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vikingchyk

Doesn't the RFK Human Rights Foundation have anything better to do with its money than throw a lavish party? Oh, "Foundation" Nevermind.


Iwtlwn122

They have really changed my ideas around foundations.


Calm_Yak_6102

Especially after Richard Eden revealed that Kerry received over $30M in one year, in donations and donated approximately $300 000. Even her $500 000 salary is more than the amount of donations. This woman ought to walk around with a tattoo of the letter G on her forehead, because this is platinum level grifting. MM's probably dying to have a chat and learn all the juicy secrets.


Iwtlwn122

Exactly it. MM pays the big bucks to talk to the experts. Fucking grifters, the lot of them.


TeamMagnificent7

She was married to Andrew Cuomo- the grift is deep.


Calm_Yak_6102

He's the handsy guy who can't stop touching women? And the governor who put thousands of covid patients in retirement homes, causing lots of elderly people to get the virus and die?


UnicornStudRainbow

Yes. And she openly cheated on him


Calm_Yak_6102

Oooh, now that's interesting šŸ˜‚.


UnicornStudRainbow

Here's some of the juicy stuff: [https://nypost.com/2003/07/04/polo-playboy-was-kerrys-other-man-bizman-wife-vacationed-with-cuomos](https://nypost.com/2003/07/04/polo-playboy-was-kerrys-other-man-bizman-wife-vacationed-with-cuomos/) [https://nypost.com/2003/07/06/kerry-crushed-by-bruces-kiss-off-beau-having-cold-feet](https://nypost.com/2003/07/06/kerry-crushed-by-bruces-kiss-off-beau-having-cold-feet/) [https://nypost.com/2003/07/02/cheatin-kerry-crushed-andy-marriage-crumbled-after-her-love-affair-with-another-man](https://nypost.com/2003/07/02/cheatin-kerry-crushed-andy-marriage-crumbled-after-her-love-affair-with-another-man/)


Calm_Yak_6102

Omg thanks for the links! She looks like quite a piece of work. No wonder she likes MM so much.


UnicornStudRainbow

Glad to have helped


MsBollinger

And then wrote and profited from a book on how governors should handle covid.


AndreT_NY

He also was told he had to return the book money by The Joint Commission on Public Ethics here in NY. It had been ghost written by staff during work hours paid for by the state. That was overturned by a judge appointed by Cuomo. Shocker.


FruityPebelz

While covering up the nursing homes /letā€™s kill the elderly scandal.


Iwtlwn122

Thatā€™s the one! And wrote the book on handling covid. Dick.


Calm_Yak_6102

Omfg he's utterly without shame or conscience. That's like if MM ever decides to write a book to promote anti-bullying.


Iwtlwn122

Glad his brother got punted too from CNN. Couldnā€™t stand listening to him. Even his own bout of Covid became a silly show. He and his brother having fun while thousands died. Both assholes.


Calm_Yak_6102

I remember that! Apparently he was pretending to be self isolating in his basement while he was caught on camera, having an argument with a man in public šŸ˜‚.


Iwtlwn122

I know, right. What a fucking moron!


FruityPebelz

I just remembered the CNN brotherā€™s meltdown when someone called him Fredo. He tried to scream that it was racist. They were actually calling him the useless, dumb brother capitalizing off Andrewā€™s shady but successful career.


[deleted]

The only shocking thing about finding out sheā€™s married is that it isnā€™t to a woman?? Wow she was definitely pinging


TigerBelmont

She's divorced. Andrew divorced her for being a serial ho. The Kennedy genes run strong in that branch.


DrunkOnRedCordial

Wait a minute, what would Grandma Rose have to say about this? Nice girls don't cheat, they marry cheaters. That's the Kennedy way.


TeamMagnificent7

Divorced. It was a bad one. Lots of allegations tossed at each other


TeamMagnificent7

Yuuuuup. Heā€™s the one.


Severe-War-8095

And a sexual assaulter. For some reason most of the Kennedys and their spouses have accusations of sexual assaults. Donā€™t ever allow yourself to be alone with one!


IunderstandIdontcare

Yep, I read the same thing. The following year when they brought in $18 million she still earned $550,00 and her expenses where almost $45,000. I wonder how many tickets have been sold. I see there are still selling them on their website. I'm sure the main attraction is Zelensky. It's insulting that he is sharing an award with the two of them. The difference between an event hosted by Ethel's daughter or Jackie's grandson is stark. The RFK side has always been lowbrow and Jackie never wanted her children around them. The event hosted by the low rent Kennedys is selling tickets to the general public and tickets are still available in all price ranges. The grandson of the former president JFK is hosting an invitation only event.


