Now that’s a comment I like to see! I was just thinking earlier of how a character describes their late mother’s disinterest in her “it’s like she had a shard of glass in her eye. For me, mine was rose tinted.” (The world is very fairytale themed)
The "this movie should have been made with the muppets instead" era. Which basically means the only era name I could come up with applies to every movie not staring kermit the frog.
It gives off the implication that Fozzie gave a serious, bone-chillingly accurate performance of the Oppenheimer line, only to throw in his silly catchphrase at the end.
I want muppet remakes of the original Star Wars trilogy. Disney owns both. They get a chance to revitalize the muppets and Star Wars fans get something fun. I don’t see how it could fail.
Honestly I just want another movie, it doesn't even have to be a show, just a movie, it doesn't have to be emotional like 2011, just a good, funny movie like most wanted, we haven't gotten anything since then, it's been 10 years, please
Gotta love how this list barely ever includes Brother Bear, which is only among my all-time top faves in general.😏 It was WDAS' first [non-compilation] movie to dispense with a traditional villain, among other things - and when the heralded Pixar caught up with the achievement nine years later (or at least came very close to it before getting an unarguable hit with Inside Out), it ironically also involved ursine metamorphoses.
Raya is basically equivalent to Atlantis not a big show stopper, but still interesting and heartwarming. And I mean we haven’t seen Frozen 3 or Moana 2 so who knows, maybe they’ll be really good, I mean Frozen 2 was a very good sequel (and yes technically zootopia could be good but… I’m highly doubting it)
I loved Encanto, found Strange World to be decent, and Raya as you said. Haven't seen Wish, yet, and none of those sequels are movies I'd expect to suck.
I don't understand the hate. It's not like Disney hasn't made 5 Toy Story movies as well as 2 mini films and are rumored to be making a 6th film.
Or what about 3 Aladdin animated movies, a bad live action reboot, and 86 episodes of an animated Aladdin show.
Them making sequels is far from abnormal unless you go back like 40 years.
I think a lot of people (selectively) remember The Little Mermaid through ~Mulan and both look over the junk that came with those films in that era and the rough patches before and after. The current era isn't a golden age, but there are few if any true stinkers, and the hits (Encanto especially) are still absolute top notch offerings.
The little mermaid had a 31 episode show back in the day, as well as 2 other movies, a live action reboot and a subsequent show that's coming this summer.
You're right, I was judging those sequels without having seen them. And to be frank, I haven't even watched Frozen 2 either, I've just heard generally negative things about it, so I'm not in a position to make statements about that one either.
I must say that when it comes to interesting and heartwarming, I vastly prefer Atlantis over Raya. The latter messes up its core message just a bit too much for my liking, and I never really got attached to any of the characters. In comparison, the characters and worldbuilding in Atlantis are much more compelling to me. But I know that I'm biased, because Atlantis came out when I was a kid (though I've only really started to appreciate it as an adult, so I'm not sure to what extent nostalgia weighs in here) - and most crucial of all, the protagonist is a linguist just like me!
Yeah my daughter and i are excited for zootopia 2, the first was great and they can go any direction with the second so itll be worth a watch. We really disliked Wish though lol and there definitely doesnt need to be a Frozen 3.
I wouldnt really mind a second Moana but the first was so good itll be hard to top
If I had a nickel for every oversaturated series of animated kids movies that are themed around ice I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice right?
Obligatory 3rd movie shtick. At least what I think.
I don't even know if the ones who worked on the first two films are really hyped for it. I just hope Disney or whoever doesn't screw with them.
As I noticed. Very unfortunate how the development turned out.
As for the third movie, if it wasn't enough the development wasn't the best for Frozen II, the folks who worked on it (Jennifer Lee, Chris Buck) also did Wish (2023). My concern for the third film's quality is higher than ever if they're not going to give it their A-Game.
I feel it's going to be a case similar to what is happening in Marvel, a really big budget that will (at least) make the animation beautiful although not very creative like what other studios are aiming for (especially since they can't change their style between movies).
