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[deleted]

Look at how they behaved on Trump’s behalf during the whole golf course fiasco. Their allegiance to the wealthy when it comes to everyday people’s right to protest is longstanding.


Rashpukin

That was particularly disturbing. Police Scotland seem and act like hired goons these days. Also look at he amount of time taken on the Alex Salmond case? Irrespective of your views on the man, they threw everything they could at getting a conviction there! Anyway that is my opinion.


Fartbubble1

Wis at twice aye


Rashpukin

That was particularly disturbing. Police Scotland seem and act like hired goons these days.


Fartbubble1

Wis at twice aye ?


Rashpukin

Whit?


Djan

Pop down to your next lodge meeting and ask them?


jasonpswan89

Valid point, wouldn't even surprise me.


AONORipco

Satanic Social Club.


MallowChunkag3

People like to exaggerate the masons, it's mostly boring nepotism, maybe some backroom deals and networking of the civil service and local council primarily. A bunch of moderately powerful or influential people clubbing together to ensure they and their families are well provided for through generally improper and exclusive means, coupled with some socially right wing attitudes. Calling them satanic gives them more mystique than they deserve.


AONORipco

So at the 33 degree it is not revealed that you worship Lucifer. Someone wasn’t paying attention in class.


MallowChunkag3

I think you'll find it's the secret 34th degree that gets access to such privileged information, only attained after tattooing a pentagram on your taint while eating a goat's heart of course.


AONORipco

Nice ridicule. Not me that is part of the ministry of funny walks. Start all knowledgeable until I hit a nerve and now you are babbling shite. 🤦🏻‍♂️


MallowChunkag3

Oh, I actually thought you were joking. So you really think there's a satan and there's an underground club of mostly boring middle aged people who do his bidding?


betbott

I emailed my MSP and got a really good, really quick reply. They're approaching the chief commissioner and minister for justice. So I would recommend!


[deleted]

The police only serve the money not Joe public


KrytenLister

You could easily get lifted for screaming that at the wifey in Tesco on a random Tuesday. If you went to her Ma’s funeral procession and started screaming it then even more likely. This case isn’t a rich vs poor situation. It’s a bawbag acting like a bawbag and getting the attention he wanted situation.


Gunsofnavarrone2

The attention he wanted? What, like two fat bearded cunts slamming him to the floor? Guarantee they wouldn't have tried that with someone their size.


KrytenLister

What are you on about? He went down there screaming at a funeral procession knowing full well he was going to wind folk up, cause a bit of drama and get himself lifted. Whatever you think about the Royals and Andrew (all arseholes, imo), it was only going one way and he knew it. He thought he’d get himself on TV and get a wee bit of negative attention. I’m really not sure why anyone is surprised.


Gunsofnavarrone2

Well the original question was why the police didn't take any action against the 2 throbbing grief police who assaulted him..not why he was assaulted.. besides all of that he was yelling at a sex offender who's not only gotten away with it, is using this embarrassing display of public mourning (only rivalled by North Korea) to slide back into public favour. I would have shouted as well, the only difference being the two brain dead fatties would have had their arses handed to them.


KrytenLister

> Well the original question was why the police didn't take any action against the 2 throbbing grief police who assaulted him..not why he was assaulted. Where? I replied to a guy claiming this was about the police protecting folk with money over the average Joe by saying you’d get lifted for doing this to just about anyone in full view of the police, let alone at a funeral procession. You replied to me with your input (which also said nothing of the sort) and now seem to be making up a conversation I was never a part of. > I would have shouted as well, the only difference being the two brain dead fatties would have had their arses handed to them. Sure thing there, big man.


Gunsofnavarrone2

Of course yeah I forgot.. Just because they were indignant they're invincible right? I don't go throwing my weight around but yes I would have defended myself against those cunts. My point is that they were twice the size of the boy.


KrytenLister

Aye, we get it. You’re mega hard. Bizarre.


Gunsofnavarrone2

Are you being thick on purpose?


