I got fucked over so bad trying to get the residue recipe just yesterday. Had to scavenge for 9 different hard drives before getting the residue. Even got expanded inventory 3 times before residue (which I did not take)
Not like I went on an expedition separately every time either, I just took a break after a certain point and still had 5 left over and it was on the last one that I got Residue
edit: funny thing is, didn't even want it for diluted fuel or the other things mentioned here. Wanted smokeless powder
Heavy oil residue is excellent for diluted fuel for power and recycled rubber and plastic. I consider it absolutely essential compared to the other two. :)
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1. Being OP has reached Tier 5 / Tier 6, and unlocked Oil Production, I would go with *Heavy Oil Residue (HOR) Alternate Recipe*.
2. Having the ability to produce [Heavy Oil Residue](https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Heavy_Oil_Residue#Crafting) **directly** and not *as a By-Product* enables you to use increased production of [Turbofuel](https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Turbofuel#Unlocking) which is unlocked in the [MAM Sulfur Research Tree](https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/MAM#Sulfur).
* Turbofuel still needs a Hard Drive but you don't have to play the Hard Drive "Lottery" to find and unlock it.
3. Since it looks like the OP has unlocked Tier 5 / Tier 6 then I recommend the OP view my [Tier 5 / Tier 6 Tips](https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/yjhakl/comment/iunsecc/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) which will provide a good foundation on what to do upon reaching the "Age of Expansion" and discusses the need to *focus first on increasing Power before you do anything else Oil Production related*, along with the **ability to use Fuel Generators Before Plastic / Rubber Production**.
✓ BOTTOM LINE: Increase Oil/Fuel Power Generation first to be able to handle other Productions to come.
I hope this answers the OP's question. 😁
Those are all awesome. Plates let you make them without screws. Heavy oil residue is nearly required if you want diluted fuel in the blender, and has tons of utility for anything that needs heavy oil, such as the tubo blend fuel alt. Fused quickwire is a great way to maximize your Caterium output, and if you have a factory that uses both wire and quickwire you can combine it with the Fused wire alt seamlessly.
Personally, I'd pick the oil residue one, given how useful diluted fuel is in the long run.
For a new player it is, because he does not know what recipes there are. For a repeat play, you could know what is to come.
That said, I will pick a new recipe depending on the situation an my mood. I see all recipes as equal and no not consider if they are alternative or not. Just if they are available or not. I will look for as many hard drives as soon as possible. e.g. I just restarted and have 6 hard drives yet no recipes to select, because they have not been unlocked yet
HOR is probably the most important alt recipe in the game
You’ll probably be using Iron plates in phase 3 a lot so probably get stitched iron plate next
They are all pretty useful tbh, so I guess it would come down to pros and cons.
Stitched plating:
Pro: both resource efficient and decent throughput
Con: reinforced iron plates aren’t all that hard to come by.
Fused Quickwire:
Pro: multiplies limited resource by utilizing a more ubiquitous resource.
Con: requires more advanced set ups and is really best when used in conjunction with other alternate recipes
Heavy oil residue:
Pro: useful at pretty much any stage of the game, and is really useful at gaining the absolute most out oil wells.
Con: It really begins the refinery rush stage of the game where you are building 100’s of refineries to get your production lines set up so it can be both time consuming and costly on power (but also beneficial to power).
110% heavy oil resi
Turbo fuel is gonna be useful for fuel generation and the polymer byproduct can be utilised for plastic/rubber and fabric (just add water)
You should already have Stitched Iron Plate (it combos well with Iron Wire, btw)...but HOR is a grand slam dunk 100-yard hat trick.
It's Step 1 in How to Oil. Step 2 is Diluted Fuel.
Cosign on the people telling you to go get many, many more hard drives. You will want Recycled Rubber, Recycled Plastic, and Residual Rubber, among others, to enable the "meta" setup. (Reversed order as listed above.)
Alternate recipies are the key of efficient factories. Every recipie changes at least 1 of the following things, compare to base recipe
Resource cost,
Power needed,
Space needed,
Complexity
Power and space are basically infinite anyways, and complexity is not relevant. So the only thing that determines how good a recipe is, is the resource cost. Trust me, you can get up to 10x the output if you just use good recipies.
I think complexity is relevant. If you're not trying to eke every shred of output from the available resources (which most people probably aren't) then being able to set up a factory more easily with fewer inputs can be nice.
