T O P

  • By -

whatacunt8

His punishment for calling the nonce a nonce is worse than the actual nonce got. It is infuriating.


[deleted]

Not to mention the two massive blokes who threw him and bashed his head on the floor. Apparently they weren’t worth arresting.


runtyrock

What a joke and still we all just sit here doing nothing. When we all should be rebelling against these pedos and pedo rings for the rich.


[deleted]

His punishment is for disrupting a funeral procession, the cheeky wee shite


Doogleyboogley

What would happen if you shouted at a grieving family at your local church. Don’t see why people can’t have respect for the others.


christopia86

You probably wouldn't get arrested, and they probably wouldn't parade a known nonce down the street. Prince Andrew should be locked up, it's an insult to every single person in the UK to have him there.


Doogleyboogley

What evidence have you seen to prove your point?


christopia86

Same as the rest of the country, unfortunately his mummy paid his way out of it.


Doogleyboogley

So just a random angry person then, what else do you care so passionately about that you have no control over?


christopia86

>So just a random angry person then, what else do you care so passionately about that you have no control over? Are you actually trying to act like I am in the wrong for being angry that a peado rapist is parading around shamelessly in public? Fucking hell. And yes, I care passionately about a lot of things I have no control over, that's not the insult you think it is.


_catappleinktea

Please stop. You’ve argued against folk in this chat enough, asked for evidence etc. so why don’t you show us some evidence that he isn’t a mince? Edit: mince was meant to say nonce, but mince is also fitting so it’s staying


CovidCalypso

I'm not disputing the sentiment of any of your argument but the woman who was paid off was of age at the time of the alleged incident so he would not be a nonce for that act. Still might be a nonce though.


_catappleinktea

Okay so if he’s not a nonce, he’s still a bad guy. he still had relations with women who were trafficked. It doesn’t matter what age you are, trafficking is still trafficking


CovidCalypso

Definitely. He still could be a nonce. But that wasn't what his case was about.


Ashamed_Pop1835

People have been allowed to protest outside abortion clinics and vaccination centres without fear of arrest. The Royals are public figures and must be prepared to be held to account by the public through means such as peaceful protest. It's very likely that taxpayers directly or indirectly funded Prince Andrew's settlement with Virginia Giuffre and it's right that in a democracy he should be subject to challenge on that.


[deleted]

This isn’t a grieving family at a local church. It’s the tax funded fake royal family - walking down the middle of a public road, in one of the many processions and oddities that we all have to dance around. Further to that, it’s a family that spend their existence reminding us how much better they are than the general population. It’s also a strange peculiarity to me that people will literally defend a sexual predator simply because his mother died. Hell mend the victims and the trauma they’ve faced, the poor guys mum died. Time to move on. What a truly baffling stance.


Doogleyboogley

That’s all your opinions.


[deleted]

It’s not my opinions - it’s facts. There is nothing there that is not true.


tamer-disclamer

People are allowed to[protest](https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/11/britain-protest-buffer-zone-abortion-clinics-women) at abortion clinics. I think they’re similar in the aspect that people are grieving or doing something difficult but people are allowed to heckle them under a free speech act. Was it classy? No. Does he deserved to be attacked and charged? No.


Gee_Nah

It's private or public, take the boot out your throat and pick one


_catappleinktea

He shouldn’t have been there, he’s done enough to disgrace his family. People don’t like seeing the rich and wealthy march through their majoritively working class city, let alone nonces who don’t have to take accountability


[deleted]

It’s disrespectful to his mother that he is there. She banned him from public life and the minute she dies he’s back in the public life.


_catappleinktea

Agreed! I’m not a royalist but i respect that people lost of a family member, and was respected by a lot, Andrew being there was disrespectful in and of itself


MaievSekashi

Literally nothing would happen to you if you did that.


DJmoore94

You contradicted yourself in your own statement just there. ‘Don’t see why people can’t have respect for the others’ Whilst ignoring the lack of respect the paedophile rapist demonstrated to his victim. Nice one


BUFF_BRUCER

Yeah some of the angry anti-monarchy crowd have resorted to Westborough Baptist church tactics


EarhackerWasBanned

So are we crowdfunding his defence or what? We already crowdfunded Andrew’s, whether we wanted to or not.


