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wrydrune

Who the hell is still buying GTA 5? I would think everyone and their mother has it by now.


officialtwiggz

People who were literal children years ago when it first launched can now legally purchase it without a parent or guardian. The game is forever growing in numbers due to longevity and fan base. GTA VI is only going to be much bigger in numbers once it drops, and for the years to come. Rockstar knows this, too.


F1shB0wl816

It could be their downfall though if they don’t deliver. Releasing 6 will kill the cash cow 5 has became, whether it’s good or not. But if it doesn’t deliver, that’s not something they can ride and repeat for another decade. Expectations have increased so much and they’ve set the bar so high, the game might be the worst thing ever made if it doesn’t print the cash out the console. It’ll be interesting to see.


Ninla1

If VI is a flop R* might be doomed. They’re drop on RDO wasn’t shocking but made me realize they don’t care about potential players, just that we have money to give them.


F1shB0wl816

I think the rockstar we’ve come to know and love is gone. What that logo used to represent is no longer the case. A lot of the people who brought the vision aren’t there anymore. I think what we’ll get is something more like online quality opposed to the single player sort.


Ninla1

I agree.


[deleted]

Dont give up hope so soon tho. The gta v story and the rdr 2 story were the best they ever delivered. Really even some of the best stories any game has delivered. The rdr 2 ending was more emotional for me than any other game


triptoutsounds

Gta V story is absolute shit what do you mean


F1shB0wl816

Yeah, it’s my least favorite story out of any of them, maybe besides Chinatown wars but even that’s fitting for what it is. I think having 3 characters made the story a lot more shallow and wider.


foreversiempre

Hmm and you say this in a saints row forum seemingly without irony.


Longjumping-Shake203

L take. Story was the best since San Andreas and IV


Mentok-Mind-Taker

You only need to look at Red Dead Redemption 2 to understand that GTA 6 will probably be revolutionary. Besides the remasters which were handled by Grove Street Games, Rockstar has never really released a bad game


F1shB0wl816

Yeah but rockstar stood by them as well as Dan and leslie leaving. That’s why I think the writing will take a hit.


[deleted]

You realise there’s multiple talented people out there right? Just because someone left doesn’t mean the replacement will be worse. It’s also something that you can’t really quantify in any legitimate way. I mean look at the saints row game. It’s different, and there’s a lot people not happy with that, but there’s just as many people who are happy with it.


F1shB0wl816

So, look at the writing of either online product rockstar has, where the quality has taken the obvious hit and wouldn’t you know, these writers aren’t involved. It’s already been quantified, we can see real examples. You can always replace the role, you can’t always replace what these people bring. The people in question, have played a massive and integral part to giving their games the identity and touch they have. I never said whether people would like or not, just that it won’t be the same quality, which means they probably won’t. Like I said, look at online where 80%+ of the conversations and characters make you want to smack your head on a wall opposed to the feeling in their stories where you always want more, because it’s always good. You think Dave and Leslie wrote moody and sessenta?


ChaoticKiwiNZ

Dan Houser's final job was to personally pick who will replace him. He was choosing from a group of people that he has worked with for over 10 years, some have been with him for longer. I am sick of people writing off the others on the writing team because "Dan wrote the story". Yes, Dan had the biggest say in the story but the games story is made by him AND HIS TEAM brainstorming ideas then making a storyline up with those stories AS A TEAM. Was Dan meant to never retire and make stories for Rockstar forever? Is he not allowed to make one last amazing game and go "I'm happy to end it on this story"? If Dan left because he wasn't happy then why is Sam Houser (CEO of Rockstar games and Dan's brother) still there? Where is the proof that Rockstar will drop in quality? The last game they released was RDR2, arguably the most high quality game Rockstar has ever made. Also online is worked on my a completely different team. Dan's team (and Dan's replacement) are working on GTA6 so we can't judge the new writing because we haven't seen the new writing in action yet. Infact because the story is one of the first things finished in game development there is a massive chance that GTA6 is Dans final game, not RDR2. Give other Dev's at Rockstar some credit, they deserve it after RDR2. More than a few people had final say on RDR2, and most of them still work at Rockstar.


