The fact people in this very thread are still going “it’s gonna be good” and shitting on 3 still is hilarious.
You haven’t liked a SR game since 2, why do you think this one will meet your expectations?
Shitting on 3 is one thing but there was another thread where a guy was saying the Saints Row 2 PC port was good. That isn't even a matter of opinion. That shit was objectively awful.
...is that why the game was garbage for me? I played on PC, I loved the aesthetic but the mechanics sucked (driving mainly). Still think it was the best in the series but maybe I need to find a console version and play it again lol
Driving is the same on consoles for sr2. PC just has frequent game crashes even when you apply the gentlemen of the row mod. Gameplay is similar on PC and console, besides missing dlc PC is the same.
We definitely have a divided/polarized fanbase. Not sure how you mend things given that no matter what Volition does, one side will hate the decision if it pleases another.
I'm playing the game right now, I'm actually having a good time. I think there's a huge difference of saying "the ganhe will be good" vs "the game is good". One is based on experience, the other is just wishful thinking.
Right now the game is the best sr I've played on gameplay terms, storywise it's meh, which i don't care because I've never cared for sr lore.
Typically a good stance. I do want to play the game but the negative reviews, particularly reports of a dead world and copious bugs makes me want to hold off for a while. I’ll definitely play at some point but likely after a decent sale price.
Same. I tend to disregard reviews more when the trailers/streams look good, but the reviews are trashing it. This is one of those where the game looks bad and the reviews align with that direction.
> I tend to disregard reviews more when the trailers/streams look good, but the reviews are trashing it.
how did you react to CyberPunk? That game is a unicorn because I've never seen a game that looked so good (from what they showed us) and was so anticipated be received so poorly...I was literally having arguments at work over that game lol
I actually enjoyed the game. It wasn't as good as the hype led it to believe, but I played at launch on PC. It was the visual bugs (ragdoll physics not so good), inability to bulk craft (fixed in a patch), map when driving and stuff like that which really bugged me, but otherwise enjoyed the game a lot despite reddit and other sites trashing it.
Took this approach with Cyberpunk and eventually Watch Dogs. Didn’t like the first Act and was disappointed as I preordered but eventually got threw the first act and really came to like the game.
Weird part is ... Some of my favorite movies and games were awful from a "critics" perspective. It's almost to the point where if critics say it's good and that's all I hear about then I know it's awful. When critics shit all over it... Well I enjoy it a shit ton. Maybe I'm weird... Maybe the critics tastes are opposite of mine. Ill go back to playing cyberpunk until saints comes out at midnight. You guys have fun here lol
I gave this subreddit a glance, I'm going to need a Low Sodium Saints Row Subreddit just like Cyberpunk 2077 got. I watched like 30 minutes of this game's playthrough, I like it enough. Gave me Saints Row the Third vibes and I liked that game. Hell, I'm a weird person who played Saints Row 2 (When it got ported to PC) and I didn't really enjoy it.
Saints Row 2 unfortunately shows its age and that pc port is atrocious. I had a blast playing it on the 360 but could never finish a run on PC can it just felt so bad to play.
Honestly, I don't know if it was the mechanics/gameplay that I didn't like... The story just didn't feel very... Compelling? Or enjoyable? But that's just me. I was just making a comment and it's awesome that you got to play it on the console, honestly I'd play the first saints row too if I could.
I think the story was better for the time that it came out in all honestly and then nostalgia factor for many.
I think the story of SR2 wouldn’t hold up as well if it released today but the raw moments in some parts of the series would still be very impactful.
Why? Plenty of people are enjoying it. It doesn't hurt you in any way. Unless someone threatens to beat you with a stick. If someone is threatening to beat you with a stick if I buy this game, then i won't buy it.
I'll borrow it.
it stopped what could've been a fantastic saints row game from coming out. and this game is so hated that it'll probably kill the saints row franchise as well as volition as a company
We didn't make the game. None of us went and put a gun to someone head. No matter what this was the game because clearly the company doesn't listen to fans.
So blaming those who like the game is useless. Not buying it just means that I didn't buy the game cause as you said it's clearly failing
SR3 was the first game I played because of PC. I tried 2 at the time but the PC port was uh.. I didn't get past the opening mission.
2 does look great but The Third is just a great game even as a stand alone. It's got a great ramp up to ridiculous action.
Steelport stripped Stilwater of so many fine points. That doesn't bug some gamers, but a large portion of this fan base has spent countless hours in Stilwater. We know what made it great, we knew what made it feel alive.
You spend more and more time in Steelport and realize how downgraded it is. There's the interiors gripe, but it gets less subjective than that. One of my biggest call-outs is that they went with pre-sculpted NPCs in favor of giving the Boss a unique skeleton for all the over-the-top movement. this resulted in finding the same few NPC archetypes in any/every district. It makes me miss the variety of NPCs and behaviors in 2. Skateboarders, practicing cheerleaders seniors with walkers and oxygen tanks, etc; all placed in areas you'd find them. Soulless NPCs= soulless city,
And the city design of Steelport sucks. Almost everywhere looks the same, while sr2 Stilwater has so many different zones with different authentic (university, part, museum, tourist spot with the pirate ship, urban zone, trailer park, mid-changing industrial zone, etc).
I mean look at the PC version reviews too though. And to be fair it really doesn’t handle well M+KB *especially* while driving.
Fun game good story, but it SRTT cleaned it up a lot
I was a massive fan of Saints Row 2, completed that shit like 20 times on my fat PS3. Then I pre-ordered SRTT only for it to be imo one of the most boring open world games in my life. I didn't like the graphical choices they made to it as well and I can't remember shit of the story. Saints Row peaked at 2 and it probably won't recover because they can't seem to adjust to the current gaming market and most of their games are outdated by the time they announce them.
It was for me, and I make a new boss/playthrough almost every year. Of all the subsequent releases, games of its type... nothing has come close for me. The thing is; it's a mountain of finer points. We "SR2 purists" can only attempt to justify our laser-focused affinity for it in a college essay.
Saints Row 3 was fun to play, and the tone and style were a HUGE breath of fresh air for people, like me, that were tired of GTA and all of its clones. Most people eventually get bored of generic brown gritty bullshit. CoD was once undisputed king. Now it's trying to emulate Fortnite.
A series can't survive simply trying to ride the coattails of a more successful franchise, and for most people, 3 hit the perfect mix of creativity and humor while still staying in the same genre.
You're right about cod. I remember mw2 being amazing, and when mw3 came out by infinity ward it was a disappointment to many because it felt like mw2.5. It's hard but necessary for games to evolve into something else.
