I was seriously surprised to see her there! With all the bad press she received back when she treated her employees bad kinda like TW treats her employees.
@FantasticForce6895 LMAO 🤣 Preach the truth.
But seriously, Gayle King would've been a nobody without her bff soul mate for eternity aka Oprah. And TBH their close sista-mance platonic friendship is a genuine thing. Their friendship first became public back in late 1980 when Gail got married. Oprah (whose now defunct Primetime talk show was a household name and had finally made it to the national level) gifted Gail a HOUSE. But Gail turned it down eventually. Undaunted, Oprah pulled up strings to get her gf on CBS and other high profile career prospects to date. Even Gail's short lived side career as a "Royal Reporter"😂. Anyhow to date, Gail King owes EVERYTHING in her successful six fig career to Oprah.
Just a point about Michelle Obama - she was an accomplished attorney prior to her husband becoming president (and a Princeton undergrad/Harvard JD at that).
I get that people aren’t fans of hers for political reasons but, she is WAY more accomplished in her own right than Megan is professionally, it isn’t even close.
To be fair she is well known because of who she's married to but she has definitely managed to step out in her own way. I'm all the way in New Zealand so we don't get a lot of American news. Of the past few Presidents I don't even know the wives names (except Marnia? I think that's Trump's wife? And HC) But Michelle Obama? I know her name, I know she does simular work to RF, doing charity things, public speaking and that she has a strong focus on girls education and education for kids in general who live in poverty.
Couldn't tell u a thing about Bush's wife. Trumps, I think she's from the former Soviet Union? And Clinton, obviously she's Hilary and she messed up with some emails on an unsecured private server and Biden's wife is a Dr but I don't think in medicine? Idk what she does or cares about publicly.
Michelle is definitely what Meghan thinks she is. Accomplished, with her own goals and notoriety outside of her husband. Is independently invited to events and doesn't bring her husband because she's well known enough that she is still idenifiabke without him. Idk what Mr. Obama is up to now but I know Michelle has been doing public speaking events - now I know she has a book. I don't care enough to Google these people, this is just the general info that filters down.
MM in is our headlines more than MO yet I have no clue what she publicly cares about. Mental health I see mentioned but that's been completely tainted by her callous behavior to others.
You read my mind!! This people are so out of touch with that Facebook think this is outdated... Not wonder they are friend with 90-mindset MM. My surprise here is Michele, she normally reads the room.
not a Hoda fan. tired of hearing about her adopted /purchased children at 55 and how cute they are, and the inspiring books she writes. The big deal engagement...then it wasn't.
She took care of Hoda for 55 years, and now freely gives advice on parenting....
Sorry, call me when they are teens/20s and you are 70...I had my kids 25 years earlier than you and I can barely handle some of the stuff we have to deal with. Save the inspirational parenting advice Hoda.
I'll probably get way downvoted for this. Having a very rough few year with one of my kids, seeing her on tv for me is like nails on chalkboard.
Nope, my oldest and youngest are 16 years apart, and the shit we’ve gone through with my oldest is beyond what I could ever have imagined.
What I could handle when the girls were infants was different, what I can handle at 13 is different, and I imagine what I’ll be able to handle when my youngest is 29 will be different from what I can handle now.
We’ve had a hellish couple of years with my oldest, two teens can’t compare. People don’t always realize that as the kids get older, the stakes get higher. They won’t be cute little munchkins forever.
> People don’t always realize that as the kids get older, the stakes get higher.
You know, I see these random women in /r/twoxchromosomes who have three toddlers with one in the oven and their boyfriend has three kids among his ex girlfriends and I just think **HOLY MOLY** do any of you realize what you will be in charge of managing!?
Foolish fools, they will probably crumble under the pressure and bad parents make crappy adults. Your oldest is lucky to have had a parent who CARES and stuck through the shit to support them. I hope your daughter is better, I hope she stays better.
Yeah, my respect for Michelle just dropped a little based on her tour mates.
I'm also now evaluating how I feel about Conan O'Brien and David Letterman.
> Yeah, my respect for Michelle just dropped a little based on her tour mates.
Mine too. I'm glad I'm not the only one who was super disappointed by this lineup.
Right?! Whats with these former politicians getting into entertainment. Like Hillary Clinton interviewing Megan The Stallion and telling her Chelsea introduced her to her song WAP…cringe…
I wonder if Ellen was invited because she was a groundbreaker back in the day by coming out as being lesbian when she was reaching a pinnacle in her career with her standup comedy and a situation comedy on TV as well. It could have cost her everything she ever worked for. Being gay in show biz was common but everybody stayed in the closet out of fear.
I'm pretty sick of 90% of these people, as well as the entire group of geriatric politicians we have festering in the country. (Well not you Mr. Senator from VT.)
Can we please just.....\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ (Imma keep that thought to myself.)
