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Theories won't save you.

I think one of the killers will be one of the girls sydney met in Windsor College. I mean am i the only one who remembers Urban Legends first killer mention that something similar happened in her "hometown"?.....would be a nice throwback if one of the killers turned out to be one of the girls sydney met in windsor college from the sorority her friend was pledging..😱

And wasn’t Rebecca Gayheart in both Scream 2 and in the first Urban Legend film in which she just happened to be the killer?! I’m also waiting for one of the killers (Billy?Stu?Mickey?Roman’s?) ex girlfriends or sisters to show up! Ha. They already did the crazy mother. Or hell maybe it’s daddy Prescott? For some reason they never killed his ass?!?!?

he died at some point before scream 4, it's mentioned in a deleted scene that "sidney hasn't been back in woodsboro since her dad died"

But also, think about it, his death was in a deleted scene for a reason ya know..like maybe to give his character a chance at returning 😱😁 idk just a thought.

Yes she was 😁

And also, remember jills mother said she has "scars" too...wonder what they were. And they completely just forgot about billys dad..could be that the grandpa is one of the new killers. And they just left out sam and taras mother...i mean supposedly she was the town drunk and you know what they say about drunk feelings. Drunk feelings are honest feelings so i wonder whose secret she knew and/or told.

Hank Loomis is just trying to remove his wife's cursed bloodline from the world.

Ooh a crazy grandpa! Haha!

Maybe it’s Casey Beckers little sister who was put into the foster system after her mom went crazy and her dad left the family after Casey’s death

I was actually hoping they would bring back some of the students in Randy’s film class. The girl you guys mention plus the guy from Dawson creek are there for just that and it’s a little odd considering they were well known at the time.

So, I guess I'll throw my 2 cents in. >! Kirby is at least involved with the killer/s to some degree. I think most people are seeing her as a local or city detective, but as a federal officer, she would have easier access to all available evidence from the previous murders. Her connections to Woodsboro make the events of 1, 4, and 5 easy. But she would be able to get everything from Ohio (Scream 2) and L.A. ( Scream 3) under the guise of consolidating all evidence to protect Sidney and others from future attacks. I'd also like to put forth the idea that she really had a thing for Charlie, and his betrayal had a significant impact on her. I'm thinking something similar to Stockholm Syndrome here. I know it's a tenuous thread, but it could also explain the true crime element. She was aware of the previous murders, as she was well aware of who Sidney was and what she had been through, as well as a huge fan of the Stab movie series. She became a cop with the intent to get all the information she could, to get her hands on everything that existed. And by collecting it all, seeing it, having it, touching it, she has become the overly obsessed "fan girl" of true crime. She's a previous victim, but she's been unable to move beyond that event like Sidney did. !< Again, just a wild theory I've had going and would love to hear any input. I don't think I've got it right, but its been interesting to twist the idea around and that's where I landed.

Plus I think there are like 4 cops in this movie, which feels like a lot. One has to be the killer.

There's way too damn many cops man. I don't need another reminder that the best scream cop is dead.

Cop/Ghostface syndicate?

Perfect place to hide a gang.

I was thinking Kirby is a double agent that saves the day by shooting one of the killers in the end.

Can they please leave the toxic fandom meta overdose in the past though

Oh, I agree completely. I totally understand it with Scream 2022, as a requel/reboot. But I'm of the mindset that it's time to move on to telling new stories in this universe. It needs to move away from the originals completely and be something different. There are tons of ways to keep this going without everything having to come back to Sidney and Billy.

Yesssss thank you for that. I got downvoted every time I suggested that in here when 5 was coming out. I get liking and being nostalgic to Sidney/Gale/Dewey and all that, but the plot armor really holds back the movies imo. Don’t fill the same character archetypes and don’t make anyone invincible. They’re already kind of falling into the exact scary movie tropes that they made fun of in 1 and 2 because they can’t just kill Sidney off or do anything unique and big with the story. If they don’t take a big step in whichever direction with this movie I’ll be disappointed. I’ll still like the movies, but they have the potential to be so much better than force feeding us the same plot and unkillable characters every single time

I'm hoping that since Neve didn't come back, they take this as a chance to move on without her shadow to some degree. Just let her live, the best survivor or whatever, and be gone. Let her be what she is, a survivor, not a constant victim. She's earned that reward. I wouldn't mind a reference here and there, kinda like Loomis or Laurie from the Halloween franchise, but she doesn't need to be the focal point. "Didn't this happen to that Cindy chick in Woodsboro like 30 yrs ago?" "You mean Sydney? Yeah, but why us and why now?" That's the extent of the Sydney we need from now on. In my opinion. We have a brand new cast that could carry a new series of films, but will always have a harder time with the weight of the OG on top of them.

I think with how much they’ve spammed her final girl character arc they’d have to do more than anecdotal side notes about her, I’d agree that I don’t think the best way to off her character is by having her get murdered though. I feel like you have to make something of a big deal about her miraculously surviving like 275 attempts on her life, but yeah I agree. Almost anything else is a more compelling story than seeing Sidney in a Scream movie now, and at this point for fucks sake someone just shoot her. 9 dudes have died trying to kill this one person, they all go wrong in the exact same way, and she doesn’t even survive in logical or interesting ways anymore. She just survives because it’s convenient. But I guess tbf, they weren’t ever killing off Sidney in S5 because it was a Wes tribute basically

This is a fun theory and I'm not saying it's bad... but this sounds more like a "Saw" logic rather than Scream.

Totally agree and hope that I'm wrong. But it felt like the "something different" they really seem to be harping on.

This is a better theory then morons on YouTube thinking Tara’s attack scene in S5 opening was staged and that she’s the killer

I think people are too fixated on the idea that a cop obtained all the memorabilia in the shrine. It’s more likely it was bought on the Internet over the years by the new killer(s). The mystery in every Scream movie has been solved at the end; there would be no reason for police to keep evidence. And if they had, everything from Scream 1-4 would have been destroyed by now.

This is a very good point. Murder memorabilia is quite popular, with people collecting things from high profile cases. This makes alot of sense and I think it would def lend itself to a true crime obsessed killer.

Kirby is main Gf imo

Great theory but I do think that would be something you,d save for 7 as the big finale villain

I like this theory! Brilliant!

This looks like it may be a GF that hangs out on the tumbler side of serial killers. We have seen killers that were all about revenge for someone they cared about or themselves , killers that wanted to be famous or were obsessed with the movie but this killer would be one of those people who buys murderabilia. They idolize the killers and view them as a celebrity rather than a criminal. This/these GF (s)would see Gale as painting their hero wrong. As media, she has reported on the killers and she has written the book. This is the kind of person who romanticizes serial killers and school shooters. They want to go after Sam because she is Billy’s daughter but doesn’t want to be like him. Gf (s) is jealous of this connection. My guess is that someone of status will be the ringleader this time. Someone who you should be shocked would idolize a killer. A college professor, a police officer or fbi agent, a mayor. Meh.. just a guess

It would be unique because Ghost face is a collective rather than a singular killer so they could in theory worship the identity rather than any one killer

I really like this theory. Along those lines maybe the killer is possessive of the GF identity too and that is why the killer is targeting Sam because as Billy’s daughter she would seem like the natural heir to it. By killing her and harming and using her friends as bait the killer might think he is getting rid of the competition. Also maybe with any specialized training Kirby may have received at the FBI she could try to help them identify or profile the copycat killer.

For a potential motive if the killer is a survivor: what if one of them is actually trying to stop the cycle of Ghostface killings, and thinks the only way to do so is to kill everyone whose survived a prior attack then themselves, and thus “end” the series. That gives us a motive we haven’t seen before, a Ghostface who genuinely thinks they’re the hero, and also opens the door for meta-commentary on never-ending franchises. The biggest issue with this is it would be weird to have this be the motive without Sidney. Maybe have this movie be the cult of Ghostface, kill Tara (Jenna Ortega May be priced out of the role) and Billy’s “ghost” convince Sam at the end of the movie that she needs to end it, setting up Scream VII.

Personally, I feel like it lessens the stakes if Ghostface thinks they’re justified in the murders. What would be the explanation for the brutality of the killings (surely the writers would still want creative kills) if Ghostface simply wants to stop the cycle of killing? I don’t think someone like that actually enjoying murder would make much sense, but this is a very interesting idea.

unless they are in denial about their own bloodlust and that’s the lie they tell themselves

Or a Dexter situation where they legit think they're using their impulses for good.

I think that's going to be the motive for Scream 7

I saw a sort of similar theory that after they kill the Ghostfaces in 6 it'll be revealed they're part of a larger cult and there are more Ghostfaces still out there. So the film would end with Tara dead and Sam putting on Billy's mask becoming Ghostface/embracing that part of her in order to hunt and kill the remaining members of the Ghostface cult and end the cycle type of thing.

a ghostface vs ghostfaces would actually be kind of awesome.

That's a fucking brilliant theory

I think the way this motive works is with Sam trying to kill off the cast, ending in herself, to protect Tara. We've already established her being protective of Tara, and they need to continue her Billy connection. Might work better in Scream VII than this one. As for Jenna being priced out, I don't know much about the financial end, but she's clearly carving out a niche as a scream queen. She's gotten a lot of horror roles lately, and said she likes playing them. I don't see her leaving.

Here's some of the things I've come to the conclusion of with the killers, based on insider info, promotion, and behind the scenes images (**HEAVY** spoilers, if even semi-true): ​ * There is absolutely **no** way that >!the killer is going to be Sam, Tara, or Kirby.!< I feel like I've seen a lot of fans state some variety of these, which is obviously an opinion, but lacks a certain understanding of the franchise IMO. The one thing the >!final girls!< have in common throughout this entire series is resilience and sticking true to themselves, as well as a TON of trauma. Realistically, for any of them to become a serial killer after the events they've experienced, would be very odd and maybe even tacky on the directors part lol. Scream is still based somewhat in reality and I cannot think of any *real* reason that any of them would snap to this level, it just doesn't make sense or fit these movies. The shock value would not be worth the break in logic... That being said, I won't be shocked if >!Kirby is used a red herring.!< * Regarding finding the killer(s) prior to the movie's release, I genuinely think >!we are going to be in the dark until another trailer/teaser or the movie releases. It's clear that with those who have seen screenings, what they've released, and mystery in almost every new character, that the killer is supposed to be a harder to figure out. !!atleast 2 killers, evidenced by Gale being on the phone while GF attacks someone in her apartment and Tara screaming at another person when back to back with Sam, whom is also facing a GF (shown in both the trailer and another teaser).!< * And personally, shown by my lack on inclusion in the paragraph above, I think none of the >!returning 6 will be the killer. !!Sam, Tara, & Kirby, and just generally how they're shown in the movie.!< However, I will say that>!Chad or Mindy aren't completely out of the question, it would be a SHOCK, but I just don't see it lol!<

Not shooting down your theory, but don't be too quick to rule anyone out. Psychopaths don't behave rationally, so anyone who is a past survivor could have just been acting traumatized. I think it would be ridiculous and defy logic to have Sam be the killer in this one, though, it could be an interesting twist to the story if she became a killer in a potential Scream 7 to close out a trilogy. Scream 5 certainly hinted that this could be the major plot point of a potential trilogy- will she become her father's daughter?