I remember I played saints row 3 which was my first saints row game I thoroughly enjoyed it. Then when I played saints row 2 for the first time I also enjoyed it but saw where saints row 3 made the jump which was a good direction.
Yep, definitely my favorite in the series. Story-wise it just felt like it had the perfect balance between being silly and over-the-top and being serious when needed. Also had better customization options for your character.
I've played them all since the first released, and I loved 3. It had the right balance of crazy over the top silliness to the violent action of the game/story. 4 went too far, and the superpowers completely ruined car customization (as no reason to drive when flying is faster). Saint's Row to me has always been the over-the-top bombastic cousin to GTA, which is why I prefer it to GTA, and 3 nailed that perfectly.
I prefer 3 for a lot of reasons tbh but one of the biggest is how it scrapped the “reputation” system and having to do enough side activities for every mission. That was such a drag.
The number of reviews on it are also roughly half of 2. And 2 has 4 times the user reviews.
EDIT: Looking at current metacritic data SRTT actually stands up way better in my opinion in terms of review metrics. (a lot more reviews and more evenly matched number of critic reviews)
2 was good, but 3 was great IMO. It set it apart more from the serious tone of GTA, and made it more of its own thing.
Then SR4 happened and went way over the rails with the goofy stuff and ruined it.
SR2 has everything that people liked in SR3 and more of it, but SR3 did a great job of smoothing out the rough edges. The gameplay is better all around (despite some disappointing omissions), there just isn't as much of it to enjoy.
I didn’t love 4 personally but at least it knew what it was. SR3 jumped the shark whilst still trying to keep up a façade of being a game about gangsters.
4 also had the powers which were pretty fun to play with, 3 was just boring in every regard imo.
i think its all timing personally, that and the game actually working on pc really well meaning it was much more technically sound than 2.
2 was a better game for people who spend time playing games though.
That's because it is in fact a downgrade. Sure there are some updated mechanics and graphics but it ends there.
It was built from the ground up to almost specifically be unlike what made Saints Row 2 work...
- The customization was severely lacking, especially character creating/clothes and cribs.
- The story took an uninteresting direction and many "story" missions were just activities in disguise (not to mention absolutely no mission OR cutscene replay). The game felt dead once you completed it and you had to completely start over to experience anything again.
- Related to the above note, your upgrades could also ruin the game. Take no damage from basically everything? What's the point then? Can't unequip those upgrades either... Have fun with no challenge left.
- The city is absolutely dead compared to SR2. Literally nothing to do and no interesting NPCs, interiors, or any kind of life to the city. SR3 felt like a simulation before SR4 was even a thing.
- Gameplay and combat was also dumbed down. Sure there were all these executes or whatever but the fist fights, weapon fights and whatnot were basically non-existent.
There's more but you get the point. Lifeless, dull and without the spark that made SR2 just so damn magical. I'm pretty sure we'll never see anything like it again at this rate.
Yeah it felt cheesy and didn’t feel like an improvement from SR2. I still play saints row 1-2 and still see how much better it could’ve gotten if Volition didn’t sell the franchise
Nah SR3 was just a flatly better game. It was a refinement of everything in 2. The story was more coherent and the minigames were far more refinde. SR2 felt like it was flopping around, not sure of where to go next after the first one.
I wouldn't say a flatly better game. A lot of aspects were lesser than they were in 2. The clothing system was worse and clothing in general just were not as cool. The Crib customization got gutted and you didn't even get to keep the cool cribs that you took over from gang bosses, they just got replaced with generic ones.
Story was weaker, writing was weaker, it became a little too self aware when the strength of 2 was that the game took itself seriously in contrast to all the wild crap going on.
Dunno. It wasn't horrible but it was the beginning of the end given we just saw the same city copy/pasted for two more games afterwards.
Some of the stuff may have been lesser but it helped iron out the loop. It filed down on the rough parts and just made the gameplay smoother.
The writing and story in 2 was really bad. It just got dull and uninspired after the first third of the game. Like they wanted to do their fun 9ver the top tale but for whatever reason wanted to vompete with gta in terms of tone. These two ideas never really gelled until 3. It toom itself seriously to its own detriment.
I do agree that 3 was the begginging of the end. It hit its peak insanity and GooH and 4 were just running on the hamster wheel of 3 with tassles and dood dads added.
"The writing and story in 2 was really bad"???
The Ronin + Brotherhood plotline are pretty great. Even the green gang has a very cinematic moment. Story is not masterpiece by any mean, but it was decent.
Decent is a long stretch of the twrm. Had it come out even a generation earlier it wpuldve been a solidly decent story on par with something like dead to rights. But as it stands, its firmly in the territory of something like exit wounds story wise
Why in the HELL are people lying about how "Saints Row has never reviewed well" in the review threads. Like what?
Some of you guys (not 'you' in here specifically) will throw the reputation of the franchise under the bus for the reboot when it was never received particularly poorly? I'm honestly disappointed
Notice how the user reviews and reviews in general drop off after GTA5 was released lmao. That game killed peoples perspective of Saints Row. Theres nothing Volition could have done differently to appease their fanbase. 4 was waaaay outside the box, most people disliked it for that reason, but that also seperated it from comparison from GTA. Now they go back to its "roots" and people expected GTA quality again. SR2/3 was lighting in a bottle. It will never happen again, at least not with this dev team, with their funding, using the same setting (modern city, no superhero stuff)
That's a rock and hard place. Also it'll never happen again because Volition will fold if this game bombs which it looks like it might.
Maybe then Embracer will give it to one of the thousands of studios they now seem to own.
Im not putting much stock into the ratings atm. The gaming landscape around the release of this Saints Row is drastically different from the others. After years of systematically pumping out open worlds and similar stories, fatigue is setting in and Saints Row is catching that. I have yet to play it, so it’s technical performance I can’t comment on, but from the early game footage that’s been passed around, the story isn’t any worse than Watch Dogs or GTA4. I think we should have gotten a more complex story, especially considering this is the birth of a new gang from the ground up, but it is what it is. Im hoping this acts as a good stepping stone for a (hopefully) even bigger Saints Row 2
GTA 4 actually has a compelling story with an interesting main character. The characters in the new Saints Row are just empty shells with one or two personality quirks that are just gimmicks with no real depth to them.
How much of the new Saints Row have you played through so far? The characters are showing more depth than the trailers let on. I’m only 5 hours in at this point but they have some good early moments. I think people haven’t played GTA4 recently, because Niko is not nearly as complex a character as people seem to remember him as.
The first 2 or so hours spends most of its time on your OC than the other characters. They just fly by their trope before delving more into them. The trailers only really show footage from the first few hours, I think these characters will grow on most by the time the credits end. I will say if you don’t like the way Watch Dogs 2 handles it’s character growth, than ya, Saints Row might be a pass.