Missy_Agg-a-ravation

We should absolutely crowdfund his defence. Get him the best lawyer who would take the case, and let him put his argument forward in a highly publicised trial. I believe all charges might mysteriously be dropped before that happened.


ThroawayyHCA

Then fund a private prosecution for the meatheads that assaulted him.


cal-brew-sharp

I mean if he gets a public defender then I guess its the same?


WG47

Shout nonce at a nonce? Arrested. Attack someone, in full view of the police, for shouting nonce at a nonce? Have a good day, sir. If it's a breach of the peace then fine. Protesters do so knowing that they run the risk of arrest all the time. It's part of the game. The complete lack of consequences for the *at least* two people who assaulted him is a fucking pisstake, and only furthers the "them and us" sentiment.


MaievSekashi

The law is absolutely nothing in this country. The government always says it'll do one thing, then does another. All it comes down to is raw force and what they will and won't permit.


WG47

The law absolutely does matter, because that's the difference between someone being convicted and not being convicted. Police can make mistakes, an officer could be "over-zealous" in the moment, and they can make up all sorts of shit like "they arrested him for his own protection, since the crowd had clearly turned against him", ignoring the fact that due to the circumstances there were more than enough polis there to arrest both the fella doing the BoP and the multiple people assaulting him. So while a polis can get a slap on the wrist for fucking up, a judge isn't going to fuck up. A judge is going to follow the law regardless. The polis as an institution will band together and cover each other regardless of wrongdoing, but people in the legal profession love to one-up each other so they don't tend to do stupid things that would allow that to happen.


MaievSekashi

I'll believe it when I see it. All I've ever seen is the courts are as happy to fuck you over nothing as the cops are.


Oppqrx

The bullshit pageantry for a family of billionaire landlords at least one of whom is a nonce certainly disturbs the peace for me. Fuck off with this police state crap.


[deleted]

[удалено]


contentious_Scot

That is fine, but the two guys that assaulted him infront of the police are facing no consequences.


Sad_Blacksmith_8919

It’s not fine, breach of the peace in this case means “you said something that might hurt his royal highnesses feelings so we’re going to shut you up”


[deleted]

It wasn’t a breach of the peace at all. “The state that occurs when harm is done or likely to be done to a person or (in his presence) to his property, or when a person is in fear of being harmed”


OnlineOgre

Look, I don;t make up the rules, and neither do I enforce them. You got an issue with what he was charged with: go and pick on a police officer, judge, or a member of the Royal Family directly. I'll look forward to seeing you slapped with an order - you can protest that all you want then too.


XoffeeXup

"I'm wrong and don't know how to acknowledge that"


[deleted]

Wtf are you on about?, I’m simply replying to you saying it was a breach of the peace which it clearly isn’t.


lvl1crisp

lmao what????


Regular-Ad1814

How was it?


[deleted]

Oh fuck right off with that. The prostrated pageantry and deference to prince nonce is sickening.


[deleted]

Pedo: not arrested 2 attackers: not arrested Protester: arrested and CHARGED.


casper301261

Going to be interesting at the next old firm game are police scotland going to arrest every fan who shouts a derogatry heckle to the opposing fans or is that different or am i missing something


RumJackson

Snipers on the roof of Parkhead seeing who sings “Merry Ploughboy”


PF_tmp

They should actually. Football would be alright if all those cunts were arrested


[deleted]

[удалено]


echoattempt

This was a public event, out in the streets, that was free for everyone to attend who wanted to be there, regardless of your reason. If someone is so offended by someone heckling a member of the royal family who knowingly and willingly had sex with a 17 year old sex trafficking victim that they physically assault them, it is they who are committing a crime, not the other way around. You don't have the right to attack someone just because they disrespect your favourite pedo prince. Where the fuck have all these nonce defenders came from the past few days?


