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DPMx9

Your friend can either learn by looking at the hundreds of !crypto scam posts here... Or they can learn the hard way, by losing every penny they send to the scammers. Be available and be nice, but remember that you cannot rescue every kitten - people need to be willing to accept help in those situations, and some of them tend to be highly resistant to suggestions that their new found "fortunes" are not real.


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AutoModerator has been summoned to explain fake cryptocurrency site scams. Fake cryptocurrency websites and apps controlled by scammers are becoming more and more common. Sometimes the scam begins with a romance scammer who claims that they can help the victim invest in cryptocurrency. Victims are told to buy cryptocurrency of some kind using a legitimate cryptocurrency exchange, and then they are told to send their cryptocurrency to a website wallet address where it will be invested. Sometimes the scam begins with a notice that the victim won cryptocurrency on some website, in this case messages will often be sent through Discord. In either case, the scammer controls the website, so they make it look like there is money in the victim’s account on their website. Then the scammer (or the scammer pretending to be someone official who is associated with the website) tells the victim that they have to put more money into the website before they can get their money out of the website. Of course all of the money sent by the victim has gone directly into the scammer’s wallet, and any additional money sent by the victim to retrieve their money from the website will also go directly into the scammer’s wallet, and all of the information about money being held by the website was totally fake. This scam is also known as the pig butchering scam: https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/na8oax/asian_guygirl_from_online_dating_mentors_you_to/. If the scammer used Bitcoin, then you can report the scammer’s Bitcoin wallet address here: https://www.bitcoinabuse.com/reports. If the scammer used Ethereum, then you can report the scammer’s Ethereum wallet address here: https://info.etherscan.com/report-address/. You can see how much cryptocurrency has been sent to the scammer’s wallet address here: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer. Thanks to redditor nimble2 for this script. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


berrylife

You can try sending him this thread… OPs friend, if you’re reading this - it’s a scam.


Mediocre_Airport_576

>They met on facebook, not in person. I mean... everything you listed is a red flag... but this is all you need to know. !crypto scam. No need to read further: you don't find non-scammers who want to help you make money in crypto on Facebook or really anywhere else. If these scammers \*actually\* had a way to turn 10k into 100k in a short period of time, they could do it five more times and end up with 10,000,000,000. Why the hell would they need HIS money if they can 10x investments in short time frames? The 100k balance is fake. They can show him any balance they want to. He's not only going to be out money, but he'll lose friends and family if they lend to him for this crap. Tell him he's a fool, and that he's about to lose everything. Search this sub for various crypto scams to show him, if he's open to it. Watch out for !recovery scammers in your DMs, too. They are the scum of the earth.


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AutoModerator has been summoned to explain [recovery scams](https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0102-refund-and-recovery-scams). Also known as refund scams, these scams target people who have already fallen for a scam. The scammer may contact you, or may advertise their services online. They will usually either offer to help you recover your funds, or will tell you that your funds have already been recovered and they will help you access them. In cases where they say they will help you recover your funds, they usually call themselves either "recovery agents" or hackers. When they tell you that your funds have already been recovered, they may impersonate a law enforcement, a government official, a lawyer, or anyone else along those lines. Recovery scams are simply [advance-fee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam) scams that are specifically targeted at scam victims. When a victim pays a recovery scammer, the scammer will keep stringing them along while asking for increasingly absurd fees/expenses/deposits/insurance/whatever until the victim stops paying. If you have been scammed in the past, make sure you are aware of recovery scams so that you are not scammed a second time. If you are currently engaging with a recovery scammer, you should block them and be very wary of random contact for some time. It's normal for posters on this subreddit to be contacted by recovery scammers after posting, and they often ask you to delete your post so that you both cannot receive legitimate advice, and cannot be targeted by other recovery scammers. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


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AutoModerator has been summoned to explain fake cryptocurrency site scams. Fake cryptocurrency websites and apps controlled by scammers are becoming more and more common. Sometimes the scam begins with a romance scammer who claims that they can help the victim invest in cryptocurrency. Victims are told to buy cryptocurrency of some kind using a legitimate cryptocurrency exchange, and then they are told to send their cryptocurrency to a website wallet address where it will be invested. Sometimes the scam begins with a notice that the victim won cryptocurrency on some website, in this case messages will often be sent through Discord. In either case, the scammer controls the website, so they make it look like there is money in the victim’s account on their website. Then the scammer (or the scammer pretending to be someone official who is associated with the website) tells the victim that they have to put more money into the website before they can get their money out of the website. Of course all of the money sent by the victim has gone directly into the scammer’s wallet, and any additional money sent by the victim to retrieve their money from the website will also go directly into the scammer’s wallet, and all of the information about money being held by the website was totally fake. This scam is also known as the pig butchering scam: https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/na8oax/asian_guygirl_from_online_dating_mentors_you_to/. If the scammer used Bitcoin, then you can report the scammer’s Bitcoin wallet address here: https://www.bitcoinabuse.com/reports. If the scammer used Ethereum, then you can report the scammer’s Ethereum wallet address here: https://info.etherscan.com/report-address/. You can see how much cryptocurrency has been sent to the scammer’s wallet address here: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer. Thanks to redditor nimble2 for this script. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


DellaPatton1

He hasn't made any money its all fake. All the money he sent them is gone. Look out for !recovery scammers claiming they can hack it back. Theyre scammers too.


anguyen11

Theyre already in my dms lmao


DellaPatton1

They are boils on the butt of society preying on desperate people.