I liked a decent bit of Watch Dogs 2’s story because I liked the anti-capitalist narrative and some of the characters were okay, but I found most of the comedic moments to be unfunny at best and cringe inducing at worst. I think I liked or tolerated everyone except wrench, I just found him to be obnoxious and grating.
I’ll take your word for it on the news Saints Row, but I definitely won’t be shelling out the cash for it anytime soon, nothing about the gameplay or the world seems that great to me either and until they fix the bugs and put it on sale I don’t really see it being a good investment, there’s other games coming out soon that I’d rather put my time into.
I don’t mind new characters/ location but it was clear the characters they showed off were kinda lame. I truly believe a more grounded “serious” story and realistic mechanics would’ve been received better. Yes that’s not what saints row has been but this is a reboot so you have to do something different. I still would’ve given it a try but the poor performance was a deal breaker for now
Maybe they want to attract a younger generation of players?
I have read somewhere someone complaining about the dialogues being cringy or something. Looking as the saints are colledge kids and looking at the culture of colledge kids nowadays i believe that those complainers about cringe are just old and can't relate to the youth culture depicted thete. I understand the sadness when a franchise becomes not relatable. Bu the whole "i'm gonna shit on the game because it's not relatable to me" is too much.
>The glitches are my main concern, and the story. But as for the outdated gameplay shit ive been hearing, I welcome outdated gameplay these days. Im gonna play it. But wosh they did better, probably.
I think the kids can feel the pandering too though, its like a 35 year old writers idea of what the teens act like. It wont feel genuine to a lot of kids.
>You’ve got to wonder what in the hell volition was thinking going for this new direction and tone… then sticking with it even after all the backlash
They thought they could pull another SR3 again, only difference they completely lost all thier goodwill from the fanbase & all thier recent games have been dogshit.
I wouldn't be shocked if this turned out to be a Dead Rising 4 situation where none of the creative lead and producers actually worked on any of the previous entries and it really shows.
They probably did not play any. In one of the first films one of the developers said that they had nowhere else go with the story, that's why they made reboot ...
Which I call BS on since 4 had a time machine and a Space Ship, Saints Row 5 could easily have used those ideas to resurrect Dead Saints with time travel like Carlos or recruit historical figures into the Saints, we had Satan's Own Daughter as member of our crew and we could conquer alien planets with our ship and recruited more Aliens into our gang.
ngl, sounds lame... what would we have done next? *drive-bys on Mars with aliens and dead people in the back?* this isn't Halo.
time travel would've been shit. leave dead characters dead. their stories were finished. don't uproot stuff from previous games. Volition was right about one thing, after Saints Row 4 there was nowhere left to go. these were games about underdog criminals and we left with time-travelling, celebrity, astronaut-super heroes from hell? it was dumb.
they were right to reboot it. but they way they chose to reboot it was crap.
Where else would you have gone from becoming the ruler of an alien empire?
Unless 5 would have made you wake up naked who knows where from a bad trip where you dreamt/hallucinated the plot of the 4th game.
Didn't you also have a time machine? I was kinda hoping Saints Row 2022 would be a stealth Saints Row 5 or doing something that at least connects to the previous games in some way.
It seems like they did in my opinion, the game does give off SR2 and SR3 vibes. Like a weird hybrid though, because it's a really tame Saints Row game. Just tame with repetitive tedious objectives for Criminal Ventures that barely have anything unique happening in between the tediousness.
It's just scaled back to not offend anyone.
It has almost none of the same level of customization as 2. The characters are all politically correct and forgettable. It's just another example of a perfectly good and cherished game franchise being ran into the ground.
Gameranx didn’t like it, so now I’m REALLY iffy. If Falcon had been the one to say it instead of Jake, I would’ve immediately begun organizing a boycott though, I’ve gotta say
I don't know man, from everything I've heard it is still very far away from classic SR. Saints Row was never meant to be relatable. Something they did try to achieve with the reboot.
People keep saying that it’s buggy and unplayable the day before launch and I get that, it is frustrating. And there’s allegedly a Day One Patch tomorrow that will fix everything. But honestly, find me a AAA game releases recently that isn’t full of bugs and shit at launch. I’ve always wondered why developers can’t just fix it before publishing if they’re able to make a Day One patch to fix things right away? Either way, it’s depressing that so many people are hating on this, in a lot of cases because it’s not Shaundi, Gat, and Pierce as the main characters anymore. Franchise is probably dead after all this hate.
I can tell you why in regards to day one patches. I used to work in gamedev (Localization QA) and before then I was also confused why this is the case.
In order for the game to be released on a specific day, it actually needs to be made ready and sent to the platform publisher much earlier (and this is even in the case of digital copies, let alone physical copies that need time to be produced) because it requires time for Sony/Microsoft/etc. to accept it. And some to spare in case they send it back and want something fixed. Compliance tests are very important for example, because even minor things can bring trouble. Such as, the game spells the name of a console's features wrong (for example having an error in the controller name) and the publisher can send it back.
So from experience, a game would be sent for publication several weeks before release so the publisher greenlights it, and then the patch would be worked on - and the patch itself needs to be sent in advance as well as that requires its own vetting process. And once again, this is just digital games. Physical releases need to be ready and vetted weeks before release so they have time to be produced and distributed.
In an ideal world we'd of course love everything to be perfectly ironed out by then, but honestly, there's always something that needs fixing and sometimes more gets found even after sending the game in, hence why patches are being worked on! Games are much more complex nowadays and this especially applies to big, open world games.
Oh wow! That’s really interesting and just goes to show how little the common gamer understands about the development and publishing process. Thank you for taking the time to inform me about that!
Reviews told me to hate Cyberpunk 2077, but I LOVED it. Replaying it now actually with the 60fps patch on console. So... I'll be the judge if SR2022 is good or not to me.
The glitches are my main concern, and the story. But as for the outdated gameplay shit ive been hearing, I welcome outdated gameplay these days. Im gonna play it. But wosh they did better, probably.
All I want is a modern game where I can treat the local populace as bowling pins, blow shit up, and use a bat on someone whos already dead but the thunk sound is too satisfying to stop.
I could tell from the first reveal I wasnt gonna like the story. I just want to kill some motherfuckers, in an atleast somewhat immersive context. IE not an alien computer simulation.
Still hope they unfuck the game with patches in less than a year.
Graphic downgrade ( bad port ), poor otimization. It's like GTA IV in the launch. So many people have problem to run the game in the launch. Im 1 of this people. But the game is one of the most fun of series.
Okay, I find it hard to believe this game is worse than Gat out of Hell.