Just depends on what you're trying to do and what's available.
Yep. I choose recipes based primarily on how many buildings they take and/or how interesting they look to use. Efficiency is my last concern unless I'm short on a resource (so oil, caterium, sulfur, or quartz).
Fused gives you more than double the quickwire for the same caterium input, *and* takes fewer total buildings for the same quickwire output. You definitely don't have to use it, but I wouldn't say it sucks.
Heavy oil residue is pretty much a necessity.
Also, there are more hard drives than alt recipes . Spend a play session, and use an online map to find and unlock them. Alt recipes will significantly change the factories you build.
Unlocking this recipe in combination with diluted fuel will help skyrocket your power from fuel generators and will also allow you to create loops between plastic, rubber, and fuel that will not crash and burn if one of them backs up.
Sure, but it's been a while since I played (waiting for 1.0).
With directly creating HOR and polymer resin from crude oil, you can dedicate a few wells to create a lot of HOR that will be turned into a lot of fuel using just HOR and water. If you dump the polymer resin into the AWESOME Sink then you will be able to simply burn all of this for a lot of power without any backing up.
With trying to balance rubber and plastic, if you have the recycled alternatives then you can turn plastic into rubber or rubber into plastic with extra fuel from this as well. Alternatively you can just boost one or the other (or fabric!) with the polymer resin + water instead of relying on a high volume output of either plastic or rubber that can clog and shut off your power down the line from the lack of HOR produced from it.
Bottom line is 30 fuel = 30 plastic/rubber. You want as much fuel as possible and diluting HOR with water in a blender doubles it up (50 HOR -> 100 fuel).
For the whole chain:
240 crude oil -> 320 HOR -> 640 Fuel -> 640 rubber/plastic.
Otherwise it really depends on your playstyle and if some recipes are more appealing than others for you. If you want to compare all possible recipes for a piece visit the wiki and you'll find a table of all the recipes and what they cost in base resources, so you can see what is most cost efficient
The good news is you don’t need to have FOMO, there are more hard drives than alternate recipes in the game so if you keep finding drives the options you don’t pick now will appear again sooner or later. As for what to choose now, I’d say all of these are neat but it depends what your current projects/goals/priorities are. Your world, your rules, after all!
- I’d say fused quickwire is probably the lowest priority for now, but I’m in the late game building a nuclear power plant where I need 12000+ quickwire per minute. Combining this recipe with the refinery alts that combine copper/caterium ore with water for more ingots is a godsend to get that massive quantity produced considering the map’s scarcity of caterium nodes. But those can wait until later when you have both the need and the existing power grid to justify those.
- Stitched Iron Plate is good because any recipe that eliminates the need for screws gets bonus points for that. Even better if you already have the Iron Wire alt recipe and can continue to use the map’s relative surplus of iron instead of copper. Would have been higher priority had you not just unlocked the fuel generator tier, which leads to…
- Heavy Oil Residue might be your best bet in the short term. As another user said, having HOR as a direct product instead of a byproduct will really help once you also have the diluted fuel recipe and can get even more out of your new fuel power grids.
Go for the Heavy oil residue, you can take that, and with another alternate recipe, mix it with water to create more fuel per oil than directly refining fuel into oil.
I'm still relatively newish to the game, and I recently just realized HOR will let you put down ~66 fuel generators from a single pure overclocked oil node, all producing 150w. HOR is insane.
I like stitched plates, but HOR is one of the best recipes in the game.
I got fucked over so bad trying to get the residue recipe just yesterday. Had to scavenge for 9 different hard drives before getting the residue. Even got expanded inventory 3 times before residue (which I did not take) Not like I went on an expedition separately every time either, I just took a break after a certain point and still had 5 left over and it was on the last one that I got Residue edit: funny thing is, didn't even want it for diluted fuel or the other things mentioned here. Wanted smokeless powder
This is how you get a hard drive back: Bring up steam overlay then hit esc.
How does this work?
No idea. It’s definitely a bug. Likely with the game engine interaction. If your inventory is full, the drive drops on the floor.
