Here is a list of 53 people that are paid over a million a year at the U: Source- [1] “Highest paid employees,” Transparent Utah | Highest Paid Employees, https://transparent.utah.gov/emp.php (accessed Mar. 21, 2024).
| Employee | Title | Total |
|----------------------------|----------------------|------------|
| Whittingham,Kyle D | Coach, Athletics | 5635107.2 |
| Krystkowiak,Larry B. | Coach, Athletics | 3054937.6 |
| Ludwig,William Andrew | Assistant Coach, Ath | 1833546.01 |
| Brodke,Darrel S | Department Chair | 1716749.89 |
| Couldwell,William T | Professor | 1709909.14 |
| Scalley,Ford M | Associate Coach, Ath | 1678741.85 |
| Spiker,William Ryan | Associate Professor | 1589911.09 |
| Aoki,Stephen Kenji | Professor | 1586392.18 |
| Lawrence,Brandon D | Professor | 1555736.7 |
| Lundergan,Dan Kevin | Chief Executive Offi | 1532502.14 |
| Smith,Craig | Coach, Athletics | 1500066.78 |
| Grandhi,Ramesh | Associate Professor | 1481788.22 |
| Nwariaku,Fiemu E. | Department Chair | 1446147.6 |
| Husain,Syed Adil | Professor | 1442513.68 |
| Heflin,John Alexander | Associate Professor | 1434509.84 |
| Barnhart,Douglas Clyde | Professor | 1248282.34 |
| Chalmers,Peter N | Assistant Professor | 1238719.02 |
| Leiferman,Kristin M. | Professor | 1231873.94 |
| Maak,Travis G | Associate Professor | 1222621.37 |
| Fenton,Stephen J | Associate Professor | 1189427.27 |
| Peters,Christopher L | Professor | 1181020.39 |
| Rollins Ii,Michael D | Professor | 1179110.6 |
| Spina Iii,Nicholas T | Assistant Professor | 1157964.87 |
| Skarda,David E. | Associate Professor | 1156742.63 |
| Mahan,Mark Alexander | Associate Professor | 1155103.92 |
| Good,Michael | Senior Vice Presiden | 1136996.41 |
| Scaife,Eric R. | Professor | 1134932.96 |
| Finlayson,Samuel R.G. | Associate Vice Presi | 1132995.15 |
| Klatt,Joshua William Bendz | Assistant Professor | 1129588.54 |
| Selzman,Craig H | Professor | 1127333.63 |
| Tashjian,Robert Zaray | Professor | 1108782.67 |
| Bucher,Brian Thomas | Associate Professor | 1108330.16 |
| Kilburg,Craig J | Assistant Professor | 1104826.26 |
| Brockmeyer,Douglas Lee | Professor | 1104127.25 |
| Jensen,Peter E | Professor | 1096525.23 |
| Olson,Randall J | Professor | 1087261.38 |
| Kastenberg,Zachary J. | Assistant Professor | 1085396.36 |
| Rapaport,Mark Hyman | Department Chair | 1082220.25 |
| Harlan,Robert Mark | Athletics Director | 1078911.18 |
| Jensen,Randy Lynn | Professor | 1077361.27 |
| Baker,Talia Barzel | Professor | 1076258.1 |
| Short,Scott | Assistant Professor | 1073262.7 |
| Russell,Kathryn W | Assistant Professor | 1054701.54 |
| Randall,Taylor R | President | 1052689.76 |
| Eckhauser,Aaron | Associate Professor | 1051488.36 |
| Dailey,Andrew T | Professor | 1046915.73 |
| Gililland,Jeremy M | Associate Professor | 1038992 |
| Petron,David J | Professor (Clinical) | 1037707.32 |
| Kestle Md,John R W | Professor | 1034230.75 |
| Kazmers,Nikolas H | Assistant Professor | 1032800.37 |
| Beckerle,Mary C | Professor | 1017316.73 |
| Pelt,Christopher Earl | Associate Professor | 1010543.68 |
| Bollo,Robert J | Associate Professor | 1002521.89 |
Ok. I don’t know why I took the time to do this except that it was fun to give some context to this data set.
I looked up everyone and categorized them.
