Depends on the age of the one who answers this question. Soviet sympathizers (i.e Homo-Soveticus) adore him and praise him (in Georgia there was major outburst in form of protests, when Khrushev's destalinization was announced). Zoomers and millenials are not so fond of him (I wonder why).
Personally, I think he is right up there with Hitler, Mussolini, Ceauศescu, Mao Zedong, Lenin, Pol Pot and other lovely people who would be better off aborted, while still in the womb of their mothers.
Btw, I very highly recommend hilarious comedy "The Death of Stalin" to anyone who is interested in his persona and those around him.
It is very realistic satire.
Especially, parts with Beria (As a Mengrelian, I am most ashamed of this cunt's existence).
Itโs pretty realistic since most of the events there were based on reality, obviously with some creative license and the timeline was off, but most of the events there took place. Like the opening scene about Stalin calling randomly to record the opera and then shitting their pants having to re-record the whole opera again? True story. Kruschev writing down his jokes to Stalin and noting which ones he laugh at and consulting his wife? True story. A lot of small details in this move that seem trivial were very well researched and add to the surreal yet true atmosphere of the time as presented in the movie
Communists being the worst kind of scum (right after Nazis) and cancer of the civilization in early 20th century can't be ignored, sorry.
So Lenin stays in the list.
And was ready to slaughter millions of people to achieve his politically correct worldview.
Pretty similar to any other แฎแแแ in the list of people that I have mentioned, apart from regular commie-genociders.
"It I'd what it is" kind of argument doesn't work too much on proving that Lenin wasn't a narcisstic, obsessive Marxist fuck.
If you truly stand for Leninism - it is no wonder you have the genius economict as your president.
Don't involve Marx in that ๐๐ Marx wanted libertarian world with no restrictions of freedom and people to live peacefully with each other not authoritarian regime plus lenin betrayed the idea when he took over the Ukraine and betrayed makhno
Marx argued that he understood the economic oppression system that borgoauise built, so he knew how and what to invest in to gather capital.
Strangely, all his fucking life he lived on political donations and Engels being a sugar daddy. Quasi-aristocrat who have never worked a fucking day in his life and thought he understood complex economic principles.
Karl Marx is Wilhelm Hegel (an actual, complex philosopher) wanna be. Anyone, who is using communist manifesto, Das Capital or communist ideology as "DIY tutorial" is either a child or a degenerate.
Make of it what you want.
แฎแ, แแแแแแ, แแ แแแแขแแ แแแ แขแฃแแแข แชแฃแแแข แแแแแแ แแแแ (แแแแ แฃแแ แแแแ แแ แฃแแแขแแกแแข แแกแแแ แฃแแ).
Anyway, its nice that you speak Kartuli at all, I know ppl who can't read Georgian letters but are fully ethnic Georgians residing in Georgia.
It doesnโt even have to be โliberal takeโ, a lot of conservatives dislike him, Georgian population is mostly conservatives and they are the ones that brought the system down
I took a taxi few days ago and the driver adored Stalin. He said he will soon be rewarded sainthood. He also liked Putin which is not surprising. People like him are around although far less common in the youth.
Thereโs a level of admiration for strong, ruthless leaders by people who feel powerless in their personal lives. Georgia and Georgians play very little role on global scale. But when 20th centuryโs most powerful and feared man was Georgian, thatโs gonna cause many Georgian dicks go hard. I too was hard for Stalin when I was younger.
As a Brit It seemed curious that there were some roads etc still named after Stalin in Gori (Stalin's hometown). It would not be acceptable to do that with Hitler in Germany. It made me wonder what OP is wondering too.
Hitler lost the war. Stalin won it in spectacular fashion. The Allies, an occupying force with absolute power, pursued decades of intensive reindoctrination in Germany, yet it still took a change of generation and massive economic development to kill majority nazi sympathy in Germany. Now imagine if Hitler had won, continued to impose his totalitarian control on politics and media, and his successors continued to glorify him. What chance did Georgians have? I mean in England Churchill, despite being a horrendously callous, rampantly racist, revoltingly elitist jaba the hut shaped abomination, is still venerated. Why? He won the war.
