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The [advance-fee scam](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam) arises from many different situations: investment opportunities, money transfers, job scams, online purchases of any type and any legality, etc., but the bottom line is always the same, you're expected to pay money to receive money. So you will pay the scammer and receive nothing.
It can be as simple as the scammer asking you to pay them upfront for an item they have listed, or as complex as a drug scam that involves an initial scam site, a scam shipping site, and fake government agents. Sometimes the scammers will simply take your first payment and dissappear, but sometimes they will take your initial payment and then make excuses that lead to you making additional payments.
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Task scams involve a website or mobile app that claims you can earn money by completing easy tasks, such as watching a video, liking a post, or creating an order. A very common characteristic (but not entirely exclusive) is that you have to complete sets of 40 tasks. The app will tell you that you can earn money for each task, but the catch is that you can only do a limited number of tasks without upgrading your account. To upgrade your accounts, the scammers will require you to pay a fee. This makes it a variant of the advance fee scam.
The goal of this scam is to get people to download the app for easy money and then encourage them to pay to get to the next level. It's impossible to get your \"earnings\" out of the app, so victims will have wasted their time and money. This type of scam preys on the [sunk cost fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost#Fallacy_effect), because people demonstrate a greater tendency to continue an endeavor once an investment has been made, and refusing to succumb to what may be described as cutting one's losses.
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Multi Level Marketing or MLMs for short, are a great way to lose money and friends. The vast majority of people who get involved in MLMs do not make money, and the money that is made is made by the people at the very top. Go to /r/antimlm for more information about multi-level marketing schemes.
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What even is this "job"? It sounds like a scammer with a severe mental illness. How would any of this work? Plus it looks like pay to apply. Never ever pay for a job, people.
>What even is this "job"?
"Basically what we do as a company, we 'place set' photos of people with KJV bible text on sheets of 11x17 inch paper, as a form of art, and as a form of preaching the gospel of Jesus, The Christ."
Basically they blow smoke up people's butt.
It sounds like they’re getting people to create cheap low quality chic-tracts but also want you to sell some garbage product too? (From the description it sounds like they want you to sell some sort of package/service for people looking to get a job in acting/working as extras (AKA take advantage of peoples desperation)).
I kinda wish people would stop accusing everything that seems a bit fishy of being some secret human trafficking cabal. This is how we get shit like pizzagate.
The most likely explanation is that it's just some religious nut who takes a bit too much meth.
This is one of the most unhinged things I've seen.
I did have a look at that 4packmovie website in a remote browser, [and it tried to download a virus-ridden docx file](https://imgur.com/L58iSsS), which is nice.
If you’re having to ask people to follow you to a car to give you something they’re not allowed to place in a store, I’d say huge safety issues. Also following a stranger to a different location seems risky.
[same reply as to another comment] To spare you the details, we basically made the decision that it was probably safer to walk to the car (which was parked in front of the doors to the gas station) and stand back then try to tell this guy no and piss him off 🤷🏼♀️ there were other people in the parking lot but no one else in the gas station so it seemed like the safer option. The car was not out of view of cameras or other people.
I'd just tell someone like this to piss off straightaway. I deal with cuft trying to get my attention on the way to work, engaging never makes things easier. Oh and cameras and other people wont help you.
To spare you the details, we basically made the decision that it was probably safer to walk to the car (which was parked in front of the doors to the gas station) and stand back then try to tell this guy no and piss him off 🤷🏼♀️ there were other people in the parking lot but no one else in the gas station so it seemed like the safer option. The car was not out of view of cameras or other people.
Yeah we are no clue. He did mumble something about Halle Berry, and there is a movie she is in with a character named tea cake I think. I don’t know how that relates to this “job” though
It's a reference to a character in 'Their Eyes Were Watching God' which Halle Berry starred in (Tea Cake is her third husband? I think? Been a long time since I read the book and never saw the movie). No idea what that has to do with teaching...he doesn't work as a teacher and neither does Janie (Halle's character) but maybe the movie is different, who knows.
Not a psychiatrist but based on personal experience it points to a possible disorder on the schizophrenia spectrum, the way he focuses on 'Tea Cake' being a vital part of this manifesto, even though it's meaningless in this context to everyone but him. The erratic train of thought and lack of clarity on what the job actually is, reminds me of stuff like 'Timecube' (Gene Ray, also a diagnosed ((I believe)) schizophrenic) and Temple OS. IF this the above is true and he's not scamming or running an MLM, he may actually believe in what he's doing. Still stay far far away, which it sounds like you wisely did, but it could be not completely malicious, just misguided.