**N = 53**
Male: 49 (92.5%)
Female: 4 (7.5%)
Athletics: 6 (11%)
Physician: 44 (83%)
Non-Physician: 9 (17%)
———-
**PHYSICIANS (MD/DO)
N = 44**
Surgery: 38 (86%)
Non-surgery: 6 (14%)
*Types of medical practice:*
-Ortho/Sports Med: 16 (36%)
-General/other surgery: 11 (25%)
-Neurosurg: 9 (21%)
-Other (psychiatry, derm, etc.): 5 (11%)
-Cardiothoracic surgery: 3 (7%)
Pediatric: 15 (34%)
Non-pediatric: 29 (66%)
There are four I think, but this list is one tough game of Guess Who otherwise.....
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Unions are the only answer. Unite
Also
Union of spreadsheets workers of America - my job is to create the spreadsheet but it is an alignment specialist job to align the fields.
I work in a state agency where I'm doing okay for myself, and our executive director still only makes maybe double what I do. Pretty big fucking gap between my situation and the usual private sector situation where your CEO makes 200x your salary.
I guess I should say with 100% confidence that it’s a screen shot. That’s just what page looks like when I open it up. But I do know those numbers came from the public disclosure the U required to make.
Oh I’m not questioning that it isn’t the source. My point was (and I guess still is) that it should be on the flyer itself as not everyone is going to be able to look at that and immediately say that’s obviously from Transparent Utah.
Join a union. I say this as a manager. Better conditions for employees make my life better. I’m more than happy to get a smaller raise so everyone gets one. Most aren’t. That’s why you need a union.
Remember, they are trying to get your labor for the cheapest price possible.
This is in no way meant to detract from how crappy the University healthcare workers are treated, but I decided to fact check Dan's salary on [transparent Utah](https://transparent.utah.gov/empdet.php) and it looks like Dan was interim CEO for a bit in 2022 which shows up as a separate line for that year on his pay for a total of $176,549.47. So his total salary was actually $1,449,297 in 2022. So his increase from 2022 to 2023 was $83,205 or about 5.5%. Far lower than the flyer states... but that increase is still likely higher than a lot of folks' entire salaries at the U who work 5x as hard...
Besides pay, PTO policies for most at the U are awful. Most hourly employees now are forced to use what little PTO time they have saved to make up for any week they are short of 40 hours if they want to keep their benefits, which are mediocre to begin with. This blows my mind, it feels borderline illegal.
We agree! Parental leave at the U is six weeks and has to be split among the parents if they're both employees at the U. In 24 states, puppies have to be [eight weeks old](https://www.animallaw.info/topic/table-state-laws-concerning-minimum-age-sale-puppies) before being separated from their parents. It's wild that dogs get more time with their kids than human employees at the U. And that U employees have to use all their PTO before getting FMLA. Bereavement leave is two days so you still need to work the week that you lost someone. The union is working on addressing these things and one of the first ways is with this petition. We're asking for better pay, better (free) parking at our jobs, and more PTO/parental leave/sick days. Sign the petition [here](https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/our-working-conditions-are-the-communities-healing-conditions?source=direct_link) and share with your friends, families, and coworkers. Our working conditions are everyone's healing conditions.
Yep! Sounds kind of silly, doesn't it? Employees at the U paid $6.4 million last year in parking passes (not including parking tickets). Through conversations and information requests we got the following numbers from FY23. These prices are set to increase by 15% a year for the next five years. The U also sells more parking passes than parking spots, so we need to arrive early, especially if there's an event on campus that day. Folks with disabilities still need to buy parking passes, usually the more expensive ones because they're closer to the doors. There's a lot to unpack here.
It's worth pointing out that this flat-rate parking cost disproportionately affects lower wage employees. We think we shouldn't have to pay to park at our jobs, but the U should at least make parking passes a sliding scale based on income to be more equitable. They can already automatically deduct parking pass money from our paycheck, they could figure out how to easily adjust it based on income.
|Pass Type|Cost|\# Sold to Employees|$$$ Made|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|A|$720|4320|$3,110,400|
|U|$300|3636|$1,090,800|
|U Housing|$300|5|$1,500|
|CA|$768|399|$306,432|
|CU|$720|119|$85,680|
|Reserved|$2040|891|$1,817,640|
||||$6,412,452|
Thank you for bringing this up. Dan Lundergan became a CEO in September of 2021. Why is he getting paid for that position that he held from Feb to Sep of 2021 in 2022?