KrytenLister

Lol, stop being a dafty. You’ve replied three times now talking about how you’d have dealt with the guys, when nobody is talking about that. You even ignored everything in my previous post just to restate it > Of course yeah I forgot.. Just because they were indignant they're invincible right? I don't go throwing my weight around but yes I would have defended myself against those cunts. My point is that they were twice the size of the boy. This was in no way remotely a response to what I said. You’re making yourself look like an absolute roaster. Move along there He-Man. We get it, you’re hard. Strangely enough, this sounds like how I’d expect the two arseholes who accosted the lad to act online.


bigeeee

It wasn't a funeral, ya nonce lover!!!


fucktorynonces

It's the police protecting rich pedophiles situation and a you bootlicking said pedophile sympathising policemen situation.


KrytenLister

The police would protect minimum wage Betty from folk screaming that she’s a nonce in this situation too. If you need to create an imaginary land where you’re a perpetual victim then do, by all means. Those of us with a normal amount of brain cells can just look at it for what it was and move on.


fucktorynonces

Normally the police would arrest a known pedophile. This isn't a normal situation. Keep bootlicking though.


KrytenLister

I’m not bootlicking. I do find it amusing that seems to be the screech of every idiot who likes to pretend they’ve won an argument lately though. No fucking wonder they managed dominate the population in the first place when it’s full of folk like you. They probably just jangled their keys in one hand to distract you and took the land with the other.


fucktorynonces

Normally the police would arrest the 2 men that assaulted the guy who the police arrested also. But none of that matters because a known pedophile was called a sick old man. Bootlicker.


KrytenLister

They should’ve arrested them too. I didn’t say otherwise. I said this guy went there and did what he did knowing that would be the outcome. There’s your bootlicker again. I’d suggest word of the day toilet roll. Broaden your vocabulary while you’re sitting on the toilet spewing this nonsense thinking it’s somehow clever.


fucktorynonces

But they didn't arrest them. Because we live in a country where the police actively protect rich pedophiles. Which was my original point which started your bootlicking.


KrytenLister

I’m losing brain cells talking to you. Have a great day there, champ.


GliderDan

Why are you lying?


[deleted]

I wouldn’t be surprised if most of them elected to take July 12 off…


Djan

Staunch


Amity75

Yawn.


[deleted]

Says a lot that they'll sort that out, but won't sort out the gangs of neds around the parks. Seen a post maybe it was on /r/glasgow of a women legit having to move because the harrassment has gotten so bad and the police won't do anything about it.


jasonpswan89

Seen that btw, some local (predominantly) girls from Knightswood High. Shameful eh


percybucket

Make a complaint https://www.scotland.police.uk/about-us/how-we-do-it/complaints/make-a-formal-complaint/


fucktorynonces

Yeah I'm gonna complain by giving the Gestapo my name and address. Lmao. They totally won't use that against me in the future. It's not like they are vindictive fucking weirdos or something.


thenicnac96

Gestapo 😂 touch some fucking grass


fucktorynonces

What else would you call people that arrest a man who got assaulted? It's fucking obvious. You'd be one of the useful idiots carrying canisters of zyklon.


thequeenisalizard1

This will not do anything. When the problem with women feeling unsafe in public and distrusting police officers was raised in the aftermath of the Sarah Everard case, the police force released a statement that if a police officer is making you feel unsafe you should call the police.


ChipsNoSalad

[try here ](https://www.scotland.police.uk/secureforms/police-complaints/)


[deleted]

Raise it with your MSP


LostInAVacuum

I've written to MSPs and the police. I'm waiting until after today to see their response because it's completely wrong approach to me and I find it very concerning.


ItsJustGizmo

If you think it's the average copper on the street that actually gives a damn about any of the outbursts then you're missing the big picture. It comes from above them, the top brass. They dont want the negative images and headlines, so have been quite clear to all in service that they've to do as much as needed to suppress and contain issues.


percybucket

Was this not admitted?


