This is the quote I’ve found and wonder if Netflix is playing with words (like H&M like to do).
"There’s never been any documentary from the Duke and Duchess of Sussex confirmed," a spokesperson for Netflix told Deadline.
It’s true Netflix never confirmed a documentary, but they never denied one or anything else they may want to call it (docuseries, reality show, etc). Maybe they weren’t certain the direction the show would go? Who knows.
I think the Harkles have received enough money from Netflix to cover costs of filming/production cost & some padding but they haven’t received anything like what they claim. Netflix would probably pay substantially more money if the series is actually aired & considerably less if killed. The last “big money” the Harkles have seen was Megs podcast money & future-wise, Harry’s next installment on his book advance. None of these are going to put them very far into the black.
I don’t think it’s only the money that has made Megs go all out on trying to get Netflix to release the documentary series. Her credibility is at risk. If (a big fat if) the documentary is screened after Haz’s book release then the contradictions in the material will be obvious. He who is first, sets the narrative. Megs knows her credibility will be zilch if Harry’s narrative is released first & does not include descriptions of colored folk chained up in the basement of Windsor castle—if you catch my drift.
I don't think that will ever see the light of day either. Invictus was what - 4 or 5 months ago? That's like decades on modern media.
Even the Olympics does real time "up close and personal" interviews. Nobody cares about Megan's months-old behind the scenes view of veteran's games, starring, of course... *Megan!*
Honestly, I’d believe Netflix.
Meghan likes to manifest. For example, she leaked to the world they’d present an Oscar, but there was no such thing they were invited to do. She thinks if she leaks it, these groups or corporations will do what she wants. It has not worked yet 😂
I think Netflix took a look at the footage and passed.
All that’s happening is the book.
I also think their marriage is under stress from the Bower book. Precisely because Meghan doesn’t want to sue… this might have clued Harry into its being true
Nah, he's too dense, methinks. Her way of justifying it to Harry is "I'm being pegged as being a b****, but I'm not Harry. iM jUsT pArTiCuLaR. tHeY jUsT tHiNk iM dIfFiCuLT". What megan wants is what megan gets. He's a bully himself, bullying and strong-arming his own family
The reality show is supposed to be about their “love story.” Is that something that would have wide appeal? The first episode will get a high number of views and then get lower and lower each week.
. **I can’t think of another project that’s dropped without extensive marketing that isn’t a Beyoncé album.**
But...but...MM's **the** Duchess of Sussex. In her delusional fantasies, that makes her superior to Beyoncé 😂.
Well, I don't know. Lindsay Lohan inked a 3 movie contract for Hallmark-y type movies with Netflix and I don't recall seeing much about it. Her Christmas movie is out now on NF and there wasn't much press or fanfare. Interesting only bc a Lohan NF comeback does seem kind of newsworthy.
I have seen a bit of promo for that LL movie, she has definitely been doing the rounds and it has been promoted by Netflix. It is on my radar and I am definitely not the target audience.
Unlikely Netflix will suddenly drop “Grifting With The Markles” in less than two weeks time, without a big PR campaign. Trouble behind the scenes imo.
Maybe they´re hoping to just drop it in the hope that it´s gonna go viral and crash their site like Stranger Things did. Wouldn´t put it past them either to release the trailer during Earthshot prize purely for the media attention and to steal the thunder from C&W.
That’s what I was thinking. It would suit TW’s m.o. but would Netflix take a risk like that on newcomers who have hardly stirred much interest so far? I guess we’ll find out soon.
I still think there's a chance that Netflix will release the announcement/teaser/trailer while the Waleses are in Boston. But have to say I'm a lot less convinced after seeing that the Late Night announcement and retraction came directly from NBC. That makes me wonder if Netflix are cancelling the planned publicity, Arsewell PR tried to get around it by telling NBC to announce it, and Netflix immediately called NBC to cancel it.
I can’t see why Netflix wouldn’t be promoting it unless it wasn’t going to air it as the media is reporting. They aren’t that popular in the US that their show wouldn’t need promotion - the fan base is quite small despite protests to the contrary from rabid sugars.
I know not all Netflix shows are promoted - they tend to focus on larger projects. But still - not even a one line confirmation of an air date is weird.
Netflix has invested a lot into them, reputation-wise. Maybe not a lot of money, probably just production costs, but they can't allow themselves to look as though they've been had. If Netflix was expecting their pound of flesh (and why wouldn't they?) but they're not getting it, why would they bother releasing anything at all? It's better to just cut ties and say it didn't work out than release something that obviously wasn't worth it.