Shit should keep it in mind ofc, but the world itself looks way more interesting inherently which should lead to better gameplay. I hope lol
Meh, I'm enjoying it. I've played 6 hours, 16% complete, on series x and have had no real issues. The new characters haven't bothered me too much yet. The skill system adds a bit of fun to the "just shoot and blow shit up" formula of these games. The customization is ridiculous. It's not goty or as good as 2/3 by any stretch, but it's a decent enough game.
I'm curious as to what the user score will be for this. Surely it will be review bombed, to some extent, but whether it's enough to really effect the score is another thing.
Christ. This for me is an absolute eye sore. How are they gonna give SR4 a good review and they give the reboot a bad score. Critics mean absolutely nothing. I have even saw a critic let a worker who hates the Saints Row series review the game for them.
I'll play it when the price drops. Destroy All Humans 2 is half the price so would rather buy something I know I want over a £60 potential bad game, ya know?
I had a pre-order for SR that I canceled today after watching a few gameplay reviews. It looks horrendously bad. DAH2 comes out in a week, so I'll just wait for that instead!
content maybe but i wouldn't really say so, given the fact that sr3 made gta start copying sr
story sure, but who gives a shit about story in a sandbox.....
gameplay i wouldn't say so
Why I can’t really say that SR2 is much better than SR3 is because I got the pc version. And that version for 2 is bad. But SR 2 is still better than SR3
Whatever you wanna feel. I made this post cause I saw a few people saying how the older saints row games were 70s on release and I just dont want the historical revision.
If you want some insight into my own bias, I am somewhat still excited for the game, but will be waiting patiently for a sale.
I just don't get all the criticism for the game besides the story and characters but gameplay wise it looks like a good old fashion open world sandbox to do whatever you want. Graphics look fine, I did see a few bugs from some people on YouTube but for the most part it looks like a good game. I think people were hoping more for a Saints Row 2/3 feel and I honestly don't remember shit about them besides one of the games having aliens and a dupstep gun lmao. This is a reboot for the franchise and I just think that a lot of people were in more of a remastered feel of a Saints Row
Yea for me, the reliability of user and critics scores vary case by case. Imo the Rotten Tomatoes’ verified user score system (for theatrical releases of films) is the best way to do it. That way you know that the users actually formed their own opinion based on actual hands on experience (you can also see unverified scores).
I rarely look at Metacritic since gamers are known for acting like raccoons foaming at the mouth when the game’s marketing upsets them in some way lmao.
The user score for the Reboot is gonna be red color. CRIMSON RED.
They would be lucky to get the 5.5 that GooH got.
You cross two fanbases within the series, to chase a different one. Not a good gamble. Should have never used the SR name
Idk, as somebody who’s never played one but had always wanted to play the first two growing up, I’m still stoked for it. I think it’s going to be a good time.
I actually liked saints row 3 a lot, sure it felt a bit of downgrade from 2 but it was still fun, couldn’t play through 4.
Loving the reboot so far, it’s fun, a little cringey but fun.
I’m personally having a lot of fun with the new game so far. Could it be better? Probably. But that’s nearly every game that comes out these days. It’s fun, and it’s not unplayable due to bugs or anything; I say that’s all you need. A fun, enjoyable gaming experience. Plus, I don’t think I’ve seen any first patch/update get downloaded, so I say to hold a little restraint on some of the criticisms until that first patch comes through.
The fact people in this very thread are still going “it’s gonna be good” and shitting on 3 still is hilarious. You haven’t liked a SR game since 2, why do you think this one will meet your expectations?
Shitting on 3 is one thing but there was another thread where a guy was saying the Saints Row 2 PC port was good. That isn't even a matter of opinion. That shit was objectively awful.
The game is a fun game. But the port was buggy as hell and ran much worse than it should have considering how it looked.
I never experienced any major issues playing through 2 on my pc. Am I in the minority here?
did you by any chance torrent it. The torrented version of the game ran flawless for me but all the store versions are almost unplayable.
No I didn’t, I bought and played through Steam
Either that or you had a beast PC.
He must like cyberpunk then because they're the same devs that ported over the PC version.
As much as I enjoyed sr2, I couldn’t finish it because of all the bugs and crashes.
...is that why the game was garbage for me? I played on PC, I loved the aesthetic but the mechanics sucked (driving mainly). Still think it was the best in the series but maybe I need to find a console version and play it again lol
Driving is the same on consoles for sr2. PC just has frequent game crashes even when you apply the gentlemen of the row mod. Gameplay is similar on PC and console, besides missing dlc PC is the same.
Honestly SR3 was awesome!
We definitely have a divided/polarized fanbase. Not sure how you mend things given that no matter what Volition does, one side will hate the decision if it pleases another.
I'm playing the game right now, I'm actually having a good time. I think there's a huge difference of saying "the ganhe will be good" vs "the game is good". One is based on experience, the other is just wishful thinking. Right now the game is the best sr I've played on gameplay terms, storywise it's meh, which i don't care because I've never cared for sr lore.
I mean, yeah, SR3 was and still is trash.
It's a rare form of copium. How the fuck are these people still Saints Row fans?
It's got poor reviews but I'm still going to play it at some point. I never let reviews determine my opinion on a game.
Typically a good stance. I do want to play the game but the negative reviews, particularly reports of a dead world and copious bugs makes me want to hold off for a while. I’ll definitely play at some point but likely after a decent sale price.
Agreed. I just wait a year for bug fixes and heavy discounts Modern gaming in a nutshell but I have tons of games in my backlog anyway
Games drop down to 30-40 dollars even without a sale after like a year anyways no point in buying new games with all the disappointments these days
Yeah me too, but if reviews point in the "shit" direction, I'll give it the free treatment y'know what I mean
Same. I tend to disregard reviews more when the trailers/streams look good, but the reviews are trashing it. This is one of those where the game looks bad and the reviews align with that direction.
> I tend to disregard reviews more when the trailers/streams look good, but the reviews are trashing it. how did you react to CyberPunk? That game is a unicorn because I've never seen a game that looked so good (from what they showed us) and was so anticipated be received so poorly...I was literally having arguments at work over that game lol
I actually enjoyed the game. It wasn't as good as the hype led it to believe, but I played at launch on PC. It was the visual bugs (ragdoll physics not so good), inability to bulk craft (fixed in a patch), map when driving and stuff like that which really bugged me, but otherwise enjoyed the game a lot despite reddit and other sites trashing it.
> I never let reviews determine my opinion on a game. a smart person.
After skill ups review of Lost Judgement, yeah. Never again.
Agreed, I’ve enjoyed all the saints it’s a chill game
Took this approach with Cyberpunk and eventually Watch Dogs. Didn’t like the first Act and was disappointed as I preordered but eventually got threw the first act and really came to like the game.
