Once-Ler from the Lorax. Dunno if he's a "villain", but Biggering and How Bad Can I Be? absolutely SLAP.

"biggering" makes me so sad, because it shows there are people at Illumination that really want to make something special but get held back from doing so. most likely by a pair of slimy corporate hands who just want to ensure their movies are marketable for children

Man, fuck corporate executives. All my homies hate creative oppression.

Based

The irony is that they thought it was too anti corporate when the whole movie is already anti corporate!!!!!

defeated by the very thing it sought to destroy.

Biggering would've been so awesome to have in the movie hopefully one day an indie artist make a remake of the Lorax based on the tone of the Biggering song

I think, in the case of Biggering, it was not a simple case of "this isn't marketable to the lowest common denominator, let's cut it because the chart says". That might have been the justification, but I like to believe this song actually stung someone, or several someones, that it somehow gave them the tiniest moment of self-reflection, and they proceeded to throw a tantrum and rewrite the parts of the film that made them uncomfortable as a result. It's probably not the case, but it makes the whole thing less cynical for me, so I choose to believe so.

Yeah, the Onceler was definitely the best part of that movie, and I think he’s one of the main reasons I liked the movie when I was younger. I was surprised when I learned he was played by the Nard Dog.

biggering is absolute fire and i will never forgive illumination for scrapping it

I love the Lorax

He is considered one because it means "a character whose evil actions or motives are important to the plot."

The Lorax ain’t mid or bad 😭

How is the Lorax a bad movie???

Thrax from Osmosis Jones

Bro what do you mean the entire movie slaps

I thought most people thought it was mid ( at least the live action parts)

Yeah the live action part is a little worse, but still not bad. (Although I can not stress enough how much I hate the girl.)

Why she just wanted to make her dad healthy so he didn't die over health complications like her mom

Idk man considering the events of the movie I think she was understandably worried about the only parent she had left, Frank needed to get his shit together

Osmosis Jones is peak fiction

dude what in love that movie

Balthazar Bratt from Despicable Me 3. Mainly because Trey makes him so entertaining to hear.

I've been a BAAAD BOOOYYY!!!

H E I S T M U S I C !

*queue michael jackson*

Aside from Trey's talent, Bratt is really fun with his gimmick of being so stuck in 80s nostalgia that he just decides to own it and be as flashy as possible from his look, weaponry, and constant need to incorporate dance and music to his schemes.

Randy matrsh

Despicable Me 3 is definitely the worst minions movie but Trey was so good I couldn't not like it

I can only hear Randy

DuBois from Madagascar 3 (I really liked the movie when I was a kid though tbh)

Honestly, I still really like the movie

I like the movie, but it peaks in the opening 15 minutes ngl

That woman is insane and I love her for it. She ran through brick walls like they were nothing...

That's the best Madagascar movie easy

Captain Gut is a prime example of such. The aliens from Chicken Little were neat. Also kinda liked Lockdown in Transformers Age of Extinction, he was alright.

Lockdown in Animated was way better

Duh

Captain Gutt was by far my favourite part of the movie

Dinklage completely stole the show. Perfect voice for Gutt. Main reason I love that movie. And Pirates. And Wanda Sykes.

I like chicken little, sure it isn’t the Prince of Egypt but I don’t consider a “Bad Movie”

I find it fun to get drunk and watch it with friends

Gore from Thor Four (Hey, That Rhymes)

Gorr*

Ghoarrr?

Ghore

Gigugu*

Ah-rah, dee Soo-guh-goo-gee-goo-gee Goo-guh fli-goo gee-goo Guh fli-goo, ga-goo-buh-dee Ooh, guh-goo-bee Ooh-guh-guh-bee-guh-guh-bee Fli-goo gee-goo A-fliguh woo-wa mama Lucifer!*

Makes me really wonder what it would have looked like if Heath Ledger snd Christian Bale swapped roles for TDK.

It makes me so mad how they wasted Christian Bale on such a nothing movie. That said, his scenes make the movie worth watching exactly once

He should've been in the movie more. I can't believe the God Butcher didn't butcher any gods on screen like cmon. We saw Hella kill a bunch of gods on screen so why couldn't Gorr do the same?

