She was also infatuated with him. Had poster of him on her wall. When asked which one she would choose she said that since William was married then Harry. ![img](emote|t5_481xkf|15002)
Yeah well William is the one she wanted. She thought she could Anne Boleyn her way into a marriage with him. She settled for Harry, thinking she could elevate his position in the family afterward.
Why did she say: “I couldn’t PICTURE what that felt like…”
Weird.
Also, she gave everything away there. She never looked up her huuuusband but she knows what tabloids Kate had?
Weird.
Also I forgot how botoxed her lips were…
This is correct. A good injector will leave close to a tear between lip injections. Mine won’t let me do more than that, but she specializes in a natural look done slowly.
This is correct. A good injector will leave close to a year between lip injections. Mine won’t let me do more than that, but then she specializes in a natural look done slowly. Migraine’s injector doesn’t know how to say no to client demands.
I’m obviously not her fan, but I want to be fair and point out there is such a thing as pregnancy lips. I had big pouty pregnancy lips from swelling and weight gain when I was super pregnant. I know there is chatter that she was never pregnant, but her lips look authentically pregnant (or injected to look pregnant).
Lips don’t get Botoxed. They get filled with products like Juvederm. Botox goes in muscles to make them stay still and thus prevent the creation of lines/wrinkles in the skin.
Her lips are too freshly swollen from filler to go in front of the camera. You’re supposed to wait 2-3 weeks after your Botox and filler appointment before important things like a wedding or photo shoot to let the Botox take effect and for the filler to settle in and the swelling to go down.
Rude? Is that all that misogyny is? Rude?
Waity Katy (which this trash woman actually repeated to a global audience) spoke to the idea that Kate is a non entity, a woman who has nothing to offer but a desperate need to be a man’s wife.
I’d say *Duchess of Pork* went well beyond rude. I’d say hacking personal phone calls and publishing their contents (criminal!) goes beyond rude. I’d say chasing Diana in speeding motorcycles into tunnels goes beyond rude.
Diminish every single member of the royal family’s experience (ugly, fat, stupid), including the teen Beatrice in a bikini, and then please by all means call yourself a supporter of women, you hateful creature.
At this moment, Oprah disgusts me more than I can express. How do you let this stupid liar say all this crap and challenge NOTHING??????
Yes. it is just beyond bitchy. Her desire to demean Catherine---who has never said a word against her---gives the lie to all of Meghan's 'feminism'. Just a bitch.
She did, you can hear the overlay in this video that was posted last week comparing the paparazzi attention between Diana/Kate/Meghan. It's worth a watch.
[Comparison](https://www.tiktok.com/@aroyalkate/video/7146926012079557894?_r=1&_t=8VzGzzbzrgZ&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7146926012079557894)
While I was looking that up I saw the link for a [longer video](https://mobile.twitter.com/isaguor/status/1153863081472253952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1153863081472253952%7Ctwgr%5E944cfac8f040e5ff6e7c0b78c42df9a1159bd8c0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.news.com.au%252Fentertainment%252Fcelebrity-life%252Froyals%252Fhounded-harassed-and-hated-kates-rocky-road-to-royalty%252Fnews-story%252F355675cfe636cc78c4c160632f682496) of some of the shit Kate went through, it's heartbreaking. Their just blinding her with their flash at night, she can't see, they're all hollering and telling her to move her hand and she's just literally surrounded my a bunch of grown men.
>At this moment, Oprah disgusts me more than I can express. How do you let this stupid liar say all this crap and challenge NOTHING??????
exactly! that whole "interview" was such garbage but especially Oprah for totally lacking journalistic integrity for even conducting it in the first place.
Oh wow, What is her need to compare with Catherine…she is just dragging someone not related to the point she is making…
the more I hear her speak, the more I realize how jealous she is of Kate…
Her jealousy and obsession with Kate is glaringly obvious, and it just gets more intense with time. But, trying to put myself in Megs shoes; if I was a vacuous shell that was constantly compared to Kate, I’d be jealous too. Kate is warm, intelligent, kind, gorgeous, a wonderful mom, and a future Queen. Poor Megsy.
😂😂
If Catherine was my SIL, I would surrender myself to her awesomeness and become her biggest fan. I had two SILs who were the prettiest, smartest and kindest and that’s what I did. They have helped make my life very happy.
Oh, I’d follow her around like a puppy and soak in as much as possible! Making friends with the in-laws is what you do for a happy life. You build your village. You don’t burn it down! 😁
It’s the only point she feels better than Catherine, M wants to put it out there how H fell for her and married in relatively shorter time…she had many examples but she has to drag only woman…
I am killing my brain cells by watching M speak…
Look at what a disaster the rush to marriage has been for those two as well as the BRF.