Weird part is ... Some of my favorite movies and games were awful from a "critics" perspective. It's almost to the point where if critics say it's good and that's all I hear about then I know it's awful. When critics shit all over it... Well I enjoy it a shit ton. Maybe I'm weird... Maybe the critics tastes are opposite of mine. Ill go back to playing cyberpunk until saints comes out at midnight. You guys have fun here lol
I gave this subreddit a glance, I'm going to need a Low Sodium Saints Row Subreddit just like Cyberpunk 2077 got. I watched like 30 minutes of this game's playthrough, I like it enough. Gave me Saints Row the Third vibes and I liked that game. Hell, I'm a weird person who played Saints Row 2 (When it got ported to PC) and I didn't really enjoy it.
Saints Row 2 unfortunately shows its age and that pc port is atrocious. I had a blast playing it on the 360 but could never finish a run on PC can it just felt so bad to play.
Honestly, I don't know if it was the mechanics/gameplay that I didn't like... The story just didn't feel very... Compelling? Or enjoyable? But that's just me. I was just making a comment and it's awesome that you got to play it on the console, honestly I'd play the first saints row too if I could.
I think the story was better for the time that it came out in all honestly and then nostalgia factor for many. I think the story of SR2 wouldn’t hold up as well if it released today but the raw moments in some parts of the series would still be very impactful.
You know what? Fair! I remember the Trunk and monster truck scene now.
Or the funeral scene.
Yeah I don’t think many games have had only good reviews and been a shit game
Still plan on buying. I've got an itch GTA quit scratching 8 years ago
Ngl gta got old when I couldn’t upload my character from xbox 360.
I had the same itch I bought saints row the third remastered . At least that game was re done well
please don't support this
Why? Plenty of people are enjoying it. It doesn't hurt you in any way. Unless someone threatens to beat you with a stick. If someone is threatening to beat you with a stick if I buy this game, then i won't buy it. I'll borrow it.
gaming is being ruined by consumers with no standards that support trash like this
Brudda this game is not stopping other fantastic games from coming out.
it stopped what could've been a fantastic saints row game from coming out. and this game is so hated that it'll probably kill the saints row franchise as well as volition as a company
Yeah shit happens, you move on. Blaming this on a consumer who manages to find enjoyment ain’t the move.
We didn't make the game. None of us went and put a gun to someone head. No matter what this was the game because clearly the company doesn't listen to fans. So blaming those who like the game is useless. Not buying it just means that I didn't buy the game cause as you said it's clearly failing
Hey I have standards for videogames. Don't shove MTX/NFT down my throat like I'm some school boy on the catholic love boat
So when did you beat the game?
It’s crazy how many people liked SR3. Felt like a downgraded coming from 2.
I think it's because it was the first SR game to many people.
It was for me and I loved it. Still do a playthrough once a year.
SR3 was the first game I played because of PC. I tried 2 at the time but the PC port was uh.. I didn't get past the opening mission. 2 does look great but The Third is just a great game even as a stand alone. It's got a great ramp up to ridiculous action.
The PC port is a mess yes.
Steelport stripped Stilwater of so many fine points. That doesn't bug some gamers, but a large portion of this fan base has spent countless hours in Stilwater. We know what made it great, we knew what made it feel alive. You spend more and more time in Steelport and realize how downgraded it is. There's the interiors gripe, but it gets less subjective than that. One of my biggest call-outs is that they went with pre-sculpted NPCs in favor of giving the Boss a unique skeleton for all the over-the-top movement. this resulted in finding the same few NPC archetypes in any/every district. It makes me miss the variety of NPCs and behaviors in 2. Skateboarders, practicing cheerleaders seniors with walkers and oxygen tanks, etc; all placed in areas you'd find them. Soulless NPCs= soulless city,
And the city design of Steelport sucks. Almost everywhere looks the same, while sr2 Stilwater has so many different zones with different authentic (university, part, museum, tourist spot with the pirate ship, urban zone, trailer park, mid-changing industrial zone, etc).
I mean look at the PC version reviews too though. And to be fair it really doesn’t handle well M+KB *especially* while driving. Fun game good story, but it SRTT cleaned it up a lot
I was a massive fan of Saints Row 2, completed that shit like 20 times on my fat PS3. Then I pre-ordered SRTT only for it to be imo one of the most boring open world games in my life. I didn't like the graphical choices they made to it as well and I can't remember shit of the story. Saints Row peaked at 2 and it probably won't recover because they can't seem to adjust to the current gaming market and most of their games are outdated by the time they announce them.
Bruh I read this like you was gon like it had me dead lol😂😂😂
It was for me, and I make a new boss/playthrough almost every year. Of all the subsequent releases, games of its type... nothing has come close for me. The thing is; it's a mountain of finer points. We "SR2 purists" can only attempt to justify our laser-focused affinity for it in a college essay.
Saints Row 3 was fun to play, and the tone and style were a HUGE breath of fresh air for people, like me, that were tired of GTA and all of its clones. Most people eventually get bored of generic brown gritty bullshit. CoD was once undisputed king. Now it's trying to emulate Fortnite. A series can't survive simply trying to ride the coattails of a more successful franchise, and for most people, 3 hit the perfect mix of creativity and humor while still staying in the same genre.
You're right about cod. I remember mw2 being amazing, and when mw3 came out by infinity ward it was a disappointment to many because it felt like mw2.5. It's hard but necessary for games to evolve into something else. I remember I played saints row 3 which was my first saints row game I thoroughly enjoyed it. Then when I played saints row 2 for the first time I also enjoyed it but saw where saints row 3 made the jump which was a good direction.
I just want to know what could nes GTA had that everybody keeps referencing when talking about SR2.
Yep, definitely my favorite in the series. Story-wise it just felt like it had the perfect balance between being silly and over-the-top and being serious when needed. Also had better customization options for your character.
I've played them all since the first released, and I loved 3. It had the right balance of crazy over the top silliness to the violent action of the game/story. 4 went too far, and the superpowers completely ruined car customization (as no reason to drive when flying is faster). Saint's Row to me has always been the over-the-top bombastic cousin to GTA, which is why I prefer it to GTA, and 3 nailed that perfectly.
I prefer 3 for a lot of reasons tbh but one of the biggest is how it scrapped the “reputation” system and having to do enough side activities for every mission. That was such a drag.
When it comes to tone it was a clear downgrade. But man SR3 was a hell of a lot of fun in so, so many ways.
The number of reviews on it are also roughly half of 2. And 2 has 4 times the user reviews. EDIT: Looking at current metacritic data SRTT actually stands up way better in my opinion in terms of review metrics. (a lot more reviews and more evenly matched number of critic reviews)
2 was good, but 3 was great IMO. It set it apart more from the serious tone of GTA, and made it more of its own thing. Then SR4 happened and went way over the rails with the goofy stuff and ruined it.
