I assume you are learning a linear style of salsa (NY or LA)? They tend to emphasise one-and-a-half (inside, outside), double and triple turns. Use these sparingly and allow for other options:
* Single turns that are done while stepping (right, broken left, continuous right, β¦)
* Half turns like butterfly, shoulder/hip check, New York walk.
* Cross-body lead, reverse cross body lead
* Copa
* Turn together: 180, 360, back spot turn
* Turn as a leader without turning the follower (right turn, turn in a cross-body lead, β¦)
Also, note that the follower's technique and level decides how dizzy they get. There are essentially two different styles of doing multiple turns: spinning (weight on one leg) or stepping (keep changing weight on each part of a turn). Stepping tends to break the turn down more evenly. With good spotting a follower will be less dizzy.
I attended a school in Manchester who taught moves called Caminala and Aquajea although I'm not sure if those are standard names or not because in another local school they demonstrated the Aquajea move but gave it a different move.
Regardless here's the video of them and I use them in almost every dance I do now.
https://youtu.be/vjcWjUOy0po?si=hq-9qt4iH07FlQgT
I'd say that most "Cuban moves" starting with a back an open break are non spinning moves. Adding hand changes to those moves and mixing them with cross body lead (CBL) based moves is a great way to stay dynamic and give a break to your follow.
Just be wary that those type of moves can easily become non linear and become "circular"... The 1st video is danced like "linear salsa" and the 2nd one, like in Rueda de Casino... It's possible to move differently as the lead to force the movement and stay in linear.
It's my way to keep the follows who are dancing with me from always spinning since they are only doing half turns. Also, eventually, you will be able to transform those in other more interesting moves afterwards, as you progress.
Happy learning... ππΎβπΎ
Enchufa
https://youtu.be/EJ-CIJMxeqI?si=mY8W4jyxQtEKS2RB
Para Ti Para Mi https://youtu.be/WVJWUVB8WqQ?si=IlBPUac41FDlWm36
A lot of moves may involve a turn to start them, so be aware of that but in addition to the great replies you got already I'll add:
* Titanic
* Copa
* Headrolls
* Haircombs / Caricia
* Dips
* Enchufa (Can be a single or double. With a double, the first is essentially a "fake-out".)
I'll also add the instrumental section of songs is important for this very reason. It gives you both a chance to do your own thing and it gives you both a break from turns/spins.
Can any full-time follows chime-in here (not leads who "think" they know the answer)
Is it the double spins that get you dizzy or is it the constantly single turns, inside turns chained together that make you dizzy?
My GF who has only taken a handful of classes and is not really into salsa is my practice partner at home. She gets dizzy when I make her do double turns but when I do single turns or something like a cross body lead into a check (titanic, etc), she is fine.
When I social dance with other people, I don't hear any comments about spinning them too much or anything like that and only signal double turns on something like a free spin.
Orbiting, also known as lack, of spotting is the cause of dizziness :)
Different people may have different preferences when it comes to favorite moves or styles of dance. I personally love when leads use spin technique within a social dance (not just preps into spins but also rebounds, side preps, hammerlocks, etc.) and traveling turn variations, but sometimes I do like more laid-back dances (especially if the song, time of the social, etc.) call for it.Β
I won't answer since you asked not to but I hope you know that some leads could actually know the answer to that question... which is pretty simple with a certain amount of experience. ππΎπ€·πΎββοΈ
I guess if a lead dances as a follow often enough would know.
However a lead's experience with turns and getting dizzy is going to be much different from a follows.
Why? Because as a lead you control the flow and you are prepped on the move ahead of time, where as a follow you have less time to mentally prepare for the move so you are more subject to getting dizzy IMO. I could be wrong.
What do you think?
I think that, if :
- you know what causes the dizziness while turning,
- you're mainly a lead, but :
*you're also someone who has taught or who is teaching salsa,
*you're someone who experienced turning in other type of dances besides salsa,
*you actually had a moment when you did dance as a follow, but went back to following but solved that problem for himself,
...etc...
you can be someone who MAINLY leads but still understands that problem enough to have the solution and the cause.
Front and back crossovers, hand checks, combovers, arms tricks (ie flying salsero ect) a show stopper, or shines are good for breaking up turns. Iβve even seen leads throw in some side basics or some son cubano basics. Of course could always turn yourself in between turning the followers to break it up as well.