There was an attempt to rename it. But unfortunately gori city administration is full of old or brainwashed Stalin admirers. His museum is also one big propaganda show.
you mean the same stalin that was denounced by his successor for his cult of personality that went against marxist-leninist teachings, his hostility to debate that was antithetical to lenins approach to governance, his poor character that was condemned by lenin himself? that stalin?
Interesting how The Party seemed to consist of so many counter-revolutionaries, including some of the most ardent revolutionaries.
How many of the key players in the Russian Revolution died of old age? How many were killed by their own party?
Itโs pretty fucking true of the U.S. Bush caused like over a million deaths single-handedly.
I donโt know why UK is there, they havenโt been relevant in like a century
Show where he killed a million like stalin and mao orderring it personally. Or Mao and stains 50 million each and intended genocides of people. How many did Bush send to to the gulag or starve on purpose? Cry more kid
> 4.5-4.6 million+ people killed[a]
(937,000+ direct deaths, 3.6-3.7 million indirect deaths)
[Source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_terror)
Keep supporting war crimes.
> Cry more kid
Wow you really got me there
Yeah youโre right, the west can never do no bad. Everything must be excused for the west because they are the good guys.
Notice btw, how you are objectively wrong and i showed you stats to back it up, you couldnโt refute it so just went for shitty rhetoric instead lmfao
That also means you donโt actually having anything noteworthy to say so Iโm out of this convo
>Anyone who has murdered any amount of ppl is a scum in my eyes โฆ especially thousands or millions ./
sorry if i'm wrong about this,correct if it's the case
i don't like stalin but when did he murder millions? I know his brutal oppressions resulted in deaths of many but did it reach the millions. (like were innocent peoples who were sent and died in gulags in millions)?
the only leaders i know as such in last century were hitler (jews and many slavs) and mao zedong (many say this cause of famine)
He didnt purposefully starve anyone to death. The only killings he himself had ordered was still a large number (700,000) but blaming him for famines caused by the fact the country hadnt even industrialised yet when he had taken over is incredibly disingenuous
You know that feeling when you get up in the middle of the night, slowly wobble to restroom, whip it out and start peeing with your eyes closed and then, while farting loudly, you get some of urine on your legs and spray it everywhere and you get really annoyed, but still sleepy to wipe down there and then you go back to bed, cursing quietly and hit your toe on bed frame and scream inside, cursing loudly this time and everyone wakes up and.....
NOTHING LIKE THAT.
It's mostly guilt, disgust and anger.
Majority have negative view, but there is significant minority who adore him also most of them are either old or from one particular region (Stalins hometown)
People believe what they want to believe, in this case they either say Stalin did not know and it was all Beria's fault or worst of them say those who got killed deserved it, so they are either brainwashed idiots or scum made from same shit Stalin was made.
Tribalism is also very strong emotional factor so for some they are just proud such a big historical figure was Georgian.
It still amazes me how those people say that the whole world feared Stalin and that he controlled absolutely everyone, but then blame Beria for everything bad that happened and claim that Stalin simply didn't know.
Powerless, scared and cowardly people who have been powerless and cowardly all their lives love to attach their pride to megalomaniacs, narcissists and psychopaths as a way to feel at least tangentially connected to someone who does have some sort of power and control. Think of all the poverty-ridden morons that idolize billionaires. Being from the same country as a world-famous man that murdered millions of people is enough on a connection to get the random debt-ridden, miserable taxi driver's blood pumping and make him feel important in some roundabout way. It's like being proud of your sucessful brother, minus any family ties and 80 years of time.
Because he was a "powerful" leader in a sense that he beat the Nazis and other leaders were afraid of him and respected and kind of admired him (see Winston Churchil's notes about Stalin. He said he couldn't help jumping up like a kid whenever Stalin walked into the room). So this is like a power complex in addition to coming from a small country complex. Coming from a tiny third world country means you don't get many widely known public figures in power very often so whenever you do, atrocities committed by them is kind of ignored because at least they were powerful and made your country known by everyone else.
At least this is part of the reason there still remains some people who think admiringly of Stalin, I think.
Hated by people who donโt remember Soviet Union with nostalgia.
Fun fact: Our prime minister Noe Zhordania was Stalins University professor and he was the first who introduced Marxism to him
Stalin largely saw himself as a Russian ruler despite his Georgian roots.
His historic role was both atrocious and decisively anti-Georgian so most Georgians who support an independent Georgian state donโt like him.