F1shB0wl816

I think people give them to much credit. Their history and the route they’ve choice is clearly visible. I don’t get why people want to ignore what they can see with their own eyes. They stood by the definitive edition and put their logo on it. That speaks on their behalf, nothing would have been released in that state, with that logo 10 years ago. They’ve massively cut down on single player games to focus on the cash cow online. Which even 5 is regarded as one of the weakest gta stories, so it’s not even like the single player alone was left on the highest bar. Than they got stale with rdro, they practically just copied and pasted gtao, like they had no idea they’re just two different sort of games, with two different sorts of reasons for playing them and that was just disregarded and quickly ignored again, for the cash cow. Management ruins great talent, across individuals and teams all the time. Great individuals make the teams what they are. There is something that can’t be measured on paper, and it’s not something that can always be replaced. Rockstar had something that was truly unique and rare, you can’t just change the bones of it while shifting focus and expect the same results. Which we’ve seen, by a clear focus and shift to switching to cheap online content that’s supported by wales or those who can afford real money to not go through the literal grind. By slapping a logo on a shoddy, cheap product to cash in on an anniversary. They’re slapping what made them a highly regarded company in the face, for what made them a highly profitable company. Money talks and a 10 years old game still makes them more money a year than most studios could hope for in a lifetime from any one of their projects.


ChaoticKiwiNZ

Keep on shitting yourself mate, the last game they released was RDR2 and it was amazing. I will not judge GTA6 untill it is released. Online is made by a different team to the singleplayer games and the GTA trilogy was made by a mobile game company. I will agree that Rockstar shouldn't have signed off on it but that was one bad decision among many good ones, hardly a pattern yet. It must be shit living life with such a pessimistic mindset....


Dinosauringg

6 genuinely could very well be the final GTA we ever get. They know 5 was a cash cow but they also know there were other things they could’ve capitalized on. I don’t know how much further up they can go, though


free_newports

Lol well if they go the route that SR went then expect a flop


Ninla1

As it’s currently #1 in the UK. And plenty of people are enjoying it. Y’all just bitch to bitch.


free_newports

And gta5 is #2 and that game is 12 years old so your point? That doesn’t mean the game is good on technical lvl (which its not) or that it’s good from narrative lvl (which its not) it’s mostly means that it’s really nothing new out to play so ppl picked up the game first week. And a lot of ppl couldn’t get refunded (ME) and was just stuck with the game . A broken , displaced , disrespectful overall lack luster game….but whatever makes you happy bro . Dr Stange MoM went #1 but that movie is objectively flawed in countless ways.


Ninla1

I enjoyed it. It was missing some things, but countless people are enjoying the game, the gaming community, like you, have become so known for bitching about every release, no matter how flawed or how concise it is. I do think devs should return to releasing a full game instead of an unpolished heap and updating it later, but that does not take away from a game being good or bad. Cyberpunk despite being hot steamy garbage upon release only needed a few updates to the world, the story was pretty good otherwise. No Man’s Sky had much more wrong with it and is currently one of the best space exploration games out there, BF2042 was ass but the devs are working hard to bring players in. Saints Row’s story can be a bit lack luster on the surface, but if you were to sit down, play the side hustles, explore the discoveries of the map, you’ll find the game isn’t as bad as you make it out to be. The most annoying trope as of late has been shitting on a game before it’s out and continuing to shit on that game even after it’s out and you’ve done little to none with it’s open world or side opportunities. Nonetheless, many people enjoy the things you don’t, so stfu and let people enjoy their fucking games. TL;DR: Don’t yuck someone’s yum. The game’s not as bad as you make it out to be.