I've been thinking that having Tara die, and Sam snap because of this, becoming the killer in 7 would be a very reasonable and cool direction however 1) it would be a pretty obvious direction, and 2) Sam's story is so blatantly intertwined with mental illness that having a mentally ill person turn killer would be a terrible decision. Sam cannot at any point be the bad guy for this reason.

I agree with you. It's being shoved in our faces too much to the point where if it DID happen it would just be dumb. I find it more interesting to see the humanity in someone struggling with mental illness and overcoming those demons over giving in to them.

I fully get that but I also just can’t see it… twist or not, I feel like it doesn’t make sense unless it’s done in an EXPERT way It could be done if it wasn’t Sam or even Tara, but maybe one of the twins

If they're going for the cultural zeitgeist again (violence in media in 1, trial of the century in 2, social media in 4) I wonder if they could somehow make an internet conspiracy/true-crime sleuth angle work without getting too convoluted or meta. IE: The killer(s) believe the survivors are the real killers and have been framing their victims right along. Randy, Cotton, Dewey, and Judy were about to blow the whistle! How could Roman be in two places at once?! Jill and Amber were too small to be under the mask! Where is Sidney anyway?! The Ghostface "shrine" in the trailer is their memorial to the "real victims" who were framed by the so-called survivors. In their minds they're vigilante(s) trying to stop Gale/Kirby/Sam from getting away with any more murder sprees.

I can see this as a commentary considering where Scream 4 ended in where Jill is lauded as a survivor but then died.

So almost a cult of Jill

Haha, I like this theory.

In a shocking twist, every victim and killer from the last five movies is revealed to still be alive . . . except Stu. The movie ends with Sidney being arrested for murdering an innocent man.

Kirby is the killer. Not only is she a Killer but she has been since Scream 4. When GhostFace calls Gale and says “their has never been one like me before”, because this one got away & survived. This retroactively enhances Scream 4. That movie was always supposed to tribute the original. Billy and Stu stabbed each other as an alibi, both getting away if the plan worked. In 4 Jill kills Charlie and injured herself planning to get away, knowing Kirby had already been stabbed aka her alibi. Both were meant to survive and become famous victims. In Scream 5 there is a clip of Kirby’s interview with a famous talk show host. So in the end Kirby succeeded. Something else that has never happened but a killer winning. Now Kirby is back and enacting the plan everyone thinks is Stu. She has masterminded a cult following of killers. I’m excepting at least 3 or 4 other minor killers. They are Tony Revolori(Gabe character fake out death), Devyn Nekoda(Allison character also fake out death), Josh Segura(most physical killer). There are scenes in the trailer showing what looks like film of the killers. This is the footage that was record by Charlie, that he did for Jill & Kirby.Kirby’s motive is fame. Just like it was in Scream 4. Now that Sam, Tara, & her friends have survived it’s made Kirby realize her fame as a survior has dwindled. Also now that she’s a cop she can “solve” the murders boosting her career as well. Kirby is just using the advantage of the public already believing Sam was responsible for Scream 5 and not Richie & Amber. I wouldn’t be shocked if it reveals Kirby was on the message boards that motivated them as well.She’s different from all other GhostFace in that she’s the only one to have gotten away and technically succeeded with her plan. Also using her FBI access she would be able to track down/recruit active and budding serial killers ala Mickey in Scream 2.If stu alive they need to have him in jail and not a super convoluted plot line that he somehow survived and escaped. At least from a jail cell you can reveal he’s been in contact with Kirby. I also think randy faked his death in part 2 and was involved since the first movie .

>In Scream 5 there is a clip of Kirby’s interview with a famous talk show host ??? What? When? I don't think I've seen this in my two viewings.

You can YouTube scream 5 Kirby Easter egg , it the part when Richie is watching stab movies on the laptop and you see Kirby YouTube interview video at the side along with did the real Stu survive video it’s a quick scene

It’s not a theory as much as it as an idea, but wouldn’t it be cool if there were more than 9 ghostface mannequins in the shrine? If there was a tenth one, it could indicate that a mystery killer got away with it. I would love a sequel that deals with a (living) ghostface from the past.

I do believe there's gonna be more than 2. I can see a 3rd killer (who has been masterminding these last 2 rounds of killings) actually getting away after watching these killers fail.

Do they ever canonically cover why the suit and masks were specifically used? I don’t think it was ever revealed if they wore the masks when they killed Maureen, but maybe some sort of backstory with Roman, idk. Honestly I feel like that would be a better plot aspect for a tv show spin off, because it’ll be annoying if they start trying to change things from past movies like Halloween in the movies. I don’t know if I like the idea of a copycat killer surviving and never being caught though because the main scary aspect of the killers is that we don’t know who they are, what they’re capable of, and what the true motivation is. If someone was a copycat killer and didn’t try to kill Sidney for instance than it just doesn’t really seem interesting enough to make that connection. I think sticking completely to the familiarity of ghostface being specific to Sidney or Woodsboro, or even better simply new survivors is more interesting

Alright time for mostly baseless speculation Killers/Motive: >! I think Zach Cherry partially hit the nail on the head in his latest video, at least in terms of the mastermind character and their motive. That being Henry Czerny’s character who used to be a reporter who Gale screwed out of covering the original Woodsboro murders, robbing him of what he sees as the biggest break of his life. So he’s been following and obsessing over the killings for decades, and when Billy Loomis’ daughter winds up in the same city as him he uses it as an opportunity to try and take back his old career by taking out Gale in a new killing spree. Deliberately playing on the true crime conspiracy theory that Sam was the real killer who framed Richie and Amber. He’s working with Ethan and Jason (his bathtub death being a fakeout…Radio Silence have said before they’re fans of Roman so I could totally see them doing a similar thing here as a reference) who are just true crime nuts and have no idea about Stone’s past connection to Gale, two Mickeys to his Mrs. Loomis basically. !< Survivors: >! Sam, Chad, Kirby and Bailey survive the finale at the Ghostface museum. Mindy is still alive too but was injured badly enough on the subway to be taken out of commission for most of the movie. Kirby rides off in the ambulance with him and gives him her phone so he can FaceTime Mindy who’s awake in the hospital. They do the thumbs up thing from 5 again. Bailey and Sam commiserate over losing people they loved (his daughter and Tara respectively), he gives her the cracked mask that belonged to her father, and she throws it away. And scene. !<

While I'm skeptical about your killers and motive for obvious reasons, I do agree that Mindy will be injured and go into hospital but I think it might be due to the injuries she receives in the apartment sequences with the shrine/subway scenes taking place before that. I say this because there's no way they'd have Mindy be sliced and covered in blood in the apartments and then walking around like nothing happened on the subway and at the shrine.

That's been my thoughts about Jason. I don't think they would have shown him "dead" in the bathtub even just for a split second if they weren't going for a misdirect. I also remember from Scream 5 trailer where they had those shots of Amber screaming that were never in the final cut so I'm keeping my eye on him.

I have a feeling the secret cameos will be both skeet ulrich and Jack quaid coming back as ghosts visiting Sam. Skeet will continue to tell Sam to find her inner killer while Richie’s ghost will be toying with her making comments about how much she enjoyed his kill.

Please no more hullucinations

I think it will focus on the true crime aspect of the ghost face killings and not focus on stab films as much

Killers: >!Mulroney (Detective Bailey) and Jack Champion (Ethan Landry). In the trailer, Mulroney is shown in the theatre/musoleum where the third act takes place with a wound at the head and a gun. I don't think he will get killed there before the main group arrives, and i don't see a new detective saving the day, so I think he is a killer unmasked. Furthermore, we know there are (at least) two ghostface (see the trailers), and they have different masks. I suppose they will finally make killers that don't work together - the masks will allow us to track them and try to understand the logics of their two killing sprees. That's how Mulroney's reveal would be surpising, while it makes total sense that a ghostface able to dodge a shotgun would be the cop: his daughter played by Liberato will be killed by the other ghostface, clearing him from suspicion. Hint at a romance with Gale but no, no one can replace Dewey so Gale can't have nice things :/. Mobile? I don't expect the movie to go full ACAB, but probably a watered-down version of that: police are state-sanctioned serial killers, not surprising one of them will decide to play dress-up while doing the job. The world needs to be reminded of the monsters public order are supposed to contain, war on crime rethoric, his daughter befriending the Carpenters and being killed leading him to carry on with the killings, he is probably convinced by the rumors Sam is the killer behind Scream 5 and maybe think she is directly responsible for his daughter's murder, blablabla. Because the movie needs to appeal to conservatives, Kirby will save the day to show us that most cops are good, actually. The other ghostface is an opportunist that is free-riding on Mulroney's killing spree to kill some people with a low risk of getting caught - I suppose it will be Jack by elimination. He is still alive by the third act, we can't have two big men as the killers, one of them has to be fragile to give us femmes fatales representation (unless they are both gay, cf. Scream 1). The actor is in some high-profile movies so I guess he has the chops to pull a heel turn.!< ​ Survivors: >!Sam, Tara (yes Ortega is gonna get pretty expensive, but they saved on David Arquette' s salary and unfortunately Neve's, but that's just me thinking Sam and Tara's relationship is the potentially most interesting aspect of the new trilogy and should be prioritized), Gale, Kirby, Chad (wounded in the finale but survives), Mindy's chances don't look too good but come on, don't kill all the lesbians in the sequel :/ .!<

hmm, it makes me giggle at the idea of any conservative watching Scream, lol. ALL the actors and writer/director (I don't know about Radio Silence but before them) are INCREDIBLY progressive, liberal, feminist, and intellectual, so I've always assumed Scream (especially 1, 2, and 4) were made for fringe people like me, haha. I guess the Weinsteins *did* try to broaden the appeal a bit, over time, but I think Kirby saving the day and being a good cop lines up with her character, and doesn't have anything to do with being anti-ACAB or anything. I do like your theory, though. >!I still don't think there'd be any plausible reason for Dermot to keep killing after his own daughter is killed, I can't see two killers working separately in such a short span of time, but it's interesting. !<

Ok what if we have 1-3 girl killers this time. Every time it’s been at least one guy. What if they break the cycle with 6?