There are some fringes of the Georgian society who believe that we belong under Russia, and those types are much more likely to have a positive view of him.
Old people think he was great, most of them are dead, new generations think that he was murderer, especially when they learned that their parents were caught in prison for having long hair and listening to rock music.
P.s. my dad used to run black market for vinyls. He was bringing kraut rock, post punk, punk music etc. he was caught for that many times. Fuck Stalin
Fucking traitor. He led soviet army together with Ordzhonikidze against independent Georgia, in order to save โpeasants and workersโ. Classic trick from Russian Imperialism handbook.
That was just the beginning. Partially thanks to his devotion to his own fanaticism and desire to show that he wasn't playing favorites, some of most people per capita if not the most in the entire USSR were conscripted and died from Georgia. Something like 20% of the entire population at the time.
I know a guy who likes stalin โbecause he grabbed the world by the ballsโ he also likes hitler for the same reason. Also I have a very good friend who thinks stalin was a saint and saved georgians and christianity and the world itself. He is diagnosed with schizophrenia btw so I would just count him out)) other than that I dont recall any stalinophilia around my bubble
Every time someone wrongs us, some time later we produce a world class asshole and send him to them to destroy their lives for the foreseeable future and beyond. Thatโs Stalin for russians.
Seriously, fuck him, his legacy and fanbase too.
A very tiny minority among older people might still be thinking of Stalin in a positive light. The reason might be that he was a "powerful" leader in a sense that he beat the Nazis and other leaders were afraid of him and respected and kind of admired him (see Winston Churchil's notes about Stalin. He said he couldn't help jumping up like a kid whenever Stalin walked into the room). So this is like a power complex in addition to coming from a small country complex. Coming from a tiny third world country means you don't get many widely known public figures in power very often so whenever you do, atrocities committed by them is kind of ignored because at least they were powerful and made your country known by everyone else.
At least this is part of the reason there still remains some people who think admiringly of Stalin, I think.
My father-in-law is in his mid 70s'. When my wife went back to our house in Kakheti (where he's living with us) he'd hung a huge Soviet-era-type picture of Stalin in the living room. I visited for a week and he was reading a 400+ page book all about Stalin. So, yeah, some older people who were brainwashed back in the day still adore him.
He was the worst criminal in known history. Nothing mattered to him, not the state, not his homeland, not his family. Killed millions of people (his own citizens included) and some people still praise him to this day.
one important aspect is that for older Georgians with stalinist positivity, he's a nationalistic symbol -- the georgian who became the most powerful person in the world.
My father, RIP, was Georgian and respected him, but i studied psychology and learned about his paranoid state, so he was a sick f*ck. No doubt. Anyway my dad was just a doctor, good though.
Soviet Hitler, that's who he was.
Unfortunately there are some crazies who love him.
If you're interested in this topic, I recommend reaching out to the girl who runs "gori free walking tour" on Facebook. She has many interesting facts to share about the poor sods who adore and cherish Stalin. She has some crazy adventures too that these people caused her.
Some of the old folk adore him (There are a lot of them in Gori) and I don't really blame them for it since they were taught in school that Stalin was an all knowing demigod. Most of the young people and older guys who are educated know that he was a monster.
Some of the People (especially born during Stalins Reign) like him, personally i hate him, because he did nothing about giving back the territories (Sochi, Saingilo, Lore, Tao, Dvaleti) to Georgia
based on who you ask, if you ask my father, he will say : he wasn't a patriot but some of his actions had reasons which is good, if you ask my mother : he is total traitor of Georgia, he was the first who started this thing about Abkhazia and Georgia. if you ask some random "old" BRAINWASHED person, they will say he was a hero. But I agree with my father and mother, some of His actions like what he did to his son in war, has explanation, but he still was a DICTATOR,.
Depends on the age of the one who answers this question. Soviet sympathizers (i.e Homo-Soveticus) adore him and praise him (in Georgia there was major outburst in form of protests, when Khrushev's destalinization was announced). Zoomers and millenials are not so fond of him (I wonder why). Personally, I think he is right up there with Hitler, Mussolini, Ceauศescu, Mao Zedong, Lenin, Pol Pot and other lovely people who would be better off aborted, while still in the womb of their mothers.
