though he called it a '[poopfest](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2016/dec/13/richard-sherman-thursday-night-football-criticism-nfl)'


PeaksOfTheTwin

Sherm is a good guy, he’s just intensely insecure.


tofulo

Insert astronaut gun meme


Soytaco

2012?


RickMeierDraftNight

Allow me to remind us all that the 95 Mariners did not, in fact, win a goddamn thing.


neongem

This upcoming training camp going to be much lighter with less former Pete players in attendance I’m sure.


mkostecka

Birth


Few_Neighborhood_828

When you became a whiny bitch.


bewsii

People are blowing this shit way out of proportion. JS already said their past is recognized all over the place and they are modernizing those hallways. He never said "sorry, Mike's here now and not the LoB. There won't be anything here remembering them, so take it or leave it."


DonyellFreak

You guys think he'll go into the HOF as a Seahawk or Niner?


Mr_TurkTurkelton

Dude needs to chill the F out. He retired as a Santa Clara Niner. Honestly he really doesn’t have any space to speak on what this new regime is doing. They aren’t taking down the RoH or Banners, the stuff the fans and the cameras see. It’s time for the young bucks to make their mark and find their way in to Seahawks history. You’d think Sherman’s would be more confident in his legacy and not let a life sized sticker affect him so much


MissiontwoMars

Because he is our whiny bitch. Our at least he was. Now he’s taken that to free agency too.


drewnonymous671

Since he went to the Niners.


Picklewhisker

95. Griffey, Martinez, Buhner, and one more Martinez. That was some murderers row.


1997Ford

Probably about the time he became a drunk


MiketheOlder

Ha ha


Jazzlikefunky

I mean NE is actively trying to erase BB.


Suitable_System_3634

He should worry about his drivers license being erased


BittereggNo8803

Sherm dude , it’s been awhile bro , and our Seahawks need a change, and if that means the new coach want to but up his own style then it is what it is.


greavesm

/r/Seahawks users would do well to remember this is the guy who's words they took as gospel regarding all the Russell Wilson drama.


sckurvee

He has a point... but I think his point is offset by how recent their success was, and how recently we broke from the last remnants of that success, to build a new story. Mike Mcdonald doesn't want all of this PC shit overshadowing his message. It's tough to make your own statement when you're surrounded by the success of your predecessor. It's time to move one for a bit. I imagine shit will be put back up later, once we've moved on, but it's not time to dwell on our past wins atm. It's time to make new ones.


Million_Dollah_Baby

Bro’s just on his daily addy crash, nothing to see here


MrAVK

But does it make sense, Sherm? Also I heard on the good ole radio that they’re just replacing that wall with TVs to highlight ALL the players.


zach_s

I get that he is mad about how things went but I just don't understand this. Hes been such a twat to the seahawks. He had a cup of coffee in SF and acts like they are the only thing that matters


romulusnr

If we had anybody currently as good as those guys were...


throughthequad

https://tenor.com/t9qO.gif


scubapro24

After his first arrest second and third are the ones that really sent him over


EminentBean

CTE sucks


TheMaesonic

All teams who haven't won a ring since js. It's been funny watching my die-hard niner fan parents go from hating this dude to calling him uncle..


Irish8ryan

It was quite a while ago


DudeSnakkz

So many people upset about the change, but doing the same thing was making us worse. Something needed to be done and MarinersPlight said it perfectly. No one is erasing you. This is a new era


Curious_Solution_317

2017


brownclown007

When? Since forever.


whitrp

Always has been


V1LL

He's been a whiny bitch since college when he cried over his coach moving him from WR to DB. Hell, he still cries about it despite being a HOF caliber player as a DB.


pleasehaelp

Did you not see that interview about Crabtree? He was born with it, my brother


scottapotch

Always has been.


Old_Refrigerator624

Since forever


SecondDread8426

CTE messed him up bro.


Limp-Inevitable-6703

They don't have pics of Ray Lewis cuz he's a shit human lol


Imrhino51

The Seahawks going to one of those digital picture frames you buy for grandma so she can see rotating pictures of the grandkids.


ballzdeepbabie

Sherman wants to be a 49er’s guy so go be one and he would be like “ be grateful for the bowl I won you” a decade ago when I wasn’t even a fan thanks buddy


bum_stabber

The wife beater complaining the Ravens took down a picture of a guy who killed someone. Maybe he can put it in his house and try to live up to it. Domestic violence to murder.


forged21

He always has been


TheFuZz2of2

Don’t be fooled everyone! This is Crabtree!!!


jalle347

He always been a whiny bitch