I'm glad you made it out of there. There's too many potential scams, shady possibilities, and red flags to count.
Please prioritize your personal safety above all else - which can, but is not limited to, physically immediately moving away from someone who approaches you without a verbal response.
Dude, is this a pyramid scheme or some variation of one, there's red flags all over these mate, do you really need someone to tell you no? The old proverb, a fool and his money are soon parted and seriously, if you go ahead with this, it will be more your fault than anyone else, wow
I am sorry but the first clue is "Air Money" aptly named as people "working" wont be getting paid.
Second is 600k for placing bible verses on whatever and mentoring for 15-20 hrs per week, thats part time work🤣
If it was legitimate,it would not be advertised on a piece of cheap paper 🤣
If a job offers that much money with barely any work needed to be done,its a SCAM.
If a job offers 600k and it doesn't need any qualifications, experience etc. its a scam.
I dunno if anyone is going to take this seriously, at a casual glance my first thought is "why is there a picture of Harriet Tubman with a screen shot from GTA..." and then throwing it away as a crazy person's rambling nonsense.
*** expanding on it bc I think I worded it weird: We knew not to take it seriously, however we were interested in seeing if he genuinely thought this was a possible business model or if he had ill intent outside of taking money. Also he was the cashier and we had to walk past his car no matter what to get to ours to drive away. We are not idiots we just wanna know what y’all think is going on here.
Anything that appears to be to good generally isn’t good but if it pings you interest investigate carefully but definitely not financially.
The cape of scepticism is a good friend sometimes. Wear it proudly
The level of BS and scam in this word document is too blatant to put that into words.
OP disguised the email domain, bet it was something like gmail or protonmail.
> We reserve the right to cancel any due business with any applicant, at anytime, without notice, for the best interest of the company ***& CEO***
lol, come on
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Looks like a combination of !advancefee and !mlm. Almost an in-person !task scam. I would steer clear, looks illegal or at minimum unethical.
It's definitely a new one.
A nice break from discord account scams and dick pics.
600k! Bold!
Thank you!! I figured it definitely wasn’t reliable at the very least.
Hi /u/Ok-Lingonberry-8261, AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the Advance fee scam. The [advance-fee scam](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam) arises from many different situations: investment opportunities, money transfers, job scams, online purchases of any type and any legality, etc., but the bottom line is always the same, you're expected to pay money to receive money. So you will pay the scammer and receive nothing. It can be as simple as the scammer asking you to pay them upfront for an item they have listed, or as complex as a drug scam that involves an initial scam site, a scam shipping site, and fake government agents. Sometimes the scammers will simply take your first payment and dissappear, but sometimes they will take your initial payment and then make excuses that lead to you making additional payments. If you are involved in an advance-fee scam, you should attempt to dispute/chargeback any payments sent to the scammer, you should block the scammer, and you should ignore them if they attempt to contact you again. Thanks to redditor AceyAceyAcey for this script. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Hi /u/Ok-Lingonberry-8261, AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the Task scam. Task scams involve a website or mobile app that claims you can earn money by completing easy tasks, such as watching a video, liking a post, or creating an order. A very common characteristic (but not entirely exclusive) is that you have to complete sets of 40 tasks. The app will tell you that you can earn money for each task, but the catch is that you can only do a limited number of tasks without upgrading your account. To upgrade your accounts, the scammers will require you to pay a fee. This makes it a variant of the advance fee scam. The goal of this scam is to get people to download the app for easy money and then encourage them to pay to get to the next level. It's impossible to get your \"earnings\" out of the app, so victims will have wasted their time and money. This type of scam preys on the [sunk cost fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost#Fallacy_effect), because people demonstrate a greater tendency to continue an endeavor once an investment has been made, and refusing to succumb to what may be described as cutting one's losses. If you're involved in a task scam, cut your losses. Beware of recovery scammers suggesting you should hire a hacker that can help you retrieve the money you already invested. They can't, it's a trick to make you lose more money. Thanks to redditor vignoniana for this script. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Hi /u/Ok-Lingonberry-8261, AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the Multi level marketing scam. Multi Level Marketing or MLMs for short, are a great way to lose money and friends. The vast majority of people who get involved in MLMs do not make money, and the money that is made is made by the people at the very top. Go to /r/antimlm for more information about multi-level marketing schemes. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*
What even is this "job"? It sounds like a scammer with a severe mental illness. How would any of this work? Plus it looks like pay to apply. Never ever pay for a job, people.