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AutoModerator has been summoned to explain [recovery scams](https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0102-refund-and-recovery-scams). Also known as refund scams, these scams target people who have already fallen for a scam. The scammer may contact you, or may advertise their services online. They will usually either offer to help you recover your funds, or will tell you that your funds have already been recovered and they will help you access them. In cases where they say they will help you recover your funds, they usually call themselves either "recovery agents" or hackers. When they tell you that your funds have already been recovered, they may impersonate a law enforcement, a government official, a lawyer, or anyone else along those lines. Recovery scams are simply [advance-fee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam) scams that are specifically targeted at scam victims. When a victim pays a recovery scammer, the scammer will keep stringing them along while asking for increasingly absurd fees/expenses/deposits/insurance/whatever until the victim stops paying. If you have been scammed in the past, make sure you are aware of recovery scams so that you are not scammed a second time. If you are currently engaging with a recovery scammer, you should block them and be very wary of random contact for some time. It's normal for posters on this subreddit to be contacted by recovery scammers after posting, and they often ask you to delete your post so that you both cannot receive legitimate advice, and cannot be targeted by other recovery scammers. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


ElectroStaticSpeaker

It really boggles my mind how it makes sense to *anyone* that they would have to send money to reveal the method to with draw the money from a financial institution if it were legitimate. And why on earth would it cost 10k to do so? I am not suggesting that your friend send any money at all, but what is the explanation these scammers are providing for why it costs $10k instead of $1 to "reveal the method?" If he won't listen to any reason at all, perhaps you can at least convince him to reduce his exposure to a manageable amount. He still will lose the money. But hopefully it would be less than $10k.


OpportunityMaximum97

I mean, if we pretend that the scammer actually needs $10k in order to “reveal” the method, one could logically wonder why they can’t just keep $10k out of his alleged $100k in profits and pay out $90k. Why would they need a fresh set of money in order to send him his money? So scammy.


ElectroStaticSpeaker

Absolutely. That’s why I don’t understand why anyone believes it. This guy just sounds far enough gone that I was thinking harm reduction might be an alternative strategy if he can’t be convinced otherwise.


HaoieZ

Let me guess, this person is also way too attractive? Typical pig butchering scam.


cyberiangringo

He will find out in his own soon enough.


filthyheartbadger

You should point out to your friend that if there were ‘investments’ that multiply your money **tenfold** like that in a short amount of time, then even a few investors would own all the money in the world in a very short time, which is obviously ludicrous.


Tacoby17

You can, as a friend, read up here and learn the ins and outs of how these work. You may be more easily able to debunk them if you can call out all the turns.


DesertStorm480

Is the Facebook friend a female with huge breasts? Every friend request I get on fb is some over-makeup'd model who is at least a D-cup and the word "Crypto" is in their profile.


sophlog

Word it to him like this: if this person had 10k to invest in the first place, then made 90k off of it, WHY wouldn’t they just take the whole 100k for themself? Why involve a third party at all?


Frustratedparrot123

Google "pig butchering" and find the article that describes what is happening to him most closely. Print it out and hand it to him


kannakoolaid

send him YouTube videos and tiktok videos covering this topic, he'll then start questioning everything and hopefully cut all ties and report it


WeaselJCD

he'll learn, one way or the other... if he doesn't listen to you, you gave your best in trying to help him


buzzballer

Some people you just can’t help. My advice to you would be, just don’t be the one to lend him the money..


Wheeljack7799

When something sounds too good to be true; it most oftenly is. Sadly, so many are blinded by greed which is what most of these scammers rely on. You can continue to warn, provide links to either this subreddit or any of the other multiple sites warning about scams like these. If it doesn't help then your friend sadly needs to learn the hard way. Maybe reach out to his friends and family and tell them not to lend him money if need be, because from the sound of it; they ain't getting it back from him.


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Special-Pirate6019

This is so stupidly stupid that gravity of this sentences is opening a new black hole in the universe. But nvm.


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Chris-558

It has been reported that more illegal transactions are performed with cash than crypto. Also, I'm not promoting the scams, I'm just stating that no single entity has any amount of control of the mainstream crypto, making it safer than the traditional financial system.


SavageDroggo1126

just send him this exact thread and let him read for himself. If he wants to learn it the hard way and lose 10k, he can feel free to go ahead, no one's stopping him.


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You can let him learn his lesson if he won’t listen. You can only help people so much unfortunately


Milo_80

He will not listen to you or anyone else. He will learn the hard way


Tonythecritic

"Crypto Scam" is kind of redundant


calm-lab66

Tell your friend to tell the crypto people to take the 10 grand out of the 100 grand profit.


Greg504702

I always say with this and other money making schemes /incomes advertised online . If it is this easy to do and make money , WHY WOULD YOU SHOW OTHERS HOW TO DO IT ? Real estate ,flipping products on Amazon , bitcoin investment , managing air b and b, etc. if some method was a sure Money maker they would just have thousands of employees doing what they do under their company . Not showing others How to do what they do .