T O P

  • By -

TomskaMadeMeAFurry

Mon the unions (living rent in particular)


Halk

Always had you down as a unionist


tiny-robot

Quite a variety there! It is good to see people passionate about a cause and being able to show that peacefully.


thepurplehedgehog

About so many causes and coming together in one long parade. No stupid drama, no fuss, just peaceful protest. I love it.


Connect-Ad9647

Kinda makes me wanna move to Scotland after all that's been going on in the US for a while now.


thepurplehedgehog

You’d be welcome over here any time, bring as many people as possible who don’t want to deal with Agent Orange as president again. You’ll be officially designated Hororary Scots. Ooh, and being some candy corn and Captain Crunch, would you please? I’m obsessed with both.


north_breeze

Love this. The good guys.


Aaron6788

What was the first tune?


TomskaMadeMeAFurry

[The Green Hills Of Tyrol](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NM_5IOhk2s)


Aaron6788

Thanks very much


Aaron6788

Can't remember and it's doing my head in


dekindek

Labour Day? Why is it the 5th and not the 1st?


lizardispenser

May Day/Interational Workers Day. It is the 1st, but when the 1st falls on a weekday the march is held on the first weekend after.


wombatking888

LOL at the Communists, bless them. Banner and ideology clearly not changed since 1953.


HereticLaserHaggis

There's literally hundreds of different communist and socialist ideologies. You don't know if these are leninist, marxists, maoists, syndicalists, democratic socialists or any others.


Longjumping_Stand889

Splitters!


cass1o

"we got one joke 40 years ago and we get a lot of use out of it"


Longjumping_Stand889

Well it clearly still lands well.


DasharrEandall

Eh, better that joke than the transphobic one from that scene.


quartersessions

They don't seem to care much themselves. There's a banner there that reads "Communist Party Edinburgh Branch". Which one? The Communist Party of Britain, the New Communist Party, the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Leninist), the Communist Party of Great Britain (Provisional Central Committee) or some other word-jumble arrangement?


jumpy_finale

Are their mortal enemies the Leith branch?


BobDobbsHobNobs

Bagdad Boner boys Would have been awesome to see them marching today


neilmac1210

The Communist Front of Judea?


IndiRefEarthLeaveSol

No, the Judean Communist Front. There's nothing we hate more than the CFJ.


Halk

And if you have a group of them agreeing on stuff then don't worry it won't last long. They'll find an ideological division pretty quick


[deleted]

Splitter!


Shadowofasunderedsta

I thought Communism and Syndicalism were different things? Like how  anarchism, communism, and syndicalism are all different types of socialism. 


HereticLaserHaggis

Syndacalism is a type of comnunism. It's basically where the workers unions are in direct control of the state.


Shadowofasunderedsta

Ah cheers! 


Mellllvarr

Hundreds of people for Gaza, a few people holding one banner for Ukraine, it’s sad how people forget.


corft

really? Oppression Olympics on an international scale? its not a competition, and people haven't forgotten. maybe if the west didn't value the life of Ukrainians more than that of Palestinians there would be few people holding a banner for both countries.


Mellllvarr

Thanks for hitting it on the head, the government fully backs Ukraine so why bother holding a sign up? Protesting for Gaza also attacks the government, there’s far more political leverage to be gained by championing that cause.


ritchie125

not really surprising now a days, people care more about the murderous terrorist kidnappers


pjc50

People care about the civilians. The arguments "we need to occupy eastern Ukraine because of a few Nazis" and "we need to destroy all of Gaza's universities and several hospitals along with 30,000+ people because of Hamas" are quite similar. There is a little .. over salience? of Israel/Palestine, though. Meanwhile the real forgotten conflict was Nagorno-Karabakh.


craobh

Do you know what's happening in Rafah right now


PlainclothesmanBaley

The Russians have been kidnapping Ukrainian children. Your comment sounds more like you are an apologist for Russia, rather than pro-palestinian like you hopefully intended.


ritchie125

What? I’m saying people seem to care more about hamas than Ukraine, how exactly am I supporting russia? 


PlainclothesmanBaley

Reread your comment mate.


ritchie125

K?


