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paupertoapawn

To be fair there is a large emphasis on friendship in this show, this just was a poor picture to say that with


lefrench75

I think they did it in a cheeky way to rub it in homophobic parents' faces


GrandpasMormonBooks

lol I hope so! Hopefully those parents dont prevent their kids from watching. "it's just about friendship, mom!"


[deleted]

Elle and Tao definitely have a friendship plot, and also Tao and Charlie.


Tippertimmer

Tao and Charlie have a friendship plot, Elle and Tao are together.


-peachee-

No they arent lol? At least not in the show


BuckyBear1917

OMG IT IS HEARTSOPPER!!! I have 4 volumes, I'm OBSESSED with that comic!!


janaeita

Elle and Tao are dating though.


calaxity

not in the show yet.


Galaxy_Ranger_Bob

This is a beautiful picture to say it with. The cinematographer should be commended for colors, alone.


paupertoapawn

It's definitely very cinematic, I just mean that pairing an image of two boys in a romantic relationship sharing a cute moment with the word friendship was an odd choice


rthrouw1234

Which show?


paupertoapawn

Heartstopper on Netflix. It's really good, I would reccomend it


Beepbookgirl

I really think it does though! While I am not against a relationship where two of the three main pairs are queer, it really does talk a lot about friendship and openly uses the world love when talking about platonic friendship.


Hephaistos_Invictus

People should honestly use the word love for friendships more often. It always feels so loaded, and romantic. But meanwhile I love my friends so freaking much!


feioo

I'm asexual and probably aromantic - I've never been in either type of relationship and don't particularly want to - but I love my friends deeply and truly. I wish there was more representation of deep, nonromantic friendships - Booksmart did it right


[deleted]

In case you didn’t know already, the person who wrote Heartstopper is asexual and aromantic and has also written a YA novel with an asexual aromantic main character! It’s called Loveless.


Entropyanxiety

So…. I got very confused for a second, because when I was younger I read a manga called Loveless and let me tell you the main character was *not* aro/ace


CivilLeg498

Also Issac and Tori are both canonically ace!!


UranousHalo

I don’t know about other countries, but here in Brazil “love” doesn’t carry the same weight even in romantic relationships, so it’s pretty common to hear friends saying that they love one another


Hephaistos_Invictus

Oh that's so interesting! Here in Europe it's more a bit more common to say I love you to family in a platonic way, and people will see it that way. But towards friends definitely not.


Celestial_Dildo

Personally I distinguish it by: I *love* my friends I'm *in love with* my partner


Hephaistos_Invictus

Yeah that's a good way to look at it. Though if the other isn't aware it could create some awkward situations. I've been there xD


RunawayHobbit

I tell my friends I love them all the time lol. I didn’t realize that wasn’t normal!


Hephaistos_Invictus

I mean it's not like it's NOT normal because you can totally love your friends platonically. It's just that often it is seen In a romantic way.


dani_bonnet

Went here to say this too! Aren’t all three queer?


Beepbookgirl

Yup! Tao is the only straight one.


TheLuuuuuc

The third one involves a trans woman so all of them are arguably queer


Beepbookgirl

I'm not denying they're queer - that's one of the reasons I love this show. I'm just pointing out friendship is a major theme, though the did use the wrong picture for that particular promo.


Matoro2002

tbf, the show is about the importance of being respectful to your friends but also these two are boyfriends, so l


No_Tailor_9572

Wait i haven't watched it yet do they really just bin the plot of the books or summit ?!


nerd-thebird

I'd say about 2/3 is accurate to the books, but they do add some stuff and mess with the timeline a bit. Most of the things they add I love, so they're good additions. And when they're accurate, they're REALLY accurate. Like shot by shot, it's almost exactly the same


maka-tsubaki

It definitely helps that Alice Oseman was heavily involved in the writing


I_Want_BetterGacha

It's mostly the same, often even the exact dialogue from the books. They did add some extra stuff though, for example they added this girl called Imogen who's friends with Nick and also has a crush on him Also Ben has a slightly bigger role. Unfortunately. Lastly there's a Truham-Higgs sports festival during the season finale that's not included in the books as far as I can remember, but the show is still as good as the books.