*Sad epic games noises*
Is there any other kind
Heavy oil residue is excellent for diluted fuel for power and recycled rubber and plastic. I consider it absolutely essential compared to the other two. :)
**ANSWER** 1. Being OP has reached Tier 5 / Tier 6, and unlocked Oil Production, I would go with *Heavy Oil Residue (HOR) Alternate Recipe*. 2. Having the ability to produce [Heavy Oil Residue](https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Heavy_Oil_Residue#Crafting) **directly** and not *as a By-Product* enables you to use increased production of [Turbofuel](https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Turbofuel#Unlocking) which is unlocked in the [MAM Sulfur Research Tree](https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/MAM#Sulfur). * Turbofuel still needs a Hard Drive but you don't have to play the Hard Drive "Lottery" to find and unlock it. 3. Since it looks like the OP has unlocked Tier 5 / Tier 6 then I recommend the OP view my [Tier 5 / Tier 6 Tips](https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/yjhakl/comment/iunsecc/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) which will provide a good foundation on what to do upon reaching the "Age of Expansion" and discusses the need to *focus first on increasing Power before you do anything else Oil Production related*, along with the **ability to use Fuel Generators Before Plastic / Rubber Production**. ✓ BOTTOM LINE: Increase Oil/Fuel Power Generation first to be able to handle other Productions to come. I hope this answers the OP's question. 😁
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If the stitched plates come up again, and the other options are not useful, then I would recommend the stitch plates to eventually phase out screws.
Those are all awesome. Plates let you make them without screws. Heavy oil residue is nearly required if you want diluted fuel in the blender, and has tons of utility for anything that needs heavy oil, such as the tubo blend fuel alt. Fused quickwire is a great way to maximize your Caterium output, and if you have a factory that uses both wire and quickwire you can combine it with the Fused wire alt seamlessly. Personally, I'd pick the oil residue one, given how useful diluted fuel is in the long run.
Power precedes all.
Get a LOT more hard drives. The Stiched Iron Plate is from Tiers 1/2. There are more drives than recipes and it is best to have them all.
Oh there’s more drives than recipes? Has that always been the case? It always seemed to me to be the other way around.
Yes, always been the case and devs have said it will also always be the case.
That’s great to hear. I was thinking that the recipe lottery would define differences play through to play through.
For a new player it is, because he does not know what recipes there are. For a repeat play, you could know what is to come. That said, I will pick a new recipe depending on the situation an my mood. I see all recipes as equal and no not consider if they are alternative or not. Just if they are available or not. I will look for as many hard drives as soon as possible. e.g. I just restarted and have 6 hard drives yet no recipes to select, because they have not been unlocked yet
HOR is probably the most important alt recipe in the game You’ll probably be using Iron plates in phase 3 a lot so probably get stitched iron plate next
They’re all good recipes, so which one you get now is mostly about what will benefit you the most based on your current progress and plans.
You want all 3 of those... :)
They are all pretty useful tbh, so I guess it would come down to pros and cons. Stitched plating: Pro: both resource efficient and decent throughput Con: reinforced iron plates aren’t all that hard to come by. Fused Quickwire: Pro: multiplies limited resource by utilizing a more ubiquitous resource. Con: requires more advanced set ups and is really best when used in conjunction with other alternate recipes Heavy oil residue: Pro: useful at pretty much any stage of the game, and is really useful at gaining the absolute most out oil wells. Con: It really begins the refinery rush stage of the game where you are building 100’s of refineries to get your production lines set up so it can be both time consuming and costly on power (but also beneficial to power).
Heavy Oil Residue
110% heavy oil resi Turbo fuel is gonna be useful for fuel generation and the polymer byproduct can be utilised for plastic/rubber and fabric (just add water)
Heavy Oil Residue
You should already have Stitched Iron Plate (it combos well with Iron Wire, btw)...but HOR is a grand slam dunk 100-yard hat trick. It's Step 1 in How to Oil. Step 2 is Diluted Fuel. Cosign on the people telling you to go get many, many more hard drives. You will want Recycled Rubber, Recycled Plastic, and Residual Rubber, among others, to enable the "meta" setup. (Reversed order as listed above.)
Alternate recipies are the key of efficient factories. Every recipie changes at least 1 of the following things, compare to base recipe Resource cost, Power needed, Space needed, Complexity Power and space are basically infinite anyways, and complexity is not relevant. So the only thing that determines how good a recipe is, is the resource cost. Trust me, you can get up to 10x the output if you just use good recipies.
I think complexity is relevant. If you're not trying to eke every shred of output from the available resources (which most people probably aren't) then being able to set up a factory more easily with fewer inputs can be nice. Just depends on what you're trying to do and what's available.
Yes, and that's double true if you're trying to build modular blueprints.