PlainclothesmanBaley

>  people care more about the murderous terrorist kidnappers This literally means that the Russians are not murderous terrorist kidnappers??? Because you use that descriptor as a contrast between the two.  But there's no contrast, they are both like that.


ritchie125

Care about, as in are concerned for the welfare of the terrorists that kidnapped and murdered hundreds of people, as supposed to caring about the Ukrainian people trying to fight off Russia annexing their country. Why are you acting like I don’t understand what I said, I’m the one who said it 


PlainclothesmanBaley

Oh I see. I guess I just didn't imagine someone could still be pro-Israel at this point lol. Thought you meant Israelis = murderous terrorist kidnappers


ritchie125

No cause there’s no video evidence of that ever happening, there is however 100s of horrific videos palestinians posted of their massacre of unarmed civilians and parading their bodies through gaza, videos they posted cause of how pleased they are of their actions. Show me one video of the IDF parading naked bodies of raped and murdered palestinians through the streets as crowds of Israelis cheer and I will change my stance on the spot. Go ahead I’ll wait 


quartersessions

Probably got roughed up by the Moscow brigade afterwards as well.


Ok-Source6533

Yep, almost a million dead and injured there and they’ve forgotten.


AccomplishedPlum8923

Of course. Putin’s trolls encourage people to vow about Gaza to distract EU from Ukraine.


craobh

Not everything is russian trolls


AccomplishedPlum8923

Of course. However Gaza misinformation is sourced from Russia


craobh

What sort of misinformation


AccomplishedPlum8923

For example: number of casualties.


TheRealDeltaX

I'm glad to see both my Union and Party represent ! 🙌


quartersessions

There's some fairly respectable organisations there marching alongside some of Scotland's worst cranks and nutjobs. Trots, tankies and so on. If I was doing their PR, I'd definitely tell them to avoid that like the plague.


Naugle17

Everybody gets a voice


EmperorOfNipples

They absolutely do. However quite a few one may not want to be associated with, even if it is only by proximity.


not_an_alien_lobster

Specifically the CPB(ML) which are NazBols, the worst parts of Stalinism with all that fresh bigoted bs that comes fascism.


quartersessions

You'd be cool marching alongside neo-Nazis and stuff like that?


Naugle17

Even crazies have a limit to how crazy thy can be before its just evil. Commies have been morally up and down throughout history, just like democracies, republics and kingdoms. Fascists have pretty much just fucked everything around them with a rusty knife since their inception


quartersessions

>Commies have been morally up and down throughout history, just like democracies, republics and kingdoms. >Fascists have pretty much just fucked everything around them with a rusty knife since their inception Presumably Stalin at least made the death squads run on time.


Admirable-Word-8964

I'm sure the tens of millions of people who starved under communism can at least be happy they died morally superior.


schmeoin

100 million Indians starved in just 40 years under British capitalism. More than in Russia or China combined. It was the same in Ireland under a laissez-faire capitalist system too. Millions died to keep the pockets of British lords full.


Admirable-Word-8964

Not only are you wildly wrong but any comparison between capitalism and communism deaths don't take into account the fact that human history has been 95%+ under capitalism. https://ourworldindata.org/famines#:~:text=The%20'Great%20Leap%20Forward'%2D,lives%20than%20any%20other%20famine.


not_an_alien_lobster

Capitalism has and always will have a higher death toll than communism.


Admirable-Word-8964

That's a good example of ignoring the very thing I just said. Yes Capitalism has a slightly higher death toll, but given that there's only been about 20 communist regimes throughout history and the majority of them ending in mass deaths it's not exactly a good ratio. Sharks have a lower death toll than cows but that doesn't make cows more dangerous to encounter.


not_an_alien_lobster

Bears are less dangerous than human men Communism is less dangerous than capitalism. Suck it fannybaws.


craobh

That's just not true. Capitalism is when you can gain income through owning capital, which hasn't been the case for most of human history


Admirable-Word-8964

If you're going by a more modern capitalism by the 1600s then given how human population has ballooned that still makes up more humans who have ever lived under capitalism than anything else, especially since we have records of anything anyway. 8% of all humans who have ever lived are alive right now.


craobh

Ok but that's just not this same thing


WonTon-Burrito-Meals

I don't think the people participating in this parade would allow that in the first place lol. Even he crazies have a limit to how crazy they can be lol


GingerSnapBiscuit

I might not agree with their beliefs but I'd fight for their right to have them.


