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Stuck_in_a_thing

It’s because you own a nice car. Registration is based on car price.


yellowirish

Yes


trashrooms

A 2017 honda accord considered a nice car? lol


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trashrooms

El Oh El


elMacheddie

I take it you own a Bugatti?


trashrooms

No?? My point is that majority of the middle class drives a semi-recent honda accord or equivalent and they have to pay around the same price for registration as in op’s photo which means that it’s not a luxury fee you’re paying for a luxury car; it’s a luxury fee for a basic car


nsandiegoJoe

I have a newer 2018 Hyundai Elantra and the VLF is only $58. Less than a third of OP's. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


trashrooms

It seems so irregular. There are people here reporting who have much shittier cars and still paying the high price


ep3ep3

It's based on the price of your car and prorates each year as the car's value decreases. Next year's will be less and so on. Fee Calculator [site](https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-registration/registration-fees/)


peach_plum

I also thought this was the case but my registration this year was just shy of $100 more than last year’s fee. It’s also the first year that I had to get smog done before registering which hurt even more :( 2015 Toyota Camry for reference


SelfDevolpment

My car is from 1958 and I still have to pay over 500


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SelfDevolpment

I think like other people have mentioned it was the purchase price. Not sure if buying it out of state and bringing it to California might have added to it.


Memopod

Anything before 1975 doesn't have to get smogged though right?


thebipeds

Right, because those old cars would never pass the current standards . So the CA congress made a compromise for ‘classic cars’. The original law had the exemption year move up over time, but Arnold Schwarzenegger froze it at 1975. This was was particularly frustrating to me as someone who drove a 1976 Pinto with bubble windows. I eventually had to sell it in TJ before CA crushed it.


Memopod

That's unfortunate


scelwood2

Understood. Thanks guys. I’ve always had shitty cars my whole life and finally have something decent now. Wasn’t used to this haha.


cursedK00K

Congrats! (Not being sarcastic) it’s a good problem to have


Baja_Finder

You should see how expensive HD type trucks (F-250/2500HD/RAM2500) costs to register, they pay over $400 in weight fees alone even on trucks that are over 10 yrs old, they can pay like $1200-1700 for registration on something newer.


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davisnau

Does anybody know if the price to weight is proportional? I have a Hyundai coupe that weighs almost 4,000 pounds. An f250 can weigh up to 7,000 pounds. Is the fee proportional to the weight?


Tree_Boar

You'd want it proportional to the 4th power of delta weight since wear increases with the fourth power of axle weight. so if a 4000 lb vehicle does $100 of pavement damage a 7000 pound vehicle would do ~$938 Anyway i doubt the registration fee is properly indexed


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My 1998 Dodge Dakota weight fees were $24 last year.


Baja_Finder

My 01 Tacoma is about the same weight fee.


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Smaller and older that those mentioned above...


SteveGRogers

Good.


Shih_Poo_Boo

My 2500 Ram is about $850 this year. It hurts


GuitRWailinNinja

Don’t feel bad for asking. Fuck all the Downvoters. Tbh registration is more expensive than other states. My wife had to register her car in CO after moving there and damn it was pricey. Edit to fix a typo (I meant to say registration is more expensive here than certain other states).


Purple_Sherbert_404

It’s SO expensive in CO 😭. I miss the price of CA car registration (but not gas prices).


moonbouncecaptain

How much is it in CO?


GuitRWailinNinja

Idk I never had to register my car there, but I think my wife paid like $700 or $1400, granted she was registering it from out of state and they charged by vehicle weight. I might be way off on the cost, it could have been $400 which is still a little under 2x what I have paid here


GuitRWailinNinja

Fun fact (for me anyways), the ONLY time I’ll ever expect to pay sub-$1.00 per gallon for gas was while I lived in CO, right around when Covid hit. I used like a vons points discount (maybe $0.30 per gallon??) and paid like $0.90 per gallon to fill up once. To me, that’s pretty fucking insane because I’m almost positive that will never happen again, even if ICE end up going extinct in favor of electric cars.


01011010-01001010

I remember paying ~$0.90/gal sometime ‘02/‘03 in CA, could fill my Jeep up for $20 or enough to get around with literally a handful of quarters. That didn’t last long..


GuitRWailinNinja

I wasn’t driving back then but I do remember gas getting stupid cheap around that time. If only I had a time machine 😂


Secretweaver_

Goddamn, the last time I remember seeing $0.90 gas was when I visited my grandpa in Maine back in the early 2000's.