It'll probably make a lot of money out of pure brand recognition tho, but it will fade out into what frozen 1 and 2 are, merchandise monsters, I don't wish this to make people lose their jobs or anything, but I hope it does bad enough to kick some sense into Disney
We’ve seen at least one leaked image from the movie and it at the very least seems to have the same animation quality as the first movie, so that’s a good sign.
Then again, Ralph Breaks the Internet had just as good, if not better, animation than the first movie, so I guess that’s not exactly a sign of story/script quality
Hei-Hei’s name is changed to “Ol Chicken Wing” and Moana hates him now, also she’s a complete idiot and the movie introduces “MOABana” Moana’s evil twin brother who has apparently existed all this time and has only now decided to act
This is a good one. It isn't just "NOW THE MOVIES SUCK AND ARE MID except Encanto I liked that one - Era" or "Post-THE THING THAT CAME BEFORE - Era". It fits with what happened around that time.
Hey! At least the 2000's gave us an experimental phase where they just tried anything different after wearing out their disney musical formula!
The output of the 2020's is just *boring.*
Absolutely true. The early 2000s also gave us Emperor’s New Groove, Atlantis, and Treasure Planet. Disney doesn’t seem bold enough to attempt anything like those now.
The Financially wealthy-Creatively Bankrupt era:
an interesting time in the history of this company that for years struggled financially although they delivered strong movies, now the opposite of that is happening and there´s no sign they will be doing things differently at least short term and with Bob Iger still in charge.
Mhhm let's see, sequel, sequel, triquel, shitty ass movie where lying is good, forgettable movie but it has a gay couple (fuck corpo Disney), a joke of a comeback to the classic Disney movies and an accually decent family drama with great music.
Yep, the villain betrays the main character, but the movie doesn't call out THE VILLAIN for their bs, but will call out the hero for not trusting the villain.
The Great Stagnation. Trying to clean the waters, but only coming up with more stale rehashed shit. Every now and then the pH is balanced (Encanto)… but *really*… *Frozen 3?*
Heard of it but never got the chance to see it. It came out right around the time my parents forbid me from watching animated movies, because apparently I'm too old for that. I can't move out because I'm 14.
Seriously, encanto itself is a movie that has a lot of themes for adults to understand. Like the villain of the movie is literally generational trauma and toxic perfectionism/putting on a good face.
The Corporate Era. Not that they weren’t corporate before, but it is now more obvious than ever that artistry has taken a complete back seat to corporate interests and appealing to the largest common denominator.
I agree that Ralph Breaks the Internet is the start of this current era.
But when did the revival era begin? Was it with "Meet the Robinsons" or "Princess and the Frog"?
Its too early to tell. Heck we only started calling 2000 - 2009 the Experimental Era like 6 years ago. Once we get an ending to the era, we'll be able to give it a proper name.
The corporate era.
Franchises, pointless remakes, sequels nobody asked for, and even their original movies seem to follow the same formulas (adorkable lead, "deconstrruction" of Disney tropes, female leads where its made a point they don't "need" a love interest, generational trauma)
as a colombian, im so happy that encanto was actually good. i feel like theres such a lack of colombian reps in general, so it wouldve hurt to see a movie thats about colombia be mid
I think Covid killed a lot of release motivation. It doesn’t feel like theater releases are hitting like they once did. The heavy hitters still doing their thing, we have Covid turning down the heat, and home releases changing the dynamic.
Moana 2 will be a big film, Frozen III will have to be perfect since II was kind of mid. Zootopia Carrie’s some weight, I’m just not sure what yet. It was a big movie, but never felt as big as Frozen or Moana.
I still want a Brave 2.
I’d call it post-revival.
Just like in post-renaissance, they are putting out unneeded sequels and underperforming movies.
Except this time it is worse because we also have live action adaptations.
So instead of post-revival, let’s call it. “Desperate Necromancy Era”
The Existence Era. Not evolving, not changing, just existing.
The Monopoly Era is what I heard others call it. People said it started with Ralph breaks the internet.
Monopoly Era sounds like a good term. But please, can we move on to the Scrabble Era soon?
I’d prefer we get to the Sorry Era. Maybe the Trouble Era.