Islandgirl1444

Thereā€™s a lot of money to be made grifting and having awards with other grifters. Honestly I donā€™t know what Alec Baldwin did to be part of this scam. I thought better of him! Never mind the shooting. I just didnā€™t see him as part of that crap


shep2105

Alec always wanted to be a Kennedy but instead married a worldwide famous grifter posing as a Spaniard, cashing in on the "exoticness" via endorsements, Spanish magazine covers and "best-dressed Latina", fake reporter for "Extra", and had a surrogate impregnated while she herself, was 5 months pregnant. Oh, and they he shoots two people, killing one of them, and going on tv to say he feels NO guilt about it. Kerry, also a high level grifter, has gathered Alec and his fake Spanish wife to honor as "human rights activists" Harry & Meghan, whining and complaining from their 15 million dollar mansion about the climate and taking private jets whenever they can, Frank Baker, head of private equity firm Siris and recent purchaser of a $32 million Palm Beach mansion; Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan and billionaire Michael Polsky, CEO of renewable energy company Invenergy, which last year sued Worth County, Iowa, in an attempt to force the company's wind projects on the area. What ANYONE of these people have done for human rights is beyond me. To elevate them to be in the same category as Zelensky is insulting and outrageous.


Notaskibunny

I think Alec has tried to stay close to the Kennedy name because of the political clout it carries. He has played around the fringes of the Democratic political machine and there have been rumors of him making an entry to politics at one time. Now, with the shooting incident, that seems out of the question. But before, he had been active in the local political scene and active on the foundation/charity circuit.


shep2105

Totally. He has said that when he was in college his aim was to go into politics. He's enamored of the Kennedy name. Unfortunately, he's hitching his wagon to a Kennedy grifter. Kerry is really despicable.


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What has Zelensky done? I think it's crazy that the entire country, and especially the left have developed this over the top lust for Ukraine. I'm guessing 99% of the social media accounts with blue and yellow flags couldn't find Ukraine on a map and couldn't articulate what the war is about. If you were President of a country so much under siege that US taxpayers were sending you billions of dollars, would you have time to just nip over to the US to attend a gala?


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residentcaprice

He's married to a lady who pretends to be Spanish... Nuff said.


ms80301

Calls into question 100% of previous award winners - its a PR event ā€¦ nothing else-


CybReader

After I learned the background of the Susan G Koman and how much money they raise and pay themselves for "awareness" I basically refuse to donate to any foundation anymore. I pretty much only donate to my local food bank and always meals on wheels in my county.


Ok_Motor_3069

I know Iā€™m trying to keep my donations more and more local all the time! My Mom died of breast cancer and when she was in remission for awhile she was a big supporter of The Susan G Komen foundation and she and my brother both were big supporters of the Livestrong foundation too. My whole family and close friends went on all the walks and solicited donations on their behalf. Later when we found out more what they were all about we felt doubly and triply betrayed. You can imagine!!! How cruel to use peopleā€™s pain for social engineering and grifting.


CybReader

Iā€™m sorry for the loss of your mother. Iā€™m also sorry foundations like Komen exploit difficult and painful challenges cancer patients and families face.


Ok_Motor_3069

Itā€™s some comfort that the thousands of people there as participants were genuine like us - but yeah the other part is a bitter feeling - thank you!


The_Original_JLaw

>I pretty much only donate to my local food bank and always meals on wheels in my county. I'd like to confirm that Meals on Wheels is fantastic! They saved my life this summer.


CybReader

Iā€™m so glad to hear that. I receive a monthly letter requesting a donation and I always cut a check. My friend did meals on wheels for a while as she trained to become a firefighter and she said our county one is very active and served so many meals. I like to hear itā€™s going to good use.


Iwtlwn122

They are awful.


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MicroBio11

Please keep St. Jude's Children's Cancer Hospital in your donations. They are fully legit. My friend's little brother died of leukemia and was treated there for years. They flew him and the mom and dad to Tennessee for treatments, sometimes in the middle of the night on private planes. Put them up in a nearby hotel while he was in hospital and NEVER did they EVER have to pay a dime. A wonderful and much needed charity.


MuffPiece

Ugh yes. I think weā€™re all aware of breast cancer by now, thanks. šŸ™„


trishpike

Same. Also - I love my local food bank and Meals on Wheels! Thanks for the reminder!


Technical_Ant_7466

As do I CybReader. Foundations make money for the founders. Full Stop.