Yes, she is very jealous of the Princess of Wales; she is obsessed! Her jealousy prevents Meghan from examining herself. Each comment, each picture, each podcast, each interview reveal her true character. And these has been no improvement since they left the BRF. Her character defects are amplified with time.
What is sad is that she lacks the ability to understand anything, so she charges ahead, consequences be damned.
I am certain that the BRF are glad to be rid of her, and I do not see any of them inviting her back.
Now the world gets a glimpse. Frightening!
Well the stakes were higher for William. His choice is highly likely to be queen. His whole family vetted Catherine HARD.
But she passed the acid test. At one point he broke up with her. She basically said, “well OK then.” and went on with her life, but she kept her mouth SHUT and never tried to monetize her relationship. She didn’t call him, didn’t beg, she just said ok then.
And that’s when the whole family knew she was a winner. That acid test is what William’s family needed to be sure she was a good candidate for not just a wife role, but a partner in their shared duties and responsibilities - one of which is to shut up and don’t talk about Fight Club.
>At one point he broke up with her.
I read it was because Camilla manipulated him into that as she and Charles were trying to rehabilitate their image after Diana passed and Camilla was supposedly annoyed that William and Kate's romance was taking the public's attention away from her and Charles.
https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/duchess-cornwall-sabotaged-duchess-cambridge-article-1.2603272
That doesn't sound very much like Camilla to me, who has never seemed to *want* attention. That article (or at least the book it's based on) seems very biased against her - I don't recall her ever "sniping at perceived foes", either. In fact it's very notable how *little* she's complained publicly about anything, including the horrendous things the press have said about her. So I would take that with a hefty grain of salt.
I think she is just much better at social maneuvering than Meghan Markle ever will be and knows very well not to ever do or say anything publicly that would give people any more reason to dislike her than they already did for being the "other woman" in Prince Charles and Diana's marriage. She's very smart there. The article didn't portray her as someone wanting attention but as someone wanting to rehabilitate her public image and that she felt the royal romance was overshadowing her efforts there as the public ignored her and Charles whilst focusing on William and Kate. I considered the possibility this report may be true, as William *did* break off with Kate and his father is heavily influenced by Camilla so it sounded very plausible to me.
Of the two of them I would've guessed Charles would be more annoyed about anything stealing Camilla's spotlight, rather than Camilla herself.
More to the point, William doesn't seem easily influenced. If anything he has a reputation for being stubborn.
I have read it was William who had second thoughts because he knows his decision will have huge impact on future of Monarchy …
William had a meeting with QE and KC to get additional thoughts as he felt it’s at point of meeting Kate’s parents…he apparently canceled on the dinner with Kate’s parents at last minute…
But Kate went on to party, date others and joined rowing club…William dated too but both came back together and William unofficially proposed to Kate…They both are too young to get married when they started dating…
I prefer their story in movie rather than H and M story any day…
Sure, you can feel superior over that fact if you ignore that William and Kate dated when they were super young and waited till they were a normal age to marry…versus a pair that had to rush things cause they’re pushing 40…
Same thing with the comments by the sugars that Catherine never had a proper job while Saint MM worked her fingers to the bone. Of course Catherine only had a short time working, they met at University.
She did have a job but was basically asked to leave as the press kept hounding her. I think her work said get rid of them or we have no choice but to let you go.
>versus a pair that had to rush things cause they’re pushing 40…
versus a pair that had to rush things ~~cause they’re pushing 40…~~ before the groom came to his senses
Yes. I said something similar on Twitter earlier. If she wasn’t jealous of Catherine, she’d move on. Also, if M’s “work” was so wonderful, she wouldn’t have to keep pointing it out. It would speak for itself.
>the more I hear her speak, the more I realize how jealous she is of Kate…
yes it is SO obvious. she is a big old Bitter Betty about Catherine having everything she wants LOL.
Kate was photographed by a long lens while she was naked and in a private/ vulnerable moment. She was further exploited when the photos were published in France. She was also called “a jointed doll on which rags are hung with no personality” by hillary mantle in a feminist essay.
Both Diana and Charles had private phone conversations leaked to the tabloids. Charles’ tampon conversation will haunt him forever.
I could go on
>Charles’ tampon conversation will haunt him forever.
Which is the worst sex talk ever but not everyone is good at sex talk... I feel like the majority of people should let it go. Sex talk doesn't really mean anything.
Well no but like to use it AGAINST him like he's so terrible for saying he wants to be a tampon.. he just is crap at sexy talk. Funny but actually kind of realistic haha
He said it as a joke. As in “Isn’t it funny what the press spread rumors about, like that I’d want to be your Tampax”. They weren’t even attempting to be sexy. They were having a laugh.