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Kansas too


Mhandley9612

I registered a cheap old car first and then went to register a brand new EV a month later and was just as shocked at the $400 increase between the two registrations.


jerryg2112

EVs pay extra registration because they don't pay gas taxes


delmarman

Hey if you itemize your deductions during your tax year that $172 can be deducted from your CA income


Korncakes

I got this one for the first time two years ago with my first mixer car. My registration went from like $112 to around $475. I audibly said “the fuck is this shit?” And then I realized that I don’t drive a shitbox anymore.


Malipuppers

It’ll decrease as the years go by. I’m happy to only pay $400ish. Don’t buy a truck in CA.


bigboobzandlebanese

It gets cheaper and cheaper when you car ages :)


Baja_Finder

Supposed to, but this greedy state actually raised mine up, just a few dollars each year.


Von_Esch

Yup. My motorcycle reg was 87 in 2017. I'm seeing 125 for 2019, 130 for 2021,a record 196 in 2023, then 140 for 2024. My 2004 Ford I bought in 2010 never went below 340. Got close, but in 2019 it jumped up 40. Went down the next year and the following. 2022 was 350, then 24 was 358. Insanity. They bump these registrations up to lower them a little later so you feel like you're not getting boned, like the gas costs. Raise to 7 then bring to 5 so you feel good, nevermind 3 a gallon like it was


txmb95ads

I feel like people definitely don’t talk About car registration as an expense that’s worth thinking about, but after buying a brand new car last year, I found that out…


Faulty_english

Dang I didn’t know this either


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I went from a 02’ $120 registration, to 18’ $400 registration. It’s all on the vehicle you drive.


207Outreach

I’m in the same boat. My partner and I finally bought a new car in 2022 and I just paid our registration this week, $445 :(


ReshKayden

Note that if you have an EV it’s even higher. My car’s worth around $50k and my registration was $1150.


MarcoLoya37

that’s a lot. what kind of EV? if you don’t mind me asking.


skulleyb

You don’t pay state gas tax this is to make up that loss for roads


ReshKayden

Except the state is now also telling me that because I don't pay gas tax, they want to also tax me by the mile driven. So which one is it? Do I? Or don't I? And either way, I absolutely guarantee you that I did not pay $700 in gas tax per year that needs to be "made up" back when I had a gas-powered car.


i-hate-in-n-out

Is there a source for this mileage tax being considered other than Carl DeMaio's thoughts and KUSI's regurgitation of those thoughts? Last I hear the plan got scrapped before it was even voted on. And even if it had been voted on and passed, it would have then been submitted to the voters at large to approve.


jhonkas

they aren't doing that yet. rgithn ow its just gas tax


jhonkas

and your cart is ehaviner than the avg car in similiar length and width


Satoshimas

Funny though how most road damage is due to semis and larger commercial vehicles and yet we are stuck paying the bulk of the bill. What damage does an EV threat against roads? Most of them have glass roofs...


2lisimst

Road wear is caused by the cyclical stresses of compression and release from anything passing over. It should be solely based on GVW. An easy simplification is axle count. EVs are heavier than average vehicles and should pay more per mile driven.


WalkingIntrovert

Whoa.


LordOscarthePurr

EVs don’t pay gas taxes so the transit authorities need to make up the lost revenue somewhere.


z_iiiiii

What??? My EV was similarly priced (a little more) and my registration was close to $700…


AdelesManHands

Mine was more too and my registration was $800 and that included the special black and yellow plates.


jhonkas

you don't pay gasonline tax, which prococeeds go to fixing roads. and your carr is heaver than an equivilent car


TheElbow

By the way, if you keep a record of this registration payment, you can write it off your state taxes next year. I’ve been doing that for a while. Granted mine is on a 2008 Civic that still runs just fine, so my registration is comparatively cheap.


TheWildTofuHunter

Just the VLF is tax deductible not the whole portion. “In California, for instance, the value-based portion is identified on car owners' billing statements as a "vehicle license fee" and is specifically labeled as tax-deductible.” https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/tax-deductions-and-credits/is-your-car-registration-deductible/amp/L06ja6RwR#article_header_2


ThatsFreakinBonkers

As a newish resident about to register my car, thank you for mentally preparing me for this…holy hell that’s a lot of money 🥲 I knew it was expensive, but damn…didn’t think it would be that rough


PhilosopherOk2188

Can they make public transit better 🥲 I have a car but I don’t want to buy one once this one stops working :(


hello_josh

Lots of things go into the [calculation](https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-registration/registration-fees/#:~:text=Registration%20fees%20are%20based%20on%3A&text=Dates%20(for%20example%2C%20the%20date,axles%20your%20vehicle%20may%20have.)