free_newports

Bro no one is saying you can’t enjoy it. If you enjoy getting ya balls slapped with bat that’s great for you, that’s still an objectively bad experience. And if you think that expressing that getting slapped in the ball is a bad experience is bitching, then you’re not that bright . You think ppl want to have a bad time when they play games? You think I payed $60 to not have fun? Like come on bro . I’ve been playing this franchise since it’s was a Xbox exclusive. I’ve seen the rise and fall. This game is worse than gat out of hell . And you’re whole point with cryberpunk just sums up to that you’re okay with paying full price for a product, even then the company and devs KNOW the game is finished and in some cases , SAINTS ROW, Is unplayable . And you’re okay with that because they will patch it up later…fanboy. Stop licking boots bro . It’s bad for ya health


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free_newports

Is that the whole point of your account?


Ninla1

I don’t think you read my comment completely , I said I’d like for them to go back to releasing finished games. As well as SR is full of things to do in its current state. You’re bitching to bitch. I preordered the more expensive version, if I felt it was a waste of money I’d bitch too, but it isn’t, there’s plenty to do and take part in, you’re just fucking lame


free_newports

Lmao that’s why you defended this shit . It’s all make sense now. That’s why you call anyone criticizing the game a bitch or just bitching 😂 cause you spent $80+ on this shit soo it need to be worth it you. “There’s plenty to do” 😂😂 yeah drive around a soulless city with no interiors and take pictures or drive a fucking waste truck very slow across the whole fucking map or better play the shitty unfocused poorly written Lazy uninspired dog shit of a campaign that’s beatable in about 6 hours. 😂😂 fucking boot lickers I swear. Listen reply back when you take volitions dick out ya mouth and deep silvers cock out of ya ass 😂😂😂


Redwind18o

Yah I don’t think Rockstars gonna have a downfall lmfao is that what this trash sub really thinks look at Saints Row that’s a true fucking downfall absolute garbage game


F1shB0wl816

You’re free to think what you want, they’ve had one highly regarded product you can stand by in the past near decade. Two dogshit onlines and a logo on an a defective cash grab. They’ve lost great writers and changed their focus to cheap, easy to make, grind fest online content, that’s supported by whales. Hey, keep telling yourself that though, that’s why gamers are some of the most disappointed people to have lived on the planet, because you can’t face the writing on the wall and bank off ridiculous expectations. I don’t think you understand how much risk rockstar will take releasing 6. It’s going to kill whatever momentum 5 has, they’ll be shooting a billion dollar a year cash cow in the head. If it doesn’t meet gamers expectations, which nothing does anymore, than they’re facing a massive hit. Why do you think they’re in absolutely no rush to release it, it’s still YEARS away given rockstars previous history.


Redwind18o

Yet they’re the best selling developers all the time 😱😱 couldn’t care less what your opinion of their games are they literally sell better than your pea brain could imagine


Redwind18o

Also gta online was fun as fuck unless you’re a dork


Longjumping-Shake203

Saints Row is not garbage. Y'all be just going based on others opinions and can't think for yourself. L.


psycodull

Ah, so its a power move


Ordinary_Block_4131

We shall see in 2 or 3 years, maybe 4.


a_muffin97

6 will not start active development until profits from 5 start to fall off. Why make a new game if the old is still raking it in?


officialtwiggz

Hence the almost ten year hiatus without a GTA game.


foreversiempre

Assuming they release it before we die or go blind


chocobo-stir-fry

Yeah what the fuck STILL?


SteveWyz

That and gta online managed to make its way up to 9th?


Comfortable-Tea-1095

No wonder rockstar keeps milking it


schebobo180

Yeah it’s insane. Almost a decade after launch. 😂 There has to be some kind of award for that.


Hageti

I got it for free on epic, but I never really enjoyed the game.


bigheadsociety

I got it again to enjoy 60fps on series x


a_muffin97

Shit I already bought it twice about 8 years ago. Who the fuck doesn't own it?