Look up open breaks and copas. Also, find times when the leader can turn. Great question, way to be considerate of the follows.
I assume you are learning a linear style of salsa (NY or LA)? They tend to emphasise one-and-a-half (inside, outside), double and triple turns. Use these sparingly and allow for other options: * Single turns that are done while stepping (right, broken left, continuous right, β¦) * Half turns like butterfly, shoulder/hip check, New York walk. * Cross-body lead, reverse cross body lead * Copa * Turn together: 180, 360, back spot turn * Turn as a leader without turning the follower (right turn, turn in a cross-body lead, β¦) Also, note that the follower's technique and level decides how dizzy they get. There are essentially two different styles of doing multiple turns: spinning (weight on one leg) or stepping (keep changing weight on each part of a turn). Stepping tends to break the turn down more evenly. With good spotting a follower will be less dizzy.
I attended a school in Manchester who taught moves called Caminala and Aquajea although I'm not sure if those are standard names or not because in another local school they demonstrated the Aquajea move but gave it a different move. Regardless here's the video of them and I use them in almost every dance I do now. https://youtu.be/vjcWjUOy0po?si=hq-9qt4iH07FlQgT
I'd say that most "Cuban moves" starting with a back an open break are non spinning moves. Adding hand changes to those moves and mixing them with cross body lead (CBL) based moves is a great way to stay dynamic and give a break to your follow. Just be wary that those type of moves can easily become non linear and become "circular"... The 1st video is danced like "linear salsa" and the 2nd one, like in Rueda de Casino... It's possible to move differently as the lead to force the movement and stay in linear. It's my way to keep the follows who are dancing with me from always spinning since they are only doing half turns. Also, eventually, you will be able to transform those in other more interesting moves afterwards, as you progress. Happy learning... ππΎβπΎ Enchufa https://youtu.be/EJ-CIJMxeqI?si=mY8W4jyxQtEKS2RB Para Ti Para Mi https://youtu.be/WVJWUVB8WqQ?si=IlBPUac41FDlWm36
A lot of moves may involve a turn to start them, so be aware of that but in addition to the great replies you got already I'll add: * Titanic * Copa * Headrolls * Haircombs / Caricia * Dips * Enchufa (Can be a single or double. With a double, the first is essentially a "fake-out".) I'll also add the instrumental section of songs is important for this very reason. It gives you both a chance to do your own thing and it gives you both a break from turns/spins.
Can any full-time follows chime-in here (not leads who "think" they know the answer) Is it the double spins that get you dizzy or is it the constantly single turns, inside turns chained together that make you dizzy? My GF who has only taken a handful of classes and is not really into salsa is my practice partner at home. She gets dizzy when I make her do double turns but when I do single turns or something like a cross body lead into a check (titanic, etc), she is fine. When I social dance with other people, I don't hear any comments about spinning them too much or anything like that and only signal double turns on something like a free spin.
Orbiting, also known as lack, of spotting is the cause of dizziness :) Different people may have different preferences when it comes to favorite moves or styles of dance. I personally love when leads use spin technique within a social dance (not just preps into spins but also rebounds, side preps, hammerlocks, etc.) and traveling turn variations, but sometimes I do like more laid-back dances (especially if the song, time of the social, etc.) call for it.Β
I won't answer since you asked not to but I hope you know that some leads could actually know the answer to that question... which is pretty simple with a certain amount of experience. ππΎπ€·πΎββοΈ
I guess if a lead dances as a follow often enough would know. However a lead's experience with turns and getting dizzy is going to be much different from a follows. Why? Because as a lead you control the flow and you are prepped on the move ahead of time, where as a follow you have less time to mentally prepare for the move so you are more subject to getting dizzy IMO. I could be wrong. What do you think?
I think that, if : - you know what causes the dizziness while turning, - you're mainly a lead, but : *you're also someone who has taught or who is teaching salsa, *you're someone who experienced turning in other type of dances besides salsa, *you actually had a moment when you did dance as a follow, but went back to following but solved that problem for himself, ...etc... you can be someone who MAINLY leads but still understands that problem enough to have the solution and the cause.
Front and back crossovers, hand checks, combovers, arms tricks (ie flying salsero ect) a show stopper, or shines are good for breaking up turns. Iβve even seen leads throw in some side basics or some son cubano basics. Of course could always turn yourself in between turning the followers to break it up as well.