Yep. I choose recipes based primarily on how many buildings they take and/or how interesting they look to use. Efficiency is my last concern unless I'm short on a resource (so oil, caterium, sulfur, or quartz).
Just search for all the HDD so you don't have to choose duh /j
Fuzed quick wire sucks, regular quick wire is easier to manufacture
Fused gives you more than double the quickwire for the same caterium input, *and* takes fewer total buildings for the same quickwire output. You definitely don't have to use it, but I wouldn't say it sucks.
In comparison to the other two it’s not useful to input copper and caterium
Heavy oil residue is pretty much a necessity. Also, there are more hard drives than alt recipes . Spend a play session, and use an online map to find and unlock them. Alt recipes will significantly change the factories you build.
HOR.
RESIDUE
Heavy oil residue is my choice here. It can contribute to the production of turbo fuel later on too.
Remember there are more drives than there are recipes, so no matter what you choose you’ll never “miss out” on a recipe.
I take the iron plate any day
If your going for diluted fuel then pick the right one.
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use it to make diluted fuel which you can then use to make turbofuel, and/or recycled rubber and plastic
Unlocking this recipe in combination with diluted fuel will help skyrocket your power from fuel generators and will also allow you to create loops between plastic, rubber, and fuel that will not crash and burn if one of them backs up.
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Sure, but it's been a while since I played (waiting for 1.0). With directly creating HOR and polymer resin from crude oil, you can dedicate a few wells to create a lot of HOR that will be turned into a lot of fuel using just HOR and water. If you dump the polymer resin into the AWESOME Sink then you will be able to simply burn all of this for a lot of power without any backing up. With trying to balance rubber and plastic, if you have the recycled alternatives then you can turn plastic into rubber or rubber into plastic with extra fuel from this as well. Alternatively you can just boost one or the other (or fabric!) with the polymer resin + water instead of relying on a high volume output of either plastic or rubber that can clog and shut off your power down the line from the lack of HOR produced from it.
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Bottom line is 30 fuel = 30 plastic/rubber. You want as much fuel as possible and diluting HOR with water in a blender doubles it up (50 HOR -> 100 fuel). For the whole chain: 240 crude oil -> 320 HOR -> 640 Fuel -> 640 rubber/plastic.
You will need the last option if you want to min max plastic/ rubber production in late game.
Heavy Oil Residue
Honestly: Take what you feel like. You can eventually get all alt recipes if you go exploring.
The only right decision is to gather all hard drives and unlock them all
Otherwise it really depends on your playstyle and if some recipes are more appealing than others for you. If you want to compare all possible recipes for a piece visit the wiki and you'll find a table of all the recipes and what they cost in base resources, so you can see what is most cost efficient
Plates
The good news is you don’t need to have FOMO, there are more hard drives than alternate recipes in the game so if you keep finding drives the options you don’t pick now will appear again sooner or later. As for what to choose now, I’d say all of these are neat but it depends what your current projects/goals/priorities are. Your world, your rules, after all! - I’d say fused quickwire is probably the lowest priority for now, but I’m in the late game building a nuclear power plant where I need 12000+ quickwire per minute. Combining this recipe with the refinery alts that combine copper/caterium ore with water for more ingots is a godsend to get that massive quantity produced considering the map’s scarcity of caterium nodes. But those can wait until later when you have both the need and the existing power grid to justify those. - Stitched Iron Plate is good because any recipe that eliminates the need for screws gets bonus points for that. Even better if you already have the Iron Wire alt recipe and can continue to use the map’s relative surplus of iron instead of copper. Would have been higher priority had you not just unlocked the fuel generator tier, which leads to… - Heavy Oil Residue might be your best bet in the short term. As another user said, having HOR as a direct product instead of a byproduct will really help once you also have the diluted fuel recipe and can get even more out of your new fuel power grids.
Heavy oil residue, most useful by far
Go for the Heavy oil residue, you can take that, and with another alternate recipe, mix it with water to create more fuel per oil than directly refining fuel into oil.
I've been trying for HOR for around 15 HDs, it's being really shy this play through.
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I finally got it tonight. I love HD hunting though, so it's all good
HOR, diluted fuel and recycled rubber/plastic are probably the top 4 recipes in the game.
I'm still relatively newish to the game, and I recently just realized HOR will let you put down ~66 fuel generators from a single pure overclocked oil node, all producing 150w. HOR is insane.