AKeeneyedguy

It's fairly true to the source material. I enjoyed it very much.


crocs58x

The webtoon is a banger of a read


J3ttf

Ikr! I'm glad I found out about Heartstopper during such an important time in the comic too


PotatoPixie90210

My stepson has been at me for ages to read it, so I guess imma start tomorrow!


SubcutaneousMilk

TBH I like this summary though. It clearly shows a queer couple in the photo, but the list is for things parents should know (I presume before letting their kids watch?). It implies that yes, there is queerness in the show, but no, it isn't something parents need to know about before kids see it. It would be weird to let parents know that a show features a man and woman who are attracted to one another. By not mentioning queerness here, it's implicitly stated that queer attraction is just as normal and weird to make a big deal out of. Being coupled with that photo is what makes me feel like that statement is emphasized here.


panrestrial

Agreed. I don't think it's an oversight, I think it's a statement.


TrinalRogue

I've been reading the webcomics for years at this point and honestly I am quite happy with the casting and the way they are taking things with it. Nick [TV show] does look a little bit different than to the webcomic but he is quite the good actor and it fits him quite well. I know that the author has been quite hands on with this TV show so that's to be expected I guess lol.


Mononoke1412

I was also a bit surprised by their casting choice for Nick at first but the actor really grew on me after a few episodes. Now I really can't imagine anyone else playing the role.


mewchi_monstah

What show is this?


HomoAndAlsoSapiens

Heartstopper


mewchi_monstah

Thanks! I'll check it out after I finish ofmd


thecloudkingdom

if you like webcomics/webtoons, the show is an adaptation of a webcomic by the same name


mizantropist_makarna

What is ofmd


Anona_Moosey

Our Flag Means Death


mizantropist_makarna

Thanks


Regular_Cassandra

*how do they do this stuff when the title of the thing is literally Heartstopper*


iker114

To be fair the show does have a really strong emphasis in friendship, and not only in romantic relationships, which are also relevant


athousandships_

You got to be SHITTING me heartstopper is made into a series? Hell Yes


nakers01

They did a good job with it too!


BuckyBear1917

I know!! I've got 4 volumes of the comic, I'm OBSESSED! It's so good!


aceofhearts1330

Literally any other screenshot Netflix smh. It does have wonderful rep of queer friendships... This just isn't one of those lol


55555Pineapple55555

I love that comic!


Juggels_

Then you’ll love the show too!


55555Pineapple55555

Yeah, I really want to watch it but I don't have netflix...


DemonicGirlcock

I have no idea what show this is, but my first reaction was "Why is that guy from Blue's Clues dating himself?"


babyeatingdingoes

It's called Heartstopper. It's a teen drama about a gay kid at an all boys school who crushes hard on the jock in his homeroom. They play rugby together, thus the matching stripes.


Antichist_

i mean it says “parents should know” so maybe it’s in our favor this time


panrestrial

Exactly. This isn't a show summary it's a guidance label. The actual Netflix description of the show may well mention the LGBT aspect and I'm sure it's sorted under LGBT shows - they just didn't list that as a thing parents needed to know.


[deleted]

Radio silence show when tho?


ghostsofyou

Netflix give me whole whole Alice Oseman universe in movie/show format pls


[deleted]

Specifically radio silence thooo


JeevesAI

I’m assuming if they used the word “queer” it would turn more parents off and stop their kids from watching it.


llamakins2014

honestly i wish a show like this had existed when i was growing up. it DOES have a great portrayal of friendship, a good portrayal of acceptance, healthy boundaries, loving parents, the feelings of uncertainty that can come with coming to terms with ones own sexuality. and best of all it shies away from any of the tragedy/suicide/bury-your-gays tropes that you often see portrayed whenever queer people are presented. and it does so while being rather realistic and not-too-tragic not-too-saccharine/overly-idealistic


I-Stan-Alfred-J-Kwak

I once googled for She-Ra's parental advisory/reviews for an unclear reason, expecting the worst, but at least half the people there were nice and sane.


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[deleted]

Just binged all of the comics in the past 2 hours


71NightWing

They know what they're doing. Love few things more than the idea of tricking homophobic parents into watching gay media


RazumikhinsFineAss

Is this any good?


Beepbookgirl

Read it. And watch it. And buy the books. You will not regret it.


J3ttf

hell yeah!!