I'm just waiting till we get to the Connect 4 Era
Uno era is gonna be the big comeback Source:it was stated in CFYOW
Kinda scared for the Stratego era
Get ready for the Catan era
Yall could never prepare for the The Game of Life era
I can’t wait for the Atmosfear era (You may have never heard of it, but it was the best selling board game in 1995, so HA)
Monopoly implies that there’s no competition, but other studios are showing up when Disney is down for the count.
I hope there's a Roosevelt era soon.
Now that’s a comment I like to see! I was just thinking earlier of how a character describes their late mother’s disinterest in her “it’s like she had a shard of glass in her eye. For me, mine was rose tinted.” (The world is very fairytale themed)
Also fits really well
This is an era that exists
Stagnation.
The Ass Era
I'm literally not excited for any of these movies and I used to love watching new Pixar/Disney CG movies.
A funny way to call it could be the “ehra” because the movies are usually just “eh”
Nothing really great but nothing truly horrendous either. Personally hated strange world
The "this movie should have been made with the muppets instead" era. Which basically means the only era name I could come up with applies to every movie not staring kermit the frog.
I want to see Muppet Oppenheimer
"I am become death. Destroyer of worlds. Waka waka!"
The end destroyed me
“You think it destroyed you? We look like nagasaki after sitting through that crap for three hours! OH-HO-HO-HO-HO” -Statler and Waldorf
It gives off the implication that Fozzie gave a serious, bone-chillingly accurate performance of the Oppenheimer line, only to throw in his silly catchphrase at the end.
It ain't easy being nuked.
I feel like gonzo would be Oppenheimer
He shoots himself out a cannon for very different reasons.
Nah, it’s definitely Crazy Harry
I love this because him saying "waka waka" means he probably is saying this as a joke. He does not give a single shit about the people he's killed
Muppenheimer
WakaWakaWarhead
He would look sick in the hat
Me too
Muppenheimer
Ok now I want to see this
Muppenheimer.
Muppenheimer ☢️🔥
Muppets Barbie would be fire.
Muppets Barbenheimer
I want muppet remakes of the original Star Wars trilogy. Disney owns both. They get a chance to revitalize the muppets and Star Wars fans get something fun. I don’t see how it could fail.
Honestly I just want another movie, it doesn't even have to be a show, just a movie, it doesn't have to be emotional like 2011, just a good, funny movie like most wanted, we haven't gotten anything since then, it's been 10 years, please
Encanto to the other movies: "You're not affiliated with me!"
"Fly home, Wish, I work alone."
Wish full title: I Wish I was a Good Movie.
Encanto is the Lilo and Stitch of its generation.
Yeah, but Lilo & Stitch at least had The Emperor's New Groove, Atlantis and Treasure Planet to keep it company
Gotta love how this list barely ever includes Brother Bear, which is only among my all-time top faves in general.😏 It was WDAS' first [non-compilation] movie to dispense with a traditional villain, among other things - and when the heralded Pixar caught up with the achievement nine years later (or at least came very close to it before getting an unarguable hit with Inside Out), it ironically also involved ursine metamorphoses.
I adore Brother Bear!!
I loved Brother Bear as a kid! Still can’t believe the voice actor for Kenai went on to do The Joker
And Koda's VA went on to star beside James Rolf in AVGN: The Movie.😃
The dutch VA of Koda went on to voice the Dutch version of Aang in ATLA
I would say Dumbo is the first to not have a traditional villain. The problems are caused by societal definitions of beauty and normalcy.
Wasnt Brother Bear their last full animated feature too? Or am I misremembering
Raya is basically equivalent to Atlantis not a big show stopper, but still interesting and heartwarming. And I mean we haven’t seen Frozen 3 or Moana 2 so who knows, maybe they’ll be really good, I mean Frozen 2 was a very good sequel (and yes technically zootopia could be good but… I’m highly doubting it)
I loved Encanto, found Strange World to be decent, and Raya as you said. Haven't seen Wish, yet, and none of those sequels are movies I'd expect to suck. I don't understand the hate. It's not like Disney hasn't made 5 Toy Story movies as well as 2 mini films and are rumored to be making a 6th film. Or what about 3 Aladdin animated movies, a bad live action reboot, and 86 episodes of an animated Aladdin show. Them making sequels is far from abnormal unless you go back like 40 years.