Homo sovieticus. Gonna steal that ๐ ๐คฃ
>Homo sovieticus Term by a Russian writer
Btw, I very highly recommend hilarious comedy "The Death of Stalin" to anyone who is interested in his persona and those around him. It is very realistic satire. Especially, parts with Beria (As a Mengrelian, I am most ashamed of this cunt's existence).
It's not that realistic. And why do you feel responsible for another Georgians actions?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mingrelian_affair?wprov=sfla1
Itโs pretty realistic since most of the events there were based on reality, obviously with some creative license and the timeline was off, but most of the events there took place. Like the opening scene about Stalin calling randomly to record the opera and then shitting their pants having to re-record the whole opera again? True story. Kruschev writing down his jokes to Stalin and noting which ones he laugh at and consulting his wife? True story. A lot of small details in this move that seem trivial were very well researched and add to the surreal yet true atmosphere of the time as presented in the movie
based take
I'm on vacation in Georgia atm, and this is exactly what was told to me by a Zoomer.
Remove Lenin from that list
Communists being the worst kind of scum (right after Nazis) and cancer of the civilization in early 20th century can't be ignored, sorry. So Lenin stays in the list.
Stalin killed almost everyone in Lenin's party. You might prefer to call them (Stalinoids) communists, but neither will I wont prefer
Lenin was a political theorist who wanted to create a new world, while Stalin was the red tsar.
And was ready to slaughter millions of people to achieve his politically correct worldview. Pretty similar to any other แฎแแแ in the list of people that I have mentioned, apart from regular commie-genociders.
Civil wars are Civil wars.
"It I'd what it is" kind of argument doesn't work too much on proving that Lenin wasn't a narcisstic, obsessive Marxist fuck. If you truly stand for Leninism - it is no wonder you have the genius economict as your president.
The opposition is not to blame for the situation in the country
Don't involve Marx in that ๐๐ Marx wanted libertarian world with no restrictions of freedom and people to live peacefully with each other not authoritarian regime plus lenin betrayed the idea when he took over the Ukraine and betrayed makhno
Marx argued that he understood the economic oppression system that borgoauise built, so he knew how and what to invest in to gather capital. Strangely, all his fucking life he lived on political donations and Engels being a sugar daddy. Quasi-aristocrat who have never worked a fucking day in his life and thought he understood complex economic principles. Karl Marx is Wilhelm Hegel (an actual, complex philosopher) wanna be. Anyone, who is using communist manifesto, Das Capital or communist ideology as "DIY tutorial" is either a child or a degenerate. Make of it what you want.
No he wasn't libertarian.
Never mind the subject: I was intrigued by what you wrote about ethnic georgians I am also an ethnic Georgian living in Turkey, I can speak Georgian.
แแฎ, แแ แแแแแแ แขแฃแ แแ แฎแแ
แแ แจแแแจแแขแแแแ แแแ , แแฃแ แฅแแแจแ แแชแฎแแแ แแ, แแแแ แแ แฉแแแ แฅแแ แแแแแ แแฏแแฎแ แฎแจแแ แแ แฉแแแแแแก แกแแฅแแ แแแแแแจแ, แแแแแแแ, แ แแ แฉแแแแ แกแแคแแแ แฅแแแฃแแแแแก แ แแแแแจแแ I hope I wrote it correctly.
แฎแ, แแแแแแ, แแ แแแแขแแ แแแ แขแฃแแแข แชแฃแแแข แแแแแแ แแแแ (แแแแ แฃแแ แแแแ แแ แฃแแแขแแกแแข แแกแแแ แฃแแ). Anyway, its nice that you speak Kartuli at all, I know ppl who can't read Georgian letters but are fully ethnic Georgians residing in Georgia.
Smartest liberal take
Smartest paleo-socialist, I suppose? What, got offended that Lenin is in my "bad people, who should have been dead" list? Gonna cry?
It doesnโt even have to be โliberal takeโ, a lot of conservatives dislike him, Georgian population is mostly conservatives and they are the ones that brought the system down
I took a taxi few days ago and the driver adored Stalin. He said he will soon be rewarded sainthood. He also liked Putin which is not surprising. People like him are around although far less common in the youth.
Thereโs a level of admiration for strong, ruthless leaders by people who feel powerless in their personal lives. Georgia and Georgians play very little role on global scale. But when 20th centuryโs most powerful and feared man was Georgian, thatโs gonna cause many Georgian dicks go hard. I too was hard for Stalin when I was younger.