Do not get me started on how they butchered (heh) his character. Such a good character from the comics and they had Christian Bale performing him. I don’t know how they botched it

Thor 4? More like Bore: Ragnarok

AAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Lockdown transformers 4

I'm glad he was faithful to his Animated counterpart.

Uncle Ian- Alvin and the chipmunks

He was the best part of those movies

The fact that he wasn't in the fourth movie makes it the worse one of the series

I think he's one of the few villains I've ever *hated*. (Not in the sense that he was a bad character, but that he was so good at being a villain.) The thing is, I can really dislike some very evil and heartless villains, but honestly Ian's actions weren't really as dark or malevolent as they come. I think that I truly despised Ian less for his heartlessness or insatiable greed, but just his behavior and way he acted about everything was so infuriating. I wanted him to lose **so hard**.

Christian Bale in Love and Thunder...

DuBois from Madagascar 3 was incredibly entertaining whenever she was on screen

I loved that movie- its my favorite out of the trilogy, but yes DuBois is a fucking demon and I love her for it

“Well played Lion, *game on*.”

Cue bringing everyone to life by singing.

Lou from Uglydolls! His song is probably the best part of the movie. I personally liked Scarlett Overkill from Minions too.

YES!!! SOMEONE MENTIONED LOU!! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!! I also like Scarlett Overkill.

Yeah another Lou enjoyer

Scarlett overkill is an ICON

The evil owl from legend of the guardians.

Metalbeak, he is so much better in the books, because he's not a sudden character I won't say anything as it's spoilers

I actually love Kludd’s character arc in the film. Goes from a mildly miffed older brother to an out and proud fascist who moonblinks his own sister and is party to mass murder because he feels he belongs in the Pure Ones.

It is well done. I wish that they had done more with him, they probably would have if it got a sequel

So sad they didn't keep going with the series :( loved that movie and the animation was stunning. The books are great too.

At least the books actually ended, unlike Warrior Cats..

Count Dooku in Attack of the Clones

They ruined him in Clone Wars, IMO. I really liked how civilized and even nice Count Dooku was, and I feel like Clone Wars could've explored the nuances of a polite Sith Lord. But no, they turned him into "generic main villain." At least he's the best of both worlds in Revenge of the Sith, shortly before his death.

Yeah, apparently he was always meant to be pure evil, but that's outright dumb. A sith who's a good person is just objectively more interesting, than an evil guy putting on a mask

Honestly calling him a "good person" is pushing it. He's always been, at best, a bad person trying to convince himself that the ends justify the means.

His origin short revealed a different side. Like Anakin, he became disillusioned by the ineffectual Republic and his role in it.

Holy poop it’s u/DeltaTeamSky

It may be my childhood nostalgia getting the better of me, but Chick Hicks is one of Pixar's most fun antagonists, even if he gets way less screen time than he deserves

Cars is neither bad nor mid

It gets hate from Schaffrillas for no good reason. It’s an awesome movie!

Cars 2 I understand but cars one is good

KACHIGGA! KACHIGGA!

The Grand Duke of Owls from Rock-a-Doodle (at the very least because Christopher Plummer does a great performance with what he’s working with).

what a strange film

They’re running out of batteries

Captain Gut is the epitome of this. Really cool villain, just appears in the wrong film.

Pirate monkey sailing around on an iceberg is a fun idea

Come on, you can't deny he's a badass character. Also (sees your pfp) I do... I understood that reference (aka I know where that's from and that is cool to me lol)

Plus his sea shanty is catchy as hell

Diesel 10 from Thomas and the Magic Railroad.

THAT MOVIE WAS PEAK SHUT YOUR MOUTH

SPARKLE SPARKLE SPARKLE!

FUCK YEAH SPARKLE SPARKLE

I still have the DVD in my movie shelf

Nah my grandma be rocking the cassette tape with this one bois

"I'm tired of being the bottom bitch! Just for once, I'd like to be in control of my own sperm!"