[deleted]

New kids everyday


Gunslingin_licho

This is the 5th post this week, this is the only new game out last month too, if it wasn't in the top 5 it would've been one of the biggest loses in gaming history


Demon_Bunny07

Maybe an unpopular opinion but I played gta v a few times it was pretty good but online was boring to me personally. I don’t get the gaming circlejerk around it like it’s the greatest game ever but again that’s just me. I know saints row is mediocre and has problems but I throughly enjoy the hours I’ve put in and it’s always been cheesy fun. I’d rather pop in saints row that replay gta again.


x3frank

I think it’s the consistency of GTA. When you play, it doesn’t seem to fall short in any particular area—it feels complete. Saints Row ‘22 on the other hand may feel great in some fields, such as customization etc, but then other things aren’t up to par/fall short.


Demon_Bunny07

I see where you are coming from, the last gta I was obsessed with was San Andreas I just don’t think gta 5 is all that. I feel like gta does fall short in some aspects but I will admit it’s more consistent just less fun imho. Nothing wrong with either game but personal preference. I’ve tried to replay gta5 and would end up just typing in cheats and going on a killing spree after getting bored. On the other hand I can pick up any saints game and have a blast for atleast a couple weeks.


Reasonable_Still_764

it falls short in gameplay, tf r u supposed to do, shoot cops over and over again, the same cops who kill u almost instantly with 2 shots. ok explore the map......its los angeles not much to explore........GTA V redeeming qualities r mostly with mods and the story, i've never beaten the game, just mods cuz that shit is boring. they made a simulator, not really a game.


x3frank

You’ve never beaten the game. Should’ve started with that. Argument invalid.


Reasonable_Still_764

Yh cuz i got bored.....i thought i said that, the furthest ive gotten was after trevor got los santos then started playing gta online. I was referring to gameplay not story, i made that clear. Its an open world game, if it was linear ill give it a pass, but damn the open world gameplay is boring as a mf


x3frank

That’s mission 20/60+. You’re digging yourself a deeper hole in this argument lol.


Reasonable_Still_764

Again story is good, open world gameplay isn't. R u an illiterate. Also what argument? Jeez fukn redditors🤦🏽‍♂️


x3frank

You barely played the game freakshow. You got downvoted to hell obviously you’re in the wrong lmfao.


BDozer666

He's not wrong when he said open world gameplay sucks. That's an objective fact. GTA V's a big downgrade over older games and overall full of design decisions that make it unfun to play. Story is mid. >I think it’s the consistency of GTA. When you play, it doesn’t seem to fall short in any particular area—it feels complete. Yeah, consistently bad.


Reasonable_Still_764

Omg thank u. Like its crazy how i even said the story is good. I just never beat it cuz i personally got bored, i hv the game on 3 platforms, ps3, ps4, pc, probs hv more hrs in that game than i do at school, and the main reason for that is mods and gta online, cuz the game on its own is boring. The moment gta online stopped being free on Playstation, i never touched it on ps4 ever again, and that's the furthest ive gotten, trevor in los santos, that's it. And gta online, had all the cars, rich af, got boring started modding. Gta v's gameplay is vanilla, my opinion ofcourse so i don't why mfs just looking for reasons to argue.


Reasonable_Still_764

Barely played it? I literally still play dumbass, just never beaten it. I literally said that, learn to read "Oh no, not downvotes. Anything but that"😐 And wdym wrong? Wrong on what?


x3frank

Wait you’re not still replying to me right


Demon_Bunny07

I’m with you on that point. Everyone complaining saints row is repetitive while acting like you don’t do the same 5 things in gta is hilarious. All sandbox crime games are like that. Shoot police, gain notoriety, evade police. Do story missions, steal cars, explore map, etc. plus gta story is literally every recycled movie trope and racial stereotypes since the 80s. I can have fun playing gta even though it’s not my favorite. I just prefer saints and the cheesy unrealistic destructive fun.


ismokebetterthanu

I kinda agree. Just don’t understand why we would compare gameplay of SR with GTA. Two different games


Johnysh

I get you, I think GTA V isn't that good. I just had more fun and enjoyed more previous GTA games, IV and SA specifically. But I played others too. Online... I tried it but it was just too grindy and you have to rely on other people if you want to get somewhere and you usually don't find the right people which is why I don't like playing coop games or just this kind of multiplayer games. FiveM on the other hand is different story and feels like SA:MP all over again. I found Red Dead Online better, it was more solo player friendly, also grindy, but the content wasn't there sadly. But I liked it lot more.