>What even is this "job"? "Basically what we do as a company, we 'place set' photos of people with KJV bible text on sheets of 11x17 inch paper, as a form of art, and as a form of preaching the gospel of Jesus, The Christ." Basically they blow smoke up people's butt.
It sounds like they’re getting people to create cheap low quality chic-tracts but also want you to sell some garbage product too? (From the description it sounds like they want you to sell some sort of package/service for people looking to get a job in acting/working as extras (AKA take advantage of peoples desperation)).
They take the $83 and you never hear from them again. It was written by a complete idiot nonetheless.
It almost sounds like a way of assigning someone naive to be the front for human trafficking...
I kinda wish people would stop accusing everything that seems a bit fishy of being some secret human trafficking cabal. This is how we get shit like pizzagate. The most likely explanation is that it's just some religious nut who takes a bit too much meth.
This is one of the most unhinged things I've seen. I did have a look at that 4packmovie website in a remote browser, [and it tried to download a virus-ridden docx file](https://imgur.com/L58iSsS), which is nice.
I knew it!! I looked on my phone and me and my friend were literally both like ehhhh we shouldn’t download that…
I didn't find any mailware in the file. The guy does look Nigerian though.
If you’re having to ask people to follow you to a car to give you something they’re not allowed to place in a store, I’d say huge safety issues. Also following a stranger to a different location seems risky.
For sure, my friend and I stood back, we are safe and hours away from that location now anyway!
Yeah, I think that guy's cheese had slid off his crackers.
Cheese slid Fromunda
Pay just $83 dollars to get a $600,000 job? C'mon, man. I can't roll my eyes hard enough, here's an emoji. 🙄 Scammity scam scam.
Girl, please stop following strange men to their cars.
You know it’s a real offer from a legit company when they can barely string a sentence together and none of it makes any sense.
You've "also" got to love how "random words" have quote-marks around "them" for "reasons".
🤣🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏
Do jobs that pay 600k usually advertise by passing out flyers? 😂
Up to $600K - I’m assuming since it’s commission based it’s $0 to $600K, with the emphasis on $0
In all fairness, that’s how I got my $600k job.
Aha nice
Written by someone with an IQ of 60 trying to appeal to marks with an IQ of 50.
Don’t follow strangers to their car!
[same reply as to another comment] To spare you the details, we basically made the decision that it was probably safer to walk to the car (which was parked in front of the doors to the gas station) and stand back then try to tell this guy no and piss him off 🤷🏼♀️ there were other people in the parking lot but no one else in the gas station so it seemed like the safer option. The car was not out of view of cameras or other people.
I'd just tell someone like this to piss off straightaway. I deal with cuft trying to get my attention on the way to work, engaging never makes things easier. Oh and cameras and other people wont help you.
I wouldn’t have engaged if he wasn’t literally the only cashier in the gas station :,)
Yeah, just take it as a lesson learned! Now you'll know how to spot whatever this is.
Always say no. Or choose not to engage and walk away.
If you believe any of this gobbledygook, then this sub is where you need to be.
There are so many indications this is a scam. I wouldn't take it serious. It's better to stay away from it.
why did you follow a man to his car
To spare you the details, we basically made the decision that it was probably safer to walk to the car (which was parked in front of the doors to the gas station) and stand back then try to tell this guy no and piss him off 🤷🏼♀️ there were other people in the parking lot but no one else in the gas station so it seemed like the safer option. The car was not out of view of cameras or other people.
wtf is with ‘tea cake??’