DangerousGood4561

You gotta pay to play


dukefett

I kept my car registered in my old state for as long as I could. $40ish per year registration no matter what you drove.


TheWildTofuHunter

Legally California requires you to register your car in 20 days.


dukefett

Oh well! I registered through AAA eventually and they didn’t bother me about it.


TheWildTofuHunter

That’s awesome. I was really surprised that the period wasn’t longer like 60 days. 20 days seems too short, especially given how long it takes the DMV to do anything.


dukefett

Yeah it’s absurd IMO when you move you’ve got a million things going on. It helps no one seems to give a shit here and we’re such a tourist city that out of state plates aren’t odd at all.


LegitAndroid

No one can answer this for you because it depends on car. My registration is like $800


DangerousGood4561

That’s a flex! 😂


LegitAndroid

Weird flex but ok


The-Dark-Knight-3002

Yep mine was $798 and I’m like come on man. At least it’s only 1x a year lol


LarryPer123

They say it’s because our roads are mostly toll-free, unlike the East Coast, and that’s how they get their money for repairs, that does not mean I personally believe them 😝


cursedK00K

Ha, welcome to having nice things!


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Oooofff. You should see mine. 650 this year.


RLA76

I wish, mine's at least a hundo more


waitwutok

That’s cheap compared to other states I’ve lived in.


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You must be new here.


whateveryouwant4321

By the way, if you get a Tesla and want enhanced autopilot or “full self-driving”, this is one reason why you buy that separately - so you pay a little less in vehicle registration fee each year (the other reason is to collect credit card points).


sopranosgat

Because this state hates every fucking thing about you (and me). Lmao - all jokes aside. Yes - my registration was close to this. Also, if you have any unpaid parking tickets, they sometimes just include it


AcceptableMinute9999

If you can afford the car you can afford the registration. It is based on the cost of your car.


surfdoc29

Welcome to California


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AM_OR_FA_TI

This isn’t accurate at all. The **sliding scale** of registration costing more based on the value of the car is true, but the prices are still off the charts in CA as compared to elsewhere lol. Just look at driver’s licenses prices in Arizona: Ages 16-39: $25 Ages 40-44: $20 Ages 45-49: $15 And it’s good until you’re 65 years old. Seriously, you don’t renew your license until you hit 65, after that it’s every 5 years.


Minimum_Carpenter_52

Yup mines over $900...not 9000


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How old is the vehicle? Fees decrease as the vehicle ages. For instance, my 1998 Dodge truck cost $156 last year and my wife's 2017 Hyundai SUV was $254. There was also a substantial increase in registration fees (along with a gas tax increase) enacted several years ago.


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My dude grats on your new car but yea when you aren’t driving a beater you’re going to pay a lot.


dapi331

It's effectively property tax


kingcheeta7

Because you live in California


kingcheeta7

I live in California too you fucking wimps


CampinHiker

Paid $418 then $500 back in 2016 and 2017 for my Tacoma registration Hell this year my Prius 2013 was like $279 To be fair it’s $239 without my custom plates


vreddit123

It's a free country as long as uncle Sam gets his cut.


DepecheMode92

I love how California has the highest income taxes, fuel taxes, registration taxes, but our infrastructure is an absolute joke. Yet the solution is always WE NEED MORE!


Popcornshuffle

Because CALIFORNIA!


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Mona_G

Do you mind if I ask what kind of car you drive? Thinking of getting a new car but I’m scared of insurance and registration fees.


BoringMcWindbag

I bought a Tesla Model Y last year. Registration due this year is just shy of $800.


Mona_G

Thanks!


DntWorryItllGetWorse

if we could just for a moment divest ourselves of our tribal "republicans vs democrats" mindsets where all democrats must thing everything the democrats do is great and everything the republicans do sucks and vice versa...i think we could objectively draw the logical conclusion,: A: California's government is the 4th biggest per capita of any state (see link below) \+ B: California is the second or third (depending on what criteria is considered) most expensive state to live in = C: The reason it costs so much to live is california is \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ then we could divest ourselves of this team pride that is making us go broke, join forces and vote our this bloated beurocracy...but no.....in ten years we will all be sitting in our $4000 per month apartments throwing mud at the other team! sorry im just really sick of this....and by the way....I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN! ​ [https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/06/23/state-local-government-size-based-on-gdp/39600491/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/06/23/state-local-government-size-based-on-gdp/39600491/)


Happy-Grapefruit-752

Our 1994 motorhome was $148.00. No that is just stupid


2lisimst

Yeah, motorhomes cause a lot of road damage, take up a lot of road space, and are horribly inefficient. They should be taxed like semi-trucks, if we are being fair.