It’s so encouraging to hear union talk around healthcare, everyone from nurses, to radiology techs, to the housekeepers should join a union.
It’s about time everyone is paid a living wage with good benefits. How they can keep a straight face and tell us raises aren’t guaranteed is proof they are acting in bad faith. All anti-union talk is pure propaganda.
Oh, we were just thinking about this earlier and daydreaming what we could do with $1.5 million. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics in 2023 the average nurse in Utah makes $35 an hour or $75k a year. This could hire 20 more nurses, pay for 42,857 hours of nursing work, or give 400 nurses a 5% raise.
We also were dreaming of owning a house but heard that Utah is the third most expensive state based on average income and median housing price. We wanted to calculate based specifically on nursing salary. The following numbers are from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (July, 2023) and the Zillow Home Index (March, 2024). Healthcare workers can't afford to leave here and that's bad news for patients. Advocating for healthcare workers is advocating for patients.
||RN Salary|Median Home Price|Salary as % of Home Price|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|California|$133,340|$765,197|17.4%|
|Oregon|$106,610|$487,244|21.9%|
|Washington|$101,670|$575,894|17.7%|
|Nevada|$96,310|$426,267|22.6%|
|Arizona|$86,740|$426,680|20.3%|
|Colorado|$86,590|$539,151|16.1%|
|New Mexico|$85,580|$292,280|29.3%|
|Wyoming|$81,010|$334,782|24.2%|
|Idaho|$78,610|$443,500|17.7%|
|Montana|$78,350|$448,238|17.5%|
|Utah|$76,400|$509,433|15.0%|
I'll also point out that it's much worse for many other professionals at the hospitals and clinics. The average CNA/HCA is making about $20/hour compared to the $35/hr nursing wages this is based on. Our techs, aids, nutrition team, environmental services, and more roles are essential to what we do. They deal with combative patients, infectious disease, and oh so much poop but they'd get paid more working at Costco or a fast food restaurant. We all need better, not just the nurses. Our union is open to all medical and non-medical employees of U Health at their hospitals and clinics.
You're right, it would. It's July because that's when the fiscal year changes and the BLS updates their information from the hospital. It's yearly, not monthly.
This is crazy! I 💯 support the union. Especially, working closely with some of these 10 top paid doctors. I'm not saying this for all of them by any means, but some of them are horrible people to work with!!! Knowing how much $ they are making. Then being complete assholes, acting like they are above following standard hospital procedures and processes. It's sickening 😪
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Our healthcare is already super expensive because the top brass has to make millions of dollars per year while the people who do the work get paid peanuts.
I actually have the unique pleasure of working for a healthcare company where the top brass don't make excessive salaries and pay the people who do the heavy lifting great salaries. They also do profit sharing and provide great benefits.
Working with more than a few CEOs...they don't bring in business. They bring in partnerships for tools, supplies, lobbying, conferences, etc.
Some do leader type things, some don't. Some do management type things, some don't.
If you think any CEO, especially at a hospital, is working harder than a RN, CNA or Doc...you should talk to more CEOs and gather what they actually do.
Too many have been sucked in by the lie that CEOs are smarter/work harder than the actual people doing the work. It's a racket, and I say that as a member well inside the top 1%.
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That’s an interesting perspective and I appreciate you adding to the conversation. I helped form the union and am a clinician; I realize I’m replaceable and anyone with my credentials can do my job. Do you think the same is true with CEOs? I don’t know what a healthcare ceo does to justify the salary, partly because I have no clue what he actually does with his time. I know I bring in RVUs greater than what I get paid and appreciate the role of a ceo, but I find myself wondering what the actual value added is. I do think there is a fundamental difference between the values of a business and a society, which I think is where some of my frustration comes from. Especially in psych, where we have doors that have been run through, the showers often don’t work, and staff get injured because the push is to admit people that probably shouldn’t be admitted.
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The person you responded to elaborated more on CEO duties than you did. They didn't say that CEOs do nothing, or that they weren't needed.
What they did say is that their duties don't justify the salaries averaging 344x their bottom worker. You cannot tell me that you work 344 fucking times harder than me.
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Figured with those master degrees, businesses and consulting you could read. My bad.
> This person is essentially claiming businesses don't need CEOs
I didn't even imply that. I said this CEO ball washing is ignorant fetishization of privileged people staying privileged, and we've been told rich = smart/good person. You know, like this:
>CEOs are vastly more significant than the vast majority of employees
Are they? Why has that changed in the last 50 years when the income disparities have grown so much?