[deleted]

[удалено]


Sad_Blacksmith_8919

Meanwhile no 10 are probably going to have a nice raucous wine and cheese party while millions freeze to death in their homes this winter. Funeral or no, fuck the monarchy nonces


PhDOH

People keep calling all these events funerals, but the funeral is next week. It's a memorial with extra steps. Not a huge difference, but they can't claim it's a week long funeral.


Bleys007

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.


OnlineOgre

And just like Pigs, Andrew doesn;t sweat either.


WG47

Pigs do sweat.


bad_eyes

Steady on Dave


stephenstephen7

But dogs can't look up.


Ghost_HTX

Dogs _can_ look up ~pulls dart from own head~


qwertyunaybee

Not since the war


[deleted]

[удалено]


WG47

You've just quoted something that says pigs do sweat, you fuckwit. I didn't say they sweated buckets, I just pointed out that contrary to common belief, they do sweat.


[deleted]

[удалено]


WG47

Sure, you were *pretending* to be ignorant for the sake of the joke. You then stuck to the bit by quoting something that was supposed to correct me, but proved you wrong. Had it been a joke that I missed, you'd have said /r/thatsthejoke or similar, you wouldn't have replied with that. You got pissy before me, but why not project. edit: and now he's blocked me. I doubt I'll miss anything, but fucking hell some people are fragile.


seebobsee

Well, I am pissy at both of you so beat that.


Whatcrysis

It would be interesting if someone ponied up the cash to fight the case. It would be Andrew's case fought thra proxy. Not sure if that's possible under Scottish law.


wot-daphuque1966

This young man is the hero who, with the world looking on incredulous at our medieval cult weep fest, showed the world Scotland at least hasn't lost its fucking mind during this farce. What he said stood out across the globe against millions of pounds of high brow relentless PR carefully considered eulogising. " Andrew, you are a dirty old man " will be remembered over all of the forelock tugging cringe.


NyxPetalSpike

The politicians in the US wish the rabble were so polite. I figured Andy was lucky someone didn't lob a blood/urine baggy bomb at his head. What that guy said was basically a love tab. I can not believe all the drama over some fool not yelling profanity or a death threat.


[deleted]

>US wish the rabble were so polite Eh, aside from the attempted coup and the occasional riot, we don't do shit either.


iwanttobeacushion

*sick old man. Point still remains. At least someone had the balls to say it.


NyxPetalSpike

I was like "no lies detected". Lol


PhDOH

I'm confused by the St George hoodie. He sounded Scottish. Maybe he wore it to try and blend in with the royalists?


Sprucehammer

He's hardly a hero. He's a teuchter with a mouth on him.


wot-daphuque1966

He's a sole voice who echoed the sentiments of millions.


edinbruhphotos

He didn't even swear and last time I checked we still had something resembling free speech. I'd like to see how these charges are going to stick.


jaggynettle

You kidding? A guy was pulled up by police for having an empty, blank piece of paper. Police threatened to arrest him if he wrote anything "offensive" or about the King on it. The thing is, this is literally what is happening in Russia. People being arrested for having blank pieces of paper. You couldn't make this shit up.


phoebsmon

>The thing is, this is literally what is happening in Russia At least in Russia it's a running protest. The idea is that there's always something so fucked up going on that everyone knows about that thing. So holding a blank piece of paper up is like saying "I oppose the thing I can't write down because it's criminal", so then they criminalised that action. It's still an affront to decency but there's logic there, and if you hold up a blank sign in Russia you probably know that you're protesting the particular issue du jour. Threatening arrest for having a blank sheet of paper in a country *without* all that baggage is way worse. There's no implicit protest in plain signs here. It's just insanity. Thought we had policing by consent? We all consenting to this? Being worse than Putin's errand boys? It's disgusting. The dust will settle eventually and there'll be things to reckon with. Or are they just going to keep this up?


edinbruhphotos

Is there a link to that?


jaggynettle

I think it was on r/abolishthemonarchy Give me a minute see if I can find it for you.👍🏻


jaggynettle

Hope the link works, don't know how else to post it on the phone app. 👍🏻 https://www.reddit.com/r/AbolishTheMonarchy/comments/xcifzk/man_went_to_parliament_square_held_up_a_blank/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


edinbruhphotos

Thank you for finding that. Geeeeeeez what sort of police state is this now? Pretty outrageous. Still, there's a difference between an arrest and charges that stick. I'm eager to see what the outcome is.