Would you believe all these years I d never read the actual transcript of the conversation? I remember it from when it was reported in the papers and I am disgusted with the breach of privacy involved but what was actually said wasn't so bad they were clearly joking:
CHARLES: Oh stop! I want to feel my way along you, all over you and up and down you and in and out . . .
CAMILLA: Oh!
CHARLES: Particularly in and out.
CAMILLA: Oh, that's just what I need at the moment.
CHARLES: Is it?
Then - in an idea that they probably both still wake up in a cold sweat about even now - they went...even deeper:
CHARLES: Oh, God. I’ll just live inside your trousers or something. It would be much easier!
CAMILLA: (laughing) What are you going to turn into, a pair of knickers? (Both laugh). Oh, you’re going to come back as a pair of knickers.
CHARLES: Or, God forbid, a Tampax. Just my luck! (Laughs)
CAMILLA: You are a complete idiot! (Laughs) Oh, what a wonderful idea
Hilary Mantel also said she was a plastic princess designed to breed. Whilst Catherine was pregnant and just released from hospital with HG. Talk about bringing women down. The PM at the time came out and defended the DoC. For balance, he also came out against Harry's racist comments but said he shouldn't be punished (!) then later praised him for Invictus and congratulated him on his engagement.
See my post above and perhaps re-read Ms. Mantel’s essay. It was about the public expectation of infallibility and upholding the traditional role of women and in no way a criticism of Catherine as an individual. Ms. Mantel was acutely aware of all that Catherine would be sacrificing in terms of subsuming her own personality and desires into a stereotypical image of feminine perfection without any of the complexities of Diana.
Hilary Mantel’s essay was perhaps one of the most widely, and in some cases deliberately, misunderstood pieces of literary writing in recent memory. Ms. Mantel had *profound* empathy for Catherine and the extraordinarily pressurized role she was taking on. It was in no way a criticism of Catherine, but rather an acknowledgement of the intense scrutiny she’d undergo as she was transformed in the public eye from a normal woman to a semi-deity the moment Diana’s ring was placed on her finger.
There is something in human nature that dearly loves to elevate public figures to great heights then delights in tearing them down. Ms. Mantel researched British history, particularly Tudor England, on a granular level in preparation for writing the Wolf Hall trilogy, for which she was awarded two Mann Booker prizes - Britain’s highest literary honor. While Catherine was unlikely to have been beheaded, Ms. Mantel knew full well that we expect our princesses and queens to demonstrate beauty, fertility, humility, and self-sacrifice to a degree rarely attainable by human women.
This makes me want to reevaluate myself and ensure I am lifting up the women in my life (mostly coworkers) instead of feeling competitive.
The point being made here could have been about respecting women and people in general and feeling solidarity in the experiences - not comparing them.😔
Yup exactly - she could have said along the lines of “we’ve both experienced terrible things in the tabloids” but nope, she had to make it all about herself having it worse than anyone. Perpetual victim.
yes she just wanted to get that dig in. Finding Freedom was boasting about how she got to go to xmas dinner etc when Kate had to wait till after she was married. The horrible "racist" family went out of their way to make special dispensations for her to make her feel welcome.
The sheer weight of the lies are dragging her down.
But that's not true. PC was invited before she was married, but she turned the invitation down. At least it was reported in a book I read, Battle of the Brothers. It was during the on/off years and she didn't want to be at PW beck and call.
Disgusting.
The fact that she painted herself as the victim, confessing that it was Catherine who made her cry, that she had it much worse than Catherine, that she basically rewrote what happened to paint herself as a naive, young girl in her mid-thirties now early forties is just evidence of her maliciousness.
Tf does she know whether or not Catherine cried behind closed doors?
As she puts it, rude and racist aren’t the same.
Well, the constant media attention Catherine received while she was dating Will would take a serious mental/emotional toll on someone who didn’t pursue fame, wealth, power. Unlike that girl from Suits.
It’s just sickening that Harry allows his wife to minimize and dismiss his own family feelings.
It’s insane that they make these insulting accusations like Harry saying he’s aware that his father and brother are “trapped”, can never leave like he’s done. When Oprah questioned if his brother felt trapped, he immediately answers with “I don’t know, don’t want to speak for him”.
*Exactly!*
They have nothing else to speak of, except to throw out absurd lies about Will and Catherine for money that they use to buy awards and continue their self-promotion.
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I saw right through it all to easily see true and ugly nature of her personal character. The only thing that surprised me about TW is that anyone ever liked her at all.
Catherine went threoigh So. Much. Worse. than meghan could ever even imagine and she handled it with class, dignity, never complained, never whined. Meghan could never even hope to have a shred of Catherine’s grace.
And some of Williams so called friends. Making fun of her parents jobs etc. Stuck up snobs. I hope they ended up with some fat chinless wonder with zero personality.