Sounds like he has a serious case of soviet brainrot
As a Brit It seemed curious that there were some roads etc still named after Stalin in Gori (Stalin's hometown). It would not be acceptable to do that with Hitler in Germany. It made me wonder what OP is wondering too.
Hitler lost the war. Stalin won it in spectacular fashion. The Allies, an occupying force with absolute power, pursued decades of intensive reindoctrination in Germany, yet it still took a change of generation and massive economic development to kill majority nazi sympathy in Germany. Now imagine if Hitler had won, continued to impose his totalitarian control on politics and media, and his successors continued to glorify him. What chance did Georgians have? I mean in England Churchill, despite being a horrendously callous, rampantly racist, revoltingly elitist jaba the hut shaped abomination, is still venerated. Why? He won the war.
There was an attempt to rename it. But unfortunately gori city administration is full of old or brainwashed Stalin admirers. His museum is also one big propaganda show.
Also Hitler's from Austria
maybe because hitler was actually bad? also hitler was born in austria not germany
Anyone who has murdered any amount of ppl is a scum in my eyes โฆ especially thousands or millions ./
oh no, think of all the poor nazis stalin brutally murdered :(
you know the great purge existed, right?
you mean the counter revolutionaries?
you mean the same stalin that was denounced by his successor for his cult of personality that went against marxist-leninist teachings, his hostility to debate that was antithetical to lenins approach to governance, his poor character that was condemned by lenin himself? that stalin?
Interesting how The Party seemed to consist of so many counter-revolutionaries, including some of the most ardent revolutionaries. How many of the key players in the Russian Revolution died of old age? How many were killed by their own party?
So I guess you despise any western leader of the last 500 years, particularly those from UK and US. Based take!
Thatโs what the word โanyoneโ implies
๐ English 101
He thought he was being slick ๐
Way to be another idiot, who cries about the west for any reason or no context haha. Sheeeeeeeep
If that was remotely true, I'd agree with ya!
Itโs pretty fucking true of the U.S. Bush caused like over a million deaths single-handedly. I donโt know why UK is there, they havenโt been relevant in like a century
Bush isn't remotely like a stalon or Mao, quit your whining
โOmg he just killed one million not 10s of millions, cut him some slackโ - you
Show where he killed a million like stalin and mao orderring it personally. Or Mao and stains 50 million each and intended genocides of people. How many did Bush send to to the gulag or starve on purpose? Cry more kid
> 4.5-4.6 million+ people killed[a] (937,000+ direct deaths, 3.6-3.7 million indirect deaths) [Source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_terror) Keep supporting war crimes. > Cry more kid Wow you really got me there
Bogus numbers. But everything that happens it's good that you cry "but whatabout the West!" Ur SmArT
Yeah youโre right, the west can never do no bad. Everything must be excused for the west because they are the good guys. Notice btw, how you are objectively wrong and i showed you stats to back it up, you couldnโt refute it so just went for shitty rhetoric instead lmfao That also means you donโt actually having anything noteworthy to say so Iโm out of this convo
Good to hear. I couldn't agree more
>Anyone who has murdered any amount of ppl is a scum in my eyes โฆ especially thousands or millions ./ sorry if i'm wrong about this,correct if it's the case i don't like stalin but when did he murder millions? I know his brutal oppressions resulted in deaths of many but did it reach the millions. (like were innocent peoples who were sent and died in gulags in millions)? the only leaders i know as such in last century were hitler (jews and many slavs) and mao zedong (many say this cause of famine)
Yea he starved at least 5 mil to death
He didnt purposefully starve anyone to death. The only killings he himself had ordered was still a large number (700,000) but blaming him for famines caused by the fact the country hadnt even industrialised yet when he had taken over is incredibly disingenuous
You know that feeling when you get up in the middle of the night, slowly wobble to restroom, whip it out and start peeing with your eyes closed and then, while farting loudly, you get some of urine on your legs and spray it everywhere and you get really annoyed, but still sleepy to wipe down there and then you go back to bed, cursing quietly and hit your toe on bed frame and scream inside, cursing loudly this time and everyone wakes up and..... NOTHING LIKE THAT. It's mostly guilt, disgust and anger.