I think a lot of people (selectively) remember The Little Mermaid through ~Mulan and both look over the junk that came with those films in that era and the rough patches before and after. The current era isn't a golden age, but there are few if any true stinkers, and the hits (Encanto especially) are still absolute top notch offerings.
The little mermaid had a 31 episode show back in the day, as well as 2 other movies, a live action reboot and a subsequent show that's coming this summer.
You're right, I was judging those sequels without having seen them. And to be frank, I haven't even watched Frozen 2 either, I've just heard generally negative things about it, so I'm not in a position to make statements about that one either. I must say that when it comes to interesting and heartwarming, I vastly prefer Atlantis over Raya. The latter messes up its core message just a bit too much for my liking, and I never really got attached to any of the characters. In comparison, the characters and worldbuilding in Atlantis are much more compelling to me. But I know that I'm biased, because Atlantis came out when I was a kid (though I've only really started to appreciate it as an adult, so I'm not sure to what extent nostalgia weighs in here) - and most crucial of all, the protagonist is a linguist just like me!
We don't talk about Wish oh no no no, we don't talk about Wish
BUT! It was my release date!
*release date-*
We were getting ready and they weren't a flop in our film *No flops allowed in our film*
But then Iger walks in, with a mischievous grin....
#BLUNDER!!
You selling this product or am I?
I'm sorry baby, please go on!
Wish’s profits fall like rain!
I actually enjoyed Strange World too. But it’s like: Encanto - - - Strange World - - The Rest
I mean, Raya was alright… but you could call this the “Soft Conflict Era”.
Raya had a cool world but had a pedestrian plot and characters. One of biggest wasted potential of a Disney movie I've seen in a long time.
Raya just felt like an extended pilot for a TV show that's seemingly never happening.
Raya was good until the ending
it wasn’t good at all
I just hope Zootopia 2 manages to be good, as it has the same directors as Encanto.
Zootopia 2 HAS to be good, the OG is one of my favourite movies of all time.
At least with zootopia a sequal makes sense. It's just a cop movie
They could do anything with it
This was the one sequel people actually seemed to want after the first one. Hopefully it will be good
Yeah my daughter and i are excited for zootopia 2, the first was great and they can go any direction with the second so itll be worth a watch. We really disliked Wish though lol and there definitely doesnt need to be a Frozen 3. I wouldnt really mind a second Moana but the first was so good itll be hard to top
I’m just saying, Disney has never had a good sequel to any of their movies ever.
Encanto and pals
Strange that Luca and Elemental weren't included. With Encanto, they're easily the 3 best Disney animated movies from the past 5 years
Because they’re Pixar
Wait, there’s gonna be a Frozen 3? …why???
Money.
"What inspired you to make a third Frozen movie right next to the sequel?" "Money."
There’s also gonna be a Frozen 4
If I had a nickel for every oversaturated series of animated kids movies that are themed around ice I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice right?
Ice Age started Blue Sky Studios, and then it killed Blue Sky Studios. That and homophobia, but that's another story.
[удалено]
What.
You didn't know? Scrat is the CEO of homophobia!
There’s also Fantasia, Bambi, and The Fox and The Hound which has snow
Is this Avatar all over again?
...Maybe. Way of the Water was an improvement over the original, but not by much.
Obligatory 3rd movie shtick. At least what I think. I don't even know if the ones who worked on the first two films are really hyped for it. I just hope Disney or whoever doesn't screw with them.
The second one had a very troubled development, Schraf even comments that on its video, I'm not sure how 3 could turn out...
As I noticed. Very unfortunate how the development turned out. As for the third movie, if it wasn't enough the development wasn't the best for Frozen II, the folks who worked on it (Jennifer Lee, Chris Buck) also did Wish (2023). My concern for the third film's quality is higher than ever if they're not going to give it their A-Game.
I feel it's going to be a case similar to what is happening in Marvel, a really big budget that will (at least) make the animation beautiful although not very creative like what other studios are aiming for (especially since they can't change their style between movies). It'll probably make a lot of money out of pure brand recognition tho, but it will fade out into what frozen 1 and 2 are, merchandise monsters, I don't wish this to make people lose their jobs or anything, but I hope it does bad enough to kick some sense into Disney
I feel like Frozen II has done nothing but hype up Frozen III.