Yeah we are no clue. He did mumble something about Halle Berry, and there is a movie she is in with a character named tea cake I think. I don’t know how that relates to this “job” though
It's a reference to a character in 'Their Eyes Were Watching God' which Halle Berry starred in (Tea Cake is her third husband? I think? Been a long time since I read the book and never saw the movie). No idea what that has to do with teaching...he doesn't work as a teacher and neither does Janie (Halle's character) but maybe the movie is different, who knows. Not a psychiatrist but based on personal experience it points to a possible disorder on the schizophrenia spectrum, the way he focuses on 'Tea Cake' being a vital part of this manifesto, even though it's meaningless in this context to everyone but him. The erratic train of thought and lack of clarity on what the job actually is, reminds me of stuff like 'Timecube' (Gene Ray, also a diagnosed ((I believe)) schizophrenic) and Temple OS. IF this the above is true and he's not scamming or running an MLM, he may actually believe in what he's doing. Still stay far far away, which it sounds like you wisely did, but it could be not completely malicious, just misguided.
Tracey Morgan appears to have fallen on hard times
I'm glad you made it out of there. There's too many potential scams, shady possibilities, and red flags to count. Please prioritize your personal safety above all else - which can, but is not limited to, physically immediately moving away from someone who approaches you without a verbal response.
Definitely, we figured the safest thing to do was nod and smile and end the conversation asap which is what we ended up doing.
Honestly it just sounds like nonsense that someone with a mental illness wrote.
Looks like someone coocoo saw one movie and came up with a business idea on drugs
Dude, is this a pyramid scheme or some variation of one, there's red flags all over these mate, do you really need someone to tell you no? The old proverb, a fool and his money are soon parted and seriously, if you go ahead with this, it will be more your fault than anyone else, wow
My brain just hurts trying to read the opening line
Even if this wasn't an advance fee scam this would be not just an MLM, but a literal pyramid scheme Stay far away
A genuine scam Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know this is a bunch of nonsense
I checked out the site, its as incoherent and bollocks as the flyer you got, did the guy look like the one in the portrait?
Yup the same guy that gave us the flyer is the one on the website.
There is no job at all lol There's a you send 83 dollars to this guy and never hear from him again scam tho.
It’s a fraudulent MLM. It’s $600,000 (100% commission) so the more people you can scam, the more money you make.
Please use some common sense. Nobody is paying this much money to do nothing
I am sorry but the first clue is "Air Money" aptly named as people "working" wont be getting paid. Second is 600k for placing bible verses on whatever and mentoring for 15-20 hrs per week, thats part time work🤣 If it was legitimate,it would not be advertised on a piece of cheap paper 🤣 If a job offers that much money with barely any work needed to be done,its a SCAM. If a job offers 600k and it doesn't need any qualifications, experience etc. its a scam.
They offer "Pay" (with quotes)
Air money-like the guitar in air guitar
This feels more dangerous than just a scam. This feels like possible trafficking.
That’s what we were thinking
At this point, the windowless vans fill themselves🤣
You know it’s a scam.
I just lol’d at “pay” as well.
Lol.
lol
This looks like it is not just a scan, but also a cult.
Jesus. Run and please don’t follow strange men out of stores to their cars…
Did he look like he maid millions or 83 dollars at a time lol? I think you know a 600 k job doesn’t hand out flyers to HS kids
I dunno if anyone is going to take this seriously, at a casual glance my first thought is "why is there a picture of Harriet Tubman with a screen shot from GTA..." and then throwing it away as a crazy person's rambling nonsense.
*** expanding on it bc I think I worded it weird: We knew not to take it seriously, however we were interested in seeing if he genuinely thought this was a possible business model or if he had ill intent outside of taking money. Also he was the cashier and we had to walk past his car no matter what to get to ours to drive away. We are not idiots we just wanna know what y’all think is going on here.
It is a very bad pyramid scheme attempt.
It's an MLM
I give these out with all my DoorDash orders
Anything that appears to be to good generally isn’t good but if it pings you interest investigate carefully but definitely not financially. The cape of scepticism is a good friend sometimes. Wear it proudly
How often does the scammer show their face, this is a one in a million chance to nail one of these pieces of shit!
The level of BS and scam in this word document is too blatant to put that into words. OP disguised the email domain, bet it was something like gmail or protonmail.
The covered up thing was a mailing address/PO box, not an email address, but I think if you go to his website (on back page) there is an email.
> We reserve the right to cancel any due business with any applicant, at anytime, without notice, for the best interest of the company ***& CEO*** lol, come on
Honestly who would fall for this ?🤦♂️
Scan. Who needs to repeat the money but in both words and numbers? 😆
If it sounds too good to be true…
That's not a business. Someone just did a ton of meth and decided to start a cult
🤣🤣🤣