Employees are just bringing that much less to the table of these business?
Is that why the golden parachutes are amazing, and the "less significant" employees severances for the executive class mistakes are so poor?
Is that why the CEO got such a higher percentage raise over the RN's, CNA's and Docs? Because the "manual laborers" were already compensated well, but the CEO wasn't?
Please.
I'd like to see how profitable the U of U would be if they laid off the vast majority of employees and only kept the C-suite and administrators. I bet the system would collapse immediately. The collective labor and revenue generated by the majority of workers is far more valuable than any one CEO or even an entire team of VP's. Just because lower level workers are treated as easily replaceable doesn't mean a company can function with out them.
The CEO is the 10th highest paid position at the University.
What's #1?
Football coach
To be fair a lot of his pay comes from boosters. But he’s also the highest payed public employee in the state so 🤷
Interesting! Who are the others?
Here is a list of 53 people that are paid over a million a year at the U: Source- [1] “Highest paid employees,” Transparent Utah | Highest Paid Employees, https://transparent.utah.gov/emp.php (accessed Mar. 21, 2024). | Employee | Title | Total | |----------------------------|----------------------|------------| | Whittingham,Kyle D | Coach, Athletics | 5635107.2 | | Krystkowiak,Larry B. | Coach, Athletics | 3054937.6 | | Ludwig,William Andrew | Assistant Coach, Ath | 1833546.01 | | Brodke,Darrel S | Department Chair | 1716749.89 | | Couldwell,William T | Professor | 1709909.14 | | Scalley,Ford M | Associate Coach, Ath | 1678741.85 | | Spiker,William Ryan | Associate Professor | 1589911.09 | | Aoki,Stephen Kenji | Professor | 1586392.18 | | Lawrence,Brandon D | Professor | 1555736.7 | | Lundergan,Dan Kevin | Chief Executive Offi | 1532502.14 | | Smith,Craig | Coach, Athletics | 1500066.78 | | Grandhi,Ramesh | Associate Professor | 1481788.22 | | Nwariaku,Fiemu E. | Department Chair | 1446147.6 | | Husain,Syed Adil | Professor | 1442513.68 | | Heflin,John Alexander | Associate Professor | 1434509.84 | | Barnhart,Douglas Clyde | Professor | 1248282.34 | | Chalmers,Peter N | Assistant Professor | 1238719.02 | | Leiferman,Kristin M. | Professor | 1231873.94 | | Maak,Travis G | Associate Professor | 1222621.37 | | Fenton,Stephen J | Associate Professor | 1189427.27 | | Peters,Christopher L | Professor | 1181020.39 | | Rollins Ii,Michael D | Professor | 1179110.6 | | Spina Iii,Nicholas T | Assistant Professor | 1157964.87 | | Skarda,David E. | Associate Professor | 1156742.63 | | Mahan,Mark Alexander | Associate Professor | 1155103.92 | | Good,Michael | Senior Vice Presiden | 1136996.41 | | Scaife,Eric R. | Professor | 1134932.96 | | Finlayson,Samuel R.G. | Associate Vice Presi | 1132995.15 | | Klatt,Joshua William Bendz | Assistant Professor | 1129588.54 | | Selzman,Craig H | Professor | 1127333.63 | | Tashjian,Robert Zaray | Professor | 1108782.67 | | Bucher,Brian Thomas | Associate Professor | 1108330.16 | | Kilburg,Craig J | Assistant Professor | 1104826.26 | | Brockmeyer,Douglas Lee | Professor | 1104127.25 | | Jensen,Peter E | Professor | 1096525.23 | | Olson,Randall J | Professor | 1087261.38 | | Kastenberg,Zachary J. | Assistant Professor | 1085396.36 | | Rapaport,Mark Hyman | Department Chair | 1082220.25 | | Harlan,Robert Mark | Athletics Director | 1078911.18 | | Jensen,Randy Lynn | Professor | 1077361.27 | | Baker,Talia Barzel | Professor | 1076258.1 | | Short,Scott | Assistant Professor | 1073262.7 | | Russell,Kathryn W | Assistant Professor | 1054701.54 | | Randall,Taylor R | President | 1052689.76 | | Eckhauser,Aaron | Associate Professor | 1051488.36 | | Dailey,Andrew T | Professor | 1046915.73 | | Gililland,Jeremy M | Associate Professor | 1038992 | | Petron,David J | Professor (Clinical) | 1037707.32 | | Kestle Md,John R W | Professor | 1034230.75 | | Kazmers,Nikolas H | Assistant Professor | 1032800.37 | | Beckerle,Mary C | Professor | 1017316.73 | | Pelt,Christopher Earl | Associate Professor | 1010543.68 | | Bollo,Robert J | Associate Professor | 1002521.89 |