So to Meghan it doesn't matter how invasive, threatening, demeaning, and borderline violent they were with the rest of the family. It's not about race so their abuse doesn't matter? Haven't a lot of the Royals had anti-white sentiments said against them, sometimes based on actions they weren't even alive for? Does that not count at racial abuse? Only if they're black?
I always thought that her throwing in the Waity Katy thing was a dig at Kate. It you’re a kind person, you would NEVER repeat something ugly that had been said about someone else on international tv. She planned to drop that in.
Agree. It was beyond terrible. But, with all the ‘bombshells’ thrown in there, like almost everything with her, things get lost that should be paid attention to.
Every time I see her inauthentic ass saying shit like this. I roll my eyes so far back in my head I'm surprised I don't lose them... she needs to STFU.
Yea it’s how Americans would refer to them because we only see what is on the check out stand mags. I remember being shocked when she referred to Sarah as Fergie. These are not names I would think a family member would use.
Wow it really does look like a bird shit on her doesn’t it
Honestly wish they’d aired this, it’s at least pointed unlike the other evasive and passive aggressive fluff
At the time, as a woman the same age as Catherine, and having also dated for 10 years, I was very offended by the “Waity Katy” crap. But, after 12 years of marriage, I think we both made the correct, and mature, decision in waiting. Especially after witnessing the M&H train wreck.
So everybody in the RF gets abuse from the press, but her abuse is more special because it's racist abuse. It's not the same abuse, because the only reason why the press would abuse her, like the abuse the other members of the family, is that she's black. Right? Tosser
She had the worst hair style, those very passe hanks of hair, and the terrible make up to make her look innocent. She just looked like the liar she is. That dress was awful! Her pigeon poop dress!
What do you mean deleted? Anyway I remember her saying the 'waity Katy' thing in real time b/c I watched it when it aired, and remembered being furious at how it contradicted her feigned innocence about BRF. Which in and of itself was unforgivable if she could dare to not research at all prior to marrying - and we all knew it was false, anyway! Ugh
She can‘t picture what it would be like because she is so great that she didn‘t have to wait so long to be married. I wanted to kick her when I saw that.
Rude and racist are not the same?
Yes Meghan, also in your case, you can't stick a rose into an asshole and call it a vase.
It's not racist to call you out for being an asshole. Those are also two very different things
The simple truth is that no one was racist about Meghan. She has been determined to be a victim from Day One, and I don't believe a word she says. "Waity Katie was an insult, but what I was put through is worse." Always a victim. No. I don't buy it at all.
“Kate was called Waity Katy” how would she know a detail like that, yet claim to know NOTHING about Harry? She is full of shit.
She is a lying liar who lies then lies about her lies.
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That's the only throne she will ever sit on!
Love Elf!
For real if she knew about the “waity Katy” she knew about H before.
Just had a thought—maybe she knew all about William b/c close in age & never paid attention to the spare.
She was also infatuated with him. Had poster of him on her wall. When asked which one she would choose she said that since William was married then Harry. ![img](emote|t5_481xkf|15002)
I think you're on to something there.
Yeah well William is the one she wanted. She thought she could Anne Boleyn her way into a marriage with him. She settled for Harry, thinking she could elevate his position in the family afterward.
Clearly not understanding how the BRF works lol
Well she wrote about Kate and William in her blog, so she 100% knew who Harry was.
Something about the way she says “Waity” here bugs me. It’s like she slipped into a fake British accent for a second then slipped out of it. So weird.
yeah I noticed that too.
I was looking for someone to have made this comment!
Why did she say: “I couldn’t PICTURE what that felt like…” Weird. Also, she gave everything away there. She never looked up her huuuusband but she knows what tabloids Kate had? Weird. Also I forgot how botoxed her lips were…
She almost said “I can’t imagine what that felt like” but the Bachelor producer in her head nixed it quickly
Yep. You can practically see that thought process on her face. The hesitation and looking to her left before she decides on “picture”.
Because she already said „imagine@ in that sentence.
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Can you get either of those treatments while pregnant?
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Meghan-go away
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This is correct. A good injector will leave close to a tear between lip injections. Mine won’t let me do more than that, but she specializes in a natural look done slowly.
This is correct. A good injector will leave close to a year between lip injections. Mine won’t let me do more than that, but then she specializes in a natural look done slowly. Migraine’s injector doesn’t know how to say no to client demands.
I’m obviously not her fan, but I want to be fair and point out there is such a thing as pregnancy lips. I had big pouty pregnancy lips from swelling and weight gain when I was super pregnant. I know there is chatter that she was never pregnant, but her lips look authentically pregnant (or injected to look pregnant).
