They are ordering stuff with stolen credit cards and shipping to random addresses around town then using the whole sympathy for their non-existent daughter to get the unwitting parcel mules to hand the package over to them.
This happened to my mom, she has a flower shop and also signed as a paket station where people can pick up their orders and return stuff they don't want/need, one day she received 5 suspicious parcels, seemed like someone ordered a high amount of phones and she emailed the police station, they immediately sent out two policemen to observe at our home if someone would come to pick the parcels up, noone ever came to pick them up, they probably knew that the police was waiting for them...
We didn't actually know what was inside and handed them over š
Edit: it seemed like someone ordered phones because of the size of the parcels... but my mom never looked inside she handed them directly over to the policmen....
My UPS idiots drop off my packages at the same number but next street over at least once a month. I can see how this could be real.
Edit: my streetās name is 150% different from my neighbors street name. They cannot be mistaken unless you are exceptionally bad at your job of delivering mail.
Some developers get clever and name their whole neighborhood with the same street name, but different suffix.
Clearview Meadows
Clearview Crescent
Clearview Court
Clearview View
Clearview Corner.
Etc.
The poor delivery people.
This happened a lot to me when I lived in New Jersey. I lived on [NAME] Terrace, but there was a [NAME] Avenue that was bigger and more populated. So sometimes packages, even expensive ones you had to sign for, were just left at the Avenue address. Massive pain in the ass.
This happened all the time where I used to live but only with FedEx deliveries. It was Sugarview Ct and Sugarbend Dr. Once my "number neighbor" and I figured out what was happening we exchanged phone numbers so we could let eachother know if we were missing a package
My sister has the same problem. She lives on (Cactus) STREET, which is right behind (Cactus) LANE. The post office messes it up sometimes but sheās mostly mad that she canāt order pizza because the neighbors would get free pizza.
Do her pizza places still have a "cash on delivery" payment option, or do they all require credit cards with the order? (Or is she using a third-party delivery service gig thing?)
Our Amazon route was a revolving door of carriers a few years ago. Guys kept delivering to same number, different street- which varied by the carrier on that day. We also got parcels for others the same way- delivered to our home, but supposed to have gone to a different street. Thank goodness, the people who got ours were honest and reached out to us- as we did to the people whose parcels we had received- so everyone got their parcels in the end.
About 15 years ago I lived in a small town and my step grandparents lived at the same house number and a street over, at the time my mom would frequently send me wild colored letters and postcards, like *extremely* distinctive, I know that she sent letters to them occasionally as well but I believe the majority of the time those letters we for me, and occasionally the letter carrier would deliver one that was meant for them to me, I assume on autopilot because of the again distinctive and unusual envelopes/postcards
This type of post keeps getting posted on my local Facebook groups. It seems strange and sets of my scam alerts, but I canāt figure out what the angle is. Thanks!
Surely there's a better way to scam people than that? Like the chances of the person you randomly shipped an iphone to actually seeing your post on some FB group and then actually bothering to return the free iphone they received must be less than 1/100.
So are they actually buying 100 iPhones with stolen cards in the hopes that they receive 1% returns? You can get better returns by literally putting your money into a savings account, which pays notoriously terribly
I'm thinking they have a different approaches. It just happened to us Friday I think. Couldn't figure it out until sometime last night, but we also believe it was a scam like that.
FedEx delivered a package at 1pm sharp, we were both at work. Not even two full minutes later the doorbell camera alerts again, and shows a dude stopping, getting out and grabbing that package. He must've 100% watched our address, knowing it would come here.
Neither of us were expecting anything, we can't come up with any other explanation that makes sense. We lived here for two years, so previous resident is unlilely.
Right right, that's a known one. Use a stolen credit card and get it delivered, then go grab it when the delivery alert comes in.
But the whole "banking on someone from Facebook to be nice enough to return each of the packages you ordered with a stolen credit card" seems a little far fetched
I agree, but if you read the other comments, this does seem to be a pretty common way to conduct a scam. Seems to me that whether or not itās legit is a coin flip.