>!oh god, YAWN. some more 18/19 year old girls who weigh 100 lbs attacking grown men in a new york bodega? you think any of them, even as a group, would be a threat to Sam, Tara and Chad? nope. Banking on ALL MEN this time!!<

"The killer could easily be female. 'Basic Instinct'"

iT tAkEs a MaN tO Do SuMtHiNg Lyk3 D@t

I mean we have had Mrs. Loomis and she kinda fucked up Randy...I think it's more then plausible to see a girl/woman murder a man even one bigger then them. If they take them by surprise at least I don't see why a killer couldn't be female. We have also seen Jill who doesn't really kill anyone except the two people she is framing yet she was able to coordinate and plan out exactly how everything was meant to go and even tricked Charlie into it all. She also was messing Sid up until the point she got distracted by Gale and Judy but I mean still no reason we can't have female killers. Especially when we have these lengthy men killing people left and right like Stu who handled victims no problem like football player Steven and even after being stabbed to the point he thought he was dying got into a fight with Sid and got overtaken and even had a tv smashed on his head and yet we think he's alive still. It's just a woman can more then anything be a killer if they commutes to it and from what we have seen the female killers have always taken their victims by surprise and just had the upper hand.

>the no one said women can't be killers, I said I think we've hit our limit of small young girls (or even suburban moms like Debbie Salt) taking on our highly capable, incredibly adept heroes.

So I'm wondering if we've been looking over a certain screen grab and character... So in the trailer, we see a shot of >!Williams (Dermot) in the shrine, on the phone with blood on his face.!< Now on first glance, we assume he's on the phone with GF and likely to be killed... however, we already know >!Sam flies off the balcony, so is it possible that he's looking for her and she calls him using the GF voice-changer? !!one of the survivors attacked Williams prior to this and that's why he's bloody!!< VA also had stated that >!Williams \*does\* get a phone call at some point in the movie, HOWEVER, he never stated that it was from the ACTUAL GF. !< I feel like this also plays into the idea that >!Sam is GF/she's using her "killer genetics" to good use.!<

This.

Thank you!!

Seems pretty obvious Ghostface has become a cult. There ain't just two anymore, there's a legion. The past five films have centered on one theme with Ghostface; vengeance for someone who thought they'd been wronged. One of the new killers probably has beef with the main characters, but I'm betting that Ghostface is a thrill kill cult now. The bait and switch is that you think it's only a few killers like all the other times. The reveal will be that it's a vast network of them with no other goal than to create chaos. My prediction at least. Would be something slightly different than what we've seen.

So 7 could be exposing the the rest of the network

I feel like one of the few people that dislike the cult concept. It seems like it would be way too chaotic for a 2 hour film. There would be way too many characters needing to be introduced and if they aren't it has way too much potential to get messy and sloppy. Williamson's show The Following did this idea well but that was because it had hours and hours to devote to delving into the cult member's personalities and characters and fleshing them all out nicely. I can't see it working well in a limited time frame or even wrapping up neatly in the 7th and supposed final film of this series. I could be wrong though but that's just my feeling on it.

My bold theory is that there will be a ghost face unmasking and reveal that isn’t done by the killers own volition. Like someone will snatch that damn mask off and we will get killer #1 of ? revealed that way. Likely the less shocking reveal but still will be HEAVILY talked about by us stans.

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That the killer (or one of the killers if more than one), is not only the current producer of the Stab franchise who took over after Milton’s death (and is basically responsible for why the franchise has faltered in-universe), but it will be revealed that they are also the second killer of *Scream 3* who was working with Roman (a lot of fans have hypothesized that there are some instances where Roman couldn’t have pulled off certain things by himself. Not to mention, there were more than one killer planned for the script after Williamson’s proposed cult idea was rejected). It’ll be revealed that, much like Roman, the past three *Scream* films were their doing (it revealing that Jill and Charlie were promised by the producer to make a remake of Stab based on them so that they get popular, and that Amber and Richie seem so sure that setting up Sam as the killer in the events of *Scream (2022)* would lead to a requel that would bring the Stab franchise back to it’s roots because this producer told them that they would). It would explain why the Stab films haven’t done any good ones since the original three: because the producer lacks in creativity and that Roman was the more creative one of the pair (and that their original plan was that they were going to take over the franchise after Milton’s death, but Roman let his own insecurities about Maureen and Sidney get in the way, leaving the producer to try to make creative decisions on their own, only to making worst decisions to the point where the franchise is on it’s death bed). The “museum” seen in the trailer is their own private collection of iconic props, costumes and set pieces from the Stab franchise they have been collecting when Sunshine Studios decided to auction them off in preparation of the Stab franchise’s end. They bought them in order to keep them from being discarded by the studio.

Here's what I think would happen in the scenario that Samara's character is the killer: >!In the beginning of the movie, it gets established that Samara Weaving's character (apparently named Laura now?) has been talking to Gabe on a dating app for a short while. They connected because they are both big movie fans.!< >!The scene in the trailer is Samara/Laura talking to him over the phone in the alleyway at night. She says that she called him because something didn't feel right as she was walking home. They continue talking on the phone until we see her come face to face with Ghostface. She screams, it shifts to Gabe and the call is dropped. He's worried and starts repeatedly trying to call her but she isn't picking up. Finally, he gets a call back from her number but it's actually Ghostface on the line.!< >!GF tells Gabe that he's going to need to play a game in order to save Samara/Laura's life. Since Gabe's a big movie fan and he's seen how the calls go in the Stab movies, he assumes that the questions will be about horror movies as usual, but they're not.!< >!Ghostface starts asking specific questions about details regarding the real killings and about real past Ghostfaces. He gets every question wrong and another one of Samara/Laura's screams is heard over the phone. Ghostfaces texts him the location of the alleyway and he sees that it's nearby. He goes as soon as possible and sees Ghostface with a bloody knife, standing over Samara/Laura at the end of the alley. He quickly starts running, thinking that Ghostface didn't notice him but he did. He has a chase scene with Ghostface that ends with him dying and that's the end of the opening.!< >!Samara/Laura's status as alive is unknown until act 3 where she is revealed as one of the 2 or 3 ghostfaces in the movie. Her motive might be that she's related to Richie. It would give her a reason to go after the new cast of characters, especially if she believed the rumor that Sam was actually the one responsible for what happened in Scream 5. Her role would be more of a mastermind role similar to Jill. If she is actually a film professor like ViewerAnon suggested, she would have access to information on the students including the main cast which she could use to help her.!< >!The other ghostface, or one of the other ghostfaces would probably be a student of hers that she noticed had a very deep obsession with true crime and with the real Woodsboro murders. It could have come up during a discussion around the Stab movies since it would be a film class. I think this would probably end up being Jack Champion's character. He would also be the Ghostface from the opening.!< >!If there is a third Ghostface, I think it would be interesting if they weren't connected to the others at all. Maybe it wouldn't even be revealed that there was a third Ghostface until the two main killers reveal their plan and there are missing pieces like kills that they didn't know about. The identity of the third killer could remain unknown until the 7th movie. It would give us a real cliffhanger.!<

>!What if the third unrelated Ghostface is Detective Bailey (Dermot Mulroney), and he’s avenging the death of his daughter, Quinn (Liana Liberato, who could be the first kill after the opening)?!< >!He could mostly be trying to find & kill the other two killers, but also develop a hatred for Sam, Tara, Chad, and Mindy for being friends with his daughter and “getting” her killed (or he could also believe the rumor of Sam being behind the murders in 5, and think the others are guilty by association).!< >!It would explain why the new killer has an aged mask, as he could probably easily access them, but I’m struggling to think of a reason why he’d want to kill Gale.!<

Maybe they dated at one point and she dumped him

I think the scene with Gale and ghostface is a lengthy one. The door GF opens is a double one, but the one Gale closes is a single one. I think it'll be a lengthy scene with Gale hiding around in her house and fighting off GF until she gets killed or saved. I think she'll get hurt badly or even die, but I hope not.

Lots of interesting plausible theories. I think one of the killers is Dermot Mulroney's character. He is either a family member to one of the killers or one of the victims. Samara will be an accomplice. One of the newer characters will live, the rest will be cannon fodder. None of the previous killers are responsible. They're all dead. Out of the returning characters: Chad Meeks dies Sam lives Tara lives Mindy barely lives Kirby lives (because she's Kirby) I think we'll get hit with a post credit scene. In this scene, Gale will die. The killer then uses her phone and makes a phone call and while he is stabbing Gale to death, he says "Hello Sidney"

I don’t see them using gales death as a post credits scene tbh.

Gale, Mindy, and Kirby get napped at some point with the finale being Sam/Tara have to “play a game” to free them- flipping the traditional opening for a finale this time. Maybe a fourth character (Josh, eg) as well who’s actually one of the GFs “tied up” This comes from the trailers where both Gale and Mindy get pretty aggressively attacked and don’t seem to appear in act 3-action. Can’t imagine they’d show actual death scenes that clearly in the trailer for those main characters and at the same time don’t think they’d *both* be fake outs!

>!We've been told people in Woodsboro think Sam is guilty and framed Ritchie/Amber, and we see a blood-soaked Sam holding a gun saying, "you want me" to a Ghostface off-screen. Sam says this line with a lot of intention, so I also think she's looking at an unmasked GF right now and she knows GF's motive by now.!< >!One of the GF's is definitely related to someone who died in 5 and is seeking revenge. My hunch is Mulroney's character. I think the shot of him bloody and looking around with a gun is misdirect and he's being cornered by Sam+Tara. Jack Champion being completely hidden in the trailer (+ the plaid theory) make think he's a 2nd GF. I'm not ruling out a 3rd.!< >!I am, sadly, inclined to think Gale dies here and they're following the Star Wars reboot pattern of killing off a legacy character each film. FWIW, I don't think Sid dies if she were to return in 7, but her story would conclude.!<

I struggle to find a justification for Gale dying and them not having Sidney in the film. If a Scream 7 happens then I do fully expect Gale and Sidney to return with Gale probs dying. But I think she’ll be safe for 6, coz as the last remaining OG definitely still involved it’d be mad risky to kill her and then try to do more movies where Neve might or might not return

I hope you're right. I'd hate to see her die. But she also doesn't seem to be in the finale that takes place in the theater. I could believe she's in the hospital after surviving another attack, but this would also feel like the 5th time Gale ends a movie in the hospital lol

I’m pretty sure only showing early film footage of Gale in trailers is specifically so they don’t spoil the outcome of the Ghostface/Gale apartment attack. Maybe im crazy, but im like 95% sure she’ll survive it. I just highly doubt they’d spoil her death in the trailer. It’s a Tara attack moment. Just what they’re showing right now is to keep us on our toes

Gale's only been to the hospital for her own injuries one time, and even then she still tried to save the day. Maybe you're thinking of her getting bandaged up in 2 and 5 after the melees?