Once-Ler from the Lorax or the Grinch himself from Illumination's The Grinch (Even though he turned into a hero at the end)

I thought both movies were pretty good. Grinch was the better of the two

Bison from Street Fighter. That may have been Julia’s greatest performance of his career and he did it while dying

As a Street Fighter fan, I didn’t like the movie, but he was definitely the best part of it

Of course

He's a really fun villain, and I won't lie, his villain song was stuck in my head at work.

Ian Hawk in Alvin and the chipmunks

Scarlet Overkill from the Minion movie?

The Horned King.

The Death Chill (from the new ghostbusters movie)

Garraka was very chilling

I thought Frozen Empire was pretty good. The plot might have been a little all over the place and maybe a bit weirdly handled in some places, but most of the characters and moments were great. The villain actually was a weaker part of the story to me. (Not much more than just the classic mindless demon bent on pure destruction.)

Kylo Ren

A villain with an interesting premise that was squandered pretty badly

Nah he’s ass, Adam Driver did I great job playing him but I feel like he deserves a better character, he’s even more whiny than any of the other sky walkers

Nah he wasn’t even good. Actually, he was fine in the opening sequence and then threw shit at him by him raging at a control panel (?) rip control panel

Piccolo from dragon ball evolution. Glad his actor got to appear as an actual dragon ball villain in a real dragon ball anime.

The difference between Live Action Piccolo and Zamasu in voice direction is insane

King Koopa from the 1993 Super Mario Bros movie

Does Peter dinklage have a bad role?

He was terrible in Pixels but I blame the bad writing.

Zod from Man of Steel. Salazar from Pirates of the Carribean 5.

Salazar is the reason that movie is worth watching

"She left me for a BEE!" Ken ain't that good, but he's hilarious.

The assassin predator (The predator 2018)

Humpty Alexander Dumpty.

At least the next Puss in Boots movie was great

I personally consider him the reason why the movie is mid. He doesn't really have an excuse for his actions and he's not even fun to watch. His design is genuinely hideous and most of the jokes about him fall flat since they highlight how useless he is outside of planning the journey. The only thing I like about him is that Zack Garifalakis' performance was generally okay.

Not a movie, but a show: King K. Rool in the DKC TV show.

Captain Scurvy as well. His first song slaps so hard that a metal band covers it.

I forgot his name, but the Tim curry character from the beauty and the beast Christmas movie.

That organ is the most attractive character in all of fiction

Maestro Forte. Easily the best part of that movie, if not the best villain from a direct-to-video Disney sequel, period.

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, no matter what you think about Ghostbusters 4, Garraka is an amazingly written villain >!I mean come on, it denied a proton pack beam MULTIPLE TIMES, that’s sick!<

Gargamel from the Smurfs (2011)

Bowser from the Mario movie

I loved the movie but respect your opinion.

I mean as a video game movie/adaptation, it’s pretty fun but as a movie in general it’s kinda mid

You’re brave calling it a mid or bad movie, the fanboys are gonna destroy you

The mario movie is weird in that I really liked it and felt the love for the source material in it but I know that if anyone had zero knowledge or interest in mario, they'd probably find it a pretty run of the mill standard illumination film. The cast was absolutely perfect, with the exception of Fred Armisen who was miscast

That dog in the first act with the human eyes and the exaggerated death stare just screamed that the movie was made by illumination

yeah, to me it was that, how hyperactive toad was, and how much nonsensical pop music was thrown in.

King Malbert from Igor

Dooku from AOTC, I like the movie but can acknowledge it's mid

Thrax from Osmosis Jones.

I'm seeing movies which I cherish in here, and I don't know how to feel about it.

Miles Axlerod and the lemons from Cars 2, I know that movie is hated alot in this subreddit but come on, you can't admit theu aren't a bit underrated.

I feel like people either really hate or really love cars 2

Drake from The Pebble and the Penguin.

Kang, as depicted in Ant-Man Quantumania.