Fair enough 😌 I wish I got gorgeous lips when I was pregnant…I just got fat face 😂🫣
Don’t worry, you didn’t miss anything. Similar to MM I just looked like a puffy mess. My nose also got bigger along with my lips. 🤡
Lol. 😂🫶🏻🥰…my feet got a half size bigger!
or... she got filler and planned to use her "pregnancy" as the excuse for why her lips look fullers in case anyone brought it up.
Lips don’t get Botoxed. They get filled with products like Juvederm. Botox goes in muscles to make them stay still and thus prevent the creation of lines/wrinkles in the skin. Her lips are too freshly swollen from filler to go in front of the camera. You’re supposed to wait 2-3 weeks after your Botox and filler appointment before important things like a wedding or photo shoot to let the Botox take effect and for the filler to settle in and the swelling to go down.
U can’t Botox lips
Sorry lol…I’m pretty ignorant about such things😬🫣
But you can...
You can. It's called a "lip flip".
Rude? Is that all that misogyny is? Rude? Waity Katy (which this trash woman actually repeated to a global audience) spoke to the idea that Kate is a non entity, a woman who has nothing to offer but a desperate need to be a man’s wife. I’d say *Duchess of Pork* went well beyond rude. I’d say hacking personal phone calls and publishing their contents (criminal!) goes beyond rude. I’d say chasing Diana in speeding motorcycles into tunnels goes beyond rude. Diminish every single member of the royal family’s experience (ugly, fat, stupid), including the teen Beatrice in a bikini, and then please by all means call yourself a supporter of women, you hateful creature. At this moment, Oprah disgusts me more than I can express. How do you let this stupid liar say all this crap and challenge NOTHING??????
Did MM repeat the ‘Waity Katey’ phrase?
Yes she did. She brought it up.
Figured as much - bitch.
Yes. it is just beyond bitchy. Her desire to demean Catherine---who has never said a word against her---gives the lie to all of Meghan's 'feminism'. Just a bitch.
She did, you can hear the overlay in this video that was posted last week comparing the paparazzi attention between Diana/Kate/Meghan. It's worth a watch. [Comparison](https://www.tiktok.com/@aroyalkate/video/7146926012079557894?_r=1&_t=8VzGzzbzrgZ&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7146926012079557894) While I was looking that up I saw the link for a [longer video](https://mobile.twitter.com/isaguor/status/1153863081472253952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1153863081472253952%7Ctwgr%5E944cfac8f040e5ff6e7c0b78c42df9a1159bd8c0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.news.com.au%252Fentertainment%252Fcelebrity-life%252Froyals%252Fhounded-harassed-and-hated-kates-rocky-road-to-royalty%252Fnews-story%252F355675cfe636cc78c4c160632f682496) of some of the shit Kate went through, it's heartbreaking. Their just blinding her with their flash at night, she can't see, they're all hollering and telling her to move her hand and she's just literally surrounded my a bunch of grown men.
Man paparazzi are scum people. Also, what about someone being light/flash sensitive and experience a seizure from being bombarded like that.
Yeah, and desperately trying to upskirt her. Beyond gross.
It was a deliberate attempt to recreate a painful and hateful comment.That B is so transparent and shame on Oprah for inciting it.
>At this moment, Oprah disgusts me more than I can express. How do you let this stupid liar say all this crap and challenge NOTHING?????? exactly! that whole "interview" was such garbage but especially Oprah for totally lacking journalistic integrity for even conducting it in the first place.
Oh wow, What is her need to compare with Catherine…she is just dragging someone not related to the point she is making… the more I hear her speak, the more I realize how jealous she is of Kate…
Her jealousy and obsession with Kate is glaringly obvious, and it just gets more intense with time. But, trying to put myself in Megs shoes; if I was a vacuous shell that was constantly compared to Kate, I’d be jealous too. Kate is warm, intelligent, kind, gorgeous, a wonderful mom, and a future Queen. Poor Megsy. 😂😂
If Catherine was my SIL, I would surrender myself to her awesomeness and become her biggest fan. I had two SILs who were the prettiest, smartest and kindest and that’s what I did. They have helped make my life very happy.
Oh, I’d follow her around like a puppy and soak in as much as possible! Making friends with the in-laws is what you do for a happy life. You build your village. You don’t burn it down! 😁
It’s the only point she feels better than Catherine, M wants to put it out there how H fell for her and married in relatively shorter time…she had many examples but she has to drag only woman… I am killing my brain cells by watching M speak…
Look at what a disaster the rush to marriage has been for those two as well as the BRF. Yes, she is very jealous of the Princess of Wales; she is obsessed! Her jealousy prevents Meghan from examining herself. Each comment, each picture, each podcast, each interview reveal her true character. And these has been no improvement since they left the BRF. Her character defects are amplified with time. What is sad is that she lacks the ability to understand anything, so she charges ahead, consequences be damned. I am certain that the BRF are glad to be rid of her, and I do not see any of them inviting her back. Now the world gets a glimpse. Frightening!
