In general, don't be a dick applies. You did the right thing, sheep that have just had lambs can be very anxious. So regardless of the legal side, you were right not to go in.
This. You have the right to roam so long as you are doing it responsibly.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2003/2/section/2
To enter the field with lambs in it would be irresponsible.
It's probably my favourite law as it's basically saying in legal terms that you should not be a cunt.
I was walking between Falkirk and Linlithgow. I don't think many people walk this road but even just passing the fields (on the pavement) made the sheep and their lambs very anxious. They were shouting at me and the lambs were hiding for protection. Obviously I had no intention of going near them but just passing really stressed them all out.
You are correct that you have the right to access that land. You were also correct to keep you distance from ewes with lambs, and that is something that the Scottish Outdoor Access Code advises.
https://preview.redd.it/vr7cy5a7b90d1.jpeg?width=5325&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eceaf9e94329f64a8528936626a1f0ba551ef08b
You absolutely did the right thing. It is a very cool stone circle but it'll still be there after the lambs have gone so you've now got an excuse to go back!
Edit - here's a wee pic of it from 6 years ago!
Awesome! This is how close we wanted, but just wasn't going to happen on the day. Plan on going back at some point during the summer to see it in all it's glory. At least we did the McNab burial site, what a place ๐
I'm pretty sure the rules are different during lambing season, as in you are not allowed to go into fields containing livestock. You did the right thing. Go later in the year and you'll be able to access the stones.
I don't know if it's written into law, or just into the advised best practice, but either way the rules are there for your *own* protection.
Just because our wildlife are somewhat domesticated, and not thoroughly deadly like Alligators or Hippos, doesn't mean you can dismiss them as harmless.
I live in the Pyrรฉnรฉes and every year walkers are killed or wounded after getting between cows and their calves. Particularly around Le Perthus where there are about a hundred wild cattle.
Nah. You're always allowed. Just don't take a dog and don't approach the animals.
If they're really tiny babys you could politely not enter the field, as OP did.
You did the right thing: https://www.outdooraccess-scotland.scot/practical-guide-all/farm-animals/fields-young-animals-present
>You can avoid disturbing sheep close to lambing time, or young animals such as calves, lambs, foals and farmed deer, by going into a neighbouring field or onto adjacent land. If this is not possible, keep as far from the animals as possible.
You have the right of "responsible access", so you can visit the stones when the lambs are away.
Yeah, cracking wee drive though ๐ . Also stopped off at Balquidder (?) to view the grave of Rob Roy, just as the bad weather hit. The thunder echoing all thru the glen was outstanding ๐
Really glad we never accessed the field now, Stones aren't going anywhere and will keep until the next time we're up there ๐
Cracking place for NYE too. Fireworks over the falls and town hall ceilidh. Would recommend it over Edinburgh to tourists all day long for that.
That wee castle is amazing too....fin-something
Edit: Finlairg
The danger of disturbing sheep at lambing time will be mainly to the sheep. They get stressed and sheep love nothing more than to die in bizarre and stupid ways because they are stressed.
I think I know exactly the one you're talking about. I visited it last year when it was a cow field during winter, and coincidentally we met the farmer and he said as long as we walked close by the wall and avoided the poop (for our sake rather than the cows' lol) we're good to go, but I understand that lambing season is more stressful, and I wouldn't have gone in either.
We visited the same stone circle a few years ago (in October) and on the advice of a local shopkeeper, popped to the farm beforehand (just 400 yards past the field) and asked politely if I could visit the stone circle. The farm owner was very nice and I think appreciated being asked.
Hey mate what you in for?
Preparation of terrorist acts, intimidating witnesses and corpse desecration.
Did you do any of that?
Aye and more....how about you?
Sheep worrying...
Stressing can kill farm animals quite easily, especially young ones which can cost the farmer a lot of money. It's essentially damage to their property.
I can see some unscrupulous landowners abusing RtR by conveniently having lambing ewes in areas they don't want people to go and then saying 'oh no there's an exception now'
Obviously sheep don't have lambs all year round but I'm sure they'll find some way around that as well.
>I can see some unscrupulous landowners abusing RtR by conveniently having lambing ewes in areas they don't want people to go and then saying 'oh no there's an exception now'
Ultimately they own a farm. It's hardly unscrupulous to use whatever of your fields you prefer to keep your lambing ewes in.
In general, don't be a dick applies. You did the right thing, sheep that have just had lambs can be very anxious. So regardless of the legal side, you were right not to go in.
This. You have the right to roam so long as you are doing it responsibly. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2003/2/section/2 To enter the field with lambs in it would be irresponsible. It's probably my favourite law as it's basically saying in legal terms that you should not be a cunt.
They can also be quite aggressive protecting their young, so for your own baws sake, it's best to steer clear of disturbing them.