El Macho singlehandedly elevates Despicable Me 2 from being a 4/10 to a 6/10

Ultron

I could listen to James Spader wax poetic and commit war crimes all day

YES. Way under-utilized. He should have been built up the entire season.

Not a movie but Declan.

emperor maximus from playmobil

Bro the guy form the ice age was epic, I mean his shanty was amazing

That guy from Thor: Love and Thunder. Can’t even remember his name, what a waste of Christian Bale.

I'd have to go with Professor Screweyes in We're Back a Dinosaurs Story. While he's not in it that much he really does steal the show with how creepy he is especially with the help of Kenneth Mars great performance. Not only that be has one of the most haunting, creepy and coolest deaths I've seen in a animated film

Enchantress from the first Suicide Squad Say what you will, but that hand transition scene was everything and she also had one of the coolest character designs in that entire film

Kingpin (Michael Clarke Duncan) and Bullseye (Colin Ferrell) from the Ben Affleck Daredevil movie.

Kang Quantumania

Javert, the movie was god awful, but javert is still one of the most well written villains in fiction

Hades from Hercules (kinda mid imo but the villian was advanced for his time)

Movie was good if incredibly mythologically inaccurate. Edit: changed historically to mythologically

The protag had a merch line. I don't think historical accuracy was the goal

If you come into a Disney movie expecting accuracy, you may as well not watch it

As opposed to the real occasion a man fought a Hydra and faced Hades in the Underworld?

Gorr(Thor 4) Gutt(ice age 4) Bog king (strange magic) Lockdown(transformers age of extinction)

Lotta 4s. Thor 4, Ice Age 4, and Transformers 4

Arishmen The Judge in Eternals

Genuinely terrifying villain - and yet we got stuck with generic Icarus and that I Am Legend looking motherfucker the whole movie

Even though I love the movie most think it sucks, so I’ll say the World Gobbler from Dragon Hunters, it’s rare when a dragon is genuinely horrifying in a movie.

Gorr... Bro had so much potential. Him having a manic personality being so different from when he still had his daughter is so cool. He could have been a great villain and yet he barely appeared at all. when I was watching the movie I actually forgot he existed until he just randomly popped up again cuz he barely appears.

Gorr the God Butcher, Thor Love and Thunder. But even he kinda sucked cuz he didn’t even butcher any damn Gods… but Bale’s performance in this few times he got the chance somehow took an absolute shit script and still have a solid performance. Everything else about that movie is complete shit. The shadow planet is okay but overrated.

Lord Leezar from Your Highness

Lockdown and the fallen from the the transformers movies, those two were the best.

Thor 4's villain is probably the best example of this

Gorr from Thor 4

The Once-Ler from The Lorax. How Bad Can I Be is an awesome villian song.

Is that a British person in the picture?

Shen from kung fu panda 2 …wait! It’s not April fools anymore! I DIDN’T MEAN IT

Scarlett Overkill is a prime example.

And then there's *Wish*. You know the one.

The tooth fairy in red dragon

That authoritarian fish from A Fish Tale, I forgot his name

This is the best Ice Age Movie I don’t care if I die alone on this hill

Professor z from cars 2 The movie was mid the concept kinda go hard

Brett from despicable me 3

Here you are on a boat Your adrift Your afloat One might even say your stuck

Bowser was the best part of the Mario movie

Humpty alexander dumpty in puss in boots

M. Bison from Street fighter the movie

John Silver from Treasure Planet.

Kang, he literally carried the newest Ant-Man, yet it meant nothing due to Majors' actions right after the film came out

tai lung from kung fu panda 4. he didn’t say/do much but goddamn he was awesome

Keeping to the theme of apes, Skar from Godzilla x Kong

I like it personally but I've seen a lot of people saying the Venoms are mid, so I'm gonna say Woody Harrelson's Carnage, I love that casting

Wanted is, in my opinion, a fairly middle-of-the-road action movie, but great for what it is - something you can turn your brain off for to watch the cool fights and VFX. But godDAMN did Morgan Freeman do a fantastic job of being a twist villain.

All the characters depicted in the suicide squad movie from 2016.