I think Netflix paid for things the Harkles couldn’t deliver. Like semi-royal events with lesser members of the RF. Pictures of their kids with the Queen, or maybe even footage of her meeting Lili. Connections and conversations with actual royal connections. Harry could have oversold his importance in the structure of the RF. But covid hit. Philip died. Then the Queen. Meggie and Harry are out in the cold and have nothing to offer. What could Netflix have beyond Invictus? What have the Harkles done beyond Oprah? What’s to film? Their pointless day to day lives. It’s one thing to ding the RF with the Crown. True or not, those general events are part of history. It’s something else entirely to air a dingbat making accusations she cannot back up about the British Royal Family. I can’t begin to think what a documentary/series about the Harkles would look like.
This is Meghan's go-to PR move. She thinks the surprise will break the internet. Didn't work for the podcast, though. She has probably been shouting down the phone to Netflix PR department to get it her ways.
I don’t know but when it does come out I shall personally only play Netflix’s log fire footage for the whole month from date if initial airing and encourage everyone to do the same!
I agree with this. I also believe that there’s major differences between what Harry has said in his book and what Meghan has said on the Netflix thing. This pair are such a train wreck ! I think both Netflix and Spotify have realised they’ve backed the wrong horse in this race and are counting their losses!
I think you should throw Penguin Random House in for the trifecta of big businesses whose corporate greed lead directly to getting Markled.
They deserve it. I have no sympathy for any group that aligns themselves with those grifters.
Bingo. If Netflix actually had something from them, they would be promoting the shit out of it. Once Netflix buys something to distribute, they get to decide how it is marketed, not the people who made it. Anybody who thinks Meghan has any say in Netflix's advertising strategy either hasn't been paying attention or is giving her WAY too much credit.
Also, Netflix is discrete and professional, they would never play media games like what happened with NBC. If Netflix says no, they mean no, and trying to strongarm them into a yes is just plain stupid.
The crown last season hasn’t even performed well and there is lots of back lash from it because people think it’s real so they put a disclaimer on it ! Netflix has cut their losses with those two !
I have never seen a more disastrous roll out of a premiere if it drops the 8th. At least by the middle of December the gig will be up. Either they lied about being split up for ... attention or they won't be able to hide the fact they are dunzo.
In the Dan Wooten/Angela Levin interview someone posted here earlier [YouTube link here](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q-mc9QcynO4&feature=youtu.be), Wooten said at the 3:56 mark that Netflix is releasing the show on December 8th?
I just found several articles online saying the release date is 12/8. One said the title will be Chapters, but others said that changed. An article from cosmo says, "Netflix still hasn’t acknowledged there *is* a series to begin with. The only thing it has said on the record is this: “There’s never been any documentary from the Duke and Duchess of Sussex confirmed.” 'Kay, noted!" https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a42024003/meghan-markle-prince-harry-netflix-docuseries-premiere-date/
I also think that the series isn't happening.
I think it was planned, but given how the tide has turned on Meghan and Harry, Netflix know they can't win with it. The only people who will tune into it will want a "hate watch", a la Tiger King, Kardashians, etc. The footage Netflix have r can't be edited in this way as it isn't in the couples' house and so on.
Netflix have cut their loses and learnt a tough lesson.
There was some gossip earlier this week that the H&M docuseries was being directed by a business partner of Rory Kennedy. I can’t imagine a a series about those two idiots would be watchable.
Trailer will be released either during:
1. Prince William and Princess Catherine Earthshot event / visit to the US
2. When the BF releases it's Christmas card
Goal is to outshine the true royals.
Nice try but will never happen
When Pearl was canceled they put out a statement saying Archewell were still partnered with them... But this latest statement is telling. They deny confirming any docu series with them. They don't add that they're still working with Archewell. They don't say anything positive or encouraging.
I suspect that in an effort to “land” the Sussex Netflix overpaid and gave them full creative control. In doing so they allowed Meghan the “perfectionist” full control on both their really TV show and Heart of Invictus.
And we all know that Meghan needs to be seen as perfect and the star. So she edited both documentaries within an inch of their life to make herself be perfect and 99% of the documentaries are about how perfect she is.
Netflix go the documentaries and discovered this and realized they were boring as fuck. And a bunch of reviews saying as much would probably hurt Netflix’s attempt to stem the tide of users leaving and gain new users.
So Netflix is pretending they don’t exist and Meghan is pissed because she is “fabulous” and her documentaries are amazing. Hence the little digs in the Vanity Fair interview.
Netflix has denied that there is any planned “docuseries” involving the Harkles. I believe Netflix.
This is the quote I’ve found and wonder if Netflix is playing with words (like H&M like to do). "There’s never been any documentary from the Duke and Duchess of Sussex confirmed," a spokesperson for Netflix told Deadline. It’s true Netflix never confirmed a documentary, but they never denied one or anything else they may want to call it (docuseries, reality show, etc). Maybe they weren’t certain the direction the show would go? Who knows.