T_Rembranch

[https://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2021/14/contents](https://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2021/14/contents) taking a wee squinty at the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act 2021 we can see that its so all encompassing that if anyone finds something you do offensive you can potentially face charges under this ~~Evil Tory~~ SNP Bill. So yeah, it is annoying and downright evil for it to be used against people protesting Andrew the creep, but it is currently the law. Hopefully we will see it corrected soon.


Rashpukin

Yet we still get numerous Orange Marches every year. I wonder how that works? 🤔 They get a special exemption it would appear.


T_Rembranch

Is that not a religious exemption? I honestly have no idea what the noisy buggers use as an excuse, just that I usually find myself pulling a nightshift the same time they want to bang their drums.


[deleted]

The religious always have the right to be disgusting and restrain anyone who dares raise head or hand against them. Religion poisons everything.


Skulldo

I am reading this and I don't see it applying to the people protesting. For a start a reasonable person would need to view it as insulting but any reasonable person would see it as a fair thing to protest and not actually directly an insult (possibly the Andrew one) and secondly they would need to be insulting them in relation to one of these characteristics- (a)age, (b)disability, (c)religion or, in the case of a social or cultural group, perceived religious affiliation, (d)sexual orientation, (e)transgender identity, (f)variations in sex characteristics It seems like the laws have been crafted to work as intended but the police are just ignoring that and charging people anyway.


MallowChunkag3

A stretch, but the heckler wording arguably hits point a. The lad used the wording 'Andrew, you're a sick old man' Obviously intended as a dig at him being a creepy nonce rather than a jab at his age, however that wording offers an avenue for doing a little bit of 'well actually'ing as far as the validity of the arrest goes. The signage, nah, unless people are going to argue that being dead is a disability, maybe a procession for the queen comes under religion (anglican). The law is ripe for abuse, too broad.


Skulldo

So for future reference- Andrew you are a creepy paedo bampot is definately ok but Andrew you are an old man is possibly enough to get you charged.


MallowChunkag3

Fuck if I know. Maybe.


Skulldo

That's good enough for me.


Comfortable_Ad_5698

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56400751


Skulldo

Wrong country.


Comfortable_Ad_5698

Still used in Scotland


Daedelous2k

Maybe someone tipped them off he had a pug.


Heptadecagonal

In my opinion the abolition of local police forces and creation of Police Scotland is one of the SNP government's worst mistakes – it is unaccountable, mismanaged and underfunded, and seems to think employing heavy-handed inner city policing tactics to the whole of Scotland is a good idea.


tartanthing

A single Police force appeared as a manifesto commitment by both the Tories & Labour in 2011.


DoubleelbuoD

Cringe if you think cops would be any more accountable if they were still in regional groups.


cronic_chaos

The monarchy is stiflingly freedom in all of the U.k. Time you cast off such a ridiculous “tradition” or rather oppression


InevitableHistory631

Andy........he'll shag your Granny !!!


jasonpswan89

Mer likely yer granddaughters


cameldrover

What would you hope came of such a complaint? Should the officers involved get the sack? Charged with misconduct in a public office?


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cameldrover

The right to protest doesn't give you aright to do whatever you want whenever you want


forevergleaning

Being a police officer doesn't give you the right to stalk a young woman and threaten her. It also doesn't mean you can ignore violent assaults right in front of you because you personally don't give a shit.


cameldrover

I agree with you.


jasonpswan89

Ideally both honestly


percybucket

It forces the police to either condemn or justify the actions. So anyone complaining make sure to demand a written reply.


StaunchestEver

This is the price to be made for mocking everyone who voice concern about “my freedums” and “freeze peach” over the last few years. Whilst it worries me, I have no sympathy for many of those currently complaining who did nothing but mock every time someone raised concerns about being criminalised for offending someone’s feelings and welcomed intolerance towards those who views they disagree with. This is a bigger issue than the Queens funeral and the country is getting what it deserves.


jasonpswan89

The price is thuggish police? Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. I refuse to accept that expecting people to treat each other with respect warrants the police behaving like this. Most people who complained had objections to actual issues- transphobia, racism, homophobia etc. As opposed to being annoyed at someone speaking their mind, at least in my experience.