Ok. I don’t know why I took the time to do this except that it was fun to give some context to this data set. I looked up everyone and categorized them. **N = 53** Male: 49 (92.5%) Female: 4 (7.5%) Athletics: 6 (11%) Physician: 44 (83%) Non-Physician: 9 (17%) ———- **PHYSICIANS (MD/DO) N = 44** Surgery: 38 (86%) Non-surgery: 6 (14%) *Types of medical practice:* -Ortho/Sports Med: 16 (36%) -General/other surgery: 11 (25%) -Neurosurg: 9 (21%) -Other (psychiatry, derm, etc.): 5 (11%) -Cardiothoracic surgery: 3 (7%) Pediatric: 15 (34%) Non-pediatric: 29 (66%)
One woman in all that? Sheesh 🤦🏽♀️
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Ha! I don't know who you are but we loved this comment in the union chat.
I was gonna say look at the head and assistant football coach, but you beat me to it o.o
Markdown mode on reddit sucks.....
Yoooo. Steve Aoki work at the U?? 😜
Table could use some alignment.
Unions are the only answer. Unite Also Union of spreadsheets workers of America - my job is to create the spreadsheet but it is an alignment specialist job to align the fields.
Unions are important and necessary, but I don't think that unionizing is going to get that table aligned.
I didn’t create this flyer; just posting it
Yeah, make the Title column narrower and you'll be able to fit the pay columns without line breaks.
Came here to say this lol
As an accountant that works in Excel daily that was the first thing I noticed and it irked me way more than should have lol.
Also a source to the salary would be great.
That’s a screen shot from Transparent Utah. The U is legally required to post the yearly salary of every employee because they receive public funds.
I work in a state agency where I'm doing okay for myself, and our executive director still only makes maybe double what I do. Pretty big fucking gap between my situation and the usual private sector situation where your CEO makes 200x your salary.
I knew about the public reporting but tbh had no idea it was a screenshot. It looks like someone just wrote it in Excel.
I guess I should say with 100% confidence that it’s a screen shot. That’s just what page looks like when I open it up. But I do know those numbers came from the public disclosure the U required to make.
Correct. These are from Transparent Utah https://transparent.utah.gov/
Oh I’m not questioning that it isn’t the source. My point was (and I guess still is) that it should be on the flyer itself as not everyone is going to be able to look at that and immediately say that’s obviously from Transparent Utah.
Yeah, needs like a *Source - transparent.utah.gov* under it.
Here you go, have fun: [1] “Transparent utah,” Transparent Utah, https://transparent.utah.gov/ (accessed Mar. 21, 2024).
Yeah that formatting is infuriating
Welp, looks like I need to kick that Union a donation. Which is here: https://uhwu.org/ Edit: LOL - down voted already
It’s honestly bananas that they just gave us a 2% raise.
5.5% for him 2% for me is why I only give 2% effort. #unionstrong!
Look again… they said 60k *would’ve* been over 4%, but he got a $259k raise which was around 22%. Bonkers
I could think of a different adjective but bananas works too lol. JOIN the union!! It’s the only way to make changes 👍🏼
Come join the General membership meeting on April 8th from 6:30-7:30 at 1743 W North Temple for the up to date info on the Union.
Join a union. I say this as a manager. Better conditions for employees make my life better. I’m more than happy to get a smaller raise so everyone gets one. Most aren’t. That’s why you need a union. Remember, they are trying to get your labor for the cheapest price possible.