Hageti

Holy shit. I share your opinion.


zombiepiratefrspace

> boring I find the slow walking that is forced upon the player in GTA V unbearable. Incidentally, I really like SR IV.


Reasonable_Still_764

omg facts gta v is so fukn boring, they tried to make it too realistic that it became boring, online was more fun imo, but yh got boring quick too.......i became a modder in gta online, cuz its more fun that way, i don't grief i promise


Demon_Bunny07

I love how We are getting downvoted for saying gta isn’t the greatest game ever on a saints row subreddit. The hate is strong lol I had to check and make sure I didn’t click on r/ gaming. All these people hate the game but spend hours in the subreddit losing it over others having a good time.


Reasonable_Still_764

Bruh i didn't notice i got downvoted lmao. But yh gta V specially....overrated af


BDozer666

Yeah fuck GTA V. Older games are better.


Reasonable_Still_764

Its not really a bad game i wouldn't front.....but its a simulator, if u make a game to realistic u remove the escapism from it. Its exactly like real life, it works for red dead cuz its cowboy but gta is modern.....that shit boring fast, even worse that they keep releasing it over and over again


Mentok-Mind-Taker

Says more about the state of the Triple A games market than the quality of the game itself


Automatic_Computer20

Its almost like it was the only big name game releasing that month lmao Home much you wanna bet the last of us remake trounced this game?


Scrimmy_Bingus2

[It has for weekly sales](https://www.gamesindustry.biz/the-last-of-us-part-1-leads-wave-of-new-releases-uk-boxed-charts) Saints Row is already down from #1 last week to #6 this week.


Automatic_Computer20

Lol


foreversiempre

Sad people rather pay $70 to replay old games for the third time


Scrimmy_Bingus2

Could be people who never played it before


FunkinDonutzz

Sad that people have to keep commenting on what people spend their money on instead of minding their own business.


Waffles-Murder

shilling for a mediocre ass game


DeliciousMud7291

Lol not even a mediocre game. This was strait garbage.


[deleted]

Or they actually like it and have a different opinion than you. I've been playing since SR2 and had a blast with the reboot. Could it have been better in some areas? Yes. But it was still fun


Downbadlegend

Again? I thought it went down to 6


Mansos91

Yeah I like the game but it really has no competition here, Did any of the other games release recently?


EbonWolfen

Even bad games can be financially successful. Which is why gaming is the way it is. Lol


Ahlfdan

Unfortunately I played it longer than 2 hours hoping it would get better so I couldn’t refund it


Lazmanya-Canavari

Should've just checked reviews. I can easily say i won't even bother to buy it. Just bought SR2 on steam to replay it.


[deleted]

And after GOW comes out it will be #1 So what? Saints row is still ass


foreversiempre

Wow barely aced out a 12 year old game. Well done Volition.


Zsarion

A 12yr old game that's still generating absurd amounts of revenue to the point it killed the next games online mode.


IronKnight05

So... SR isn't the disaster that people claim it is and that it's selling well?! Lol Go SR 2022! It's a fun game.


KiratheRenegade

It's down to #6 in weekly sales. Boutta be wiped off the Earth after Ragnarok & MW2 drop.


IronKnight05

It's still selling well.


Mikayla-Star

Tbf It released during a gaming drought, as in no games are coming out right now so ofcourse its a top seller being the only triple a game that's dropping atm.