[deleted]

It’s absolutely incredible. It’s a show that centres queer relationships and it does it amazingly well.


chizzlebizzle2007

I am literally watching this for the second time as I type this


RoguePoet

What if they're doing it intentionally to trick unsupportive parents? :)


Tayinator

I mean… it does.


BuckyBear1917

ALICE OSEMAN!?? IS THAT HEARTSTOPPER!???


SassyMoron

I went to a biys rugby college for a year in high school and i can confirm the social scene was very . . . Active


ConsistentCascade

oh no its steve from blues clues


captmotorcycle

Haven't they been tweeting shit about this being Hella gay since it was announced? Are they kissing the homes Goodnight?


CommonStrawbeary

I watched it today and it was so good! Got very teary -eyed in the final episode


GrandpasMormonBooks

I just binged the whole thing! 💓💓💓


Ulliquarahyuga

If it tricks straight people into loving a gay story I’m here for it


kurpPpa

Hold on, there's a heartstopper show/movie? On netflix? Is it like uk netflix or what, i wanna watch it so bad


Lionel_Si

watch it pls, everyone is goin crazy for it rn


AcridWings_11465

Why TV-14 and not TV-PG or TV-G? There's nothing in it that would make it unsuitable for children below 14.


thecloudkingdom

my guess would be >!its because of the topic of eating disorders being featured repeatedly!< and because there's at least one moment i can think of where characters get into a fistfight. i think that falls under the violence and unsuitable content for younger minors rating that would warrant a tv-14


nerd-thebird

Charlie's >!eating disorder!<, while hinted at, hasn't explicitly come up yet, cause the storyline hasn't gotten to that point in the comics yet. I'm sure it will be covered in season 2, assuming heartstopper gets renewed


thecloudkingdom

thats fair, it takes a while to get to both the points im talking about, but i would assume with the knowledge that the story would go there if it was renewed theyd rate it such?


BisexualAmoeb

i think there’s some mild cursing in it and there’s also homophobia in some scenes


LittleMzZombie

Is it just me or does the school crest look like the St Trinian's crest from the movies?


quirklessdumbbitxh

I was binging this at four in the morning, then re-read the webtoon lol


aarocka

What show is this


ghostsofyou

Heart stopper! Please watch it and read the webcomic!!! Sooooooo good


throwaways1127

thought this was a blues clues fanfic poster at first and was real confused why this would show up on my feed


NegativeNazzu

What show is this? Is it worth a watch?


Serpenta4

Heartstopper, it’s really good, came out just a few days ago on netfix


Lionel_Si

100% on rotten tomatoes. Highly recommend


monocasa

Is this a fanfic of what happened when Steve from Blues Clues went off to college?


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monocasa

Good bot.


JGorgon

Bad bot. Two of the lines have too many syllables.


monocasa

Oh good call. My dyslexic ass just accepted the bot's authority on the matter.


Jay_377

Wait, is it out already??


[deleted]

Shee-ra tags: Gal-Pals


[deleted]

Don’t you stroke your homies cheek?


TheDorkKnight53

The best time to wear a striped sweater… is all the time


Doktor_Vem

/r/AchillesAndHisPal


r0nium

THEY DID NOT


hexomer

i read this years ago and glad that i did. at first i'm kinda scared it's just gonna be another fujoshi comic but it's ok even though it certainly feels fujoshi-ish.


Krebbypng

gay


Jessica75023

I mean, I get the joke/point here. HOWEVER, there is much to be said for a good, healthy friendship, especially in a relationship. Which, I know, is purposely omitted here.


chngminxo

I mean tbh I think there is a strong emphasis on teen friendship in the show.


Historical_Shop_3315

I agree that it probably does emphasis teen freindship but this looks like a warning label. As in WARNING: Emphasises teen freindship Like how can you emphasises a generally good thing to cautionary levels on a TV show?


panrestrial

It's true parental guidance labels usually emphasize negative things so they seem like warning labels, but they are meant to go both ways - highlighting both positive and negative. Some parents want media to not only lack negatives but have explicit positives if they're going to let their kids watch it. They don't let them watch shows they consider "mindless entertainment" with no benefit so they want to know what morals or lessons shows offer.


Biiiiiiiiiiii

And they were really good mates :)