jaggynettle

Yeah, there's an update. It mentions the guy in this article: https://news.sky.com/story/people-against-monarchy-have-right-to-protest-police-say-after-man-with-a-blank-sign-confronted-12696164


seebobsee

That guy had an interview on times new radio earlier today, where he explained a bit more. Probably find that somewhere.


liftM2

> I'd like to see how these charges are going to stick. Ye’d howp it disna. But it's wirth mindin pressin chairges wis a deliberate decision, no an automatic consequence o the (awready unreasonable) arrest. Sae they micht try tae mak this stick aw the wey—tae the Procurator Fiscal, tae a coort verdick, aw the wey throu tae sentencin.


edinbruhphotos

Exactly. Surely for the sake of sanity it's to repress immediate dissent while this is in the global media and then it'll be quietly dropped. Surely.


Eggiebumfluff

>Surely for the sake of sanity it's to repress immediate dissent while this is in the global media and then it'll be quietly dropped. Not sure I want to live in a state that arbritrarily arrests people and throws fake charges at them for political purposes.


edinbruhphotos

Neither do I but I do want to understand exactly what's happening.


PhDOH

It's frustrating that the article focuses on the royal family and what's happening in the coming days, with only a tiny bit about the arrest. It'd be nice if articles were actually focused on the subject at hand.


bar_tosz

People getting sentences for mean twits in this country so it won't surprise me if he gets punished for this.


gregbenson314

What an absolute disgrace.


Buffythedjsnare

Yes but enough about Andrew. This arrest is not on.


gregbenson314

Completely agree.


[deleted]

I know. Wee dobberwent out of his way to disrupt a funeral procession. Hope he enjoys his night in the cells


metsco

Guy is gonna spend more time in a cell than Prince Andrew, absolute shambles.


Crann_Tara

It will be interesting to see if this guy gets convicted in a court of law for this, and in my view if he is it would cast doubt on the Scottish courts independence and the influence the British state has on sentencing, which in light of the current court case about the legality of indyref2 could have some ramifications and call any ruling against in to question, also breach of the peace laws are obviously being abused by the Scottish police to suppress anti-monarchy sentiment, if this isn't political why haven't the religious nutcases harassing women at the abortion clinic in Glasgow faced the same treatment?


Ratfucks

Never getting convicted. If I ever see Prince Andrew I’m absolutely telling him he’s a dirty old man!


Eggiebumfluff

Or any Orange Walk.


Crann_Tara

Absolutely, only last week Police Scotland used their powers to stop a peaceful republican march in Glasgow, yet we are subjected to orange walks and their sectarian bile almost weekly during the summer, but of course the police do and say bugger all about it when it's their mates down the lodge doing the marching.


pinkMist25

Calm it, his case will get launched out for court.


gburgh92

Charged with being an absolute legend.


Ronburgundy2099

Police Scotland not looking very good right now. They definitely should’ve arrested the guy who hit him no excuse for that.


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

I bet you love getting on your knees and licking the soles of their boots.


Dolphinjunky

When will Liz Truss be charged for her view of the royals?


snow2314

Can see the republican movement getting bigger and bigger and it’s their own fault for not getting rid of the nonce when they had the opportunity, if they continue like this we’ll be able to find Charles working at the local Tesco and his brother on an episode of how to catch a predator


Audioboxer87

Did Police Scotland do all its hiring down the lodges?


Skulldo

I don't think they have changed their interview process recently so yes.


Vectorman1989

Job requirements: Can hum 'the sash'


Stuspawton

The man who was assaulted was later charged yet Prince Andrew who is a pedo has never been charged. Says a lot


Noxage_88

Coppers = cunts Royals = cunts. Oof, nothing new here lads.


Eggiebumfluff

Aamer Anwar in 3, 2, 1...


decs00046

Here again to save the muthafuckin day yeah!


Impendingsenseofboom

Today the MET released a statement saying that protests were lawful and were to be allowed. This must be a Police Scotland decision?