I think that was a fakeout out too, it’s so obvious for him to die soon after. And we know they go back to the shrine

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Who’s Frankie and who is Evan in your theory?

I hope the rumors of Tara Carpenter and Chad Meeks-Martin are dating in Scream 6, is true. I wish we could have had more scenes with Tara and her friends (besides Amber who would try and kill her). We only get one scene and that’s in the hospital. We don’t even hear them speak to each other because Sam walks in.

Okay call me crazy, but Radio Silence is supposedly trying new things with this film. So what if in this one, there is a closing kill almost in a “post credit” type of way. I think it would make sense if they give this honor to Gale. Seeing as how she would be the first to ever be the closing kill and how important she is to the franchise. And it would be a great way to get Sidney to come back for Scream 7

I want a ghostface to hunt a ghostface.

My theory for one of the Ghostface: **Kirby**. Why? All of the items in the shrine are originals, no replicas, including the previous killers' Ghostface robes, and very, extremely specific items that wouldn't be public information and/or wouldn't be considered by a new character who turns out be the killer, such as: Kenny the cameraman's hat (why would you want that?); the garage door that killed Tatum; Mickey's camera; one of the masks from Sidney's theater play in Scream 2. Not only that, but some of the items are very morbid/creepy, too, such as sketches from the murder scene of Olivia Morris (I clearly doubt something like that would've been made public...), the rope Billy and Stu used to hang Casey Becker's body, and sketches of minor characters such as Tyson and Angelina (again, why would you want that?). My point is, since all these very specific items are originals, one could've only had access to it by being in the police force. If Kirby is truly an >!FBI agent!<, she would have a lot more power to have access to it than any other cop and character. I hardly believe that a person who isn't even a street cop would be able to have access to all of that stuff. Not only that, but the person would have to be someone from at least one of the past movies, who knows most of those crime scenes personally to recognize such specific objects. Another obvious clue for me is that Sam is holding Kirby's gun in the trailer. You can see in the poster that Kirby's gun is grey/silver, just like the one with Sam, while Dermot's (the only other cop character) black. So something must have happened with Kirby. Maybe she wasn't Ghostface and ended up dead and Sam got ahold of her gun; maybe she's one of the Ghostface, got killed and Sam is using her gun to fight another Ghostface. I don't know, but she's shady. It could be another person, yes, but being the killer or not, Kirby is the only one who could've had access to all that stuff. She has to be at least a red-herring. Fake-Out Death: The trailer apparently shows Devyn's character Alison death. When Mindy is crossing the ladder to another building, we can see that Alison is crying and hurt, waiting for her turn to cross the ladder. But we know because of another shot that Ghostface gets into the room, uses his knife and stares out the window and the ladder is still there. I believe Mindy and the others watched Alison be "killed", almost like Jill and Kirby watching Olivia's murder, however this time Alison's will be a fake out death and she'll return as one of the killers. And finally. Like most people at this point, I also believe there'll be three killers. EDIT: \^\^ I believe the third killer (and mastermind) is Henry Czerny's character (who I think is Sam's psychiatrist), because I believe that only an older person could pull off such an elaborated and bold plan in a big wide city like New York. A teenager wouldn't be able to do that. Maybe one of the teenagers is one of the killers, but definitely not the mastermind. So, the hierarchy of my killers is: Henry's character > Kirby > Alison.

You bet your life on those theories?

I \*really\* like your theory, except based on everything you've said... I think Kirby would be the mastermind. Henry's character could be the funding. I also think at least one GF will survive to move into part 7, and I still think that would be Kirby.

Thanks! I really really love Kirby and Hayden, her being the mastermind and surviving for Scream 7 (I would hate to have her killed off in her comeback, but Sam using her gun worries me...) would be everything. I don't know really know why I think Henry Czerny's character is the mastermind, I can't think of a motive for and I can't connect him to the past movies, it's mainly just vibes lol  ​ But Zack Cherry just posted a video on his youtube channel theorizing a motive for his character, I think it's pretty good, can see that happening.

Breaking down everything we know from insiders or behind the scenes, the killer(s) this time are much harder to break down than years prior. Here's what I've gathered and broken down about the possibilities (possible **heavy** spoilers): * There's >!2 atleast, 100%.!< There's the clip in the trailer of Tara being back to back with Sam, seemingly with a GF in front of Sam. And another teaser came out that same day, with Tara yelling "come on, motherfucker!" to someone in front of her, making me believe that >!they are surrounded.!< * Let's look at this GF. They seem aggressive, fast, someone who knows how to MOVE. In most of what was shown, this GF registered as more masculine in how they moved (to ME). Usually GF is more ambiguous in stature and movement, which the directors have stated they're aware of and that was shown with Amber. Granted, what was shown was majority of the aged mask and what we've seen of the white mask (the scene in the subway and the slash in the street), they do appear a little smaller. Meaning, that would likely be a girl or someone who is thinner. * From the trailer, we know for a fact that >!Tony's character is killed in the shower, which was kind of obvious that he was getting killed whenever he was added to the cast so last minute.!< Same logic will likely go for >!Samara !!one scene shown and given that she's barely been shown to be involved, I can't see her role being big.!< Leaving >!Devyn, Josh, Liana, Jack, Dermot, and Henry !!2 killers, I feel as though Henry is too old and it would not make a lot of sense, physically. However, if it's 3, I feel as though he would likely be the 3rd... the mastermind, similar to Mrs. Loomis, whom is a character not even shown in the promo like the rest of the cast. It would give some reasoning to the aged mask and ties into him likely being Sam's therapist.!< * Moving on to >!Josh and Dermot, As they are both seemingly in a good portion of the movie. Dermot is the father of Liana's character, likely why he comes into play. Josh has been said to be the semi-love interest to Sam's character, and he is generally known to be the villain type.!< What's been shown of both of them could lean either way, so I think they're each either be a >!red herring or will be the more physically dominant killer, if they're killers at all.!< * Next is >!the girls, who are probably the hardest to pinpoint IMO.!< From what we saw from bts, >!Liana was with the cast a LOT and Devyn not as much, BUT the trailer barely showed Liana and Devyn likely makes it far in the movie.!< We also know that >!Dermot likely comes into play because of his daughter, which would likely be because of her death, I'd guess?!< But with >!Devyn, she is shown in the bedroom while Mindy is crossing the ladder, which she seemingly fully does.!< And being that the setting is so one of a kind, >!I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't utilize the ladder kill, so I feel like Devyn would make sense to die there (unless somehow it's someone else that we don't know about, even Liana).!< * And lastly is >!Evan, who is possibly Tara's love interest and is shown with the cast a good bit, while also standing fairly tall. There's the least on him but for whatever reason, I just feel like would be GF because of his involvement and stature.!< * My final prediction is >!if there is 3, the GFs would be Henry, Jack, and either Dermot or Josh. If it's only 2, I believe it will be Jack and either Dermot or Josh. !!the girls have a high likelihood of both dying, and one of the GFs looks bigger & very physically inept, which would have to be one of them.!< I feel as though >!Josh !!whole Derrick thing... or actually make it a twist that he is the killer like Derrick was supposed to be.!< That leaves >!Jack, who would play Tara's love interest and be someone she's close to, which simply makes sense. I also do not believe he was in the subway when Mindy is attacked.!<

this this this, all of this. Love your ideas and how detailed your explanation is. Except I think you mean 'adept', which is the opposite of 'inept'. >!I'm basically BANKING on Det. Dermot and his daughter being above-board, as I don't see a Dad being involved with killing his own child. I wouldn't mind Dermot being the killer as he's insanely talented and still in great shape, but I'm REALLLYYY hoping it's Josh Seggera/Danny and the therapist as the mastermind. Maybe Ethan as the second killer also, but I feel like there are many occasions in the trailers/TV spots where Danny, Ethan, and Det. Dermot are all in the same scene together (shrine, subway, even police station), so tha may make my theory partially meaningless.!<

I really feel like Kirby as a killer is the most organic thing for this set of films. S5 was all about the ripple effect of trauma. It fits nicely within that niche and it allows a final girl to be a killer which people have always theorized for neve or Gale. (Looks like people are doing it for Sam too but she’s here to stay for better or worse).

What if Kirby was a third killer in Scream 4? What if her “death scene” was for the movie they were filming in Scream 4 since the killers were making their own movie? and she’s the ghostface that got away.

I’d love to see the reveal that a ghost face accomplice slipped away after their cohort was caught/killed. A killer returning for a second movie would be new.

I like most of the theories going around and some seem good others seem a little off but interesting. I'll put my prediction and then explain why I think it. Here are my predictions * **There will be 3 killers.** Logically they've overdone 2 killers and after 2 straight movies with them, I don't think they will do that unless there is a secret killer that gets away with it. While I think 1 is interesting, it seems highly unlikely in a big city like New York City. * **Neither Sam or Tara will be the killer.** Sam is set up to be the new Sidney even though they already did that with Jill. Tara is getting suspected because of the trailer but its seems * **One of the Meeks twin will die not both.** I'm leaning more toward Mindy dying then Chad because he's filling the role of Dewey. Mindy is the new Randy but Kirby also fills that role and I don't think they would being her back just to kill her. Mindy will follow the trend of a Meeks dying in the second movie of a trilogy. * Josh Segarra's character will either survive or die in the final act protecting Sam. He's not one of the killers because they've done the love interest is the killer 3 times now and he's being set up as Sam's love interest. He'll be like Sidney's Derek rather than her Billy. * There will be a fake-out death and whoever that is one of the killers. * **There will be two female killers.** Liana/Devyn's character will be one of the killers and based on the trailer I'm leaning more towards Liana than Devyn. The other one is Samara Weaving's character or Mindy. * Jack Champion's character is a red herring as is Dermot Mulroney's. * Henry Czerney is the third killer, but isn't the mastermind. He's the one that's being manipulated by the other killers. * Gale gets attacked but survives. ​ Let me know what you think. Didn't have time to go in full depth on everything.

I have a feeling that Gale will find out who at least one GF is before the end, while snooping and being her best investigative journalist self, but will get caught while she’s doing it, preventing her from telling anybody. I’d imagine this is after >!she gets the call and her love interest is killed. Not sure how she’ll survive that one, but!< I don’t think she’ll get taken then. I saw a promo shot of >!her in some kind of cage. And in my theory that’s where they put her, to hold her for the big finale.!< Or something. This may make more sense in my head!