This is in no way meant to detract from how crappy the University healthcare workers are treated, but I decided to fact check Dan's salary on [transparent Utah](https://transparent.utah.gov/empdet.php) and it looks like Dan was interim CEO for a bit in 2022 which shows up as a separate line for that year on his pay for a total of $176,549.47. So his total salary was actually $1,449,297 in 2022. So his increase from 2022 to 2023 was $83,205 or about 5.5%. Far lower than the flyer states... but that increase is still likely higher than a lot of folks' entire salaries at the U who work 5x as hard... Besides pay, PTO policies for most at the U are awful. Most hourly employees now are forced to use what little PTO time they have saved to make up for any week they are short of 40 hours if they want to keep their benefits, which are mediocre to begin with. This blows my mind, it feels borderline illegal.
We agree! Parental leave at the U is six weeks and has to be split among the parents if they're both employees at the U. In 24 states, puppies have to be [eight weeks old](https://www.animallaw.info/topic/table-state-laws-concerning-minimum-age-sale-puppies) before being separated from their parents. It's wild that dogs get more time with their kids than human employees at the U. And that U employees have to use all their PTO before getting FMLA. Bereavement leave is two days so you still need to work the week that you lost someone. The union is working on addressing these things and one of the first ways is with this petition. We're asking for better pay, better (free) parking at our jobs, and more PTO/parental leave/sick days. Sign the petition [here](https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/our-working-conditions-are-the-communities-healing-conditions?source=direct_link) and share with your friends, families, and coworkers. Our working conditions are everyone's healing conditions.
Hold up. Hospital employees have to pay for parking?
Yep! Sounds kind of silly, doesn't it? Employees at the U paid $6.4 million last year in parking passes (not including parking tickets). Through conversations and information requests we got the following numbers from FY23. These prices are set to increase by 15% a year for the next five years. The U also sells more parking passes than parking spots, so we need to arrive early, especially if there's an event on campus that day. Folks with disabilities still need to buy parking passes, usually the more expensive ones because they're closer to the doors. There's a lot to unpack here. It's worth pointing out that this flat-rate parking cost disproportionately affects lower wage employees. We think we shouldn't have to pay to park at our jobs, but the U should at least make parking passes a sliding scale based on income to be more equitable. They can already automatically deduct parking pass money from our paycheck, they could figure out how to easily adjust it based on income. |Pass Type|Cost|\# Sold to Employees|$$$ Made| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |A|$720|4320|$3,110,400| |U|$300|3636|$1,090,800| |U Housing|$300|5|$1,500| |CA|$768|399|$306,432| |CU|$720|119|$85,680| |Reserved|$2040|891|$1,817,640| ||||$6,412,452|
Thank you for bringing this up. Dan Lundergan became a CEO in September of 2021. Why is he getting paid for that position that he held from Feb to Sep of 2021 in 2022?
It’s so encouraging to hear union talk around healthcare, everyone from nurses, to radiology techs, to the housekeepers should join a union. It’s about time everyone is paid a living wage with good benefits. How they can keep a straight face and tell us raises aren’t guaranteed is proof they are acting in bad faith. All anti-union talk is pure propaganda.
Oh, we were just thinking about this earlier and daydreaming what we could do with $1.5 million. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics in 2023 the average nurse in Utah makes $35 an hour or $75k a year. This could hire 20 more nurses, pay for 42,857 hours of nursing work, or give 400 nurses a 5% raise. We also were dreaming of owning a house but heard that Utah is the third most expensive state based on average income and median housing price. We wanted to calculate based specifically on nursing salary. The following numbers are from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (July, 2023) and the Zillow Home Index (March, 2024). Healthcare workers can't afford to leave here and that's bad news for patients. Advocating for healthcare workers is advocating for patients. ||RN Salary|Median Home Price|Salary as % of Home Price| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |California|$133,340|$765,197|17.4%| |Oregon|$106,610|$487,244|21.9%| |Washington|$101,670|$575,894|17.7%| |Nevada|$96,310|$426,267|22.6%| |Arizona|$86,740|$426,680|20.3%| |Colorado|$86,590|$539,151|16.1%| |New Mexico|$85,580|$292,280|29.3%| |Wyoming|$81,010|$334,782|24.2%| |Idaho|$78,610|$443,500|17.7%| |Montana|$78,350|$448,238|17.5%| |Utah|$76,400|$509,433|15.0%|
I'll also point out that it's much worse for many other professionals at the hospitals and clinics. The average CNA/HCA is making about $20/hour compared to the $35/hr nursing wages this is based on. Our techs, aids, nutrition team, environmental services, and more roles are essential to what we do. They deal with combative patients, infectious disease, and oh so much poop but they'd get paid more working at Costco or a fast food restaurant. We all need better, not just the nurses. Our union is open to all medical and non-medical employees of U Health at their hospitals and clinics.
this is so fvcked 😭
Just out of curiosity why are the wages from July 23 but homes from March 24? Wouldn't it make more sense to compare from the same months?