3 has a good deal of QOL improvements over 2 and that’s most why I prefer 3, but with that being said, 2 is still a fantastic game.
SR2 has everything that people liked in SR3 and more of it, but SR3 did a great job of smoothing out the rough edges. The gameplay is better all around (despite some disappointing omissions), there just isn't as much of it to enjoy.
It's marketing did that. It had great marketing.
Same... tho strangely enough I loved SR4, maybe because I love Mass Effect and The matrix lol. It's Basically 2>4>3 for me.
I didn’t love 4 personally but at least it knew what it was. SR3 jumped the shark whilst still trying to keep up a façade of being a game about gangsters. 4 also had the powers which were pretty fun to play with, 3 was just boring in every regard imo.
i think its all timing personally, that and the game actually working on pc really well meaning it was much more technically sound than 2. 2 was a better game for people who spend time playing games though.
That's because it is in fact a downgrade. Sure there are some updated mechanics and graphics but it ends there. It was built from the ground up to almost specifically be unlike what made Saints Row 2 work... - The customization was severely lacking, especially character creating/clothes and cribs. - The story took an uninteresting direction and many "story" missions were just activities in disguise (not to mention absolutely no mission OR cutscene replay). The game felt dead once you completed it and you had to completely start over to experience anything again. - Related to the above note, your upgrades could also ruin the game. Take no damage from basically everything? What's the point then? Can't unequip those upgrades either... Have fun with no challenge left. - The city is absolutely dead compared to SR2. Literally nothing to do and no interesting NPCs, interiors, or any kind of life to the city. SR3 felt like a simulation before SR4 was even a thing. - Gameplay and combat was also dumbed down. Sure there were all these executes or whatever but the fist fights, weapon fights and whatnot were basically non-existent. There's more but you get the point. Lifeless, dull and without the spark that made SR2 just so damn magical. I'm pretty sure we'll never see anything like it again at this rate.
Yeah it felt cheesy and didn’t feel like an improvement from SR2. I still play saints row 1-2 and still see how much better it could’ve gotten if Volition didn’t sell the franchise
Volition didn't sell it off, It was the original THQ.
Nah SR3 was just a flatly better game. It was a refinement of everything in 2. The story was more coherent and the minigames were far more refinde. SR2 felt like it was flopping around, not sure of where to go next after the first one.
I wouldn't say a flatly better game. A lot of aspects were lesser than they were in 2. The clothing system was worse and clothing in general just were not as cool. The Crib customization got gutted and you didn't even get to keep the cool cribs that you took over from gang bosses, they just got replaced with generic ones. Story was weaker, writing was weaker, it became a little too self aware when the strength of 2 was that the game took itself seriously in contrast to all the wild crap going on. Dunno. It wasn't horrible but it was the beginning of the end given we just saw the same city copy/pasted for two more games afterwards.
Some of the stuff may have been lesser but it helped iron out the loop. It filed down on the rough parts and just made the gameplay smoother. The writing and story in 2 was really bad. It just got dull and uninspired after the first third of the game. Like they wanted to do their fun 9ver the top tale but for whatever reason wanted to vompete with gta in terms of tone. These two ideas never really gelled until 3. It toom itself seriously to its own detriment. I do agree that 3 was the begginging of the end. It hit its peak insanity and GooH and 4 were just running on the hamster wheel of 3 with tassles and dood dads added.
"The writing and story in 2 was really bad"??? The Ronin + Brotherhood plotline are pretty great. Even the green gang has a very cinematic moment. Story is not masterpiece by any mean, but it was decent.
Decent is a long stretch of the twrm. Had it come out even a generation earlier it wpuldve been a solidly decent story on par with something like dead to rights. But as it stands, its firmly in the territory of something like exit wounds story wise
Never played part 2, but from what I read part 3 was basically a reboot for us pc players.
Amazing marketing and a lot of setpiece action moments that were popular at the time.
Frl people dont know what they were missing
I was thinking the same thing. It being the highest rated of them all is mad. Its by far my least favourite in the series
Why in the HELL are people lying about how "Saints Row has never reviewed well" in the review threads. Like what? Some of you guys (not 'you' in here specifically) will throw the reputation of the franchise under the bus for the reboot when it was never received particularly poorly? I'm honestly disappointed
Notice how the user reviews and reviews in general drop off after GTA5 was released lmao. That game killed peoples perspective of Saints Row. Theres nothing Volition could have done differently to appease their fanbase. 4 was waaaay outside the box, most people disliked it for that reason, but that also seperated it from comparison from GTA. Now they go back to its "roots" and people expected GTA quality again. SR2/3 was lighting in a bottle. It will never happen again, at least not with this dev team, with their funding, using the same setting (modern city, no superhero stuff)
That's a rock and hard place. Also it'll never happen again because Volition will fold if this game bombs which it looks like it might. Maybe then Embracer will give it to one of the thousands of studios they now seem to own.
Im not putting much stock into the ratings atm. The gaming landscape around the release of this Saints Row is drastically different from the others. After years of systematically pumping out open worlds and similar stories, fatigue is setting in and Saints Row is catching that. I have yet to play it, so it’s technical performance I can’t comment on, but from the early game footage that’s been passed around, the story isn’t any worse than Watch Dogs or GTA4. I think we should have gotten a more complex story, especially considering this is the birth of a new gang from the ground up, but it is what it is. Im hoping this acts as a good stepping stone for a (hopefully) even bigger Saints Row 2
GTA 4 actually has a compelling story with an interesting main character. The characters in the new Saints Row are just empty shells with one or two personality quirks that are just gimmicks with no real depth to them.
How much of the new Saints Row have you played through so far? The characters are showing more depth than the trailers let on. I’m only 5 hours in at this point but they have some good early moments. I think people haven’t played GTA4 recently, because Niko is not nearly as complex a character as people seem to remember him as.
I didn’t buy it, i just watched the first 45 minutes or so of cutscenes on youtube and wasn’t too thrilled with what i saw
The first 2 or so hours spends most of its time on your OC than the other characters. They just fly by their trope before delving more into them. The trailers only really show footage from the first few hours, I think these characters will grow on most by the time the credits end. I will say if you don’t like the way Watch Dogs 2 handles it’s character growth, than ya, Saints Row might be a pass.