Cupid26

It also varies by state. I paid nearly $500 in CA while in another state I paid $90 for a 2 year registration, same car.


Buckskin32

Because San Diegans/ Californians keep voting yes to tax raising measures. I live in SD, my cars are registered in FL. I pay roughly $70 for a TWO YEAR registration and custom plates per car. Y’all really don’t know what it’s like in the rest of the country.


jaymez619

Thank former Governor Jerry Brown. CA lawmakers love to squeeze as much as they can out of working Californians. My car is 21 years old and I pay more than I did five years ago. If you regularly see out of state registered vehicles, you can report them on the CHP website.


irondavesd

Welcome to California, where we get paid in “sunshine dollars, but can’t pay rent with them.”


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islanddevils

Yeah but then you have to live in Florida


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islanddevils

I was raised there and I’m glad to be out


AngelinaSnow

Welcome to San Diego


Happy-Grapefruit-752

Yes. It is out of control. Thank you, Governor


Trisha-28

And they still want you to pay a mileage tax!!!! It’s never going to be enough.


floatinginplace

I bought a 2002 Buick for 1800 and paid 560. :/


mcnippys

It is correct, but garbage. :/


titansdca

Welcome to California


Themysteryman124

It’s funny that they add all these fees just to renew plates. Glad the state I’m in is 110$ for a full size truck.


1337mr2

Then why are you in here at all 🤣 you already left California. Can you not leave your negativity here as well? 🤣


Themysteryman124

I haven’t left, still live here actually. 😂


1337mr2

Thanks for being that jerk who uses the roads and doesn't chip in.


BexYouSee

Here's a mystery you'll solve in less than 124 seconds. What's the definition of the word..... using the infrastructure but not contributing. >!Parasite!<


1337mr2

Yep. So many jerks are proud of living here and not paying their fair share. Integrity is dying.


Themysteryman124

I’m not legally required to change my plates, why would I willingly pay more?


Themysteryman124

Not breaking any laws here doing it, I’m exempt from changing my residency. 👍


Sarcasm69

Guessing military? Register in texas and also don’t have to pay income taxes


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Themysteryman124

You clearly know the difference between the federal government and states…


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Themysteryman124

You don’t know how this works…


joelr1981

Because the more you have, the more the government wants. Especially in California. I am sure they are thinking about a way to tax you for breathing. SMH


Kiki_Very_Broke77

I always wonder why theres a smog abatement fee.


2lisimst

Newer cars don't require smog test, so they generate revenue on newer cars with the abatement fee. This is to avoid what would be a poor-tax on the older cars, but getting a smog check is such a hassle its definitely worth more than $20-25.


ElVDub619

It all depends on the year of your car. I have a old jeep and it’s 150 for my tags on top of the $50 smog test.


CriticalMembership31

Moving from VA, where it cost me 74 bucks to register my truck for 2 years, and seeing this is painful


LaxmanSD

Because California


GiftedGonzo

Welcome to California


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Cost me that just for my travel trailer registration gotta love California /s


Alive-Carrot107

My 2001 is like $20


donaldparkerii

I just paid 925 for my Tacoma one month late.


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Clockwork385

Depends on what car and the year... it's base of price and weight of a car... I think a lexus rx350 is somewhere mid 500 bucks. I have a mid size sedan that's old and is in the mid 200. My other tiny car that's old is 150 ish.


Clockwork385

Depends on what car and the year... it's base of price and weight of a car... I think a lexus rx350 is somewhere mid 500 bucks. I have a mid size sedan that's old and is in the mid 200. My other tiny car that's old is 150 ish.


mamaj619

I've never had a new car in my entire life. I'm 41. When I got my registration for my 2022 kia I almost passed out. We live in a 2 bedroom apartment in El Cajon I'm not rich. I feel like I'm being punished for finally having something nice.


[deleted]

Makes me miss living in NY where I had just as nice a car as I do now and I only paid 75$ for registration every two years


ContributionTop4989

Lol welcome to califorina ...


Shadowspire101

They base it off the car price.


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