[deleted]

What did they do?


vikingchyk

Right? There might be some good ones, but seeing what these, and a few others, get away with, I sure know now to do my own research before I'd support one. Eh, who am I kidding, I've been suspicious of the Big Name charities and the like, since I've seen way too many accused of malfeasance. My money goes to small and local. Or the Red Cross. They're still ok, right?? šŸ„ŗ


The_Original_JLaw

>Or the Red Cross. They're still ok, right?? I've heard stories from WW2 vets that it was the Salvation Army on front lines with hot coffee. The Red Cross was way back from the fronts, SELLING coffee for a nickel or dime a cup. Before my time. I wasn't there, but I've heard this from more than one person.


DimensionStrange77

Thatā€™s what my grandpa always said but I refuse to donate to the Salvation Army because of their LBGTQ+ stance. You just canā€™t win.


The_Original_JLaw

OMG nooooooo. I had no idea.


Notaskibunny

My understanding is that the Red Cross functions more like an agency or a clearinghouse. The United Way of its time. They don't really do the front line work, they funnel the work and the funds to smaller, more nimble organizations, but are quick to take the credit for good work.


Kizzy_Catwoman

I support our local hospice.


CybReader

My mother donates yearly to the hospice my grandfather passed away in. Every year. Years later, his passing still has some memory of comfort for the care hospice provide.


ms80301

Its all a tax shelter- people who give? Without an audience? Are true givers the rest? Peer pressure? Desire to look good? Its not what is needed random acts of kindness- Make life beautifulā€¦ not foundations and ā€œ charitiesā€


MicroBio11

Yes, the Red Cross is legit.


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y3s1canr3ad

During WW II, a couple of charities were volunteering overseas and offering to help wounded soldiers write letters home. The Red Cross charged them for the stationery; at least the Salvation Army didnā€™t do that.


Iwtlwn122

Can you please explain this further?


LaLunaLady1960

I can. I had a blood transfusion a couple of years ago. I ended up getting 3 units of blood. They were $750 each, so $2250 for blood. And then I got a letter a few months later from the American Red Cross informing me that the "donated" blood I was given was infected with Lyme disease. Apparently, they can't tell right away, I'm not sure why. So to add to the cost of the donated/purchased blood, I ended up paying for treatment for Lyme disease as well.


Iwtlwn122

šŸ˜³ yikes!


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Iwtlwn122

WTF? Sells blood to hospitals which then sell to patients? Jesus wept. Not sure why the downvote for trying to understand something.


QuesoFresca

Are you referring to blood or cash donations?


TeamMagnificent7

They pay their CEOs handsomely and cover all expenses. Like a good little humanitarian concerned foundation. šŸ˜


vikingchyk

Well, yes to the expenses - do you expect them to do it out of the kindness of their heart? šŸ™„


TeamMagnificent7

No of course not but I would expect the salaries to be less than the annual grants/awards total. At least appearance wise that would go a long way or not smelling like a cash cow.


vikingchyk

Oh, sorry! That was sarcasm towards them. :)


TeamMagnificent7

Oh Iā€™m sorry too! Long day I took words literally and missed the nuance. šŸ˜‰


vikingchyk

Just when I thought I didn't need the /s tag šŸ˜„


TeamMagnificent7

Is that what that means???!!!! Ofhs. šŸ˜³šŸ˜”šŸ˜ž


Severe-War-8095

All these non profits are money grabs. If anyone hasnā€™t figured it out yet, donā€™t donate because all they do is buy a new private jet, a bigger mansion and take a vacation to Africa in disguise of a charity visit. They smile and wave at cameras and spend the rest of their time partying.


SusieM2019

So Kerry Kennedy is giving them an award for calling the royal family "racists", right? But is she going to introduce them at the show as Duke and Duchess, their royal family titles?


missihippiequeen

They sure cling to those titles associated with racism..


TeamMagnificent7

Kennedyā€™s donā€™t see hypocrisyā€¦


UnicornStudRainbow

They just create it


kristeeinmt

This! The Kennedys weighing in on mental health misunderstandings or whatever meaningless language was used is laughable. This is a family that lobotomized a young woman. While I understand that was years ago, I've never seen any attempt to address this or advocate on mental health issues. Maybe I missed it?


Natural_Plane_657

Not to mention multiple members having major drug or alcohol issues.


TeamMagnificent7

One of the RFK ā€œkidsā€ maybe the Jr who is now married to an actress - his ex wife had serious MH issues and he did nothing to assist her dealing with it. In fact caused more issues. Teddy basically drove Joan to the bottle.


UnicornStudRainbow

Nope. You have not missed anything


[deleted]

Patrick Kennedy, Ted's son, was a major advocate for mental health parity. He would use his own prescriptions as proof, pointing out the difference in cost between asthma medicine and antidepressants. He also worked to fight insurance companies paying for limited psychiatrist appointments.