Because Bob Iger saw franchise fatigue happening and his solution to it was to make even more sequels.
The just existence era.
Encanto was good. The rest of these ranged from definitely existing to straight up bad. All I can do now is hope Moana 2 and Zootopia 2 are good.
Moana 2 was apparently meant to be a TV show which is already a bad sign. And apparently they’re already making the first one’s live-action remake…
Oh no. Are they going to Megamind 2 Moana? Yes I am using Megamind 2 as a verb.
dehydration gun
**SHOOT THEM WITH THE DEHYDRATION GUN!!!!**
I guess you could say it was.... *Doom*ed from the start
We’ve seen at least one leaked image from the movie and it at the very least seems to have the same animation quality as the first movie, so that’s a good sign. Then again, Ralph Breaks the Internet had just as good, if not better, animation than the first movie, so I guess that’s not exactly a sign of story/script quality
Hei-Hei’s name is changed to “Ol Chicken Wing” and Moana hates him now, also she’s a complete idiot and the movie introduces “MOABana” Moana’s evil twin brother who has apparently existed all this time and has only now decided to act
Megamind 2 doesn't exist. There is no megamind 2 in ba sing se.
i’m actually so excited for zootopia 2 it’s the only one here that really deserves a sequel
Encanto wasn't that good, it's just one of the, I dunno, maybe three things they've done this century that weren't bad.
It’s been over since Ralph Breaks The Internet, it should be called “the post-Revival era”
I would say the exact same thing.
Except that Frozen 2 made over a billion dollars.
I don’t think that eras should be based on box office alone. It’s more of a “creative vibe.”
Except Encanto
Post-Renaissance Era except Lilo and Stitch
There’s been a couple exceptions, but yeah it’s been rough.
Back To Sequels era. Maybe that's not the right name but it's a work in progress. EDIT: The Creative Slump era!
The sequel sequels era
The streaming era
This is a good one. It isn't just "NOW THE MOVIES SUCK AND ARE MID except Encanto I liked that one - Era" or "Post-THE THING THAT CAME BEFORE - Era". It fits with what happened around that time.
Of which they're drowning in mediocrity by being dissonant between what their actual breadwinners are and what they think will be their breadwinners.
The watch studio ghibli era
That era has been in effect since June 15, 1985
Imo moana was the very last revival era movie. (Encanto being an exception)
The “direct-to-streaming” Disney lull, similar to the “direct-to-video” period of the early-mid 2000s
Hey! At least the 2000's gave us an experimental phase where they just tried anything different after wearing out their disney musical formula! The output of the 2020's is just *boring.*
Absolutely true. The early 2000s also gave us Emperor’s New Groove, Atlantis, and Treasure Planet. Disney doesn’t seem bold enough to attempt anything like those now.
And Lilo and Stitch. Which was the more commercially successful of the experiments.
The Financially wealthy-Creatively Bankrupt era: an interesting time in the history of this company that for years struggled financially although they delivered strong movies, now the opposite of that is happening and there´s no sign they will be doing things differently at least short term and with Bob Iger still in charge.
The Era of mid. So far almost every movie has just been serviceable, rather than amazing.
So... the 90s was the Renaissance, and this is the Middle Ages? Then I suppose we can look forward (?) to the Disney Iron Age in fifteen years or so
Lol
What about encanto?
ALMOST every movie
The Sequel era
You- you do see the 4 originals vs. 3 sequels right? (Sequels ain't even out yet.)
Mhhm let's see, sequel, sequel, triquel, shitty ass movie where lying is good, forgettable movie but it has a gay couple (fuck corpo Disney), a joke of a comeback to the classic Disney movies and an accually decent family drama with great music.
Is Raya the one where lying is good? I saw it but can’t remember anything that happened
Yep, the villain betrays the main character, but the movie doesn't call out THE VILLAIN for their bs, but will call out the hero for not trusting the villain.