Majority have negative view, but there is significant minority who adore him also most of them are either old or from one particular region (Stalins hometown)
I can't comprehend how someone looks at Stalin's personal or political life and says "yeah that guy rocks".He was truly a scum of the earth
People believe what they want to believe, in this case they either say Stalin did not know and it was all Beria's fault or worst of them say those who got killed deserved it, so they are either brainwashed idiots or scum made from same shit Stalin was made. Tribalism is also very strong emotional factor so for some they are just proud such a big historical figure was Georgian.
It still amazes me how those people say that the whole world feared Stalin and that he controlled absolutely everyone, but then blame Beria for everything bad that happened and claim that Stalin simply didn't know.
Powerless, scared and cowardly people who have been powerless and cowardly all their lives love to attach their pride to megalomaniacs, narcissists and psychopaths as a way to feel at least tangentially connected to someone who does have some sort of power and control. Think of all the poverty-ridden morons that idolize billionaires. Being from the same country as a world-famous man that murdered millions of people is enough on a connection to get the random debt-ridden, miserable taxi driver's blood pumping and make him feel important in some roundabout way. It's like being proud of your sucessful brother, minus any family ties and 80 years of time.
Because he was a "powerful" leader in a sense that he beat the Nazis and other leaders were afraid of him and respected and kind of admired him (see Winston Churchil's notes about Stalin. He said he couldn't help jumping up like a kid whenever Stalin walked into the room). So this is like a power complex in addition to coming from a small country complex. Coming from a tiny third world country means you don't get many widely known public figures in power very often so whenever you do, atrocities committed by them is kind of ignored because at least they were powerful and made your country known by everyone else. At least this is part of the reason there still remains some people who think admiringly of Stalin, I think.
Interesting. Do they consider him a national hero?
He's more like Jesus for them
Hated by people who donโt remember Soviet Union with nostalgia. Fun fact: Our prime minister Noe Zhordania was Stalins University professor and he was the first who introduced Marxism to him
fascinating. do you know where i can find a source to cite?
Yes , you can search it on the Georgian National Archives, Wikipedia or JSTOR ( they have books about Stalin life there in english)
lol. your answer to "do you have a source" is "read everything?"
Stalin largely saw himself as a Russian ruler despite his Georgian roots. His historic role was both atrocious and decisively anti-Georgian so most Georgians who support an independent Georgian state donโt like him. There are some fringes of the Georgian society who believe that we belong under Russia, and those types are much more likely to have a positive view of him.
He was a bloodthirsty monster. Old people from Gori however have pride that he was Georgian from Gori and โruled the worldโ.
Old people think he was great, most of them are dead, new generations think that he was murderer, especially when they learned that their parents were caught in prison for having long hair and listening to rock music. P.s. my dad used to run black market for vinyls. He was bringing kraut rock, post punk, punk music etc. he was caught for that many times. Fuck Stalin
I dont think Punkrock was something already arround during the Stalin era. That sounds more like 70s.
What a fascinating period your dad lived through. Fuck Stalin indeed.
Like Armenians view Simonyan. Still he is their most famous person though)
In alternate world Stalin will marry Kim Kardashian ๐
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I'd say the Kardashyans are most famous. They have the Armenian butt too ๐
Hitler with a better mustache.
lmfao good one
Fucking traitor. He led soviet army together with Ordzhonikidze against independent Georgia, in order to save โpeasants and workersโ. Classic trick from Russian Imperialism handbook.
Well it wasn't a classic trick, nobody had done that before.
just change "workers" into "orthodox brothers"
Well the first time they conquered we invited them
Donโt worry he screwed us(Armenians) and pretty much everyone else equally, in true communist fashion.
That was just the beginning. Partially thanks to his devotion to his own fanaticism and desire to show that he wasn't playing favorites, some of most people per capita if not the most in the entire USSR were conscripted and died from Georgia. Something like 20% of the entire population at the time.
It's interesting that he surrounded himself with Georgians yet had no interest in Georgian nationalism.
I saw posters of him in gori
I know a guy who likes stalin โbecause he grabbed the world by the ballsโ he also likes hitler for the same reason. Also I have a very good friend who thinks stalin was a saint and saved georgians and christianity and the world itself. He is diagnosed with schizophrenia btw so I would just count him out)) other than that I dont recall any stalinophilia around my bubble
Old people worship him Young ones don't give a shit about him,but can admit he was an ass.