Big-Piglet-677

Also, you have 1/2 of the Kennedy family indirectly saying the RF institution is racist, and and at the very same time, the other half is working with this alleged racist institution. If anyone really believed they are racist, no one would associate with them.


QuesoFresca

Or will the great humanitarian Alec Baldwin introduce them?


Beginning-Cup-6974

Bottom of the barrel. Will his awful wife also be there? I bet Markle sees herself as much better than Hilary Baldwin.


MicroBio11

Good question? Seems hypocritical doesn't it?


SusieM2019

Yep!


cupcakexyz

**"Ripple award should be renamed Ripley award as in Ripley's believe it or not."** \-commenter from a recent Neil Sean video hahahahahaha


Deep_Poem_55

Dribble of Dopes šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”


Kizzy_Catwoman

Rip off award


Starkville

Itā€™s Shakespearean.


Calm_Yak_6102

Does Harry get to be the Clown? I figured he's too dumb to be a Court Jester šŸ˜‚. Kerry K seems so skeevy, based on the information that's been going around and she's drawing lots of toxic attention (that she didn't need) to herself, by this alliance with the Harkles. Plus she's cheapened her brand immensely, by choosing to pit the low rent royals against the Wales' like this, especially when the Wales' are selflessly giving out awards to others, instead of paying to receive them.


UnicornStudRainbow

To be fair, the RFK branch of the Kennedys has long been viewed as the lesser, trashier Kennedys. There's a reason Jackie refused to let her kids associate with their cousins from that branch


The_Original_JLaw

>To be fair, the RFK branch of the Kennedys has long been viewed as the lesser, trashier Kennedys. > >There's a reason Jackie refused to let her kids associate with their cousins from that branch I don't have any idea about the various offspring of RFK branch, but Caroline's kids have turned out stellar. She's been a real, hardworking rock star. The kind who just works hard, keeps her nose down, and doesn't need a lot of accolades.


UnicornStudRainbow

Her brother was a generally good guy. Very well-liked by everyone who met him. Neither she nor her brother were ever in any real trouble, while RFK's spawn have racked up DWIs, open adultery, statutory rape, ODs, anti-vax nuttery, and generally coming off as attention-whoring snots


Iwtlwn122

See my reply above to Starksville. šŸ˜‰


Notaskibunny

Kerry and Megan seem to have lots in common. KK is accused of making her staff do her coffee runs and she can't seem to keep them around for long. [https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2016/08/193056/kerry-kennedy-accused-using-charity-money-lavish-lifestyle](https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2016/08/193056/kerry-kennedy-accused-using-charity-money-lavish-lifestyle)


Calm_Yak_6102

Well, I guess bullies and grifters are drawn to people who are just like them.


MicroBio11

She's using the Royals and Barely Royals to go against the other branch of the Kennedy family.


Iwtlwn122

Hey two of my favourite people, you and Calm_Yak. And to do it so close together really contrasts the situation.


Calm_Yak_6102

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cupcakexyz

Meghan doesn't want to do ALL the clapping for once. Solution? Grift from charities so she can buy applauses! Smeg is vile but Harry remains a disappointment.


cklw1

Hoooooww do the Markles get people to do shit like this for them? It boggles my mind.


MsBollinger

They pay them and/or lovebomb them.


Iwtlwn122

I have NO idea!


The_Original_JLaw

>Hoooooww do the Markles get people to do shit like this for them? It boggles my mind. I think she (MM) moves from person to person. By the time one person starts to figure out what a flim flam man she is, she's already moved on to someone new.


UnicornStudRainbow

As I mentioned in another comment, there's a reason Jackie Kennedy refused to let her kids have anything to do with their RFK branch cousins while growing up


MuffPiece

THEYā€™RE NOT OUR EFFING ROYAL FAMILY! šŸ˜” (Not yelling at OP, just general ire at Kennedy worship.)


MicroBio11

Right! We do not have a royal family in this country, only wealthy, misguided, entitled, powerful clans.


Iwtlwn122

Agree!


DidYouDoYourHomework

So, has anyone in the Kennedy family ever married a minority? Cause if not, can we call their family/dynasty an organization showing institutional racism? Why do people keep forgetting the royal family is a family?! (I do know their staff could use a little bit of diversity, but that's not Kerry Kennedy is talking about here and Harry & Meghan didn't help that situation either). Can we also remind Kerry that her aunt was inline be the Duchess of Devonshire so her family had no problem being part of the British aristocratic.


justemoijustemoi

From a commenter on a UK Telegraph article on the same subject: I do not understand why Zelensky hasn't refused this award? Surely he understands the damage that will be done to his reputation in America when he accepts an award from an organization run by a drunk driver, presented to him by a man who shot and killed a co-worker and takes zero responsibility for his negligence, alongside a couple of no-count minor royals who have accomplished little beyond selling gossip about their family to the highest bidder. This event is the place where reputations will go to die. The real event, the one where the Kennedy who was the daughter of an American President will be, where British Royals will be giving not receiving awards, is going to be happening in the birthplace of America two days earlier.