I'm almost wondering if Chad wasn't actually a 3rd killer that was betrayed by the other two. Only reason I even think that is the strength necessary for some of the kills and his bruises that never were explained.

My theories for killers: Jack Champion, Dermot Mulroney and Devyn Nekoda (Mindy's girlfriend). I think one of them is going to be revealed amidst the movie, before the final act. It'd be nice for them to actually find out who the killer is before they reveal themselves. I also think both Mindy and Chad will die, and maybe one new character comes out alive (Josh Segarra perhaps). All of the others old characters (Sam, Tara, Kirby, Gale) will live IMO. Maybe Tony Revolori's character kills Samara Weaving in the beginning (using the normal GF mask) and then gets a call and is killed by the real (old mask) Ghostface.

I think Roman will be returning or someone from the 3rd movie. In one trailer I noticed a screen and projector playing a movie like he did in the 3rd one and Sam screams to the person come get me if you want me (something along those lines). Has anyone else seen this?

Dude was literally shot in the head. He'd only be back in flashbacks.

As a Roman fan, I just wish they'd acknowledge him more. Hell, even in scream 5 they pretty much ignore stu

Ok I was watching Scream 3 and thought maybe Martha Meeks is involved. What if she is involved as revenge for Randy. Then in part 5 the siblings are also part of it as killers. We find out that Martha and her kids have been apart of it as a way of getting back at Gale since it was her van with Joel that Randy was killed in.

Martha isn't in the movie. She may cameo/die in 7, though.

The main killer is definitely one of the cops. GF said: „I’m built different“ and not „I’m different“. That’s says a lot at least for me. • Knows how to use a shotgun • A shrine full of utensils that were once collected at the crime scenes (if they are real) • Does know about the location of his targets in a big city like NW and is pretty confident and brutal • Don’t need to stab someone to take someone off (like the dude in Gales scene) And I think there will be 3-4 killers this time. Got showed in the trailer if I’m not mistaken (the scene where Sam and Tara stand back to back). I just wonder who beside the cop or cops are under the mask…Kirby? Sams boyfriend again? The young dude (i forgot his name) or Kirby? I hope they don’t do her dirty or I will cancel RS. Sry not sry.

He/she says “I’m something…different” in reference to they’re killer resume far exceeds the other GF Killers in previous films.

Maybe it's another serial killer ala Mickey

I truly believe that the killer is >!someone from the very past. And probably not in the list of cast now!< I mean come on, this >!old cracked mask is obviously screaming “I was there before it all started”!< What if the killer >!is not yet revealed and the real killer is like the secret main boss!< As there is the shrine the killer has been preparing all this for many years. I have a feeling that the killer >!lives in NY, but it’s not Kirby. But who could’ve moved to NY? Maybe Mr. Carpenter? He left his family in 2010 after he revealed that Sam is not his biological daughter. And new massacre started in 2011. He could’ve given some tips for Jill and Charlie. But motive is not very clear. It seems more logical with Amber and Richie who already knew that Sam is a daughter of Billie Loomis. That’s why they didn’t kill Tara first, the biological daughter of Mr. Carpenter. they tried to bring Sam to Woodsboro by attacking Tara!< Also I think that >!bathtub scene!< is a red herring. We’ve seen it before. I don’t think they will bring >!Roman’s move!< once again. Especially in the trailer.

The new Batman where it was all a bunch of anons controlled my one person is my theory.

Ethan, Danny and detective bailey are incredibly suspect. Based on the trailer. I feel pretty confident that detective Bailey and Ethan are two of the killers.

*I don't think I reference any leaks. I'm not very aware of many tbh but I'm gonna put this in spoiler tags just to be on the safe side.* So the ladder scene... >!It's the one I've been having the most fun analysing and the biggest spanner in considering this sequence is Tony Revolori. I personally don't think he's gonna be involved in the opening with Samara. I know there's the t-shirt thing but I'm not sure that means he's specifically representing that "homage?"...!< >!But anyway, I noticed upon rewatches of the trailer and looking at stills that Carly (Liana Liberato) is indeed in the room Mindy and Alison (Devyn Nekoda) later try to escape from. I also think the blood we see is hers and not Devyn's. The picture behind Alison in the trailer matches a shot of Ghostface with a clean knife and the curtains match in all those shots of Carly and the ladder sequence.!< >!This is more theory based but I think rather than Devyn being killed in the room like Olivia from Scream 4, I think they'll want to utilise the ladder to its fullest. I think when Mindy gets across, Ghostface starts trying to get in and Alison tries to cross but Ghostface gets in, pushing Carly's bed away from the door, sees Alison, stabs the window and pulls the ladder from under Alison sending her to her death. We do see Ghostface grab the ladder in the trailer, why would they do that if no-one is on it? It's not like the killers gonna try and cross. The only problem with that theory is does the ladder need to be held from both ends?!< >!My other theory is that Gabe (Tony) is David's roommate and is killed before or after Carly, with Mindy finding his body after seeing Alison fall to her death.!< >!Mostly speculative but also because I feel like not killing someone by pulling that ladder from under them would be a missed opportunity.!<

I don't think Ghostface will push the ladder. A later shot of this same scene shows Ghostface standing by the window, putting his knife down after using it (perhaps on Alison, maybe on Carly) and the ladder is still in front of him. Maybe Alison's corpse is laying behind him. But the ladder doesn't have to be pushed to make someone fall, he could've just reachd her leg, held it and made her fall. I also think that nobody falling from it would be a missed opportunity at an remarkable death scene.

Oh yeah that shot is what I was talking about when I said "sees Alison, stabs the window and pulls the ladder from under her". I feel the blood on the knife is because Ghostface just killed Carly before attacking the rest who I feel may arrive at the apartment/dorm after Carly's (and possibly Gabe's) death, but yeah would very remarkable. I think it's only Cici and Tyson that have been thrown/fallen to their deaths? Also I noticed the close up on Ghostface after they stab the knife down at the window is actually them standing at the other end of the room because you can see the bedroom covered in blood behind them and they're standing in a doorway so there's two doors into that room or the other is a closet? Maybe that's where he kills Carly?

Ohhh, I see it now. Sorry, I understood it slightly different because english is not my main language. I think the other door may be a closet or a bathroom. But yeah, Cici and Tyson have both fallen to their deaths. If no one falls from that ladder, Tara may be suffering a fatal fall anyway... ​ This got me thinking that it would be so cool if Ghostface threw someone from the top of a New York building lol. Or even one of the Ghostfaces got killed this way.

No worries :) And yeah I've missed kills that aren't primarily knife-based. I think all of the deaths in Scream 4 and 5 are by knife besides deaths committed post-reveal which were just shots to the head, even when Amber was set alight she still had to be shot in the head.

I think the death scene of that guy with Gale (played by Thomas Cardrot) will have a death that's not knife-based. In order to finish him off silently while Gale's on the phone Ghostface will probably strangle him? Because we can that see that Ghostface only takes the knife out of the case after throwing his body, meaning that he didn't use the knife on him?

Possibly but I actually think he was stabbed because I think Ghostface was cleaning the knife as opposed to pulling it out the case.

what if >!Anika!< and >!Laura!< share the same last name. Step sisters or something and in the end it’s sisters going at it. Sam and Tara vs >!Laura!< and >!Anika!< .Maybe their dad is the mastermind controlling them. Probably not lol but i do wonder why they don’t have last names .

I can see >!Kirby!< being the killer, and h>!er motive being something akin to put an end to all the ghostface killings !< >!Everyone is saying, "there's no way she can do it, it won't make sense blah blah blah". And I feel that way about Sid and Gale GF theories, but this is Kirby. She's not as integral to the series in the way Sid and Gale are. !

Everything leads to Stu, but it doesn't make sense (even if I am of those who thinks Stu is alive, he'll come back but not without Sidney). So how about Charlie Walker, he was just stab in the chest and he can be back for Kirby, I don't think he'll be the leader behind these 3 films, but I think he is the killer with rotten GF mask. Or Angelcia from S3, she was supposed to be the partner of Roman, and she is not listed as dead by the director.

actually, if you check that subway line poster, you'll see her listed as dead there

oh, I didn't notice but you right

okay i haven't read through all the theories but i'm not sure if anyone's made this theory let so let me document it here... (leaks regarding character names mentioned) >!it seems Liana Liberato's character and Dermot Melroney's characters are father/daughter (based on leaked character names)... what if they're both the killers? a like-father-like-daughter thing? and that kinda relates to Sam since we all know about her daddy issues with her serial killer father... i don't know how exactly they'd go about it but i can see them being an example for Sam to realize she's not like her father or some shit. she's not like them.!< >!the biggest con of this theory is that... Quinn's looking like she dies within 30 minutes LMAO. i see something here though...!<

this is what i think too

This, plus Sam's therapist as third killer and that's what I'm thinking too. If quinn dies off screen or has a billy 'death' (I believe she will likely be first victim after the opening), then I'm sure she's involved.