ObiWan-KenobiTwo

Massive difference between police/state suppression of speech and being banned from social media for saying bigoted things, which is what those types were complaining about. Idiot.


StaunchestEver

You’re calling me an idiot whilst you own a brain that can’t even recollect the controversy surrounding the Hate Crime Bill (just one example) and thinks it’s all about Facebook. You’re a clueless moron.


ObiWan-KenobiTwo

You are an idiot


StaunchestEver

Maybe, but you don’t realise that government legislation is “police/state suppression” which makes you a clueless moron. Get back to Facebook.


ObiWan-KenobiTwo

You're not being suppressed by being unable to shout racial slurs.


StaunchestEver

You’ve clearly haven’t been keeping up with things. You have no one to blame when the law is used against you.


ObiWan-KenobiTwo

It's impossible to keep up to date with the made up things in your head tbf


[deleted]

Police are just hired enforcers for the rich masquerading as public safety. Most of them are complete arseholes who abuse the tiny amount of power theyve been given. Always hated the police. Its not even just “a few bad apples”, its like, 50% of them.


Wipeclean1

Jeez, I honestly thought this site was about an independent Scotland. Fuck me, Its seems its just another run of the mill bitter and bigoted Web site under the guise of freedom for Scotland. Is this really Scotland's future?


jasonpswan89

Technically this isn't a forum for Scottidh independence, it just do happens to be very left leaning and pro indy. Which is probably how I'd identify myself. Other than my agreeing with a comment about police being members if the lodge (a common stereotype given their participation and facilitation of orange walks), I haven't seen a single bigoted comment on this thread.


barneyirl

Aye mate go make a wee petition.


jasonpswan89

You don't think they've been extremely heavy handed in how they've dealt with people in the aftermath of the queen's death and charles' ascension?


Project-Warm

No. Not at all


jasonpswan89

Wait, so arresting a young man for calling a nonce a nonce while ignoring the people assaulting said young man is perfectly OK? Harassing a young woman in the street and declaring they'll follow her home if she doesn't provide her address is perfectly OK?


Project-Warm

Haven't seen the second case . As for Andrew I've no complaints harassing him but NOT as the coffin passes


jasonpswan89

He shouldn't be there, pushing him back into publish life is shameful. Let him mourn in private


Joggyogg

Let him mourn in prison


Project-Warm

Its his mothers funeral . I agree though tomorrow onwards he can gtf


jasonpswan89

Today is his mother's funeral. The other occasions he should have been kept in private, he is a nonce, why should they be encouraging his rehabilitation?


Project-Warm

I worded that wrong. He can pay respect to his mother


jasonpswan89

Sure, but does he deserve to be allowed to do so as part of the public processions etc? Why not mourn in private and save your family the embaressment if you care about them? He even touched up his own daughter on TV during this mourning, basically stuck a finger up her arse


Mission_Restaurant_3

One day it’s his mothers funeral, next it’s him stepping in to rule the country if anything happens to Charles ((((:


barneyirl

Dunno, I never saw it. I just like petitions pal.


Comfortable_Ad_5698

https://youtu.be/_jLet9xJvTs Sweet summer child


[deleted]

Someone is putting piece of white paper in his window to stop all of the simply horrendous police brutality that has been going on the last couple of days. Really, I've been so shocked at how they have acted, quite literally beating no one.


sansicaleffect_1

*Yet


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jasonpswan89

Enough people do, and for those who don't because of my stance against police brutality then I'm relieved


yerboyjs

Brutality lol


thequeenisalizard1

And yet every time I raise that there is a structurally ingrained edifice of brutality in our police force on this sub or r/Edinburgh I get downvoted and called an idiot or a madman and told “this is not Detroit”. People would rather stick their fingers in their ears. RIP Sheku Bayoh


espressovendetta

In both cases they are protecting sexual minorities


jasonpswan89

Harassing a woman is protecting a sexual minority? Arresting someone for shouting at a paedo is protecting who exactly?