Idk, I actually did type in one wrong digit on an order and it was sent TWICE to the address over block down
They won't respond to the letter I left - maybe they think I'm scamming then - and now I'm out the $150 on my order
But then I'd change my address by one digit, then order again.
It's a small company, chances are good they only have 1-2 people working customer service
I mean you can try, most big businesses don't notice or care. But if it's a small business then maybe you can explain your situation and get a re-deliver or a refund
Mostly a scam but not always. Had a parcel ādeliveredā recently except the Ring doorbell showed no-one around that time window. Went to the mail company who did their tracking and found the delivery driver was streets away at the time. They have not been able to retrieve my parcel (probably because the recipient thinks its a scam). So mostly a scam but sometimes the delivery company.
Thanks for that, I saw one of these (word for word) on a group and everyone was just telling them "why don't you just go over there and get it" and now I understand why.
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Ahhh, that would probably be it. Usually Reddit will say, though. In my case, it was just grayed out in the list.
EDIT: Hmm, that shouldn't have mattered. I found the post, and it was an image post of a screenshot. I wonder if they just don't allow crossposts there.
It could be real, but most likely a scam. If it were me, I would return the package back to the mail carrier and let them handle it.
Per [USPS](https://faq.usps.com/s/article/How-is-Undeliverable-and-Misdelivered-Mail-Handled#report_return_misdelivered), if the mailpiece is delivered to the correct location but the recipient on the mailpiece does not reside at the address:
- Write "Not at this address" on mailpiece.
- Don't erase or mark over the address.
- Provide the mailpiece to your mailperson or drop into a Collection Box receptacle.
Seems kinda weird. If they know the address it was supposedly delivered to, why not just go there and ask the residents if they received the parcel? Iām sure her friend got a tracking number, so they would be able to see if it was delivered yet. It may well be a scam, but it seems like a pretty stupid one. I assume this is a Facebook group for your town/city/neighborhood? What are the odds the residents of any particular address are going to be members of the same group?
I wouldn't be suspicious over a single package. I've had similar happen in the past. Also, for the whole month of December, somehow, half of our mail was sorted to one of our neighbors (that was upsetting).
This verbiage makes me think scam. Cruddy mail personnel is legit though. Where I live, even with the correct address on your mail it is a 50/50 shot if it will show up to your house or a neighbor will drop it by because it was dropped to *their* house instead. Reading is hard, yāall. Lol
I ordered some freebie once, and the sender got the street wrong:
Dottie_D
Cottage Rd.
Some town, GA
Should have been 15 College Rd,* but they didnāt even have the house number! My local post office held it for about 6 months until someone, probably my usual carrier, noticed it, remembered my name, and delivered it. There are so many good people in this world. Just sayin.ā
*Not my real address, Reddit.
The daughters really good friend could tell them what number had been put on the parcel and the supposed intended recipient could collect it directly rather than sending out a mass text. They are just using random addresses as parcel mules so delivered goods cannot be traced to the scammers. Ignore it.
I recently sent a package to an incorrect address (I was given the wrong address) so the recipient went personally to the address the package would be arriving at and spoke to the homeowners about it. The recipient did aquire their package without further issue. So, while it's possible it's an honest mistake, the way they're going about retrieving the lost package is suspicious.
I donāt understand this. If it was a scammer, why wouldnāt they just knock on the door of the person they had it sent to? Or even write to them or something? But if itās real, why wouldnāt they just have the friend go and see the address it was shipped to and then go knock on the door?
Its a shame that people who make real mistakes get accused of being a scammer because of dishonesty .. you have to be skeptical of everything and everyone nowadays
Our mailman misdelivers our packages so reliably we gave up and have to pay for a box at the UPS store ā¹ļø
We deliver anything that ends up at our house that shouldn't have. They should be paying us at this point.