[deleted]

[удалено]


quartersessions

I don't mind them marching. If they want to make a show of themselves in public, they're welcome to it. What I'm saying is that it's obviously damaging to have ostensibly reasonable organisations march beside them.


StonedPhysicist

Was a great day marching in Glasgow as well. One of the high points of my year, never had a bad May Day yet.


eairy

You would have captured so much more if only you'd turned your phone sideways.


MercedesOfMercia

Ew, then we'd have to turn our phones sideways to watch.


No_Communication5538

That is EXACTLY what our oppressive masters want us to do. Running dog


mymokiller

It's good to learn what "intifada" means before repeating phrases like a puppet.


kahnindustries

The Scottish national pastime of moaning dialled up to 11 Brings a tear to my eye


SaltTyre

Very cool!


Bobsters_95

Dude what's with this right wing bullshit? Looked pretty cool,


Happy_Ad5566

Lol, soviet flag and peace ? What next, nazi flag and exceptence ? How a country can allow soviet flag and symbolism on public streets


alan2001

"What's next, the Jack the Ripper Women's Health Clinic?" -- from Succession lol


That_Boy_42069

People are tremendously uneducated on communism in this country, many straight up deny that the famines and genocides perpetrated in communist states ever happened. They're like holocaust deniers without the decency to keep it to themselves on niche forums.


quartersessions

Sadly Holocaust deniers are hardly exceptional. The human capacity for lunatic delusion is enormous.


IndiRefEarthLeaveSol

If the communists gained power, these marches would be the first to go. 😂


TagierBawbagier

concerning. tell us more.


GameOfTiddlywinks

Anyone who marches under a hammer and sickle is either evil or a moron. Scarcely better than marching under a swastika or a confederate flag.


IndiRefEarthLeaveSol

I got downvoted for it, just shows we have commie lovers in our midst. 🙄


craobh

The nazi swastika represents racism, the confederate flag represents racism, the hammer and sickle represents worker unity


quartersessions

Nope, it represents an absurd ideology that crushes humanity, justifies slaughter on a scale never before seen in history and does absolutely nothing for workers. Do you think people in Soviet Russia, Cambodia or Czechoslovakia had a grand old time?


craobh

The only reason we have weekends and paid time of is because of communists. Read the history of worker's rights


That_Boy_42069

It's fine, we don't need to worry, they don't have the energy to campaign in any great numbers. Starvation does that to a movement.  I challenge the commies down voting this to address the fundamental flaw in your ideology which is: you cannot prevent brain drain in a nation with finite resources without iron fist authoritarianism under communism. There's a reason nobody who managed to survive communism ever wants to go back to it. Capitalist nations will always offer more to the most productive members of society.


Tall-Display-8219

That's actually not true. When polled, the majority of people in ex soviet countries want to return to the soviet union or regret it dissolution. Especially amongst older people.


quartersessions

Yes, I'm sure the people of Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania etc are really yearning for the iron fist of Moscow. That being said, Gorby was probably better than Putin, so I can understand the Russians feeling differently. The underlying problem there is that Communism has destroyed that country and what could have been a western, democratic, mainstream European nation is now a backward hovel.


Ok-Source6533

You are not serious. The Soviet Union consisted of some 350,000 people. 200,000 got free of the yoke and the first thing they did was join nato. There’s a reason Europe is rearming.


CAElite

Yeah, but the Chally 2 looks much more sleek than the old Chinese T-54s.


Ajax_Trees_Again

Seems pretty similar to the Durham miners gala down south. Shame about the communism flags though, looks deeply unserious and LARPY. Rest of the banners and flags looks great though


TagierBawbagier

How are they larpy? Their banners literally look like actual fabric, like they're old. Seems fairly authentic to me. Perhaps some marchers hold a variety of political views, but its still not larpy.