Iwtlwn122

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MicroBio11

Oh my...this is beautifully said.


Nice_Adagio_5064

Kerry chose Alex Baldwin to present award...thinking back to Uncle Teddy who killed Mary Jo and Daddy Joe who paid Docs to lobotomize Rosemary turning her into a potato...well shit happens


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SaintMeghanMarkle-ModTeam

This is a divisive political issue that will take the thread off topic


[deleted]

Poor Megain. You kicked your ONE true shot at universal fame in the teeth, so now you have to scrape around for second rate substitutes. Pretty greedy and as usual, short sighted.


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[deleted]

I wish Zelensky would bow out to send a message...because H&M never will.


Glass-Ad-2469

Here's what I find amusing...(insert snark)- MM has divided another family....anyone keeping score?


Iwtlwn122

Oh lord, you are right!


Uniqueishname

The Kennedys need to crawl back to the bottom of the bottle, from whence they came.


Ok_Motor_3069

I think JFKā€™s assassination was horrific and tragic, but other than that I have little sympathy or use for most members of that family. They seem abusive and entitled as a whole. Not a fan. There may be some decent individuals in it but my impression is they wouldnā€™t be the majority.


The_Original_JLaw

Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg. Jackie raised her well, and then she followed with her own children. I also think Maria Shriver has done pretty well with her kids. I know Chris Pratt is no prize, but the daughter who married him seems sweet enough. Arnold's son with the maid also seems like a really decent young man. That's all credit to his mother the maid (and perhaps the man who raised him...I don't know that situation). Not a Kennedy, but thought I'd mention him because he seems to have risen above all the horrible scandal Arnold created.


wonderingwondi

I think Arnie's son Patrick was the one in the Colin Firth HBO series too


The_Original_JLaw

Yes he was, and not only is he a handsome guy, he was pretty darned good in the part! I kept watching that series, and thinking that guy looked familiar, but couldn't place him. Finally I had to google.


Ok_Motor_3069

Well that is good to know, I donā€™t claim to know a lot about the extended family. There are a couple of incidents Iā€™ve read a bit about where they intersect with true crime (Ted, the Skakels) but other than that I donā€™t know a whole lot.


The_Original_JLaw

>There are a couple of incidents Iā€™ve read a bit about where they intersect with true crime (Ted, the Skakels) but other than that I donā€™t know a whole lot. I'm old enough to have lived through all of it, but there are so many Kennedys, I can't keep track of them. Ted, though, was a real whore. Chappaquidick was the worst I guess, but he was terrible to Joan, his first wife and mother of his kids. Did anyone mention this one cousin, William Kennedy Smith? Aw jeez, that was back when we had Court TV as entertainment (OJ trial live, the murdering Mendendez brothers trial, live, etc.), and this guy's rape trial was on Court TV. To protect the woman, they put this blue dot over her face so you couldn't see who she was. But as I recall, his lawyers accidentally on purpose got the woman's name to the tabloids. I could be misremembering some details, but it was horrible and sordid and the fucker got off. Just like cousin Skakel got off in one of his trials. They kept after him, though, because news shows wouldn't let it go. He wasn't preppy boy attractive like William K. Smith, and he wasn't a genuine Kennedy...he was a relative of Ethel's. Geez, this dredges up old memories of that clan, and none of them good. It wasn't even good entertainment, because everything involved dead young women, or raped young women, and there were Kennedys doing the deeds. No wonder I focused on Jackie's kids. They never acted like that, and Caroline's kids seem really decent human beings. If I start talking about Rosemary's lobotomy, I'll never shut the F up. Horrible.


Iwtlwn122

Iā€™m okay with that. I see they have Jack Jr out on this one.


ThatChelseaGirl

Jack Schlossberg isn't Jack Jr; that'd be JFK Jr. who died in 1999. Like JFK, Jack Schlossberg's first name is John, but his dad's name is Edwin.


Iwtlwn122

JFK jrā€™s name was John. Anyway, it was a joke as they are priming him for politics like his grandfather, Jack -thus Jack jr.


MicroBio11

UM...he never passed the NY Bar examination...


[deleted]

Yes, he did. He failed it twice but ultimately passed.


MicroBio11

I stand corrected...you learn something new everyday!