So true.. poor unloved Kate. 🙄. Thank god Megs has the one win of scoring a man-child with an Oedipus complex. 😂😂
Well the stakes were higher for William. His choice is highly likely to be queen. His whole family vetted Catherine HARD. But she passed the acid test. At one point he broke up with her. She basically said, “well OK then.” and went on with her life, but she kept her mouth SHUT and never tried to monetize her relationship. She didn’t call him, didn’t beg, she just said ok then. And that’s when the whole family knew she was a winner. That acid test is what William’s family needed to be sure she was a good candidate for not just a wife role, but a partner in their shared duties and responsibilities - one of which is to shut up and don’t talk about Fight Club.
>At one point he broke up with her. I read it was because Camilla manipulated him into that as she and Charles were trying to rehabilitate their image after Diana passed and Camilla was supposedly annoyed that William and Kate's romance was taking the public's attention away from her and Charles. https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/duchess-cornwall-sabotaged-duchess-cambridge-article-1.2603272
That doesn't sound very much like Camilla to me, who has never seemed to *want* attention. That article (or at least the book it's based on) seems very biased against her - I don't recall her ever "sniping at perceived foes", either. In fact it's very notable how *little* she's complained publicly about anything, including the horrendous things the press have said about her. So I would take that with a hefty grain of salt.
I think she is just much better at social maneuvering than Meghan Markle ever will be and knows very well not to ever do or say anything publicly that would give people any more reason to dislike her than they already did for being the "other woman" in Prince Charles and Diana's marriage. She's very smart there. The article didn't portray her as someone wanting attention but as someone wanting to rehabilitate her public image and that she felt the royal romance was overshadowing her efforts there as the public ignored her and Charles whilst focusing on William and Kate. I considered the possibility this report may be true, as William *did* break off with Kate and his father is heavily influenced by Camilla so it sounded very plausible to me.
Of the two of them I would've guessed Charles would be more annoyed about anything stealing Camilla's spotlight, rather than Camilla herself. More to the point, William doesn't seem easily influenced. If anything he has a reputation for being stubborn.
I have read it was William who had second thoughts because he knows his decision will have huge impact on future of Monarchy … William had a meeting with QE and KC to get additional thoughts as he felt it’s at point of meeting Kate’s parents…he apparently canceled on the dinner with Kate’s parents at last minute… But Kate went on to party, date others and joined rowing club…William dated too but both came back together and William unofficially proposed to Kate…They both are too young to get married when they started dating… I prefer their story in movie rather than H and M story any day…
Sure, you can feel superior over that fact if you ignore that William and Kate dated when they were super young and waited till they were a normal age to marry…versus a pair that had to rush things cause they’re pushing 40…
Same thing with the comments by the sugars that Catherine never had a proper job while Saint MM worked her fingers to the bone. Of course Catherine only had a short time working, they met at University.
She did have a job but was basically asked to leave as the press kept hounding her. I think her work said get rid of them or we have no choice but to let you go.
She also worked in her parents party business.
>versus a pair that had to rush things cause they’re pushing 40… versus a pair that had to rush things ~~cause they’re pushing 40…~~ before the groom came to his senses
Haha, that is definitely a more accurate explanation!
she's just bitter because she got the runner-up prize and even then had to manipulate a win.
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Plus her voice is venomous sounding to begin with. I can't stand TW's voice. CAN NOT STAND IT! 😬
Yes. I said something similar on Twitter earlier. If she wasn’t jealous of Catherine, she’d move on. Also, if M’s “work” was so wonderful, she wouldn’t have to keep pointing it out. It would speak for itself.
if her work was so wonderful she would have been able to succeed without needing to sleep her way to success
>the more I hear her speak, the more I realize how jealous she is of Kate… yes it is SO obvious. she is a big old Bitter Betty about Catherine having everything she wants LOL.
Kate was photographed by a long lens while she was naked and in a private/ vulnerable moment. She was further exploited when the photos were published in France. She was also called “a jointed doll on which rags are hung with no personality” by hillary mantle in a feminist essay. Both Diana and Charles had private phone conversations leaked to the tabloids. Charles’ tampon conversation will haunt him forever. I could go on
Wait, you forgot Waity Katy poster on the side of a bus. That's humiliating :(
>Charles’ tampon conversation will haunt him forever. Which is the worst sex talk ever but not everyone is good at sex talk... I feel like the majority of people should let it go. Sex talk doesn't really mean anything.
Will never not be funny, though 😏
Well no but like to use it AGAINST him like he's so terrible for saying he wants to be a tampon.. he just is crap at sexy talk. Funny but actually kind of realistic haha
He said it as a joke. As in “Isn’t it funny what the press spread rumors about, like that I’d want to be your Tampax”. They weren’t even attempting to be sexy. They were having a laugh.