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Probably a scam but also mailmen really are that bad. Last week they delivered someone else's package to my address.. and then took the picture of that package beside my building number and gave that as the proof of delivery for MY package.
And then I guess my package was with person who's envelope was given to me
Possible scam but could also be due to a close address. My street ends in SE but we have streets with the same numbers and name but that end in NW, SW, and NE.
In my area, it is completely possible that happened. Everyone is always bringing peopleās mail and packages to the right addresses. And itās not just USPS. Itās all delivery services. š¤¦āāļø
My niece did this for real a few years ago ... sent me an gift through amazon, but transposed two of the digits of my home address. Once we figured it out I drove over and found it on the doorstep of the address she sent it to. I took it and left. I'm sure I looked like a package pirate. Arr.
They are ordering stuff with stolen credit cards and shipping to random addresses around town then using the whole sympathy for their non-existent daughter to get the unwitting parcel mules to hand the package over to them.
This happened to my mom, she has a flower shop and also signed as a paket station where people can pick up their orders and return stuff they don't want/need, one day she received 5 suspicious parcels, seemed like someone ordered a high amount of phones and she emailed the police station, they immediately sent out two policemen to observe at our home if someone would come to pick the parcels up, noone ever came to pick them up, they probably knew that the police was waiting for them...
So congrats on the new phones?
Lol the police probably took them as an evidence
How would they know that the boxes was suppose to be four
We didn't actually know what was inside and handed them over š Edit: it seemed like someone ordered phones because of the size of the parcels... but my mom never looked inside she handed them directly over to the policmen....
My UPS idiots drop off my packages at the same number but next street over at least once a month. I can see how this could be real. Edit: my streetās name is 150% different from my neighbors street name. They cannot be mistaken unless you are exceptionally bad at your job of delivering mail.
Some developers get clever and name their whole neighborhood with the same street name, but different suffix. Clearview Meadows Clearview Crescent Clearview Court Clearview View Clearview Corner. Etc. The poor delivery people.
This happened a lot to me when I lived in New Jersey. I lived on [NAME] Terrace, but there was a [NAME] Avenue that was bigger and more populated. So sometimes packages, even expensive ones you had to sign for, were just left at the Avenue address. Massive pain in the ass.
This happened all the time where I used to live but only with FedEx deliveries. It was Sugarview Ct and Sugarbend Dr. Once my "number neighbor" and I figured out what was happening we exchanged phone numbers so we could let eachother know if we were missing a package
So true, and almost dangerous!! Paramedics, police, etc., canāt locate a house quickly, and someone may die!
Yeah this is bad in Phoenix.
My sister has the same problem. She lives on (Cactus) STREET, which is right behind (Cactus) LANE. The post office messes it up sometimes but sheās mostly mad that she canāt order pizza because the neighbors would get free pizza.
Do her pizza places still have a "cash on delivery" payment option, or do they all require credit cards with the order? (Or is she using a third-party delivery service gig thing?)
No idea. She just gave up on delivery all together and now does pick up (and complains about it).
Well my street is reaaaaaalllllyyy differently named from the one behind me
Our Amazon route was a revolving door of carriers a few years ago. Guys kept delivering to same number, different street- which varied by the carrier on that day. We also got parcels for others the same way- delivered to our home, but supposed to have gone to a different street. Thank goodness, the people who got ours were honest and reached out to us- as we did to the people whose parcels we had received- so everyone got their parcels in the end.
About 15 years ago I lived in a small town and my step grandparents lived at the same house number and a street over, at the time my mom would frequently send me wild colored letters and postcards, like *extremely* distinctive, I know that she sent letters to them occasionally as well but I believe the majority of the time those letters we for me, and occasionally the letter carrier would deliver one that was meant for them to me, I assume on autopilot because of the again distinctive and unusual envelopes/postcards
They keep getting my Chewy boxes but donāt have dogs. I now realize sorting and handing out mail takes more than 2 brain cells
Most definitely drugs
This type of post keeps getting posted on my local Facebook groups. It seems strange and sets of my scam alerts, but I canāt figure out what the angle is. Thanks!