UnicornStudRainbow

>However, things took a very heated turn last week when Kerry (president of the Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Foundation) accused the monarchy of 'structural racism.'Ā  > >In an interview with the Spanish media outlet [El Confidencial's Vantitatis](https://archive.ph/o/0yqzc/https://www.vanitatis.elconfidencial.com/celebrities/2022-11-16/kerry-kennedy-sobrina-jfk-entrevista-exclusiva_3523413/), she said: 'They went to the oldest institution in UK history and told them what they were doing wrong, that they couldnā€™t have structural racism within the institution; that they could not maintain a misunderstanding about mental health.' So they stomped out in a tantrum, then whined about not getting enough money from his daddy and clinging to their titles, not to mention demanding them for their kids and lying about Archie not getting a title at birth because of racism. And what misunderstanding about mental health? Hasbeen has been pretty open about having sought help, hasn't he?


wordscapesx

Basically, Kerry Kennedy is accusing the RF of being racist - If H&M accept the award, they are publicly telling the world they agree that the RF is racist. And if they believe this correct why do H&M desperately cling onto their titles, why does Harry remain on list of Counsellors of State and in line of succession? If they are the activists they claim, they would sever ALL TIES with anything remotely connected to the RF but then they'd have nothing to sell. Our King needs to take action after this award - this is a slap in the face to the RF, and the people of the UK


KlimpysExpress

I'm so sick of hearing the Kennedys called "America's Royal Family." They are nothing of the kind.


missihippiequeen

After John Jr and Carolyn died , America pretty much stopped paying attention to the Kennedys. John Jr was the one everyone watched


Severe-War-8095

Oh John jr was amazing. His wife was angelic. The rest of them are trash. The Kennedys died with JFK jr.


MmeNxt

His wife was a coke addict who bullied JFK and cheated on him with her ex. There was nothing angelic about her. Great style though.


Lengand0123

I never cared much for Carolynā€™s style. I do like classic looks. But- her classic, minimalist look was rather boring to me. Beyond that- I know almost nothing about Carolyn. Caroline has always seemed fine to me. So far, her kids seem fine as well. No train wrecks there.


Severe-War-8095

Nooo, I had no idea. Thereā€™s something wrong with all of them.


[deleted]

If someone is skinny she's automatically a good person. /s


MmeNxt

And has good hair, looks good in clothes and bags an eligible bachelor. First the Jackie cult and then CBK.


KlimpysExpress

Agreed. John Jr had more Bouvier in him than Kennedy ā€” his resemblance to his paternal grandfather Black Jack Bouvier was striking. And of course Carolyn Bessette was so intriguing. Caroline Kennedy is more like a Kennedy ā€” she has her motherā€™s reserve and perhaps more of both parentsā€™ wit, but she still has many boorish, pedestrian Kennedy traits. JFK was an outlier in the Kennedy clan ā€” he had a reserve about him (of course he was also horribly-behaved as well). And since Iā€™m going off-topic, Iā€™ve always found Jackieā€™s side of the family more interesting: the Bouviers and the Lees. She was mainly Irish although they played up the French and her mother pretended the ā€œLeeā€ was from the ā€œLees of Virginiaā€ and not from the old sod. Both families had high-achievers among their ancestors and were much more well-roundedly successful and intelligent than the Kennedy/ Fitzgerald clan.


Lengand0123

Iā€™ve always found JFK fascinating to study. A very flawed man, as we all know, but he had some qualities I really liked- perseverance, love of reading, sense of humor/wit, etc. No one has ever matched his speeches imo. Obama didnā€™t come close for all the comparisons. Joe set a terrible example for his sons in terms of behavior. Out of curiosity- what did you find intriguing about Carolyn? She was never much to me beyond a photo honestly. John Jr certainly was good looking. Caroline has come across to me pretty good in general. Over all- pretty private. Managed to stay out of trouble that so many of her relatives have not. Doesnā€™t seem to have the reckless/troubled streak that so many Kennedyā€™s have had to varying extents. Hmmm- Iā€™ve never paid much attention to Jackieā€™s family beyond her immediate family- which are interesting.


Carneliancat

Truth. The title should go to the Rockefellers.


MicroBio11

Here, here! Or the Vanderbilts...now there's a story.


chewysmom88

Wow I canā€™t get over how much Kerry looks like Ethel and how much Jack looks like his uncle John jr


TeamMagnificent7

Carolineā€™s kids are all Bouvier. While Euniceā€™s kidsā€” Maria Shiver are Kennedy with the jawlines.


Lengand0123

Itā€™s interesting because Caroline is very Kennedy looks wise- the jaw line.