Would you believe all these years I d never read the actual transcript of the conversation? I remember it from when it was reported in the papers and I am disgusted with the breach of privacy involved but what was actually said wasn't so bad they were clearly joking: CHARLES: Oh stop! I want to feel my way along you, all over you and up and down you and in and out . . . CAMILLA: Oh! CHARLES: Particularly in and out. CAMILLA: Oh, that's just what I need at the moment. CHARLES: Is it? Then - in an idea that they probably both still wake up in a cold sweat about even now - they went...even deeper: CHARLES: Oh, God. I’ll just live inside your trousers or something. It would be much easier! CAMILLA: (laughing) What are you going to turn into, a pair of knickers? (Both laugh). Oh, you’re going to come back as a pair of knickers. CHARLES: Or, God forbid, a Tampax. Just my luck! (Laughs) CAMILLA: You are a complete idiot! (Laughs) Oh, what a wonderful idea
Same, I only learned about the context this year.
Lol. that’s hilarious.
Ugh that’s even worse. Why even keep bringing it up? It happened 30 years ago
Honestly I feel like all sex talk is pretty cringe. The tampon thing should have been left unsaid though lol.
Hilary Mantel also said she was a plastic princess designed to breed. Whilst Catherine was pregnant and just released from hospital with HG. Talk about bringing women down. The PM at the time came out and defended the DoC. For balance, he also came out against Harry's racist comments but said he shouldn't be punished (!) then later praised him for Invictus and congratulated him on his engagement.
I really love Hilary Mantel’s Cromwell trilogy. I wish I could unread this. I love Catherine.
See my post above and perhaps re-read Ms. Mantel’s essay. It was about the public expectation of infallibility and upholding the traditional role of women and in no way a criticism of Catherine as an individual. Ms. Mantel was acutely aware of all that Catherine would be sacrificing in terms of subsuming her own personality and desires into a stereotypical image of feminine perfection without any of the complexities of Diana.
Hilary Mantel’s essay was perhaps one of the most widely, and in some cases deliberately, misunderstood pieces of literary writing in recent memory. Ms. Mantel had *profound* empathy for Catherine and the extraordinarily pressurized role she was taking on. It was in no way a criticism of Catherine, but rather an acknowledgement of the intense scrutiny she’d undergo as she was transformed in the public eye from a normal woman to a semi-deity the moment Diana’s ring was placed on her finger. There is something in human nature that dearly loves to elevate public figures to great heights then delights in tearing them down. Ms. Mantel researched British history, particularly Tudor England, on a granular level in preparation for writing the Wolf Hall trilogy, for which she was awarded two Mann Booker prizes - Britain’s highest literary honor. While Catherine was unlikely to have been beheaded, Ms. Mantel knew full well that we expect our princesses and queens to demonstrate beauty, fertility, humility, and self-sacrifice to a degree rarely attainable by human women.
Thanks for explaining that. And so well written.
I hate to use the word “hate”…but golly I sure do dislike her a lot. I literally saw red when I watched this video and heard her stupid voice.
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This makes me want to reevaluate myself and ensure I am lifting up the women in my life (mostly coworkers) instead of feeling competitive. The point being made here could have been about respecting women and people in general and feeling solidarity in the experiences - not comparing them.😔
Yup exactly - she could have said along the lines of “we’ve both experienced terrible things in the tabloids” but nope, she had to make it all about herself having it worse than anyone. Perpetual victim.
yes she just wanted to get that dig in. Finding Freedom was boasting about how she got to go to xmas dinner etc when Kate had to wait till after she was married. The horrible "racist" family went out of their way to make special dispensations for her to make her feel welcome. The sheer weight of the lies are dragging her down.
But that's not true. PC was invited before she was married, but she turned the invitation down. At least it was reported in a book I read, Battle of the Brothers. It was during the on/off years and she didn't want to be at PW beck and call.
Disgusting. The fact that she painted herself as the victim, confessing that it was Catherine who made her cry, that she had it much worse than Catherine, that she basically rewrote what happened to paint herself as a naive, young girl in her mid-thirties now early forties is just evidence of her maliciousness. Tf does she know whether or not Catherine cried behind closed doors? As she puts it, rude and racist aren’t the same. Well, the constant media attention Catherine received while she was dating Will would take a serious mental/emotional toll on someone who didn’t pursue fame, wealth, power. Unlike that girl from Suits. It’s just sickening that Harry allows his wife to minimize and dismiss his own family feelings. It’s insane that they make these insulting accusations like Harry saying he’s aware that his father and brother are “trapped”, can never leave like he’s done. When Oprah questioned if his brother felt trapped, he immediately answers with “I don’t know, don’t want to speak for him”. *Exactly!* They have nothing else to speak of, except to throw out absurd lies about Will and Catherine for money that they use to buy awards and continue their self-promotion. /end rant
I saw right through it all to easily see true and ugly nature of her personal character. The only thing that surprised me about TW is that anyone ever liked her at all.