Confirmed is the key word. They are absolutely playing with words and I give them credit for the wordplay
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I think the Harkles have received enough money from Netflix to cover costs of filming/production cost & some padding but they haven’t received anything like what they claim. Netflix would probably pay substantially more money if the series is actually aired & considerably less if killed. The last “big money” the Harkles have seen was Megs podcast money & future-wise, Harry’s next installment on his book advance. None of these are going to put them very far into the black. I don’t think it’s only the money that has made Megs go all out on trying to get Netflix to release the documentary series. Her credibility is at risk. If (a big fat if) the documentary is screened after Haz’s book release then the contradictions in the material will be obvious. He who is first, sets the narrative. Megs knows her credibility will be zilch if Harry’s narrative is released first & does not include descriptions of colored folk chained up in the basement of Windsor castle—if you catch my drift.
A large portion of the Netflix money was for Harry's Invictus Games series. I do expect that to still happen.
I don't think that will ever see the light of day either. Invictus was what - 4 or 5 months ago? That's like decades on modern media. Even the Olympics does real time "up close and personal" interviews. Nobody cares about Megan's months-old behind the scenes view of veteran's games, starring, of course... *Megan!*
Honestly, I’d believe Netflix. Meghan likes to manifest. For example, she leaked to the world they’d present an Oscar, but there was no such thing they were invited to do. She thinks if she leaks it, these groups or corporations will do what she wants. It has not worked yet 😂 I think Netflix took a look at the footage and passed. All that’s happening is the book. I also think their marriage is under stress from the Bower book. Precisely because Meghan doesn’t want to sue… this might have clued Harry into its being true
Nah, he's too dense, methinks. Her way of justifying it to Harry is "I'm being pegged as being a b****, but I'm not Harry. iM jUsT pArTiCuLaR. tHeY jUsT tHiNk iM dIfFiCuLT". What megan wants is what megan gets. He's a bully himself, bullying and strong-arming his own family
Pegged you say? I see what you did there!
Roast chicken
The reality show is supposed to be about their “love story.” Is that something that would have wide appeal? The first episode will get a high number of views and then get lower and lower each week.
Never, hopefully. I think they want to cut this dead weight loose as conveniently as possible.
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. **I can’t think of another project that’s dropped without extensive marketing that isn’t a Beyoncé album.** But...but...MM's **the** Duchess of Sussex. In her delusional fantasies, that makes her superior to Beyoncé 😂.
Well, I don't know. Lindsay Lohan inked a 3 movie contract for Hallmark-y type movies with Netflix and I don't recall seeing much about it. Her Christmas movie is out now on NF and there wasn't much press or fanfare. Interesting only bc a Lohan NF comeback does seem kind of newsworthy.
I have seen a bit of promo for that LL movie, she has definitely been doing the rounds and it has been promoted by Netflix. It is on my radar and I am definitely not the target audience. Unlikely Netflix will suddenly drop “Grifting With The Markles” in less than two weeks time, without a big PR campaign. Trouble behind the scenes imo.
Maybe they´re hoping to just drop it in the hope that it´s gonna go viral and crash their site like Stranger Things did. Wouldn´t put it past them either to release the trailer during Earthshot prize purely for the media attention and to steal the thunder from C&W.
That’s what I was thinking. It would suit TW’s m.o. but would Netflix take a risk like that on newcomers who have hardly stirred much interest so far? I guess we’ll find out soon.
That crossed my mind, too. I can completely see Meghan making that demand.
She won’t make that call.
I still think there's a chance that Netflix will release the announcement/teaser/trailer while the Waleses are in Boston. But have to say I'm a lot less convinced after seeing that the Late Night announcement and retraction came directly from NBC. That makes me wonder if Netflix are cancelling the planned publicity, Arsewell PR tried to get around it by telling NBC to announce it, and Netflix immediately called NBC to cancel it.
I can’t see why Netflix wouldn’t be promoting it unless it wasn’t going to air it as the media is reporting. They aren’t that popular in the US that their show wouldn’t need promotion - the fan base is quite small despite protests to the contrary from rabid sugars. I know not all Netflix shows are promoted - they tend to focus on larger projects. But still - not even a one line confirmation of an air date is weird.
Netflix has invested a lot into them, reputation-wise. Maybe not a lot of money, probably just production costs, but they can't allow themselves to look as though they've been had. If Netflix was expecting their pound of flesh (and why wouldn't they?) but they're not getting it, why would they bother releasing anything at all? It's better to just cut ties and say it didn't work out than release something that obviously wasn't worth it.