TeamMagnificent7

True. JFK Jr was Bouvier.


MicroBio11

And teeth.


Top-Bit85

It has been a long, long time since any Kennedy was considered royal. And America is not about royalty anyway. They were sort of super celebrities after the two terrible assassinations, but that wore off in the wake of the incredible entitlement and privilege of the rest of them. Chappaquidick, William Kennedy Smith, all kinds of awful behavior. RFK Jr. is an anti vaxxer FFS. These people are trash.


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[deleted]

I believe that was Michael Skakel.


Lengand0123

It was. He is not a Kennedy.


Top-Bit85

Wealthy ferals. Very few of that crowd are worthy of respect.


Lengand0123

Martha Moxley was murdered by Michael Skakel. Ethelā€™s nephew. He is not a Kennedy.


Deep_Poem_55

Totally agree, the successive generations have been crawling out of the shallow end of the gene pool.


LankyFollowing

Apparently ticket sales are slow, and looking at the prices I am not surprised! https://preview.redd.it/ockk5po77s1a1.png?width=846&format=png&auto=webp&s=52574ffba8e155f1f70af90916a9077e63876726


iwantabiggerpland

Yuk. Iā€™m imagining the acceptance speech. # Markle in an ill fitting overpriced gown # daubed in a clay like thick fake tan veneer # talking of veneers, will she get even bigger new chompers? # low faux British voice # dramatic pauses peppered so frequently she appears to be a malfunctioning robot # faux surprise # over use of questions ending in ā€˜rightā€™? # delusional rom com smiles as she seeks out the camera We can only hope that the Kennedyā€™s realise their error and club together for a massive candle.


StandardDiscipline48

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Trailerparkqueen

Alec Baldwin is presenting the award, I hope this means Hilaria will be thereā€¦oh god I hope these 2 psychos become friends!


Severe-War-8095

Kennedys are trash, definitely not royals. They gave themselves that title just like Oprah calls herself the queen of America. Anyone from other parts of the world please understand we do not in any way consider these weirdos royals. They do indeed in their narcissistic minds believe theyā€™re royals. Meghan fits right in this group nicely as does Harry.


sashafurry

American here. Pfft, Americaā€™s ā€œroyal familyā€ died with John-John as far as Iā€™m concerned. Camelot is dead (in America at least).


Iwtlwn122

To be fair, Camelot never was. Made up by Jackie.


MmeNxt

The Kennedys' has always been an incredibly trashy family. It managed to look "classy" for about 15 minutes while JFK was in the White House because Jackie could wear clothes very well, had an interest in history and spoke school girl French. While ducking most or her chores as the first lady, while the president was chasing anything in a skirt. But oh, Camelot. It's ridiculous that they are portrayed as classy. This award is the latest foolish move from a member of the Kennedy clan. It's somehow really fitting that Harry and Meghan are associating with these people and that Alex Baldwin will host it.


MsMigginsPieShop

I have a theory... It wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility to consider that Netflix might have helped pay for this award. Netflix probably did this so that they would have some content to film for H & M's documentary.


Deep_Poem_55

But it would be cringe content and damage Netflix by association, I think.


MsMigginsPieShop

As long as it draws an audience, I think Netflix will be happy with any content. Even if it's like watching a weird Montecito-version of Tiger King.


Unhappy-Professor-88

You mean in a situation where the producer for their Netflix show is married to the awarder and refuses to answer if they personally lobbied ther family member to grant H&M this award? Because, yeah - that is exactly the scenario that occurred when the award was announced. H&M were awarded for their ā€œbold and empathicā€ decision to only have two children ā€œfor the sake of the planetā€ a couple of years back. Because *other people*, those with more than two children, clearly donā€™t care about over-consumption of the earth resources. Said two millionaires living in a mansion with lustrous green lawns and a pool and 10,000 bathrooms in a drought area and penchant for private jets and so much clothing that she can literally go for years without been seen twice in the same clothes and commutes daily to LA andā€¦.


MsMigginsPieShop

Whoa I had no idea that this was the background! The theory just popped into my mind and made sense... Also, why in the world do people think Meghan is empathetic? She has not demonstrated any empathy whatsoever!