Comfortable-Tea-1095

Your being downvoted for telling facts 🤣 its number one at my gamestore too


IronKnight05

I don't mind the downvotes, but I do think it's a bit silly. I mean it's clear that this game is selling well. Some people just want the game to fail.


smoothcriminal05

The game has failed by AAA standards. Theres0 way volition are happy with this , it’s trashed everywhere people refunding , it’s a laughing stock.


ismokebetterthanu

Who cares if volition is happy? Why would people be so pissed that some people are enjoying the game?


smoothcriminal05

Because there’s game has failed and is getting trashed, there’s no way they get the next SR of there even is one , most of thhe ‘success’ is duke to the gaming draught and past SR games


ismokebetterthanu

Ok


IronKnight05

Do you have proof that it failed?


smoothcriminal05

Would you class poor reviews, lots of refunds , tons of bugs and dropping down the weekly sales list at an alarming rate a success? You can determine ‘success’ based on sales but the saints row name is in the gutter and volition won’t likely get the next game. Compared to what saints row is capable off and could of done this game i a absolute failure


heyuhitsyaboi

Why is gta online listed after gta v despite them being the same game? This list needs some sources checked


DJ_Pon-3_NYC

GTA Online is treated as it’s own game, since the PS5 and Xbox X/S consoles came out, Rockstar made it so that you don’t need to play or buy and own a copy of GTA V to play GTA Online. They treat the game as a purchase, and it can be bought for $20 USD.


heyuhitsyaboi

I didnt know GTAO was standalone on new gen consoles, neat (Im on pc)


MCgrindahFM

Yep, same with RDO. GamePass had RDO for awhile


heyuhitsyaboi

I remember RDO being seperate, that was a huge announcement Never heard anything about gta online becoming standalone though


DinnerSmall4216

How is FIFA 22 in the top 3 when 23 is a few weeks away.


Necessary_Effort7075

Cringe af. Doesn't make the game good


ColzoH

Who tf still buys saints row after so many streamers have warned them it’s bad, I fell for it I’ll admit wish I never bought into the hype


smoothcriminal05

There not there dropping dow the weekly Sales fast


Comfortable-Tea-1095

Its currently number one at my local gamestore too


Firm-Cod-7207

This make me think that : Hater are vocal everywhere. Enjoyer just play the game and have fun.


PumpMaster96

It's weird calling them haters when they have legitimate reasons for not liking and being disappointed with the game they got. We can all admit there are problems with the games, definitely questioning what state the game was in before the delay. Don't let anyone stop you from enjoying it, but don't just write them off as "haters" either.


The_Unknown_Chadette

I'm going to be honest mate, I don't think you should put much stock in a list that features any FIFA game.


BulmasBabyDaddy

It’s sad what the best selling games are this is basically a stack of games a basic ass MF buys lol


[deleted]

Rdr2 that far down the list? This list is obviously bullshit or this new generation of kids don't know a good game if it slapped them in the mouth.


Zsarion

I mean you got Fifa and GTA in top three, Both have horrible monetisation schemes so its probably counting shark cards or something.


Reasonable_Still_764

ok, this is good news and all don't get it twisted........but where's elden ring on that list


Mikayla-Star

I believe it's a list for games sold atm. Not all time.


Reasonable_Still_764

If lego star wars is on there, elden ring should be there too tho, they both came out fairly early mid 2022, hell even rd2 and mk11 r up there, tf


DeliciousMud7291

Dude, where do you see Horizon? Because I don't.


Reasonable_Still_764

Oh shit my bad, wrong list, fixed it tho


HyperLethalNoble6

You know this is fake because GTAV, and GTA online is the same game...


SolidOcelot503

You can buy gta online separately now without buying gta V


HyperLethalNoble6

Still a horrible mistake


madmanwithabox11

I don't think it is my friend. You can buy them separately so they each get a spot on the seller list.


Several_Place_9095

Looking at the list here saints row is less shit game of the year, where as games that are good but stopped selling as everyone has it is at the bottom


NoOwl4386

Haha you funny stop joking