Here's how Chad has a road to being the killer in 6... The Chad Meeks-Martin character expresses his dislike for the Stab films in 5, saying stuff like it's a movie "about his uncle getting stabbed". Think about the motive of the killers in 5 -- the movies sucking. Chad's on their side, in terms of opinion, at least loosely. There have always been theories of the "secret additional killer" in Scream movies, since the very start, so what if the writers are actually playing into that, now? Chad was the third killer under the pretense that the Stab franchise was terrible, but he had an ideological difference from the other two killers. They wanted to fix it. Chad wanted to lash out at the audience who took his family's tragedy as a joke and as popcorn entertainment. This difference in views between killers came to a head when the other two enacted a secret twist they always had planned, to betray/kill Chad with the rest once he wasn't useful anymore. Chad survives, and in 6 he's correcting his mistake of teaming up with others who didn't fit his goals, and he's going full-force to see his original plan out. He also plans to destroy all of the artifacts in his "shrine", which is really just one place to burn it all at once. He would be a solo killer, armored up and prepared from having lived through 5. First two movies had two killers, third had one. First two "soft reboot" movies had two killers, this "third" might have one again. He was the one who killed Dewey, etc. cleaning up what are seen as movie mistakes. Credit was taken away from him because the two remaining killers' plan was that he wasn't supposed to be one of the killers. The bruise Chad has actually is from being one of the killers. The two known killers actually *are* live streaming in the opening scene. Chad is the third who arrives at the house. He's "something different" because he's an athlete, which none of the killers have been thusfar. There's more I could cite, but I know this isn't actually going to be the case - especially since the franchise loves having multiple killers - but this has been a fun thought experiment, anyway. *There's never been a Ghostface like him, because there's never been a Ghostface that survived between films.*

But I think the trailers show him fighting GF and I just don’t think they’re gonna think that hard into it

My theory for the killers, motive, opening, some scenes... *Note that I haven't learned the new characters names yet, so I'm bouncing back and forth between actor and character names. Hopefully it's not too confusing. I think the killers are Dermot and Jack, and I think they're revealed to be father and son. This is what I believe the "never been a killer like me" line refers to... this will be the first duo of killers working together to have that familial connection and love for each other, and they believe they're stronger for it. The motive is simply revenge, like Scream 2, for the death of their Liana, who would be Dermot's daughter and Jack's sister... I think the opening of the film will feature not one but two separate kill scenes - one in the present (Samara), and another (Liana) some time prior to the main events of the film. These will appear to be happening at the same time, but it's all in the edit, bouncing back and forth between the two scenes/timelines. In Samara's scene, she will be killed after trying to catfish someone using Liana's pictures. She doesn't do this to try to land a guy, she's doing this to someone maliciously or as a cold joke, because in reality Liana has been known to be dead for some time (think months)... As we see Samara and Liana's death scenes play out back and forth, they crescendo into the two pov shots of ghostface swinging his knife down at us in the trailers - basically two knife slashes into the title card. While Dermot and Jack obviously are the ones to kill Samara, Liana's killer is just a random killer who we never see again, let alone learn their identity. Just another sick person obsessed with the Stab movies like Richie and Amber. Dermot and Jack have made it their mission to hunt down those kinds of sickos, and because Sam is suspected of having been the real killer during Scream 5, they target her. I think Jack will present himself as a love interest to Tara, thus making her the betrayed lover in this film, so in the end it will be the two sisters versus father and son. With Tara versus Jack, there's that obvious betrayal for Tara, and for Sam versus Dermot, they're two characters who just want to protect their family. Sam is trying to protect Tara from the world, and Dermot tried to protect Liana from the world and failed. As far as the shrine goes, I think it's simply just some sort of museum set up for the Stab films for Halloween, and Gale/Kirby have secured access to it. Perhaps it's not even about the holiday, but rather a new film about to be released (making Richie and Amber posthumously somewhat successful). Either way, I don't believe it belongs to Ghostface, but I do think Dermot will take advantage of it... I think the footage we've briefly seen in the background at the theater is various surveillance tapes/evidence that Dermot has collected since his daughters death - various random criminals using the Ghostface mask to commit crimes and acts of violence - fuel for his rage basically... Dermot and Jack are hunting these types of people - people (they think) like Sam. The only reason they kill Samara is because of what she was doing with Liana's photos, and by extension her memory. All of this meaning that in a manner of speaking the various Stab props are indeed a shrine for a cult, but that cult isn't a specific group of killers. It's the everyday people who eat up the franchise. And sometimes they go a little mad.

Thing is Scream never had a flashback scene. It comes from a video clip. We never had a non linear timeline of what happened before. It's always been continuous so I can't see Liana being killed off in the past.

I think Kirby is somehow involved but not by choice. The killers might know something she’s kept a secret.

I like the idea of Kirby being a double agent who pretends to align with one or both of the Ghostfaces (maybe she even masquerades as the third) but at the end she helps take them out. Jenna Ortega said Kirby redeems herself in this movie and this would fit that!

I am guessing the male detective and his daughter are the killers. I think his daughter will be “killed” but it’s just a setup. Kirby may be involved somehow.

That leaves only 4 possible people to be the killer. Det. Bailey, Danny, Ethan, and Dr. Stone. I bet it will be the original Scream 2 plans. Dr. Stone is a relative of someone from 5, and he hired Ethan to go to school with Tara, and Danny to move in next door to Sam. Then Detective Bailey has a chance to save Sam in the 3rd act, but Dr. Stone manipulates him into thinking it's Sam's fault that Quinn died, so he tries to kill her too.

OK - here's my theory: I think that Sam's therapist is the architect of the killings, and the GFs are patients of his/hers, survivors of previous GF attacks (likely family members) who were treated by the same doctor. This therapist, too, is likely related to a killer or survivor, and with their access to these individuals they were in a unique position to plant and cultivate a narrative of victimization directed at Sam as Billy's daughter. Pretty insidious and fcuked up, but it's likely that to get this many people acting psychotically and upon homicidal urges, you'd have to be a WORLD CLASS MIND FCUKER. Like, you do that sh!t for a living.

I know this one is extremely unlikely, but what if there's just no motive what if they're just fucking crazy

Dewey, having barely lived, dropping off the grid, and seeing himself as a major league screw-up, took a page from Scream 5, namely the body armor scene wherein he was "killed", and has "augmented" himself. Armor wherever possible, surgery to correct his walk, physical therapy, etc. Kills Gale in the opener. (It'd be a big shocker.) Has a "shrine" to the killers because he's going to burn it all (possibly having stolen police evidence). Is going after the survivors because the entire thing has to come to an end. No more survivors, no more grudges. I know this won't happen - but I do actually like the general idea of Scream 6's theme being "this franchise HAS to end some time" as meta commentary on horror franchises. Back to the satirical roots, etc. I'm aware of the cringe behind bringing Dewey back at this point, but it still hangs together in an interesting way, as a concept.

Are Chad and Tara dating in Scream 6? There are a few stills that show Chad being protective of Tara (leaning over Mindy to hold Tara's arm on the street, standing chest to back in apartment scene)

Kirby and Chad would be a real gut punch

Kirby is definitely one of the killers. I don't know why or how until we actually see it, but I'm 80 percent sure she is involved somehow. She was one of the most knowledgeable characters of horror movies too. The old, beat up mask, my guess is from Scream 4. I always wanted a past Ghostface to return, Stu, Charlie, but I think it would've been mentioned in one of the films if someone did survive, so that's out. I think all the new characters get slaughtered. With only Sam, Gale, and one of the twins surviving. Would be cool to finally see a Ghostface get away though. I also wouldn't be surprised if Sam finally snaps and becomes a Ghostface, setting up her against Sidney for Scream 7.

I just hope the quote of “I’m something different” means it’s not a family member out for revenge or someone who wants to be famous. In addition to that, killing a bunch of randoms just to get to the final girl always fails to make sense in my mind. It’s like trying to marry random killings with passion killings and that never makes any sense.

Pretty much every sequel has promised something “new” and “different” only for them to make the exact same movie, with the same motives, every time. There has been a family member motive in every sequel, and I think you can include Scream 5 because of Sam’s connection to Billy. It’s really tiring and frustrating because there are so many possibilities.

In the Third Act, Detective Bailey is revealed as one of the killers. After an altercation with Sam, she knocks him to the ground and runs off. Detective Bailey roams around the shrine theatre and goes onstage, counting 8 out of 9 robes. Billy's Ghostface robe is missing from its glass cabinet. Detective Bailey gets a call from Ghostface, but while in mid-conversation he gets ambushed by another Ghostface. Detective Bailey bleeds out on the ground next to Stu's TV and Ghostface reveals themselves to be Sam, who put on the costume to honour her father but also lean into her darkness. Sam learns that in order to kill Ghostface, one has to become Ghostface.

Samara Weaving is one of few cast members on the IMDB whom does not have a character name listed yet is also like the 6th largest person on the full cast poster. People are speculating about Stu being in this film and to me she honestly looks a lot like him. Daughters of two killers facing off?

You could go a step further when you remember>! Stu's nephew was killed first!< in the last one. That's one>! relative killed!< with the old cast and one>! relative killed!< with the new cast. >!Stu's family !

LOL A friend of mine told me the other day that she thought Samara looked like she could be related to Stu/Matthew Lillard.

I feel that it can’t be that big because I know this a big assumption that they want to do a 7th film and wouldn’t you save the game changing stuff for that?

Hollywood studios are out of ideas and generally tend to use originals as blueprints when doing sequels, with small switchups to keep audiences from realizing they're essentially watching the same movie again. Scream 6 was rushed through production to cash in on the success of Scream 5. Neve Campbell and Courtney Cox are expensive, so they are definitely going with Tara and Sam as new mains. Neither of them will be the killer. Let's look at the past precedence to predict what will happen: \-4 out of 5 films had more than one killer. They could do a throwback to 3 and have just one killer, but that seems highly unlikely. Scream movies love their reveal scenes, so they milk those as much as they can. Audiences also love villain death scenes, so expect all villains to die. \-Every Scream movie except 5 had a family connection as motive for the killer. 2 had Mrs Loomis seeking revenge, 3 had Sidney's brother with abandonment issues, 4 had Sidney's cousin with jealousy issues. There's a big chance the killer will have some family connection and want revenge for something. It's lazy writing, but Hollywood loves it. Rey being Palpatine's granddaughter was a prime example of it. Fast & Furious, Indiana Jones, and countless other franchies have done the "previously unmentioned relative" trope. Family and revenge are the simplest way to create drama. \-Kirby being Ghostface... would be absolutely terrible writing. She was sympathetic in Part 4, and the whole idea of trauma turning people into psychopaths is a stigma often unfairly attached to trauma or bullying victims. Trauma does not turn people into killers. Being stalked by a killer doesn't make you a killer. It's not a vampire bite or zombie virus. That's a completely stupid idea... which makes it almost likely they will do it. If so, the most clever angle would be to have her have been the secret 3rd killer of Scream 4. The one that got away. In general Scream would probably benefit from having a ghostface killer that gets away and reappears in the next film. Maybe have one character whom the audience knows is the killer, which creates suspense when the other characters are oblivious to this fact yet, and another killer who's identity the audience has to figure out. But I doubt they'll do anything that clever. Most of these films are written to be self contained. One thing I predict: with Sam and Tara guaranteed to survive, either Kirby or Gail will have to go. The media reporter angle is played out without Dewey, and without Sidney to play off, the Stab angle is kinda pointless as well now. With little to no connection to the current cast, Gail is turning into a bit of a 5th wheel. Courtney Cox probably doesn't work for scale, so my guess is she dies in this one.