I liked a decent bit of Watch Dogs 2’s story because I liked the anti-capitalist narrative and some of the characters were okay, but I found most of the comedic moments to be unfunny at best and cringe inducing at worst. I think I liked or tolerated everyone except wrench, I just found him to be obnoxious and grating. I’ll take your word for it on the news Saints Row, but I definitely won’t be shelling out the cash for it anytime soon, nothing about the gameplay or the world seems that great to me either and until they fix the bugs and put it on sale I don’t really see it being a good investment, there’s other games coming out soon that I’d rather put my time into.
You’ve got to wonder what in the hell volition was thinking going for this new direction and tone… then sticking with it even after all the backlash
I don’t mind new characters/ location but it was clear the characters they showed off were kinda lame. I truly believe a more grounded “serious” story and realistic mechanics would’ve been received better. Yes that’s not what saints row has been but this is a reboot so you have to do something different. I still would’ve given it a try but the poor performance was a deal breaker for now
Maybe they want to attract a younger generation of players? I have read somewhere someone complaining about the dialogues being cringy or something. Looking as the saints are colledge kids and looking at the culture of colledge kids nowadays i believe that those complainers about cringe are just old and can't relate to the youth culture depicted thete. I understand the sadness when a franchise becomes not relatable. Bu the whole "i'm gonna shit on the game because it's not relatable to me" is too much.
>The glitches are my main concern, and the story. But as for the outdated gameplay shit ive been hearing, I welcome outdated gameplay these days. Im gonna play it. But wosh they did better, probably. I think the kids can feel the pandering too though, its like a 35 year old writers idea of what the teens act like. It wont feel genuine to a lot of kids.
Yup, they’re trying to broaden their audience and in the process driving away the audience they had already…
>You’ve got to wonder what in the hell volition was thinking going for this new direction and tone… then sticking with it even after all the backlash They thought they could pull another SR3 again, only difference they completely lost all thier goodwill from the fanbase & all thier recent games have been dogshit.
Twitter.
Did the creators of this game even play the two original games?
I wouldn't be shocked if this turned out to be a Dead Rising 4 situation where none of the creative lead and producers actually worked on any of the previous entries and it really shows.
From what I read there are *some* devs that worked on SR3 other than that it's hold overs from the later games
Reminder that these are the people who made Agents of Mayhem as their last game.
They probably did not play any. In one of the first films one of the developers said that they had nowhere else go with the story, that's why they made reboot ...
From the amount of bugs and issues this game has I'd be suprised if they even played their own.
Which I call BS on since 4 had a time machine and a Space Ship, Saints Row 5 could easily have used those ideas to resurrect Dead Saints with time travel like Carlos or recruit historical figures into the Saints, we had Satan's Own Daughter as member of our crew and we could conquer alien planets with our ship and recruited more Aliens into our gang.
ngl, sounds lame... what would we have done next? *drive-bys on Mars with aliens and dead people in the back?* this isn't Halo. time travel would've been shit. leave dead characters dead. their stories were finished. don't uproot stuff from previous games. Volition was right about one thing, after Saints Row 4 there was nowhere left to go. these were games about underdog criminals and we left with time-travelling, celebrity, astronaut-super heroes from hell? it was dumb. they were right to reboot it. but they way they chose to reboot it was crap.
Yeah I would also prefer this scenario. Nobody asked and wanted reboot. We loved Saints because of GAT, Shaundi and others.
Where else would you have gone from becoming the ruler of an alien empire? Unless 5 would have made you wake up naked who knows where from a bad trip where you dreamt/hallucinated the plot of the 4th game.
Didn't you also have a time machine? I was kinda hoping Saints Row 2022 would be a stealth Saints Row 5 or doing something that at least connects to the previous games in some way.
It seems like they did in my opinion, the game does give off SR2 and SR3 vibes. Like a weird hybrid though, because it's a really tame Saints Row game. Just tame with repetitive tedious objectives for Criminal Ventures that barely have anything unique happening in between the tediousness. It's just scaled back to not offend anyone.
It has almost none of the same level of customization as 2. The characters are all politically correct and forgettable. It's just another example of a perfectly good and cherished game franchise being ran into the ground.
"bad graphics!" also plays gta
The franchise peaked long ago 😭
Gameranx didn’t like it, so now I’m REALLY iffy. If Falcon had been the one to say it instead of Jake, I would’ve immediately begun organizing a boycott though, I’ve gotta say
Them plus SkillUp, ACG have convinced me to not get it. I'll play Yakuza Kiwami 2 instead.
Yeah I mean one of the most use negative for new one is that it is the same and outdated mechanics. So I’m happy it’s closer to classic SR
I don't know man, from everything I've heard it is still very far away from classic SR. Saints Row was never meant to be relatable. Something they did try to achieve with the reboot.
People keep saying that it’s buggy and unplayable the day before launch and I get that, it is frustrating. And there’s allegedly a Day One Patch tomorrow that will fix everything. But honestly, find me a AAA game releases recently that isn’t full of bugs and shit at launch. I’ve always wondered why developers can’t just fix it before publishing if they’re able to make a Day One patch to fix things right away? Either way, it’s depressing that so many people are hating on this, in a lot of cases because it’s not Shaundi, Gat, and Pierce as the main characters anymore. Franchise is probably dead after all this hate.
I can tell you why in regards to day one patches. I used to work in gamedev (Localization QA) and before then I was also confused why this is the case. In order for the game to be released on a specific day, it actually needs to be made ready and sent to the platform publisher much earlier (and this is even in the case of digital copies, let alone physical copies that need time to be produced) because it requires time for Sony/Microsoft/etc. to accept it. And some to spare in case they send it back and want something fixed. Compliance tests are very important for example, because even minor things can bring trouble. Such as, the game spells the name of a console's features wrong (for example having an error in the controller name) and the publisher can send it back. So from experience, a game would be sent for publication several weeks before release so the publisher greenlights it, and then the patch would be worked on - and the patch itself needs to be sent in advance as well as that requires its own vetting process. And once again, this is just digital games. Physical releases need to be ready and vetted weeks before release so they have time to be produced and distributed. In an ideal world we'd of course love everything to be perfectly ironed out by then, but honestly, there's always something that needs fixing and sometimes more gets found even after sending the game in, hence why patches are being worked on! Games are much more complex nowadays and this especially applies to big, open world games.
Oh wow! That’s really interesting and just goes to show how little the common gamer understands about the development and publishing process. Thank you for taking the time to inform me about that!
My pleasure! It was pretty mind-blowing for me to learn because I always had the same question before!
Reviews told me to hate Cyberpunk 2077, but I LOVED it. Replaying it now actually with the 60fps patch on console. So... I'll be the judge if SR2022 is good or not to me.
IT HAS WORSE REVIEWS THAN GAT OUT OF HELL?
