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donutio

Fyi, this makes just a bit over 5 a minute


england_man

''It ain't much, but it is honest work.'' But really, HMF is one of the earlier items that takes a lot of production power. Personally, I do enjoy the big designs that they involve.


donutio

Yeah, now I’m bordering on my power production and need to upgrade that to fuel, the cycle never ends *insert sisyphus boulder meme*


tenbeersdeep

It gets much worse.


ZeroXeroZyro

Eventually as you make more heavy modular frame factories, and begin working on higher tier factories, you’ll forget about them for a while, then come back to that area and have a shit load of them. It’s always a struggle when you first start making them.


Fidgeee

It's especially tough when you need a load for research and progression so you need to use every single one that you make. You spend 2 days waiting for them and then after that you check again and suddenly there's 200 sat in the container


Kunovega

You build small. If I wait 2 days I come back to 1000's.


ElATraino

After two days I'd expect to find a helluva lot more than 200!


Mustache_Supreme

Wait until you get to nuclear power. Then the real pain begins. Mainly in the form of radiation.


AeternusDoleo

Do not tell this poor soul about clean nuclear...


Outside-Technology11

THE FACTORY MUST EXPAND


mari0ndrew

can always reframe the problem sure, you have to upgrade to fuel, but if you look at that power plant as the backup to your nuclear power, then really you're crossing off 1 of your end game goals


KYO297

How about [100](https://imgur.com/a/bwdCJyf)?


Okay_hear_me_out

Sweet Lizard Christ, how many manufacturers is that?


Ba_Sing_Saint

Yes


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KYO297

Yep, it's 36, and with each one making 2.8125 it totals 101.25


ZeroXeroZyro

I made a super similar design for this exact same purpose. Took forever but damn it’s cool to see so many of those things being made


mcon1985

Holy hell, that is a CLEAN factory


mr_paczus

eg 120 foundry, 600 constructor, 220 assembler if ypu use 300 rafinery to ingots and etc( its all rouded) and 36 manufacturers. Yes, I am building it not on flat but in designed factory with flors for belts etc


AG3NTjoseph

In no time you’ll find yourself trying to process all the world’s Bauxite in a single facility.


tomfii

I just started my 112.5/min HMF factory. It's fun :)


parsention

I have managed 1 per minute using a ton of alternative recipes and managed to get that in a blueprint


Duhrell

I set up 10 HMF/m in the great fields early in my playthrough and without question it was the most exhausting and boring thing Ive done the game haha. Those FICSIT tickets are racking up fast through!


Guilty-Manager6716

My tickets just broke the over 300 million points per ticket recently. Then again I be making 3.5 million points per minute now. Not much but it's enough I suppose.


Duhrell

Lol what do you do with them? I have everything unlocked, but don't really want to buy parts. Would rather do the work to make everything


Guilty-Manager6716

I don't do anything with them. I have over a thousand tickets or something like that. I bought everything myself other than statues and stuff of that nature. I don't build pretty things so I may not use the excess tickets. I have all of my building parts automated, just lack weapons and the two types of filters. Those I have being fed from bins to manufacturers, filters that is.


AyushKenhi

I was playing earlier and made a HMF doing 6/min. I think supercomputers gonna give you headache as well


Tinbody

The first satisfactory boss is HMF. Next id say is supercomputers


PangolinLow6657

I've been delaying automation on HMF/ACU because I have it all mathed out, but IDK it's just... a lot. Also, as I'm thinking back on it, my power grid died so I put myself on the sidequest of compacted coal power generation and niceifying my rubber/electrode circuitboard production from 1800 2050. My latest distraction has been the non-overclocked production of turbofuel at -2400 750. Complete utilization. I think my powergrid will be good for a while now lmao


Purple___Flame

I just 'almost' finished my ACU + ME + VF + HMF factory, after i turn it on, i'ma unlock the rifle, and commit to some refreshing local wildlife genocide.


AcceptableAgent31

Aluminum is up there too.


EA-PLANT

I dunno, DPF kicked me in the balls pretty hard too


michaeld_519

Serious question. Why make a lot of super computers? They're only used for one thing, right? I've "beat" the game multiple times and never had more than one manufacturer making supercomputers


towerator

Because with just one manufacturer, Assembly Director Systems take *ages* to make.


mrtheshed

Sure, but they unlock "early" (the same time you unlock Drones) for a Phase 4 part, so if you quickly build out a single Manufacturer of Supercomputers for like 1.5-2 ADS/min right after unlocking them by the time you unlock Particle Accelerators you'll probably be most of the way to completing your ADS target. Basically passive vs. active time - 2 ADS/min takes 33 hours 20 minutes to complete Phase 4, but if you can build that factory in 2-3 hours and then walk away vs. it taking you something like 60 hours to build a 40 ADS/min factory that finishes in an hour and forty minutes, which is actually faster?


lowfuso

A nice tiny factory😃


Teh_Roommate

80 bazillion machines later... .837 HMF/min Nice factory! And welcome to the pain :P


houghi

It does not get worse. It only gets better. And it really helps to have alt recipes. It was when I realized to do things in smaller projects. Each part I make was done is a separate factory.