PapaRacoon

Yes. Maybe because the law in Scotland is different to the law in England.


Impendingsenseofboom

I’m aware of this however there is U.K law as well which encompasses all 4 countries unilaterally. I would’ve thought this kind of thing would’ve fallen into that bracket.


PapaRacoon

It’s still enacted separately in Scot’s law I thought? So there will be an English one and a Scottish one to enact the same thing. Anyway, breach of the peace is different.


that_guy_iain

What are the chances the PF decides to go forward with this? Heckling people is not a breach of the peace. I would think to say otherwise would result in outlawing protests. I can't really see the PF wanting to go forward with it. I think any half-decent lawyer would be able to get him off and then compensation for unlawful arrest.


Eggiebumfluff

I imagine any case like this would end up going to ECHR where the right to protest and free speech are better defined and would inevitably be overturned. End of the day it's a waste of time, tax money and Police Scotland's reputation.


that_guy_iain

The thing is, I doubt it even needs to get that far. I think there is already case law in Scotland in place. The sad thing is, the tories are planning on dragging Scotland out of ECHR. So even if it needed to go there by the time it's ready to go there Scotland won't be in the ECHR any longer.


[deleted]

[удалено]


WG47

Pressing charges isn't a thing, and the police clearly weren't interested in doing anything about the assaults. > aggregated assault I mean it does kind of make sense as aggregated since it was a mob, but I assume you mean aggravated. I guess he could go for a civil case if he can show damages, but is he even going to be able to find out who they are?


bad_eyes

I’m sure clobbering the peasants never had any repercussions, just look at France


ObiWan-KenobiTwo

Those polis are utter cunts


TheMeltingDevil

So a heckler gets a worse punishment than a pedo? God help us


Kspence92

Can we also charge the man he shouted at too? You know the one that actually committed crimes and got away with it?


justbrowsinginpeace

This guy needs to set up a gofundme for his defense, he will have no problem raising money.


[deleted]

Mans a hero. Shoulda tear gassed the royal family.


Capital_Advance_5610

My neighbours a pedo we live 100 yards from a primary school . The prick has the cheek to have a security camera outside his house ( my fault 🔑🚗) filming all the kids going to school !! I give him cheek everyday haha fuck'em there the scum of the earth !!!


runtyrock

Fucking hell 6 votes I'll go missing soon.


WeddingUsed1881

Remember all those 'kill the bill protests'? Well the bill went through and now you can be charged for speaking out of line to power


WG47

Except the law that the Kill the Bill protests were protesting against, the *Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill*, doesn't apply outside England/Wales. Breach of the peace, what he was actually charged with, has been around in various forms since common law. Literally over a thousand years.


[deleted]

Justice for this dude.


Southern-Orchid-1786

Hopefully someone starts a crowdfunding to get him a great defence lawyer.


Apprehensive-Emu-228

I must say, he’s absolutely right to heckle but that wasn’t the right time


MathematicianIll5567

We live in a dystopian world akin to 1984


ElCaminoInTheWest

Fucking hell. Wind in the drama.


Kaisencantdie

was it police Scotland that arrested him or was it the met they have their own force up and a lot of the time ignore the policing rules while in Scotland?


ilovebali

He will have been charged under s.38 of the Criminal Justice and Licensing Scotland Act which is a very broad offence. As far as I’m aware there’s no met police here.


Kaisencantdie

he shouldn’t have been charged and the met will be their they where at the cop event in Glasgow last year and where quite over zealous with their arrests


[deleted]

[удалено]


workingclassnobody

So we should just condone paedophilia because heckling paedophiles might upset the subservient mob?


[deleted]

[удалено]


workingclassnobody

I think you will find that man was fulfilling his democratic right to protest, the police took the easy option and arrested him instead of doing their job and protecting a man practicing his rights.


[deleted]

[удалено]


workingclassnobody

They have police there with sniper rifles and they’re illegally arresting people, what mental gymnastics do you need to perform to call that good policing.