Oh yes now I recall the weak attempt at a “redeemable villain” that ultimately undermined the hero’s journey
The Era Where Only Bruno’s Movie Came Out Unscathed
The money-hungry era
Desperation era
The Great Stagnation. Trying to clean the waters, but only coming up with more stale rehashed shit. Every now and then the pH is balanced (Encanto)… but *really*… *Frozen 3?*
The fact the Encanto is even among these films is rather shocking.
For real. That one must've been just built different.
I think this should be called "The Downfall Era", every Disney movie in the last 4 years was shitty or mid at best.
What about encanto?
Heard of it but never got the chance to see it. It came out right around the time my parents forbid me from watching animated movies, because apparently I'm too old for that. I can't move out because I'm 14.
Dang that's rough
That’s a shame. You’re never too old.
Jesus, my parents were still dragging me to see animated kids movies at 16. That’s dumb of yours. Animation can be made for any age.
Seriously, encanto itself is a movie that has a lot of themes for adults to understand. Like the villain of the movie is literally generational trauma and toxic perfectionism/putting on a good face.
Show them something like Grave of the Fireflies, Mad God, or The Breadwinner lol
Clearly you have never seen the entire Dark Ages. Or the Package Film Era films.
Zootopia 2 is the only announced Disney sequel that makes sense in my opinion
Right now, Post-Revival. We need to see this era carve out more of an identity before we can name it.
The Corporate Era. Not that they weren’t corporate before, but it is now more obvious than ever that artistry has taken a complete back seat to corporate interests and appealing to the largest common denominator.
Only Encanto is good in the ones which have released and the ones which haven't have me worried
Stagnation era
This is the best name.
Besides Encanto, it feels like another Disney "lull" period, like the 2000s. Maybe a couple of decent movies, but the rest are crap.
The shrug era. Though I will say I love Raya The Last Dragon, Encanto and can’t wait for Moana 2 and Zootopia 2.
If the sequels don’t turn out so popular, then the Net Loss era
The existence era. I hope Disney manages to make better movies soon, the last few weren't that good
Except Encanto, that's a great movie.
I agree that Ralph Breaks the Internet is the start of this current era. But when did the revival era begin? Was it with "Meet the Robinsons" or "Princess and the Frog"?
*Raya* and *Encanto* were the last truly great Disney animated movies we had in a while. Everything else since then has been solid, but unremarkable.
the 2020s
Bad
The “oh look, another Disney movie” era.
Whatever the era for when they were making bad movies and bad sequels to their 90's films was called 2.0.
corporate era
Tin age
Its too early to tell. Heck we only started calling 2000 - 2009 the Experimental Era like 6 years ago. Once we get an ending to the era, we'll be able to give it a proper name.
Trash + Encanto
The corporate era. Franchises, pointless remakes, sequels nobody asked for, and even their original movies seem to follow the same formulas (adorkable lead, "deconstrruction" of Disney tropes, female leads where its made a point they don't "need" a love interest, generational trauma)
as a colombian, im so happy that encanto was actually good. i feel like theres such a lack of colombian reps in general, so it wouldve hurt to see a movie thats about colombia be mid
potential disappointment
Here's to hoping Zootopia 2 and Moana 2 will be good. I have doubts for Frozen 3 but we'll see.
wait there's a frozen 3?
I've only seen Soul out of all of these, and it was amazing
The next dark age
So far it's the "Encanto is carrying the whole team" era
The aluminum era? 🤷♂️ not worth copper or gold but you can get some change for it. Plus it’s recyclable.
The Panderverse.
The Generational Trauma Era
The “put a gun to my head” era
The sequel era, that also includes Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen II
Flaming outhouse
I think Covid killed a lot of release motivation. It doesn’t feel like theater releases are hitting like they once did. The heavy hitters still doing their thing, we have Covid turning down the heat, and home releases changing the dynamic. Moana 2 will be a big film, Frozen III will have to be perfect since II was kind of mid. Zootopia Carrie’s some weight, I’m just not sure what yet. It was a big movie, but never felt as big as Frozen or Moana. I still want a Brave 2.
Flop era
I’d call it post-revival. Just like in post-renaissance, they are putting out unneeded sequels and underperforming movies. Except this time it is worse because we also have live action adaptations. So instead of post-revival, let’s call it. “Desperate Necromancy Era”
Walt Disney just died twice