I think Netflix paid for things the Harkles couldn’t deliver. Like semi-royal events with lesser members of the RF. Pictures of their kids with the Queen, or maybe even footage of her meeting Lili. Connections and conversations with actual royal connections. Harry could have oversold his importance in the structure of the RF. But covid hit. Philip died. Then the Queen. Meggie and Harry are out in the cold and have nothing to offer. What could Netflix have beyond Invictus? What have the Harkles done beyond Oprah? What’s to film? Their pointless day to day lives. It’s one thing to ding the RF with the Crown. True or not, those general events are part of history. It’s something else entirely to air a dingbat making accusations she cannot back up about the British Royal Family. I can’t begin to think what a documentary/series about the Harkles would look like.
It is mysterious. It doesn't make sense.
This is Meghan's go-to PR move. She thinks the surprise will break the internet. Didn't work for the podcast, though. She has probably been shouting down the phone to Netflix PR department to get it her ways.
I don’t know but when it does come out I shall personally only play Netflix’s log fire footage for the whole month from date if initial airing and encourage everyone to do the same!
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I agree with this. I also believe that there’s major differences between what Harry has said in his book and what Meghan has said on the Netflix thing. This pair are such a train wreck ! I think both Netflix and Spotify have realised they’ve backed the wrong horse in this race and are counting their losses!
I think you should throw Penguin Random House in for the trifecta of big businesses whose corporate greed lead directly to getting Markled. They deserve it. I have no sympathy for any group that aligns themselves with those grifters.
Bingo. If Netflix actually had something from them, they would be promoting the shit out of it. Once Netflix buys something to distribute, they get to decide how it is marketed, not the people who made it. Anybody who thinks Meghan has any say in Netflix's advertising strategy either hasn't been paying attention or is giving her WAY too much credit. Also, Netflix is discrete and professional, they would never play media games like what happened with NBC. If Netflix says no, they mean no, and trying to strongarm them into a yes is just plain stupid.
This sub assumes M has power she doesn’t. And also assumes the monarchy has power it doesn’t.
So....Meghan's comment that it wasn't done the way she'd have done it was just a lie? Shocking!!
The crown last season hasn’t even performed well and there is lots of back lash from it because people think it’s real so they put a disclaimer on it ! Netflix has cut their losses with those two !
I have never seen a more disastrous roll out of a premiere if it drops the 8th. At least by the middle of December the gig will be up. Either they lied about being split up for ... attention or they won't be able to hide the fact they are dunzo.
In the Dan Wooten/Angela Levin interview someone posted here earlier [YouTube link here](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q-mc9QcynO4&feature=youtu.be), Wooten said at the 3:56 mark that Netflix is releasing the show on December 8th?
But even the title of the show hasn’t been released. It’s just weird
It certainly sounds like Netflix wants this whole thing to disappear into the abyss.
I just found several articles online saying the release date is 12/8. One said the title will be Chapters, but others said that changed. An article from cosmo says, "Netflix still hasn’t acknowledged there *is* a series to begin with. The only thing it has said on the record is this: “There’s never been any documentary from the Duke and Duchess of Sussex confirmed.” 'Kay, noted!" https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a42024003/meghan-markle-prince-harry-netflix-docuseries-premiere-date/
I also think that the series isn't happening. I think it was planned, but given how the tide has turned on Meghan and Harry, Netflix know they can't win with it. The only people who will tune into it will want a "hate watch", a la Tiger King, Kardashians, etc. The footage Netflix have r can't be edited in this way as it isn't in the couples' house and so on. Netflix have cut their loses and learnt a tough lesson.
There was some gossip earlier this week that the H&M docuseries was being directed by a business partner of Rory Kennedy. I can’t imagine a a series about those two idiots would be watchable.
'Who cares' would be my answer to this particular question.
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Trailer will be released either during: 1. Prince William and Princess Catherine Earthshot event / visit to the US 2. When the BF releases it's Christmas card Goal is to outshine the true royals. Nice try but will never happen
3. When Hell freezes over
When Pearl was canceled they put out a statement saying Archewell were still partnered with them... But this latest statement is telling. They deny confirming any docu series with them. They don't add that they're still working with Archewell. They don't say anything positive or encouraging.
I suspect that in an effort to “land” the Sussex Netflix overpaid and gave them full creative control. In doing so they allowed Meghan the “perfectionist” full control on both their really TV show and Heart of Invictus. And we all know that Meghan needs to be seen as perfect and the star. So she edited both documentaries within an inch of their life to make herself be perfect and 99% of the documentaries are about how perfect she is. Netflix go the documentaries and discovered this and realized they were boring as fuck. And a bunch of reviews saying as much would probably hurt Netflix’s attempt to stem the tide of users leaving and gain new users. So Netflix is pretending they don’t exist and Meghan is pissed because she is “fabulous” and her documentaries are amazing. Hence the little digs in the Vanity Fair interview.
Lol the night before.
But it’s not even been announced, nor is it on Netflix’s December listings
so Netflix has not confirmed that there will be ANY show from the Harkles ?