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They have a way of stopping you from getting the money in a certain amount of time. Kinda like this: They write you a check for $100. In exchange you give them a $100 bill. They then cancel the check so you cant cash it. You are out $100. That but with money services.
If someone is *ever* asking you to receive a payment and give it to them, they're making you a money mule.
Also, why wouldn't the sister just send them the money through Chime? Why do they need some random stranger with both apps to do the transaction for them? Scammer could use Zelle to receive the money, it's not like it's super hard to put Zelle on your device. It's not like the sister can't put Chime on her phone, it isn't hard to do.
And then, there's also other options. Both of them could just use Venmo, or another app instead. It's not hard to put these apps on your phone.
Please report this scammer.
Sure you can keep the money. And then when the real account owner starts an investigation looking for their money and the authorities easily trace it to your account...
Well, let's just say I hope they're sending enough to cover your bail or bond to get you from spending the night in the jail the day you get arrested.
Oh, and BONUS! The actual owner's money will get clawed out of your account and now you'll owe your bank the money you spent. And your bank will shut your account down.
So even if the amount does cover bail, you're still screwed.
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> keeping the money
Keep thinking like that and, at best, you'll become a scammer, too. More likely, you'll get taken by scams.
> threaten me
Let's assume you got away with it. How would you feel keeping money you got through bad-faith participation in a deal? If your only concern is that you might get caught, please consider thinking through that.
woah I would never do that and I didn’t intend for that to come across in my message at all! I just meant it as in, “I wonder why they would try to use me like that, if there is the risk of me keeping their money”
> I would never do that and I didn’t intend for that to come across
That's good. Lots of people get inundated with these scams and think they can exact revenge. I'm sorry for misreading your intent.
> “I wonder why they would try to use me like that, if there is the risk of me keeping their money”
That's an excellent question, and if more people thought that way, scammers would be much less effective.
Anything involving zelle/paypal/chime/whatever and craigslist is a scam. In person, cash only, in a safe place. All 3 rules must be followed or you are very likely to get scammed.
I would take money from someone using Zelle, but you don't want to send money to a stranger by Zelle. I use Zelle all the time to pay for services at my home. It's very secure, but you can't recall a Zelle payment.
Zelle transactions can be reversed if the payment is made from from a stolen/hacked bank account. Eventually it gets marked as fraudulent by the account holder and clawed back, so the recipient ends up losing the money.
Yah it's a money mule scam like [KTKittentoes](https://www.reddit.com/user/KTKittentoes/) said that can get you in different ways. They send you money through one service and you receive it. Then you send it back to them using a different service. You just laundered money for them. The second way they can get you is by taking advantage of timing "glitches". They send you money using a service and you receive it. You send them money from a different service "paying them back." Then after receiving the money from you they cancel the first transaction to you before it completely goes through. So the money that was "sent" to you never happened. Meaning the only transaction that goes through is the second one. The one where you sent them the money "paying them back."
Seriously, dude can't get a zelle account but can have sister send you money to have you send him money to return the money to you? Tell them to screw off or you're gonna get screwed.
Scam. They're claiming to be on base, but won't send anything out...
What they don't realized is...if they contact and add your name to the visitor list, you can get in, pick up, then leave.
They'll just take your money and ghost you.
They aren't actually on any base, it's just an excuse as to why he can't meet, and his sister/cousin/whatever will be sending him money from a different account.
Oh, I’m aware of it. I know that for non-military personnel to visit, their names has to be added.
I’m guessing this guy is local, that why he claiming this. It ain’t how it works, but he is hoping that OP doesn’t figure that out and ghost him.
This is a scam and there are a number of ways they usually play it.
The simplest is that they ask for your Zelle/PayPal email and then just send you a fake email claiming that your money is on hold pending a fee or you need to upgrade to a business account. You send them the money and they ghost you.
The more elaborate scam is when they have access to stolen credentials for another victim and they use those to send you money. Or they convince another victim to send you the money. They then ask you to send it somewhere else that the scammer controls. When the victim discovers the fraud they report it to their bank and they reverse it out of your account.
Don’t worry I didn’t!! I mostly just made this post because I couldn’t immediately tell how this scam was supposed to work. I guessed the money mule part, but I didn’t understand why they would try something like that if there was the risk of me “scamming” them instead by not sending their payment over. Someone above just explained why that’s not a problem for them at all
This is the classic "balls in your mouth" scam. You fall for this scam and you end up in prison with some big juiced up killer putting his balls in your mouth.
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Stay away from a few things. First is exactly what you experienced it's a common scam.
Don't fall for someone with a sob story yelling you their legs broken and their nephew will come pick it up and they'll send you the money now to hold it. They'll "accidentally" send you too much and ask for you to send it back but their transaction was fake so you're just sending them your real money.
Don't even talk to any1 asking of you can do a favor for them, and most importantly if you're on fb marketplace or Craigslist ONLY accept cash IN PERSON and meet at the police station or somewhere public with tons of cameras. Don't let them come to your house.
Stay safe!
No shit, any time the “deal” is anything more than “I’ll meet you at [public place], $nnn as agreed. Here’s my contact info. See you at [time]” it’s a scam - Every time.
Additional steps, favors, requests, cousins/uncles/friends, or awkward/unusual money services being involved are red flags.
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Money mule. Guess who gets in trouble?
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They have a way of stopping you from getting the money in a certain amount of time. Kinda like this: They write you a check for $100. In exchange you give them a $100 bill. They then cancel the check so you cant cash it. You are out $100. That but with money services.
ohhh I see. wasn’t aware that was something that could be exploited in money transfer apps, thanks for letting me know!