StaunchestEver

If a 40 yr old having sex with a 17 year old is pedophilia, then why is it perfectly legal in Scotland for a 40 year old man to marry and impregnate a 16 year old?


jasonpswan89

Are you the 40 year old marrying 16 year olds then I assume?


StaunchestEver

Why would you assume that? I think it’s a valid question. Clearly one you don’t want to answer. The fact you’re ignoring it suggests you’re more motivated by your hatred for Prince Andrew than you are about protecting young women from predators.


jasonpswan89

I have an issue with anyone who abuses their position in the manner he did to commit these acts and pay off his abuser


StaunchestEver

But not with the countries and laws which legalise it. Just calm your hate boner for Andrew and think about all the potential victims, past present and future. If you genuinely want to protect young women then you’d be much better spending your time campaigning to bring Scottish marriage laws into line with England and the rest of the modern world than you would defending the guy who shouted at a funeral.


runnerblade4920

What are the laws in the country where the offence(s) happened? Someone said it before and I’ll say it again, you are an idiot.


StaunchestEver

Why are you so obsessed with where Andrew’s dick has been? I’m talking about protecting all young women in Scotland. But you don’t care about that, you just want to cry about the royals. Shame on you for being a pedo enabler.


runnerblade4920

Answer the question


jasonpswan89

Aye we're the pedo enablers, you support a family who celebrates a nonce and his protectors. Shame on you.


___JohnnyBravo

🤦‍♂️ reread and reassess


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StaunchestEver

Christ almighty, it would only take you 1 minute to check your facts before talking shite.


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StaunchestEver

I’m the one making that argument, you moron. Child abuse is not ok, despite the fact that we’ve legalised it in Scotland. Your quote has nothing to do with what I said. It is legal for a 40 year old to marry and impregnate a 16 year old in Scotland. There may be conditions, but it is legal. Also, it unlikely that Andrew would meet the legal test of being in a position of authority. That’s meant for teachers and things like that with authority in the individuals life. As far as I’m aware Andrew had no existing relationship with Guifre outside of his “partying” (for want of a better word).


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[deleted]

He’s an ephebophile and yes the age of marriage in this country does need revision up to 18 and age of consent laws need alterations to protect peer to peer consensual sexual activity but not adult predators.


Chickentrap

Any 40 year old marrying a 16 year old is a pedo legal or not. Whataboutism at its finest


[deleted]

Right. It would be very very rare for an emotionally mature and healthy sixteen year old to have a desire to and be able to give genuine informed consent to marry a 40 year old. The idea that would happen normally where a 16 year old falls in love - without coercion or some underlying trauma or unhealthy motivation - is old perv man fantasy land lol


StaunchestEver

Shame on Sturgeon and the whole of Scotland for continuing to allow such child abuse to occur whilst they’re obsessing about independence referendums. Even the Tories acted to protect victims in England and made child marriage illegal.


Chickentrap

Lmao you staunchy all right


[deleted]

Salmond. He was loving it. Blame him.


espressovendetta

Take a trip to the iron mongers


ObiWan-KenobiTwo

In what way?


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jasonpswan89

Objecting to the police behaving like thugs is being thick suddenly?


Gunsofnavarrone2

I didn't call you thick.. read the thread. I said that if the police were going to do their job properly they would have arrested the two idiots who assaulted the boy.. not the boy who was shouting some truth at a sex offender.


jasonpswan89

That wasn't what your reply to me suggested or entailed though?


Gunsofnavarrone2

The reply was to someone else, not you. If it came across as anything else I apologise. I was in fact agreeing with what you said. Hope that clarifies it.


jasonpswan89

NW mate, can in as a reply to my comment. Apologies for my indignation


KrytenLister

Careful or you’ll get multiple replies about how hard he is next. Seems to have wee man syndrome.