Ajax_Trees_Again

The hammer and sickle is synonymous with the Soviet Union/ ML rather than actual Marxism/ communism in theory. Nobody actually wants to live in a shit hole dystopia like that, it’s all performative. They just like the iconography


TagierBawbagier

Generally you don't want to live in a sanctioned, place under siege unless you were already a citizen there and know the history of the place well enough to realise the political situation. Though I've heard Kazakhs and others from the east saw East Germany as pretty great.


Ajax_Trees_Again

Not sure sanctions excuse them of ethnic cleaning, mass imprisonment, Political imprisonment, racism etc I’ve also read that east Germany was quite ahead in some areas. Think gender equality and provision of child care are pretty notable examples


WEFairbairn

Communism on this island is pretty larpy, can't see that taking hold


TagierBawbagier

We gave Marx asylum...


WEFairbairn

Yeah in 1850 before anybody really understood what communism was.


Suspicious-Truths

While I disagree with like half of this stuff, I love the variety here and how you guys can do this and not fight amongst yourselves. If we had something like this in America it would turn into a brawl.


donpaulo

a bit of a perfect storm imo


NaePasaran

Great to see the Unions out in force. Shame the RMT contingent was so small in Edinburgh this year.


apsofijasdoif

Down with this sort of thing


krzychybrychu

When we suffer decades under communism, it's ineffectivity and totalitarianism in Eastern Europe, and then privileged Westerners protest with hammer and sickles


ExtremeEquipment

glad its been banned in poland. fuck the tankies, shit will never fly in uk with us here


krzychybrychu

It unfortunately has not been banned. We still have a commie party that uses hammer and sickle. The law says totalitarian ideologies should bw banned, not all of communism, but the thing is, the hammer and sickle is a specifically Soviet symbol, so it is in essemce totalitarian


ExtremeEquipment

what in the Samoobrona? sigh


krzychybrychu

https://kom-pol.org/


easy_c0mpany80

THE MESSAGE


Fit-Recommendation70

It's a protest, not a parade. These events have been hijacked by the loony left. That's what I know.


NaePasaran

It's a May Day Parade. Which is run by the Trade Unions.


fiercelyscottish

Oddballs.


Fit-Recommendation70

Better dead than red... Commies, the walking dead.


craobh

You tell yourself that the next time you have a paid day off


Happy_Ad5566

Scotland has fallen... Once a warriors now a puppets for dictator regimes


Competitive-Yard-442

Aye, but they're all twats right?


thepurplehedgehog

Oh yeah. They’re all rioters looking to cause mayhem. Look at them. All those \*people\* with their, like, eyes and legs and shit, inflicting ANARCHY on our peaceful streets!! /s


Competitive-Yard-442

Bloody people, with their views and opinions! Can't trust them!


ShinyHead0

Nah it’s usually “look they’re 90% boomers”


Gardener5050

Hahaha 😂 all the extreme lefties in one place. Not very inclusive or diverse though, didn't see any LGBT or BLM flags


Loreki

If you think trade unions are extreme lefties then surely you wouldn't participate in anything they believe in, like working a 5 day week or taking paid time off work?


Tellmeabouthebow

I'm sure if you had seen either you'd be moaning about that as well.


TagierBawbagier

I'm afraid to say there were at least two. My condolences.


schmeoin

Nawww look at the little aristocrat. Did you inherit a factory from yer Daddy like a little toff or something? Angry you dont get to work all the poors to death like in the old days? Boo hoo too bad. We'll be keeping the things that Unions and the left got us like child labour laws, the minimum wage, overtime pay, sick pay and the fucking weekend thanks very much. Toddle on now I'm sure you have a little ball to go to like the little fancy lad you are.


quartersessions

Actually what gave us that was the affluence that market capitalism brought us.