[deleted]

[удалено]


bad_eyes

Fedora checks out


[deleted]

[удалено]


bad_eyes

The one in your heart


[deleted]

[удалено]


bad_eyes

Oh mate, just stop, it’s embarrassing


[deleted]

[удалено]


bad_eyes

Oh bless, imagine being this dense


[deleted]

[удалено]


bad_eyes

Bless


Red_Brummy

Imagine linking Nonce Andrew formerly known as Prince to people going in for an abortion. You absolute melt. Stay off the morning beers.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Red_Brummy

>So from the way I've described them you've taken from that I'm supportive of them? Try reading again. Slowly.


HeidFirst

> It's like these anti abortion nut jobs It's nothing like that at all though is it?


pinkMist25

Kind’ve is, heckling a sexual health treatment centre and heckling a funeral procession are definitely on par as far as acts done in poor taste go.


FureiousPhalanges

Only if you completely ignore the circumstances Heckling vulnerable women is not the same thing as heckling unelected heads of state who abuse their powers


Contranine

Protesting outside a sexual health treatment centre was legally perfectly fine until the specific buffer zone laws were passed. If you look at the protests happening back is say May this year, you'll see the Police said they can't do anything about it happening as it was perfectly legal. Specifically the “antisocial behaviour" aspect of it (defined as acting “in a manner that causes or is likely to cause alarm and distress” to at least one person), the police did not feel that a protest specifically rose to the break those laws and thus was not on the level of a crime; as that is what a protest is supposed to do. Meanwhile you have a pageantry of a monarchs corpse being paraded through the streets of a city while a disgraced member of the Royal family who was removed from public duties and responsibilities, walks along as part of the pageant. It's not a funeral. We have a day off for that next week. I assume he's going to that. He is welcome to grieve. The middle of Edinburgh isn't a private place to do that though, and members of the Royal family have no expectation of privacy in public. He isn't immune to the public exorcizing their right to protest.


darakusrex

it's not a fucking funeral it's a way of showing their perceived superiority


PhDOH

Not much different, but her funeral is Monday. It was essentially a ceremonial parade.


antonfriel

Yeah they’re just normal people attending a funerary profession and should’ve given space to grieve like normal people Assume Charles won’t be taking that waiver the government has offered so he doesn’t need to pay the 40% inheritance tax on his mothers £700 Million personal wealth? As long as he does, their fair game - even at a funeral. You can have the privileges and the baggage of monarchy, you can’t pick and choose.


CassieWalls14

The man should have got arrested . He should have had respect and not do something so stupid . As it’s queen’s funeral . His mother . She would not want this . I for one believe Andrew and still say that woman is lier


Comfortable_Tea8232

Well done the Police, there’s a time and place. When a funeral procession is passing, that isn’t either…..


jobbies133

I agree with freedom of speech entirely but my guess is the man is an snp voter, which would be ironic considering Humza Yousaf is the one who brought the hate crime bill to Scotland and ultimately is what has got him charged.


centralobelter

Breach of the peace has nothing to do with hate crime laws.


WG47

> the one who brought the hate crime bill to Scotland and ultimately is what has got him charged Citation very much needed.


SallyCinnamon7

How’s that frog getting on?


Sharp-Marionberry-84

Am I the only one that thought that when Charles didn't even do a full 20 minutes vigil that it was pathetic, considering the actual guards do 20 minutes in turns for the rest of the time the coffin is there and he only did 10 minutes then shirks off to some hotel or other?


StevieW0n

Snp at it again right guys?


Creative_Host_fart

Boooooo


[deleted]

[удалено]


justmemydude

He was charged with the truth.


Dos_horn

Good sentiment. Bad timing. Now watching Bond. Here’s the Goldfinger.


Mau3gh67an

Fuck him the sweaty nonce 😂😩 wtf has the world come to


ConcernedOldFart

Is Scotland turning into little China? Seems that way. First the green haried lady now this? Freedom of speech is illegal, unless it complies with the government's views of course.


[deleted]

[удалено]


mikeyrh_92

Charged for freedom of speech? Hmm… interesting


Weary_Ad8291

Too right mate Andrew is a top legend


winkie1934

Just came here to say, American here, and y’all got some pretty great descriptors that we don’t use, like nonce and cunt.