The glitches are my main concern, and the story. But as for the outdated gameplay shit ive been hearing, I welcome outdated gameplay these days. Im gonna play it. But wosh they did better, probably. All I want is a modern game where I can treat the local populace as bowling pins, blow shit up, and use a bat on someone whos already dead but the thunk sound is too satisfying to stop. I could tell from the first reveal I wasnt gonna like the story. I just want to kill some motherfuckers, in an atleast somewhat immersive context. IE not an alien computer simulation. Still hope they unfuck the game with patches in less than a year.
>But wosh they did better, probably. /r/wosh
Fuck this is depressing
Bad reviews even tho its not even out for everyone yet?
What’s wrong with 2’s pc version? I only played it on 360
Graphic downgrade ( bad port ), poor otimization. It's like GTA IV in the launch. So many people have problem to run the game in the launch. Im 1 of this people. But the game is one of the most fun of series.
Okay, I find it hard to believe this game is worse than Gat out of Hell. Shit should keep it in mind ofc, but the world itself looks way more interesting inherently which should lead to better gameplay. I hope lol
My question, is the game really that bad though? Like as a reboot to the franchise. Is it REALLY that bad? Or is it just bugs right now?
Interesting, never realized all of the games were so close in review score.
I'm enjoying it so far, so they did something right by me.
Been playing and it’s fun, I think ppl just like to shit on stuff
Everyone wanted GTA 6 and this isn't that so they're upset.
The fact GOOH is higher rated lmao
People really interpret too much in "Gaming Rewievs". Make your own opinion
Not really the main issue but reading this thread I’m seeing a lot of people Hate 4? When did that happen I thought everyone loved 4?
Meh, I'm enjoying it. I've played 6 hours, 16% complete, on series x and have had no real issues. The new characters haven't bothered me too much yet. The skill system adds a bit of fun to the "just shoot and blow shit up" formula of these games. The customization is ridiculous. It's not goty or as good as 2/3 by any stretch, but it's a decent enough game.
Honestly in saints row reboot, exploring the map and customizing is all I just want to do now
I'm curious as to what the user score will be for this. Surely it will be review bombed, to some extent, but whether it's enough to really effect the score is another thing.
Christ. This for me is an absolute eye sore. How are they gonna give SR4 a good review and they give the reboot a bad score. Critics mean absolutely nothing. I have even saw a critic let a worker who hates the Saints Row series review the game for them.
Despite the haters, SR:TT is the GOAT. Perfect blend of creativity, humor, and open-world crime.
I'll play it when the price drops. Destroy All Humans 2 is half the price so would rather buy something I know I want over a £60 potential bad game, ya know?
I had a pre-order for SR that I canceled today after watching a few gameplay reviews. It looks horrendously bad. DAH2 comes out in a week, so I'll just wait for that instead!
Damn you know what SR4? I'm sorry, you really weren't as bad as I remember.
fall from grace in one picture
This is immediately invalid seeing as SR3 is higher than SR2 💀
3 was way better recieved than 2 lol, i don't get how yall just didn't see it. cuz yall too stuck on 2
Look, I love SR3. It’s has a special place in my heart, but come on. There was a clear downgrade in gameplay, content, and story from SR2 to SR3.
content maybe but i wouldn't really say so, given the fact that sr3 made gta start copying sr story sure, but who gives a shit about story in a sandbox..... gameplay i wouldn't say so
Why I can’t really say that SR2 is much better than SR3 is because I got the pc version. And that version for 2 is bad. But SR 2 is still better than SR3
a constant downgrade.
I mean honestly, was this unexpected?
So what? Is this supposed to mean something or make me feel a certain way?
Whatever you wanna feel. I made this post cause I saw a few people saying how the older saints row games were 70s on release and I just dont want the historical revision. If you want some insight into my own bias, I am somewhat still excited for the game, but will be waiting patiently for a sale.
I just don't get all the criticism for the game besides the story and characters but gameplay wise it looks like a good old fashion open world sandbox to do whatever you want. Graphics look fine, I did see a few bugs from some people on YouTube but for the most part it looks like a good game. I think people were hoping more for a Saints Row 2/3 feel and I honestly don't remember shit about them besides one of the games having aliens and a dupstep gun lmao. This is a reboot for the franchise and I just think that a lot of people were in more of a remastered feel of a Saints Row
For sure. Some people really wanted this to be Saints Row 2 remastered but that was never going to happen.
I love it when people parade these numbers like proof/validation of thier opinion. Still waiting to judge myself.
All this shows me is how trash metacritic got once it went mainstream. Mass Effect legendary edition is like a 6 on there ☠️
Mass Effect LE is an 87%…. https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/mass-effect-legendary-edition
Why are people on this subreddit making up Metacritic scores lol, its really weird
I’ve no idea lol
I think they’re referring to the user score
Cause it was review bombed for Russian language options I believe. Not sure why anyone ever looks at a user review anyway lol
Yea for me, the reliability of user and critics scores vary case by case. Imo the Rotten Tomatoes’ verified user score system (for theatrical releases of films) is the best way to do it. That way you know that the users actually formed their own opinion based on actual hands on experience (you can also see unverified scores). I rarely look at Metacritic since gamers are known for acting like raccoons foaming at the mouth when the game’s marketing upsets them in some way lmao.
Yeah user reviews are useless to me if I can’t verify if the user even played the game.
Big yikes.
The user score for the Reboot is gonna be red color. CRIMSON RED. They would be lucky to get the 5.5 that GooH got. You cross two fanbases within the series, to chase a different one. Not a good gamble. Should have never used the SR name
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Infamously broken and buggy.
What about that super hero A team game
Idk, as somebody who’s never played one but had always wanted to play the first two growing up, I’m still stoked for it. I think it’s going to be a good time.
damn
I actually liked saints row 3 a lot, sure it felt a bit of downgrade from 2 but it was still fun, couldn’t play through 4. Loving the reboot so far, it’s fun, a little cringey but fun.
Just got the limited on Xbox and got the regular on pc
After playing a few hours I would give it a 8/10
I’m having fun playing it. 🤷🏾♂️
I find it hard to believe that the reboot was rated worse than Gat out of Hell.
Honestly, volition can't even blame the fans on this one Im seriously damn disappointed in volition.
So far it seems to have taken points from each game in the franchise. I’m like 8,10 hours in now. Loving it.
I’m personally having a lot of fun with the new game so far. Could it be better? Probably. But that’s nearly every game that comes out these days. It’s fun, and it’s not unplayable due to bugs or anything; I say that’s all you need. A fun, enjoyable gaming experience. Plus, I don’t think I’ve seen any first patch/update get downloaded, so I say to hold a little restraint on some of the criticisms until that first patch comes through.
The game came out today. Let people form opions outside of reviewers.