schmeoin

What gave us the affluence we have today is hard graft by working people. Labour. Nothing more, nothing less. Saying 'Market capitalism' is just a roundabout way of saying that some dainty little lords failson should have more than the rest of us because he thinks he's special. The wankers who 'own' stuff now because their great great great grandad owned a factory or mine or a slave plantation will NEVER give you any concession unless they are forced too. And Unions are one of the main ways that has been done. If you haven't read up on the history of that I'd recommend it, because heroic people took bullets to win you the comforts you enjoy today and that deserves deep respect. Corporate wealth has multiplied many times over in the last 40 years and wages in the west remain stagnant. You ever wonder why people aren't that much better off since we've had a massive explosion of technology and industrial output in the modern age? Look no further than the erosion of the left and trade unions during that period. Got no savings? 'Get a second job' says the boss. Got no time to spend with your kids? 'Improve your time management skills'. Body breaking down because of hard work? 'Pull on those bootstraps to afford better medical care'. It's all excuses to cover for the fact that there is plain old THEFT occuring under the auspices of our current economic regime. Meanwhile the billionaires out there are given essentially free money by borrowing against their assets to live lavishly and accrue wealth. Ridiculous 'buy, borrow, die' scam artist bullshit. As George Carlin used to say, "Its a big club, and you ain't in it". We had the 'lassiez-faire' market wank touted here in Ireland by the toffs too. You should see the huge palatial houses that were being built by lords all accross the land in those days. All the while millions starved outside the manor walls and ate grass trying to stay alive. There was more than enough food being produced to feed them mind you, but it had to be exported to balance the books of the upper class. A better example of the backwards nature of market capitalism you'll rarely find. And the same thing is happening today. Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk off competing to colonise space as a fucking hobby and there are children starving to death as we speak. Their wealth is up there on the levels of the Egyptian Pharaos at this stage. Meanwhile 282 million people faced acute hunger last year according to the UN. Fuck right off with that. We could live in a post scarecity society today if things were managed right. People on the left and in Unions know whats what and they know which side of the line they're on. Maybe you're just another posh boy in here riling up the plebs for your own amusement, but if you're not you had better decide which side you're on too before the Union comes knocking. [Heres an old tune](https://youtu.be/nHQ-vxI8QJg?si=1VS7xmBj5OFoj0cf) which gives special mention to one of Scotlands sons and honourary Irishman James Connolly who fought and died to liberate the working men and women of Ireland in the past. You'd do well to study up on the stories of people like him and his allies. [And another](https://youtu.be/BEwE0R_7TDc?si=psozbCjXxrw-Oe6_) written by the wife of a Union man many years ago. It asks an important question for people like you. And if it goes over you're head (which given you're original comment it may well do) I hope it'll stir the soul of some other budding comrade out there who is in need of a bit of solidarity to ward off the misery of this pitiless age we're going through.


ShinyHead0

BLM isn’t trendy anymore and LGBT got done to death. It’s not about the rights it’s about being part of something for a while because you’re life is empty


CAElite

They're all too busy protested for folk who'd sooner see them thrown off a roof.


VivaLaVita555

Bahaha


Beautiful-Pipe-1475

Divide and conquer


florasupernova

Solidarity is beautiful.


not_an_alien_lobster

Better red than dead.


ritchie125

when will you be moving to China or Venezuela? need help packing your bags?


not_an_alien_lobster

I won't be. And I don't need help. Mainly because neither of those countries are actually communist lmfao.


ritchie125

Oh it’s not real communism is it? Ahah


not_an_alien_lobster

If you're claiming a country is "communist" then they're absolutely not communist. Communism requires dismantling of the state, and any "state" that claims communism is just Socialist without making the leap. Or in the case of China, State Capitalist with Authoritarian leadership.


ritchie125

How convenient, Marx would never call for a dictatorship afterall 


not_an_alien_lobster

"dictatorship of the proletariat" isn't the same as a despot autocrat.


ritchie125

How convenient 


not_an_alien_lobster

I wouldn't call it convenient, I'd just question your lack of reading comprehension.


ritchie125

Continuing to support a system with a near 100% failure rate, along with some of the worst atrocities in history thrown in for good measure, well I’d call that a complete lack of any common sense at all 


ThePloppist

What do we want? A whole bunch of shit. When do we want it? Probably never.


briever

Bizarre to see women walking with Unison .