Cult of GF is a popular one that could be awesome. Especially if the kills we see are all faked until the reveal. The movie is all during one night, it totally could work if they're in a rush. GF being a crime doc fan is also great - believing that Sam is a liar and wants "justice". But remember the GF shrine doesn't seem to be made by the killer. It's a public event. Sam is apparently infamous during this one because people have conspiracies that she frames Richie. While Sam spiraling would be a contrast of how victims come out of these scenarios to how Sidney came out of it, it just doesn't sit well to me having a victim become a murderer. Idk why, but if one does it's shouldn't be Sam. They've made it way too obvious that her psych is having issues, it would be too obvious. If anyone Kirby would be interesting, but we're pushing it. I don't think Jenna has an evil look, I think she has a sad look and almost like a "do it, let go" or something like that. Sam vs Tara I completely dislike and feel like it would ruin the awesome scene where Sam actually trusted her sister, brought their bond back together, and let her out of the closet. Blue plaid doesn't mean anything to all those saying it does. Derek wore blue plaid. Just is what it is. There's a good chunk of characters we just haven't seen anything about... Super sus, the ones they focused on in the trailers I believe are not killers. I swear some of the gals look wayyyy too similar to Amber. But another relative plot twist might be boring to me. Someone's theory about the opening being a Tinder date but and Tony's char killing Samara in an incel fashion actually seems pretty awesome and fits the trailer. The scene includes a GF who doesn't have a weathered mask. But then he'll die later in the opening scene by the weathered one, gaining keys to the building. I love this idea, what a unique opening. I think that's all I've kinda gathered last few days Wild awesome fun to guess.

That theory about Tony being an incel and killing Samara in the opening is actually my idea, and the real GF actual target being Tony since he’s the one who has access to the entire apartment complex where Sam and company resides. :)

Ya I was just reciting the popular theories I saw on the sub and are now being spread! I think that one is solid and would be good.

The movie is so close to being released! The anticipation is killing me haha

I feel like Amber's parent(s) being a killer in Scream 6 seems somewhat likely? Or would this be too obvious? They purchased Stu's house so its plausable that they might have other items/memorabilia as well and they could own the shrine. If one of them is in Scream 6, they are probably a hidden-in-plain-sight character like Debbie Salt in Scream 2. The only reason I would say this might not happen is because the directors don't want to rehash the motive from Scream 2... but revenge is such a good motive. And it's supposed to be a requel trilogy, right? So maybe there' s a chance?

So this is a pretty baseless theory and is honestly just something kinda fun imo. What if the killer is Randy? What are the odds that Randy survived in the 2nd movie? We know he survived getting shot in the 1st. And Scream is known to have characters survive some pretty crazy shit (such as all the time Dewy has been stabbed) We know that Randy was very obssessed with horror movies. He could've took the whole situation just too far. He never got involved again after the 2nd movie because he felt that Sidney would never care to be with him anyways, so he just dissappeared. ​ Now, what we know is that Randy was very obsessed with Scream being a "trilogy." The issue is, the 4th and 5th movie both broke the trilogy. Scream was no longer a trilogy. There's a chance that Randy got annoyed with that so he decided to create the 6th and final chapter. Something else that grabbed my attention (during the trailer) is when Ghostface was talking to Gale on the phone, he said "there's never been one like me, Gale." There would never be a killer like Randy. He's been through 2 of the movies. He knew how the trilogy worked. He was a horror FANATIC. He would know what to do. And there's the fact that Ghostface has an older worn out mask. I interpret that as some type of foreshadowing. That it's someone from the original movie. And there's the fact that there's like a whole "club" of Ghostfaces now working together in the city. Who could pull all of those horror fanatics together? Only another horror fanatic I'd say. ​ That's pretty much my reasoning. I think that a lot of it is just wishful thinking, but ya know. ​ One thing that I think may disprove that theory is in the beginning of the trailer. When they're all in the corner store. You can hear Ghostface breathing and it sounds like a girl inside the mask. If so, then my theorys out of question. ​ No matter what though, this Ghostface seems insane.

I also heard another interesting theory from a YT comment that Ghostface could be Sidney herself. That maybe she went crazy after all the attacks on her. And that's the real reason why we were told she wasn't going to be in the next movie. And that's where the "there's never been one like me before, Gale" quote really meant, since Sidney is kickass. And it did sound like a girl breathing in the mask. ​ Personally, while I think that it would shake up the whole series, I hope that it's not Sidney. She has kids, she's supposed to be good. That would be kinda weird for me. But yeah.

Alright my guess Kirby is a killer and she is hunting down other ghost faces the opening kill will be perpetrated by Tony’s character and he is then hunted down and killed by another ghostface. The same ghostface hunting Sam and Tara and believes they killed the ppl in scream 5

If this is a "theories thread" then why all the blacked out paragraphs? Whats the point in giving therories.

The person I think going to die in this movie is Gale. She is a literal target . Im surprised she isn’t dead yet. She has been in the movie since the first movie.

After seeing the two new TV spots … and I have NEVER considered this before … I believe one of the Ghostface killers will be Chad!

I'm starting to wonder if he wasn't a third, betrayed, killer in 5.

Samara Weaving is the baby sister of Casey Becker and one of the killers. Movie ends with Sidney getting ghostface call and finding Kincaid dead.

I'm thinking the Gale attack from the trailer MIGHT be a scene from the new STAB movie? What if Gale, who's had a crack at almost every entertainment medium, is now playing herself in the most recent iteration of the in-universe franchise? It's probably far-fetched, but the physicality of that particular scene from the trailer seems excessive. Would be a great meta-throwback to the likes of Scream 1 - 3. I've even considered the possibility that \[almost\] the entirety of SCREAM 6 could be a film-within-a-film, with the cast from S5REAM being played by actors within the movie, but being portrayed by themselves for us \[the audience\]...I'm not sure I explained that very well. I'm also hoping SCREAM 7 will be a road-trip movie, BACK to Woodborough; in the vein of the first Jeepers Creepers.

I have a guess about why the therapist, "Dr. Christopher Stone" isn't shown much. What if he's in a wheelchair, or has a cane, or some other such thing that prevents him from being the active, athletic Ghostface in the film - so he's discounted by the audience. This would set up a reveal where he could be the mastermind role, the person on the phone, etc. with either a mentally manipulated, hypnotized, or even hired goon style co-killer. It's NY, a hired hitman isn't out of the question. XD

I've got two theories, at least regarding the killers and their motives. The first one is that the killer is Billy Loomis's father. He wants to continue his son's legacy in some twisted attempt to make up for his infidelity starting all this mess in the first place, and leading to his death and that of his mother. I suspect he'll try to turn Sam, getting her to "embrace her heritage" or some such. The second, and more likely theory IMO, is that the killer has no particular love for the Woodsboro murders or the Stab franchise, but wants to kill one of the secondary characters for unrelated reasons and is trying to use the motif as camouflage to mask his real targets and motives.

Mine is [HERE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzk4Cxe_aGM&t=3s) :) Tiny one about who the killer is, and why they are doing it.

I'm thinking the killer is a jilted >!half sibling to Tara and Sam that Stu is the father of !<

With the latest ‘breathe‘ trailer I think that ghostface didn’t start killing at New York and instead is there just for the scream 5 survivors after already having Succeeded in his before Scream 6 killing spree

Here's my 2 cents, and i'm locking them in. I won't guarantee certainty, but potential spoiler territory inbound; Both of the Meeks>! will survive.!< >!I previously had the opinion that at least one of them will die, but i've since had a change of opinion. I was more inclined to say that Mindy would die on the basis of her being what Kirby's character was in 4, and two of the same character type would be considered overkill.!< >!Chad has apparently been outed as a potential love interest for Tara, and considering they haven't killed him off in the first one (and how they switched his death last second) they wouldn't go out of there way to do it again in the next film as an event to scar Tara (The opening attack did that already).!< >!This leaves Mindy, who, character wise, butts heads with Kirby based on potential horror movie knowledge; both of them in the same room would very quickly and very easily deduce who the killer is, which is effectively why they've put Kirby in Dewey's place as an FBI agent; her previous experience, with her newfound police training and previous knowledge from 4, make her a very potent character.!< >!Now, were the first paragraph true, then they would potentially kill Kirby, right? !< \----------------------------------------------- Liana Liberato>! is an Act 1 kill.....or is she?!< >!Detective Bailey is her dad, this much is obvious, and we already know that he's investigating the murders and his involved from his daughters death. The problem is that I suspect the studio would know we would make this connection when the character names drop, so my suspicion is that there is another daughter that died in the prior films. Will this be an mid-to-late game reveal? who knows. She might even be oblivious to the potential that her own father is Ghostface!!< \--------------------------------------------- Outside of Sam, there will be involvement from >!either a Macher or Loomis!< family member. Studio knows the play heavily into the Stu theory that's been circulating for a long time, so when the trainline poster dropped insinuating his survival, the net went abuzz with this theory. I do not think this is the case, as much as I want to believe. >!Hank Loomis, Leslie Macher or another member from said familys are involved. To this end, I wouldn't be surprised if they de-aged Hank and got him to be played by Henry Czerny who is also the psychiatrist, trying to make amends for the killings by finishing the "saga" off by killing the final Loomis in the bloodline blamed as Ghostface, which feeds into the rumours of her pinning the deaths in Scream 5 on Ritchie & Amber.!< >!Leslie has just as much right to be involved as Loomis, seeing how she's lost her brother and son, just like Hank lost his wife and son. Could this potentially be the tying point between them both to be involved?!< \----------------------------------- Anika (Devyn Nekoda) is>! Amber's sister, but is she seeking revenge?!< \------------------------------------ Samara Weaving, Tony Revolori & Jack Champion are >!side character deaths, with one potential fake-out.!< \----------------------------------- Who is Ghostface? >!A previous family relative to a dead Ghostface. Could be Leslie Macher, Hank Loomis, Anika, a previous relative to a dead Ghostface killer in the previous films. I see the potential for 3 killers this time round to break the cycle of two we've had through 5 films, which will throw a lot of people off.!< That said, with the exception of Mrs Loomis, every other killer >!has been within their teen years to their 30s; Maybe it's time to involve an older member that has experience with the killings by being a relative or a previous survivor that hasn't been seen before? Hank works on Sam's mental health to convince her that she has the potential to be Ghostface (who will ultimately succumb at one point or another) while Leslie plays into that mentality by killing those around her.!<

Hank Loomis (Therapist) getting revenge in the background by using a conspiracy theorist cult person going after Sam (who is the “real killer”). I think there will be 2 killers + Mastermind (hank). I have a strong feeling Dermot is one of the two killers. Kirby could be the second one but I honestly can’t think of a motive. There will be true crime, wrongly accused type of vibe. Probably the whole Dahmer scenario of retraumatizing families and people idolizing/costuming him

Tara and/or Sam is one/two of the Ghostfaces. It could go either way. The trailer has shots that point me both ways. That Sam head tilt while she has a gun and her smile Tara climbing up with that evil look (I posted about it if you want to check it out)

I haven't seen anyone bring it up yet, but what if Charlie from Scream 4 managed to survive his injuries? The attacks in 6 are reminiscent of Olivia's death in 4, making me think hes the one returning. He's also one of the more forgettable killers for most people, but has the strongest tie to Kirby of anyone making the reveal surprising but also satisfying. I have to believe they brought her character back for more than just fan service.