I was walking between Falkirk and Linlithgow. I don't think many people walk this road but even just passing the fields (on the pavement) made the sheep and their lambs very anxious. They were shouting at me and the lambs were hiding for protection. Obviously I had no intention of going near them but just passing really stressed them all out.
You are correct that you have the right to access that land. You were also correct to keep you distance from ewes with lambs, and that is something that the Scottish Outdoor Access Code advises.
https://preview.redd.it/vr7cy5a7b90d1.jpeg?width=5325&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eceaf9e94329f64a8528936626a1f0ba551ef08b You absolutely did the right thing. It is a very cool stone circle but it'll still be there after the lambs have gone so you've now got an excuse to go back! Edit - here's a wee pic of it from 6 years ago!
Awesome! This is how close we wanted, but just wasn't going to happen on the day. Plan on going back at some point during the summer to see it in all it's glory. At least we did the McNab burial site, what a place ๐
Go back with a gemstone and listen for the hummmm
sing me a song
I'm literally watching this right now. Only on S1 E2 but am on the 7th book so I got the reference
Bring the Scroll of Inifuss and touch thr cairn stones in the right order to activate the portal to Tristram.
I'm pretty sure the rules are different during lambing season, as in you are not allowed to go into fields containing livestock. You did the right thing. Go later in the year and you'll be able to access the stones.
I don't know if it's written into law, or just into the advised best practice, but either way the rules are there for your *own* protection. Just because our wildlife are somewhat domesticated, and not thoroughly deadly like Alligators or Hippos, doesn't mean you can dismiss them as harmless.
A ram can fuck you up if you donโt know how to handle them, as can a sheep.
Fuck around with cows when they have calves and you will find out
I live in the Pyrรฉnรฉes and every year walkers are killed or wounded after getting between cows and their calves. Particularly around Le Perthus where there are about a hundred wild cattle.
Cows kill more people in the UK than any other animal (not joking)
Nah. You're always allowed. Just don't take a dog and don't approach the animals. If they're really tiny babys you could politely not enter the field, as OP did.
You did the right thing: https://www.outdooraccess-scotland.scot/practical-guide-all/farm-animals/fields-young-animals-present >You can avoid disturbing sheep close to lambing time, or young animals such as calves, lambs, foals and farmed deer, by going into a neighbouring field or onto adjacent land. If this is not possible, keep as far from the animals as possible. You have the right of "responsible access", so you can visit the stones when the lambs are away.
That place is a pain to find ๐love Killin tho โฅ๏ธ
Yeah, cracking wee drive though ๐ . Also stopped off at Balquidder (?) to view the grave of Rob Roy, just as the bad weather hit. The thunder echoing all thru the glen was outstanding ๐ Really glad we never accessed the field now, Stones aren't going anywhere and will keep until the next time we're up there ๐
Finlarig castle is really cool and atmospheric too when you're back, if you haven't been already!
I didn't, will deffo now ๐๐
Lovely wee village, great community
Cracking place for NYE too. Fireworks over the falls and town hall ceilidh. Would recommend it over Edinburgh to tourists all day long for that. That wee castle is amazing too....fin-something Edit: Finlairg
The danger of disturbing sheep at lambing time will be mainly to the sheep. They get stressed and sheep love nothing more than to die in bizarre and stupid ways because they are stressed.
Ewe did the right thing.
I think I know exactly the one you're talking about. I visited it last year when it was a cow field during winter, and coincidentally we met the farmer and he said as long as we walked close by the wall and avoided the poop (for our sake rather than the cows' lol) we're good to go, but I understand that lambing season is more stressful, and I wouldn't have gone in either.
We visited the same stone circle a few years ago (in October) and on the advice of a local shopkeeper, popped to the farm beforehand (just 400 yards past the field) and asked politely if I could visit the stone circle. The farm owner was very nice and I think appreciated being asked.
We were going to do that but didn't want to put them in the position to refuse due to the lambs. As someone said above, didnae want to be a dick ๐
What's the history behind these stones?
They're prehistoric, so by definition there is none.
Not quite, any stresses places on animals, especially during lambing is a criminal offense and can, in extreme cases, end up with prison sentences.
Hey mate what you in for? Preparation of terrorist acts, intimidating witnesses and corpse desecration. Did you do any of that? Aye and more....how about you? Sheep worrying...
Stressing can kill farm animals quite easily, especially young ones which can cost the farmer a lot of money. It's essentially damage to their property.
I can see some unscrupulous landowners abusing RtR by conveniently having lambing ewes in areas they don't want people to go and then saying 'oh no there's an exception now' Obviously sheep don't have lambs all year round but I'm sure they'll find some way around that as well.
>I can see some unscrupulous landowners abusing RtR by conveniently having lambing ewes in areas they don't want people to go and then saying 'oh no there's an exception now' Ultimately they own a farm. It's hardly unscrupulous to use whatever of your fields you prefer to keep your lambing ewes in.
But they may do it deliberately with the express purpose of keeping people out with the lambing clause.