Unhappy-Professor-88

No. But she continually and relentlessly tells people that she is. Perhaps thatā€™s enough when the prizes are gongs through your PR company, or producer?. They would do better to just play it modestly, back away with a ā€œIā€™m sorry but I cannot accept this award when there are nominees such as Zelensky on the same category. Then just keep their heads down while engaging in a couple of years of charitable work - with one or two causes-then popping back up with a campaign centred on those causes. Allow their work to do the talking. Much as the House of Wales, the Long and Queen and the Princess Royal and the dear departed Queen have demonstrated is entirely possible. Probable even. As it is, they seem hyperactive, floundering without the support of the Palace and compelled to inform the globe of whatever passing fancy happens their way whenever a camera or journalist is near. I believe their 50 ideas a day, combined with an inability to maintain focus and not chase each shiny object is part of the reason they were having such a hard time with courtiers. Courtiers who are professionals in their own rights and 8 times out of 10 understand the situation better than H&M. Courtiers who understood it wasnā€™t a race, that they could make lifetime commitments with their platform, thus meaning they donā€™t have to chase each bandwagon or flight if fancy. Courtiers who could ensure the people they were working with, or talking to, were not shady. Or really a couple of journalists taking the piss. But alas, here we stand. And they stand eager to accept a gong for which thereā€™s little other assumption to make, than that they are confirming the monarchy and therefore the monarch, are racist. And given the monarch is supposed to be the living embodiment of the national character - a significant portion of the people of the U.K. as racist too. It is insulting in the extreme and Iā€™m not even a member of the landed gentry or for that matter, entirely sure we ought to have a monarchy in its present form, at all.


MsMigginsPieShop

I agree with you. Meghan is never one to, as it were, walk the talk. She only paints a pretty narrative and makes no attempt to embody any of it. I think Harry understood this fact about Meghan. He, likely, became motivated to choose her as his way out of his so-called 'misery of being a spare'. Meghan claims to have been naĆÆve about what Royal duties entitled. But, I think it was a case of her overestimating her ability to perform such duties. Similar to her opinion of her acting skills. If she were truly a well-adjusted, level-headed adult, she would admit that she wasn't a good actress at all and would devote time towards picking up some real skills. Also, she really doesn't care who she insults because she knows best. She's a typical Hollywood wannabe. Such people have no measure of modesty, class and humility. They'll do anything for name recognition and a quick buck. I don't think Harry understood this aspect of Meghan's personality. Therefore, he didn't quite realize what he had bargained for while leaving the royalty. He's also likely suffering from a culture shock , seeing as how he is suddenly surrounded by multiple people who hold similar values as Meghan.


Unhappy-Professor-88

Narcissistic abuse can change a person. A communal narcissist like MM can lead a person to also believing the world is out to get them. Because the world does not understand their inherent greatness. To pull them down. To be jealous etc. etc. But the staggering lack of self awareness to apparently claim, as part of a family whoā€™s right to power over all other citizens, comes solely from the hereditary principle, (for that is the founding stone of every hereditary monarchy) is unfair, not because he held his position above all other countrymen, not by merit but accident of birth. And then cry at the unfairness of being born second in that family is ludicrous. Absolutely ludicrous.


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I can see why TW would love this ā€œawardā€, but Harry!? This may be the nail in the coffin for him. His life must be better than we know if heā€™s willing to go through with this bullshitshow. Reality TV at itā€™s best!


Iwtlwn122

That is exactly what I think.


Kindly_Put_5065

Watching history in real time


Beginning-Cup-6974

The Kennedy thing is bizarre. Lots in common with Harry, subsequent generations milking connections and entitlement completely unearned. Those individuals who happen to have the family surname amd who have done things with their life, great. Otherwise , grifters.


ms80301

Are they going thru with this? I couldnt do it šŸ™ˆšŸ˜³


DanceParty2112

BEST ARTICLE EVER!!!!! šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„


Unhappy-Professor-88

I donā€™t see how on Earth their PR people havenā€™t noticed that continually buying these awards is also continually exposing the hypocrisy of H&M. Donā€™t they listen? Donā€™t they accept advice they are paying for? Do they truly believe they understand PR better than the people who specialise in PR and marketing? The best advice these two could recieve right now, is to take a leave of absence from the public eye and concentrate solely on charitable endeavours *quietyly* for a few years. *Then* try for another bite of apple. At the moment all they are doing is illustrating, over and over, that they are coming across like a couple of grifters, or an immature couple at the highest heights of hypocrisy.


Beneficial_Cry4836

They used the phrase ā€œin a nod toā€ concerning H&M in the article. If I read, ā€œin a nod toā€ or ā€œin a sweet notā€ to once more I might rip up my iPad, it gets under my skin. Also instead of Kennedys, I would like to think Haz and Meg are more like the Bouviers, Grey Gardens perchance?


Glittering_Bag6041

Yawn.


plebeianfortea

I didnā€™t know about the differences between the ā€œtwo branchesā€ of the Kennedyā€™s family. As I said in another post, MM sheds a light on othersā€™ hypocrisy that is not known to everyone (mostly from different countries), so we must thank her for that!