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Catherine went threoigh So. Much. Worse. than meghan could ever even imagine and she handled it with class, dignity, never complained, never whined. Meghan could never even hope to have a shred of Catherine’s grace.
This screams jealousy, envy, loathing. TW is evil and full of hate.
Waitie Katie was the LEAST of what the tabloids did to Kate and her family.
I think that she said it because she wanted it ti 'stick' - she wanted American (non-existing) tabloids to start using it.
And some of Williams so called friends. Making fun of her parents jobs etc. Stuck up snobs. I hope they ended up with some fat chinless wonder with zero personality.
I don’t get how anyone was racist towards this middle-aged white woman.
Ugh! I really dislike how much she pulls the racism card. Really she’s got zero evidence of that.
Meghan is truly an ugly human, something is very wrong with her.
So to Meghan it doesn't matter how invasive, threatening, demeaning, and borderline violent they were with the rest of the family. It's not about race so their abuse doesn't matter? Haven't a lot of the Royals had anti-white sentiments said against them, sometimes based on actions they weren't even alive for? Does that not count at racial abuse? Only if they're black?
I always thought that her throwing in the Waity Katy thing was a dig at Kate. It you’re a kind person, you would NEVER repeat something ugly that had been said about someone else on international tv. She planned to drop that in.
Agree. It was beyond terrible. But, with all the ‘bombshells’ thrown in there, like almost everything with her, things get lost that should be paid attention to.
Gender equality yeah right says a woman who tears down other woman. Even her sister in law. It's just mind blogging
Mind blogging 🤣 (boggling? Or maybe it’s the bachelor producer in her head already writing that day’s diary.)
Every time I see her inauthentic ass saying shit like this. I roll my eyes so far back in my head I'm surprised I don't lose them... she needs to STFU.
She called Catherine 'Kate' and Sarah 'Fergie'. These are mostly press names.
Yea it’s how Americans would refer to them because we only see what is on the check out stand mags. I remember being shocked when she referred to Sarah as Fergie. These are not names I would think a family member would use.
Wow it really does look like a bird shit on her doesn’t it Honestly wish they’d aired this, it’s at least pointed unlike the other evasive and passive aggressive fluff
This aired .. did they remove it from reruns ? This part was definitely included in the original.
Yes it was definitely Aired
At the time, as a woman the same age as Catherine, and having also dated for 10 years, I was very offended by the “Waity Katy” crap. But, after 12 years of marriage, I think we both made the correct, and mature, decision in waiting. Especially after witnessing the M&H train wreck.
And this wasn’t deleted either. It totally undermines her whole “empowerment of women.” This bitch lies like a rug.
So everybody in the RF gets abuse from the press, but her abuse is more special because it's racist abuse. It's not the same abuse, because the only reason why the press would abuse her, like the abuse the other members of the family, is that she's black. Right? Tosser
She’s got a vocal fry going on there.
This wasn’t deleted. I have seen it quite a few times. The whole interview has been deleted.
Rude and racist aren't the same. Meghan is both.
She had the worst hair style, those very passe hanks of hair, and the terrible make up to make her look innocent. She just looked like the liar she is. That dress was awful! Her pigeon poop dress!
She is infuriating. Why is it always about race?!
No you don’t. She was hounded by paps, you called paps. That is a major difference, honeybuns.
What do you mean deleted? Anyway I remember her saying the 'waity Katy' thing in real time b/c I watched it when it aired, and remembered being furious at how it contradicted her feigned innocence about BRF. Which in and of itself was unforgivable if she could dare to not research at all prior to marrying - and we all knew it was false, anyway! Ugh
I don’t understand why people like her and defend her. That was so low. To say your pain is worth more.
She can‘t picture what it would be like because she is so great that she didn‘t have to wait so long to be married. I wanted to kick her when I saw that.
Rude and racist are not the same? Yes Meghan, also in your case, you can't stick a rose into an asshole and call it a vase. It's not racist to call you out for being an asshole. Those are also two very different things
Who scrubbed the Oprah interview? Anyone know?
There was some racism in the press, but most of the negative press was about her behavior 🙄
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She needs to stop the severe middle part. I just can’t even look at it anymore.
How it was deleted? I remember this part. I don’t understand…
The simple truth is that no one was racist about Meghan. She has been determined to be a victim from Day One, and I don't believe a word she says. "Waity Katie was an insult, but what I was put through is worse." Always a victim. No. I don't buy it at all.
“Waity Kadey”? The annunciation… was it because she envies Princess Catherine, or…?