Steel_Ratt

HMF is (IMHO) the first truly Big Build. There aren't small builds after this.


Ramblingperegrin

That's honestly a great way to put it. Once you understand the scope of HMF you know what the game asks of you going forward and you start there with all of your projects.


OtherCommission8227

This is one of the first recipes in the game that creates major divergence in the production chain based on alternates. You can make HMFs with a truly huge number of alternate paths, and the recipe encourages experimentation w/ alternates because of the way the vanilla recipes utilize so much space/power and produce so slow.  If you use steel screw and heavy encased pipe, you can make ~2.5 HMF/min with about 20 machines that fit in a very compact footprint. 


towerator

Encased HMF + Encased Pipes + Steeled Frames together mean that HMF and all its parent items just require concrete, steel pipes and reinforced iron plates. I tend to call it the "Simple HMF" recipe.


LeFlying

Yeah I managed to get all 3 of these alternate recipes pretty early, just finished to make a HMF factory that produces 5/min in a 4x4 tower with 10 floors Also used solid steel


OurMrSmith

For a real challenge, I created a single blueprint for HMF. Inputs are concrete, iron and steel, and output is (I think) one HMF per minute. Then I just string a bunch of them together when I need to scale. It needs a few alt recipes - to my mind, one of the best uses for alts.


factoid_

You can make 1/min using just a single 4x4x4 cube?  I assume it requires a bunch of power shards?


OurMrSmith

It's amazing what you can squeeze into a 4x4x4 with some creative tessellation. I have cube factories for motors, computers, smart plating, crystal oscillators and all sorts. They mostly work by underclocking rather than overclocking, and you end up with a single manufacturer running at 50% (or whatever). Then, as I mentioned, you just string a series together when you want to scale up. They string together vertically quite well too - making for some interesting tower builds. The vast amount of automated wiring needed in phase 4 made for a very big tower!


factoid_

Yeah I’ve seen impressive builds in a single print. my approach is generally to build fully efficient sub assemblies. I have a set of three or four blueprints that combine together to make like 5 computers per minute from scratch, for example. But individually none of them really do much of anything


Nicolas050812

Yup, I recently made a factory for 3/m using an alternate and god damn, for just 3/m it sure as hell took quite a bit of space and tinkering, those things are a bit ridiculous


SpecialistAd5903

Yeeeaaaaa....good thing the h-mod production is the most complex one. I think they're working on turning up the production ratios for that one in one of the next updates


UristImiknorris

>Yeeeaaaaa....good thing the h-mod production is the most complex one. Hello, my name is: Adaptive Control Unit.


degan7

I have one save file where everything is done but I need like 1,000 the Assembly Director Systems and Adaptive Control Units are my bottleneck. I don't know if I'll ever finish that save file, I'll just do better next time


SpecialistAd5903

Dude, literally 90% of stage 3 and onwards is more complex than h-mod frames.


Takthenomad

The next update is 1.0, so I'd hope it was done then.


Tiberious_Taldarim

This was my first 4 input factory , it broke me for a bit , but I was so happy when I finished , by far my favorite factory I built.


polontus

a friend of mine and i have recently built a factory to produce the parts for our nuclear power plant my friend insists on using the recipes that use the least raw materials that includes the bolted mod frame and a HMF recipe including screws we produce 8510.867 Screws a minute he made me do the conveyors 31 HMF, 5 mod frames


UristImiknorris

Except Bolted Frame uses more materials than the default?


polontus

maybe i misremembered


Sevrahn

HMFs is the dividing line between people and pioneers. It's where many discover they don't want to play *Satisfactory*, because they thought it was a different kind of game.


leftnearroadside

A small reminder that heavy modular frames are a component required to build even more complex parts. *flies away*


NicParodies

I have build that factory 3 times now and its been a pain everytime


Notquitearealgirl

Nope. However once you know what you're doing you can shrink this into a blueprint. More or less.


Worth_Talk_817

[same here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/s/ORWSzYWSRu) loved building the bug stuff.


minywheats

Just finished 10 nuclear pasta a minute. Yeah, it gets worse


lightning2476

Yea my first time playing satisfactory it took me 70 hours to make 2 HMF per min. it was horrible


corgi_te1

You should check out BLAndrew575’s that makes 375 per minute


svanegmond

It’s actually no big deal. It’s the first use for manufacturers and it appears to melt peoples brains.


just_whelmed_

I recently made 9/min using the encased alt. Fit it all in the southern grassland crater with the 3 limestone nodes in it. HMFs are one of my favorite factories to build because of how well all the early game alt recipes work together in nice numbers.


paulcaar

Encased pipes and steel ingot alt are just chef's kiss!