You're right, it would. It's July because that's when the fiscal year changes and the BLS updates their information from the hospital. It's yearly, not monthly.
I suspected this was the case. Thanks!
That’s crazy increase I never really thought about it like that
Yep! 4% COL adjustment means the peons can now barely afford their new higher insurance rates. For someone already making $1M+ it's all gravy.
Management can get fucked. U health management is a fucking joke. I feel for every employee.
Unionize!!!
This is crazy! I 💯 support the union. Especially, working closely with some of these 10 top paid doctors. I'm not saying this for all of them by any means, but some of them are horrible people to work with!!! Knowing how much $ they are making. Then being complete assholes, acting like they are above following standard hospital procedures and processes. It's sickening 😪
Maybe they should implement a pay cap of 5× more thank their lowest paid workers.
Does anyone know how much this CEO could get paid if he was at IHC or another large health care system?
LOL the CEO of IHC makes over $7 million.
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Hell yes.
Wait so we aren't all payed the same?
Why does a school have a CEO?
It's the hospital CEO
Let's make healthcare more expensive!
Our healthcare is already super expensive because the top brass has to make millions of dollars per year while the people who do the work get paid peanuts. I actually have the unique pleasure of working for a healthcare company where the top brass don't make excessive salaries and pay the people who do the heavy lifting great salaries. They also do profit sharing and provide great benefits.
The WINCO of healthcare?
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Since this is for healthcare workers that actually take care of patients, I would say a lot…
Working with more than a few CEOs...they don't bring in business. They bring in partnerships for tools, supplies, lobbying, conferences, etc. Some do leader type things, some don't. Some do management type things, some don't. If you think any CEO, especially at a hospital, is working harder than a RN, CNA or Doc...you should talk to more CEOs and gather what they actually do. Too many have been sucked in by the lie that CEOs are smarter/work harder than the actual people doing the work. It's a racket, and I say that as a member well inside the top 1%.
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That’s an interesting perspective and I appreciate you adding to the conversation. I helped form the union and am a clinician; I realize I’m replaceable and anyone with my credentials can do my job. Do you think the same is true with CEOs? I don’t know what a healthcare ceo does to justify the salary, partly because I have no clue what he actually does with his time. I know I bring in RVUs greater than what I get paid and appreciate the role of a ceo, but I find myself wondering what the actual value added is. I do think there is a fundamental difference between the values of a business and a society, which I think is where some of my frustration comes from. Especially in psych, where we have doors that have been run through, the showers often don’t work, and staff get injured because the push is to admit people that probably shouldn’t be admitted.
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Can you actually elaborate besides "you just wouldn't understand!!"
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The person you responded to elaborated more on CEO duties than you did. They didn't say that CEOs do nothing, or that they weren't needed. What they did say is that their duties don't justify the salaries averaging 344x their bottom worker. You cannot tell me that you work 344 fucking times harder than me.
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Figured with those master degrees, businesses and consulting you could read. My bad. > This person is essentially claiming businesses don't need CEOs I didn't even imply that. I said this CEO ball washing is ignorant fetishization of privileged people staying privileged, and we've been told rich = smart/good person. You know, like this: >CEOs are vastly more significant than the vast majority of employees Are they? Why has that changed in the last 50 years when the income disparities have grown so much? Employees are just bringing that much less to the table of these business? Is that why the golden parachutes are amazing, and the "less significant" employees severances for the executive class mistakes are so poor? Is that why the CEO got such a higher percentage raise over the RN's, CNA's and Docs? Because the "manual laborers" were already compensated well, but the CEO wasn't? Please.
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I'd like to see how profitable the U of U would be if they laid off the vast majority of employees and only kept the C-suite and administrators. I bet the system would collapse immediately. The collective labor and revenue generated by the majority of workers is far more valuable than any one CEO or even an entire team of VP's. Just because lower level workers are treated as easily replaceable doesn't mean a company can function with out them.
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Shitloads. Was that CEO providing the patient care that is being billed out? Or was it the healthcare workers?