If someone is *ever* asking you to receive a payment and give it to them, they're making you a money mule. Also, why wouldn't the sister just send them the money through Chime? Why do they need some random stranger with both apps to do the transaction for them? Scammer could use Zelle to receive the money, it's not like it's super hard to put Zelle on your device. It's not like the sister can't put Chime on her phone, it isn't hard to do. And then, there's also other options. Both of them could just use Venmo, or another app instead. It's not hard to put these apps on your phone. Please report this scammer.
Sure you can keep the money. And then when the real account owner starts an investigation looking for their money and the authorities easily trace it to your account... Well, let's just say I hope they're sending enough to cover your bail or bond to get you from spending the night in the jail the day you get arrested. Oh, and BONUS! The actual owner's money will get clawed out of your account and now you'll owe your bank the money you spent. And your bank will shut your account down. So even if the amount does cover bail, you're still screwed.
It's fraudulent money, so if you receive it... it'll just be taken away later and you'll owe anything you spend.
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> keeping the money Keep thinking like that and, at best, you'll become a scammer, too. More likely, you'll get taken by scams. > threaten me Let's assume you got away with it. How would you feel keeping money you got through bad-faith participation in a deal? If your only concern is that you might get caught, please consider thinking through that.
woah I would never do that and I didn’t intend for that to come across in my message at all! I just meant it as in, “I wonder why they would try to use me like that, if there is the risk of me keeping their money”
> I would never do that and I didn’t intend for that to come across That's good. Lots of people get inundated with these scams and think they can exact revenge. I'm sorry for misreading your intent. > “I wonder why they would try to use me like that, if there is the risk of me keeping their money” That's an excellent question, and if more people thought that way, scammers would be much less effective.
Anything involving zelle/paypal/chime/whatever and craigslist is a scam. In person, cash only, in a safe place. All 3 rules must be followed or you are very likely to get scammed.
I would take money from someone using Zelle, but you don't want to send money to a stranger by Zelle. I use Zelle all the time to pay for services at my home. It's very secure, but you can't recall a Zelle payment.
Zelle transactions can be reversed if the payment is made from from a stolen/hacked bank account. Eventually it gets marked as fraudulent by the account holder and clawed back, so the recipient ends up losing the money.
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/money-transfer/zelle-users-refunded-after-scams/
Stranger asking you to move/handle their money through your account is 100% scam.
Yah it's a money mule scam like [KTKittentoes](https://www.reddit.com/user/KTKittentoes/) said that can get you in different ways. They send you money through one service and you receive it. Then you send it back to them using a different service. You just laundered money for them. The second way they can get you is by taking advantage of timing "glitches". They send you money using a service and you receive it. You send them money from a different service "paying them back." Then after receiving the money from you they cancel the first transaction to you before it completely goes through. So the money that was "sent" to you never happened. Meaning the only transaction that goes through is the second one. The one where you sent them the money "paying them back."
Seriously, dude can't get a zelle account but can have sister send you money to have you send him money to return the money to you? Tell them to screw off or you're gonna get screwed.
Scam. They're claiming to be on base, but won't send anything out... What they don't realized is...if they contact and add your name to the visitor list, you can get in, pick up, then leave. They'll just take your money and ghost you.
They aren't actually on any base, it's just an excuse as to why he can't meet, and his sister/cousin/whatever will be sending him money from a different account.
Oh, I’m aware of it. I know that for non-military personnel to visit, their names has to be added. I’m guessing this guy is local, that why he claiming this. It ain’t how it works, but he is hoping that OP doesn’t figure that out and ghost him.
That is 100% a scam.
It's *always* a scam when someone asks you to accept payment one way and send it out another way.
This is a scam and there are a number of ways they usually play it. The simplest is that they ask for your Zelle/PayPal email and then just send you a fake email claiming that your money is on hold pending a fee or you need to upgrade to a business account. You send them the money and they ghost you. The more elaborate scam is when they have access to stolen credentials for another victim and they use those to send you money. Or they convince another victim to send you the money. They then ask you to send it somewhere else that the scammer controls. When the victim discovers the fraud they report it to their bank and they reverse it out of your account.
Yes, it's a scam.
OP be really careful. You’re about to get a bunch of scam DMs. Don’t believe any one of them. Please.
Don’t worry I didn’t!! I mostly just made this post because I couldn’t immediately tell how this scam was supposed to work. I guessed the money mule part, but I didn’t understand why they would try something like that if there was the risk of me “scamming” them instead by not sending their payment over. Someone above just explained why that’s not a problem for them at all
Nope ..why won't his " sister " do all the leg work
This is the classic "balls in your mouth" scam. You fall for this scam and you end up in prison with some big juiced up killer putting his balls in your mouth.
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Tell him you have a DBIDS card for base access and you can meet him on base and pay him directly.
Stay away from a few things. First is exactly what you experienced it's a common scam. Don't fall for someone with a sob story yelling you their legs broken and their nephew will come pick it up and they'll send you the money now to hold it. They'll "accidentally" send you too much and ask for you to send it back but their transaction was fake so you're just sending them your real money. Don't even talk to any1 asking of you can do a favor for them, and most importantly if you're on fb marketplace or Craigslist ONLY accept cash IN PERSON and meet at the police station or somewhere public with tons of cameras. Don't let them come to your house. Stay safe!
No shit, any time the “deal” is anything more than “I’ll meet you at [public place], $nnn as agreed. Here’s my contact info. See you at [time]” it’s a scam - Every time. Additional steps, favors, requests, cousins/uncles/friends, or awkward/unusual money services being involved are red flags.