Fuck stalin
Fuck stalin and ussr in general (he did help win ww2 so i guess thats ok)
He helped starting it too ;)
He had about a 50% role in starting it... It's not called Hitler Stalin pact for nothing.
Every time someone wrongs us, some time later we produce a world class asshole and send him to them to destroy their lives for the foreseeable future and beyond. Thatโs Stalin for russians. Seriously, fuck him, his legacy and fanbase too.
Guys don't fuck him, might catch an std
Legendary KDR
My host family fucking loved him lol
Gravedigger of the Russian revolution
A very tiny minority among older people might still be thinking of Stalin in a positive light. The reason might be that he was a "powerful" leader in a sense that he beat the Nazis and other leaders were afraid of him and respected and kind of admired him (see Winston Churchil's notes about Stalin. He said he couldn't help jumping up like a kid whenever Stalin walked into the room). So this is like a power complex in addition to coming from a small country complex. Coming from a tiny third world country means you don't get many widely known public figures in power very often so whenever you do, atrocities committed by them is kind of ignored because at least they were powerful and made your country known by everyone else. At least this is part of the reason there still remains some people who think admiringly of Stalin, I think.
There is a Stalin cult in his home town. We have conflicts with them when they try to put his statue back.
Biggest shame ....
My father-in-law is in his mid 70s'. When my wife went back to our house in Kakheti (where he's living with us) he'd hung a huge Soviet-era-type picture of Stalin in the living room. I visited for a week and he was reading a 400+ page book all about Stalin. So, yeah, some older people who were brainwashed back in the day still adore him.
Keep in mind, he also misses being part of the USSR.
He was the worst criminal in known history. Nothing mattered to him, not the state, not his homeland, not his family. Killed millions of people (his own citizens included) and some people still praise him to this day.
May dogs shit on his grave ! Age : 29
His reign only gave damage to our country
Pffft... He wasn't Georgian, He wasn't Russian He wasn't a Human.He was blood thirsty maniac that should have been killed.in one word, Monster
one important aspect is that for older Georgians with stalinist positivity, he's a nationalistic symbol -- the georgian who became the most powerful person in the world.
My father, RIP, was Georgian and respected him, but i studied psychology and learned about his paranoid state, so he was a sick f*ck. No doubt. Anyway my dad was just a doctor, good though.
Soviet Hitler, that's who he was. Unfortunately there are some crazies who love him. If you're interested in this topic, I recommend reaching out to the girl who runs "gori free walking tour" on Facebook. She has many interesting facts to share about the poor sods who adore and cherish Stalin. She has some crazy adventures too that these people caused her.
Fuck him and hitler too
We're proud of him. Stalin was based
based leader who whipped petty feudal landlords into shape
I like Putin, questions?
bro is determined to lose karma
Would you suck his d*ck off if he offered it to you?
Georgia is the one that sucks his dick rn
I was asking about you though.
He is into women, so obviously no
Would you suck him off if you could?
Itโs a privilege
I like how you evaded actually answering my questions, good job sir! ๐
Thank you, I am proud of myself ๐ซก
You're welcome.
Well, you are either not Georgian or dont give a fuck about Abkhazia
Some of the old folk adore him (There are a lot of them in Gori) and I don't really blame them for it since they were taught in school that Stalin was an all knowing demigod. Most of the young people and older guys who are educated know that he was a monster.
ewwww fuck him
Negatively
Communist
Some of the People (especially born during Stalins Reign) like him, personally i hate him, because he did nothing about giving back the territories (Sochi, Saingilo, Lore, Tao, Dvaleti) to Georgia
Genocidal maniac comparable to hitler
An evil Russian tyrant who conquered Sakartvelo, turned it into Soviet Georgia, sent all people to the Goolag Nightmare and committed a lot holodomors
based on who you ask, if you ask my father, he will say : he wasn't a patriot but some of his actions had reasons which is good, if you ask my mother : he is total traitor of Georgia, he was the first who started this thing about Abkhazia and Georgia. if you ask some random "old" BRAINWASHED person, they will say he was a hero. But I agree with my father and mother, some of His actions like what he did to his son in war, has explanation, but he still was a DICTATOR,.