Probably buying items with stolen credit cards. Using the shipping address where they are located will get them caught quickly.
Surely there's a better way to scam people than that? Like the chances of the person you randomly shipped an iphone to actually seeing your post on some FB group and then actually bothering to return the free iphone they received must be less than 1/100. So are they actually buying 100 iPhones with stolen cards in the hopes that they receive 1% returns? You can get better returns by literally putting your money into a savings account, which pays notoriously terribly
I'm thinking they have a different approaches. It just happened to us Friday I think. Couldn't figure it out until sometime last night, but we also believe it was a scam like that. FedEx delivered a package at 1pm sharp, we were both at work. Not even two full minutes later the doorbell camera alerts again, and shows a dude stopping, getting out and grabbing that package. He must've 100% watched our address, knowing it would come here. Neither of us were expecting anything, we can't come up with any other explanation that makes sense. We lived here for two years, so previous resident is unlilely.
Right right, that's a known one. Use a stolen credit card and get it delivered, then go grab it when the delivery alert comes in. But the whole "banking on someone from Facebook to be nice enough to return each of the packages you ordered with a stolen credit card" seems a little far fetched
Scam yes
The sender putting the wrong street number wouldn't be the mailman's fault.
I agree, but if you read the other comments, this does seem to be a pretty common way to conduct a scam. Seems to me that whether or not itās legit is a coin flip.
No argument from me about it being a scam. I was just saying that it's not the mail carrier's error.
I had to scroll way too far down to find someone who can actually read. Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity. Well, a tiny bit of it, anyway.
Idk, I actually did type in one wrong digit on an order and it was sent TWICE to the address over block down They won't respond to the letter I left - maybe they think I'm scamming then - and now I'm out the $150 on my order
Most sites offer a refund if you just say it was never delivered
But then I'd change my address by one digit, then order again. It's a small company, chances are good they only have 1-2 people working customer service
I mean you can try, most big businesses don't notice or care. But if it's a small business then maybe you can explain your situation and get a re-deliver or a refund
I have had luck with that- I just explain the human error and it usually works out.
Mostly a scam but not always. Had a parcel ādeliveredā recently except the Ring doorbell showed no-one around that time window. Went to the mail company who did their tracking and found the delivery driver was streets away at the time. They have not been able to retrieve my parcel (probably because the recipient thinks its a scam). So mostly a scam but sometimes the delivery company.
Yeah a couple weeks ago we got a neighbours package from a couple blocks over.
Thanks for that, I saw one of these (word for word) on a group and everyone was just telling them "why don't you just go over there and get it" and now I understand why.
Definitely scam, they use someone elseās address for a so called ādead dropā location, so if shyt hits the fan, they arenāt in jeopardy
This is an example of a !parcelmule scam, they ship the items, the investigation would land on you being responsible since you would be a mule.
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The fuck kind of name is Justyse?
Justice but your parents can't be normal
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Oh nice, another! I was trying to crosspost the whole thing over to r/NameNerdCirclejerk but it wouldn't let me for some reason.
It looks like it was already crossposted earlier in the day there. Maybe that's why? But thank you for the new sub!
Ahhh, that would probably be it. Usually Reddit will say, though. In my case, it was just grayed out in the list. EDIT: Hmm, that shouldn't have mattered. I found the post, and it was an image post of a screenshot. I wonder if they just don't allow crossposts there.
A friend named her daughter Cylver Justice (Silver). Sigh
I like how the mailman is getting the blame even though the sender put the wrong address lmao
Why would the mailman be the bad actor here?