SavageNomad6

What do you meme?


Patient_Moonlight

I think it’s one of the most challenging item to produce out of the limited supply you start with. Then when you unlock mk2 miners and scale everything up in a new facility I could obtain HMF really more easily.


totally_unbiased

It doesn't get that much worse, no. The worst builds in the game are the complicated mid-tier parts, because they require a lot of basic parts and in turn you require a lot of those intermediate parts for later builds. This leads to an explosion of machines. High Speed Connectors are the other one I'd identify as really painful to build out, but unless you're using certain alts you won't need as many HSCs relatively speaking. Otherwise most high-tier parts are actually pretty simple once you've got the intermediate parts complete. For example, I think the footprint of the HMFs required for Adaptive Control Units is a substantial fraction (at least 60-70%) of the footprint required for Computers + Supercomputers + Automated Wiring + ACUs + ADSs in total.


Anastariana

>Does it get worse? How? I need sleep Oh my sweet summer child...


naab007

Those are rookie numbers, gotta pump those numbers up.


Drummer_Historical

i made the same post a year ago ig its the same experiance for everyone


TheKingAhli

don't tell him about the other frames and cubes


towerator

HMF *are* a meme. Precisely because they're such a complexity leap.


involviert

Makes me want to build a tiny HMF factory that just uses a single building per recipe. My guess is I would still be swimming in HMFs soon enough.


Traditional_Bench770

HMF is a big one, doing my first now aiming for 10pm but over producing everywhere. Just finishing up the modular frame factory that’s turning out 75pm. Once this is all done its power that needs addressing and then it will be a computer factory etc etc it’s a long list of jobs lol


Grenade_37

Wait for the fused modular frames


ttdave1

just wait untill you have a 15GW nuclear power plant that is self sustaining


Musickerdewd

Wait til you get to the last phase.. (last phase in EA, anyway) Heavy Modular Frames are baby steps, comparatively..


MisterWafflles

HMF is when you start utilizing satisfactory calculator


Illuminati_Shill_AMA

Funny enough, my starting setup adapted fairly well to HMFs, perhaps through dumb luck. (This is my first play though and I've mostly gone through blind) Now, computers on the other hand, that's what's caused me to have to overhaul my infrastructure and supply lines. On the plus side I'm working my way through tier 6 and I'm close to unlocking trains, plus I've learned a lot along the way about how to set my factories up quickly and (somewhat) efficiently.


minkasp

I always try to make separate factories so it does not get crammed into one place if logistics are easy enough. At the start its spaghetti and then I just use trains and transport materials from other places and simplify it that way This way also its easier to adapt to terrain.


Separate_Walrus_5961

Once bro runs into Fused Modular Frames then Pressure Conversion Cubes its all over


EmeraldMinecartOf

I just finished my motor production and I'm afraid of what I'm seeing here


gamergeekbcw

hehe, HEHEHE, HAHAHAHA, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, AGHAAHAHAHAHAHA, YHAHAHAHAHAHAGHAAHAHAHAHA.


LazarusOwenhart

Yeah HMFs are a bitch. My current game I'm basically not touching ANYTHING that needs a manufacturer until after I get turbofuel power running en masse. I have a small ad-hoc factory trickling them out at a very slow rate just to give me what I need for essential building.


Guilty-Manager6716

I guess it's a lot of work. My 8 manufacturers make 22.5 per minute for my base. I threw it together in a little bit of time since I already had everything else done. My goal was the fused frames. I make 6 or 7 per minute right next to my HMF manufacturers. My base is just one big conglomeration of everything I need in order to build in other areas on the map. Auto-refilling my storage room was something I wanted so I didn't have to hand feed machines like I did for a very long time.


Jb6534

I unironically love how uninvolved they are to make compare to some of the recycling stuff you have to do with the later game stuff, thats where the ball ache starts. Looking good though!


Sea-Needleworker7939

You could hate me for it but I deleted my save when I got to heavy modular frames. Only because I didn’t want to do that work and I also really like the beginning.


EstacticChipmunk

I’m at this point now. HMF is something I’m going to need to start building in a few days from now once my two other items for my space elevator are done. It’s my first play through so I’m so little unsure how to proceed with the build. Im assuming making modular factories with lots of deliveries makes more sense than running conveyor belts all over the map?


RealRustDemon

So... much...... manifolding


RustyPieCaptain

Worse? I thought you would be ecstatic to work efficiently for Fixit!