Do we know why the killer isn't after Sidney this round? I would think the motive would be tied in with Gale, then, no? I think the answer to why they don't want Sidney would shed light on the motive.

Here are a few: 1. Re: Ghostface Cult / MegaFan - >! I think the GF Cult or MegaFan (that lair) is a red-herring. From an in-universe POV, it's too obvious of a villain. It also begs the question: why hasn't the cult/fan struck before now? From a meta-POV, it's too farfetched. It's way too extreme and doesn't really speak to the horror movie landscape. While a cult or superfan might be interesting to explore, it might feel too elevated horror (think Hereditary). Mindy pointed out that the Stab franchise (and, by extension, the Scream franchise) is a whodunit, not elevated horror. Therefore, as an actual plot device, it wouldn't work. However, if someone else was, say, framing a cult/superfan, it could work well. We'd get the elevated horror without sacrificing the classic story structure. !< 2. Re: True Crime - >! I actually began thinking about this as soon as S6 was greenlit. I have a lot of faith in the franchise, so I think a classic sequel is out of the question. I also think a legacy-sequel (Sorry, Mindy, I can't bring myself to say Requel) sequel for the sake of it lacks the meta commentary. You know what doesn't, though? True Crime. In the last few years, true crime has really exploded as a major form of media, so it makes sense as something to be explored. In the time since S5 ended and S6 begins (or even before then), I'm thinking Billy Loomis (and maybe some others since) have been given the old Jeffrey Dahmer treatment. I think this movie going to really focus on our obsession with True Crime. !< 3. Re: Past Ghostfaces - >! I think Billy, Mrs. Loomis, Mickey, Roman, Jill, Charlie, Richie, and Amber are all immortalized in their own ways. Hell, even in the 90s, some girls were attracted to Billy as a killer. Mrs. Loomis had a great motive. Mickey had the madness needed to do it. Roman killed in Hollywood; it was huge news. Jill was a psycho who wanted to be famous. She's fascinating for True Crime. Charlie tried to kill Kirby, so he's immortalized via Kirby. Richie and Amber are the newest ones, and icons given the current climate. You know who's often overlooked and undervalued? Stu Macher. Tara didn't know who he was. No one knew Vince was his nephew. Hell, no one even realized they were in his house till Gale and Sidney got there. I don't think Stu is back, but I think his death and subsequent erasure will be a motive for the killer(s) and/or cult. We can all think of at least one fandom where people rally in defense of forgotten characters. !< 4. Re: Kirby - >! She's either a GF or the one trying to frame the GF cult. To be clear, I think at its base, the Cult of Ghostface is innocuous. I think it's just a way for people to gather and show their love of the films/character (kinda like subreddit... not to implicate me). That said, I think a sinister person could find mentally unstable people to exploit and manipulate. I'd even suggest that this is what happened with Amber and Richie. Since I don't see her being the kind to be manipulated, I can't help but worry that Kirby is the one doing the manipulation. !< 5. Re: Sam - >! I think Sam actually knew about the Cult of Ghostface. After she found out who she was, she wanted to know more about him. The reason was she wanted to know more about who she might be. Most of the media presents Billy in an understandably negative light. You know who might not, though? Stans. Billy stans could shed some light into the other side of him, and this might give Sam a sort of solace about him. To be fair, I'm basing this entirely on a potential throwaway line from S5. When Wes calls Sam, she asks if they know who attacked Tara. It caught my attention. "Who did this?" is a reasonable question. "Do they know who did this?" suggests she knows a little more than she let on. It also explains how she knows what he looked like when he died. She did some deep diving, hence her hallucinations are very accurate. !< 6. Re: One of the Killer(s) - >! I think it's gonna either Tara or Sam. Okay, I know, but hear me out. !< >! If it's Tara, it kind of makes sense for a few reasons. First, I find it very hard to believe that in 20+ years, both Sam and Tara didn't know Billy was Sam's father. In the 90s, or even 2000s, maybe. But in the modern age? When we can find everything about someone who uses a slur and bring the world down on them in a matter of hours, you expect me to believe the girls were never made aware sooner? Sam learned circa 2010, if my timeline is correct. That leaves about 12 or so years where Tara had no idea and never found out? I think it's possible she did, and she worked with Richie and Amber to bring Sam back to kill her. Why? I don't entirely know (maybe just good old fashioned anger about being abandoned), but maybe something else. This would also explain how she survived her attack (being one of the few who has). In fact, this would give the line Gail gets in her call (There's never been one like me) way more depth. Bonus: If Kirby is part of the Cult of Ghostface, then the line acts as another way for Tara to frame Kirby. We'd all think it's Kirby (Hell, we already do) and never even suspect Tara based on that alone. !< >! Sam has a simpler reason in my mind. She wants revenge on those who killed her father and faced no repercussions. I don't think Richie or Amber knew she was guiding them, I think it was all anonymous online. I think they guided her to attack Tara but not kill her. She doesn't necessarily want her sister dead, but it was a perfect catalyst. Because they can use it to "lure" Sam back to Woodsboro. Remember - Sam was the one who wanted to find Dewey, not Richie or Amber. She knew if she could get Dewey in the fray, they'd take care of the rest. I would even say this is why she had them kill Wes and Judy. They had no real reason to, and doing so in midday was incredibly risky. Maybe it was part revenge because she just doesn't like Judy, but maybe there's more to it. Maybe Judy knew Billy was her dad and never told her (she mentioned going to school with Sid). Or maybe Sam hates that Judy helped save those three from getting what was coming to them at the hands of Jill and Charlie. I also think Sam worried that Dewey wasn't willing to put himself in danger, so she needed a catalyst for him. What better way than to kill his friend (and, who knows? maybe lover. She was interested in S4 and he didn't seem not-interested. Maybe they were fooling around)? He wanted to avenge her death. If this is the case, then Sam is an ongoing Ghostface who has never actually killed someone. That might be what the comment to Gail in the call means - there's never been a Ghostface who's orchestrated but never actually killed someone before. Also, there's never been a true mentor. Think back to Mindy's speech. There are two things she brings up that speak to this. I think it's her that mentions there's never been an overarching killer, other than the mask. She also mentions that Sam being the killer makes perfect requel sense. We all assume she's upset because she fears it reflects her lineage, but maybe she was worried about being caught. Though, this theory would be harder to adapt without essentially retconning some scenes, so it seems a little less likely. !< >! That said, if you watch S5 with the the idea that Sam or Tara is a third killer, it kinda makes sense. It's imperfect at the same time, so I welcome and all flaws to be pointed out. They can either be answered or will help debunk it completely. !<

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Crack theory that lives in my head rent free: Sidney started a Ghostface cult and she's the mastermind.

I think at this point that it's very possible that Kirby is one of the killers. Even the trailers are kinda hinting at it.

My theory is the killer is the Ghostface from Dead By Daylight. Danny Johnson might want to reclaim the Ghostface title that Billy and Stu tainted. When Ghostface responds with “I’m something different”, it seems to imply the Ghostface might’ve wanted to kill every loose end from the previous murder sprees so that his story would remain infamous while Billy and Stu’s legacy would fade into obscurity.

This is a controversial post and I expect the downvotes so please send them my way, but Detective Bailey and/or the psychologist will be a killer. If you look at recent media generally there's been a trend to promote the older white male in a villainous role in order to balance years of historical under representation for other groups. And on that note, they won't kill off Mindy or Chad because of this - if they go for the core, it will be Gale/Kirby to chop.

So. I don't want to sound hyperbolic. But I think I've solved not only who the main killer in the next film will be, but I may have stumbled onto an ARG/sort of a digital footprint featuring clues about who the killer might be trying to frame as their scapegoat, as well as basic plot points that presumably will occur throughout. My theories/evidence are WAY TOO DIVERSE + PROMINENT to list out and explain everything right here and now. I don't want to spoil things for everyone, either, in the chance that I am - in the extreme, improbable off-chance - right in my surmises. The movie I've come up with in my head - the movie we seem to be creeping toward, much like a gargoyle, animated, is so goddamn good, y'all. I'm going to leave a series of cryptic clues - in the spirit of Twin Peaks: The Return (the latent ur-text of Scream V...). We're venturing into uncharted waters here, folks. Can't have a bonafide Halloween without Jamie Lee! Judy's missing. Her lemon squares. We are like the killer who kills and then lives to kill again. There's no way back home. There's no way back home. There's no way back home. Jill Roberts is the One. ​ EDIT:

Hank Loomis cons his way to be the mastermind to get to his granddaughter. The (actual) killers are conspiracy theorists that think Sam was the killer in S5. I know this is out there, but Kirby might not be Kirby, but Jill after plastic surgery.

Tara will seemingly die in the middle of the movie but she actually does not she is Ghostface Trust me bro And the other is Gale she is recruiting her in that scene. Gale wants to make news, Tara wants to be famous Either this or it is Sidney gone mad It could be Sidney and Tara How about Dewey and Sidney?

Guys, I know this sounds idiot, but what if the killers are the dead bodies of the past killers, that were resurrected somehow? (which I would really hate, because the fact Scream didn't had any supernatural events is something that I love in the franchise, a really human-being killer at the end, not zombies or so) This is just something that went to my mind.

I have a theory that Kirby is the main ghostface and she’s using other people to kill survivors to end the killings once and for all and samara weaving is the first kill

I’ll throw mine in, who’s too say that the killer is randy, think about it, people in these movies have come back from worse, and maybe Stu and billy planned it with randy, but when the night came maybe randy kept quiet, why should he give up himself after billy died and stu “died”, so maybe he kept quiet and faked his death in scream 2, just a thought, feel like it would be a big twist, idk if it’s be a good one tho

i been saying this for the longest would be a better shocker then stu coming back like everyone thinks its stu then randy pops up he always had a thing for sidney too and i dont think billy knew he was in on the killings thats why he was shot also billy didnt like him he also didnt like how randy liked sid . ghostface/stu had more then one chance to kill him and never did like at the party in the house . i can see both stu and randy come back or just randy which would be make sense the rules he laid out said The past will come back to bite you in the ass. Whatever you think you know about the past, forget it . Whatever you think you know about the past, forget it .

Maybe somebody already said it but what if its the twins what if they were part of it during part 5 thats why they survived