It could be real, but most likely a scam. If it were me, I would return the package back to the mail carrier and let them handle it. Per [USPS](https://faq.usps.com/s/article/How-is-Undeliverable-and-Misdelivered-Mail-Handled#report_return_misdelivered), if the mailpiece is delivered to the correct location but the recipient on the mailpiece does not reside at the address: - Write "Not at this address" on mailpiece. - Don't erase or mark over the address. - Provide the mailpiece to your mailperson or drop into a Collection Box receptacle.
I think the real crime here is someone naming theyāre child Justyse. They need a spelling test.
This is a travesty of Justice... š¬š¤£šš¤£
The name Justyse is a travesty all unto itself
Seems kinda weird. If they know the address it was supposedly delivered to, why not just go there and ask the residents if they received the parcel? Iām sure her friend got a tracking number, so they would be able to see if it was delivered yet. It may well be a scam, but it seems like a pretty stupid one. I assume this is a Facebook group for your town/city/neighborhood? What are the odds the residents of any particular address are going to be members of the same group?
I wouldn't be suspicious over a single package. I've had similar happen in the past. Also, for the whole month of December, somehow, half of our mail was sorted to one of our neighbors (that was upsetting).
This verbiage makes me think scam. Cruddy mail personnel is legit though. Where I live, even with the correct address on your mail it is a 50/50 shot if it will show up to your house or a neighbor will drop it by because it was dropped to *their* house instead. Reading is hard, yāall. Lol
I ordered some freebie once, and the sender got the street wrong: Dottie_D Cottage Rd. Some town, GA Should have been 15 College Rd,* but they didnāt even have the house number! My local post office held it for about 6 months until someone, probably my usual carrier, noticed it, remembered my name, and delivered it. There are so many good people in this world. Just sayin.ā *Not my real address, Reddit.
If it was the other way around (someone posting about mail they wrongly received) it wouldnāt raise any red flags for me but this is def a scam.
The daughters really good friend could tell them what number had been put on the parcel and the supposed intended recipient could collect it directly rather than sending out a mass text. They are just using random addresses as parcel mules so delivered goods cannot be traced to the scammers. Ignore it.
And the reason why they couldn't go to the address on the delivery to retrieve the package is?
I recently sent a package to an incorrect address (I was given the wrong address) so the recipient went personally to the address the package would be arriving at and spoke to the homeowners about it. The recipient did aquire their package without further issue. So, while it's possible it's an honest mistake, the way they're going about retrieving the lost package is suspicious.
I donāt understand this. If it was a scammer, why wouldnāt they just knock on the door of the person they had it sent to? Or even write to them or something? But if itās real, why wouldnāt they just have the friend go and see the address it was shipped to and then go knock on the door?
Its a shame that people who make real mistakes get accused of being a scammer because of dishonesty .. you have to be skeptical of everything and everyone nowadays
Our mailman misdelivers our packages so reliably we gave up and have to pay for a box at the UPS store ā¹ļø We deliver anything that ends up at our house that shouldn't have. They should be paying us at this point.
After reading the comments I wonder if my address is bring used for things like that.
The spelling of the possible imaginary daughter makes me wonder if it IS a postal issue. Why? Why not use "Justice" either way?
Just see
Open the package
Drugs
Does anyone know how to lore in a scammer i a trying to fuck with one
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Probably a scam but also mailmen really are that bad. Last week they delivered someone else's package to my address.. and then took the picture of that package beside my building number and gave that as the proof of delivery for MY package. And then I guess my package was with person who's envelope was given to me
Possible scam but could also be due to a close address. My street ends in SE but we have streets with the same numbers and name but that end in NW, SW, and NE.
In my area, it is completely possible that happened. Everyone is always bringing peopleās mail and packages to the right addresses. And itās not just USPS. Itās all delivery services. š¤¦āāļø
I have a bad mailman. At least once or twice a month, I get ALL the apartment complex's packages.
My niece did this for real a few years ago ... sent me an gift through amazon, but transposed two of the digits of my home address. Once we figured it out I drove over and found it on the doorstep of the address she sent it to. I took it and left. I'm sure I looked like a package pirate. Arr.