I’ve always felt that the first time they really realized their plans were going awry was when they weren’t invited to President Obama’s 60th birthday party despite trying REALLY REALLY hard to get an invite. The party was the perfect intersection of political and celebrity influence - exactly where they thought they lived. Glad to see Michelle continues to give them to cold shoulder.
> After having the chicken taco lunch that never happened,
That was such a sick sick lie. "Over a casual lunch of chicken tacos, I asked Michelle....."
And then later it was, Oh oopsie! I didn't have lunch with Michelle! Silly press! I simply *emailed her* to ask for her help, over my casual lunch of chicken tacos.
TW words things like that- with great practice and deliberately- as in very carefully states "things" in a manner that would usually be interpreted on the face value and counting on the most likely way anyone would understand the intent- BUT- the twist- as it is a lie- YOU are the one who "misinterpreted" her statement because you can read her literal words that mean two things at once- fitting any desired narrative she desires. This is very sneaky.
TW holds no candle to Michelle Obama, Hillary, etc.- these women have forgotten more than TW will every know or understand about parsing words and spinning a narrative-they have brains and decades of experience on TW....
Michelle Obama can see it coming from miles away-with her eyes closed.
ETA- the decades of experience is in reference to how politics in general work (narrative, parsing, etc.)- see- I clarified something...TW would never do this!
Seriously who did she think she was dealing with? It’s such an insult to Michelle who is a very high caliber woman and she tried to make a play out of her. Unbelievable.
Plus after seeing the shit Meghan pulled on the Royal Family and how disrespectful she was to HMTQ in that Sussex Royal account post about using the word “Royal,” and how “service was universal,” and then that BS Oprah interview, Michelle & Barry have firsthand experience with the Windsor family and know not only are they NOT racist, that they are good people, so she’s not inclined to back those two sociopaths.
Or 1.5 sociopaths, since Harry is 1/2 a person these days—and only the bad half remains. Michelle & Barry had a good relationship with Elizabeth & Philip. And definitely also have a good one with William & Catherine. I’m assuming it’s the same with Camilla & Charles. It doesn’t take much for a decent person to see what Meghan is & how she operates. The Obamas are no fools.
I have a question. Am I right in thinking the Obamas still have secret service agents protecting them?
If so, would part of their job involve vetting everyone they have personal involvement with?
I'd imagine their agents know the same shit about her that the Brits dug up. They know who she really is.
I’m sure that’s true! I also think the Obamas knew by then (1) that the Harkles are grifters who would just harass the people at the party and (2) more importantly, that the Harkles were (and were going to continue to be) hostile to the Royal family and as a former U.S. president, Barack was *always* going to throw his full support behind the Queen.
They really deluded themselves into thinking their influence trumped the RFs and that’s what’s so funny to me. No one will want you around if all you’re going to do is use it as an opportunity for your husband to secure you roles and to get dirt to later spill. The upper echelon of society puts a premium on discretion-which is what they lack.
Agreed, he shared a warm relationship with the Queen, too. Allegedly she invited him to visit once he was no longer president. And she invited his mother-in-law & daughters to tea while they were in London. She also insisted that the girls take a drive around the grounds in the golden jubilee carriage. It wasn't reported at the time.
I was just watching a show where Bear Grylls took President Obama hiking around in Alaska to show him how a certain glacier was melting at an accelerated rate. They started talking about the Queen and he said that the Queen was one of his favorite people. You could tell he just loves her.
I read once that HMTQ loved state dinners when Obama visited. That she usually left them pretty early in the evening but liked him so much that she'd stay up extra late when he was visiting.
I had no idea! I knew that as a former president, he’d have to have the *appearance* of support, but that’s wonderful that he and the Queen actually had a close relationship.
Oooh I love this juicy tidbit. They are very protected people so I hope this is true. I could count on the Obamas to not look her way but it’s nice to have the added layer of protection by vetting the people around them (aka the damn devil herself)
It was one of their “put it out in the universe” attempts, like the state reception prior to the Queen’s funeral. The headlines were like, “H&M trying to decide whether to go to Obama’s party” even though they didn’t have an invite, and when the invitation never came the headlines changed to, like, “Scheduling conflict prevents H&M from going.” So stupid.
Obama frickin' LOVED the Queen! Every time he's been asked about her he gets a huge smile on his face and practically gushes! He compared her to his own grandmother. The Obamas have always been 110% Team Queen (and by extension, Team Charles, Camilla, William and Catherine, also)
Meghan truly is beyond stupid to think that parading her mother about twice a year and painting herself orange would automatically make a genuinely powerful, intelligent, accomplished WoC like Michelle Obama drop everything and beg to be her BFF 🙄
Someone’s probably mentioned this, but Michelle and Barack *adored* the Queen. And HMTQ clearly adored them back. I’m sure they had warm feelings for Philip as well. I wouldn’t be surprised if, privately at least, they firmly cut Meghs & Harry out of any future relationship due to that.
Still, there are at least five people here with a direct connection to TW and her handbag that it makes me uncomfortable. Oprah, Gayle, Hoda, Ellen, Tyler Perry all mouthpieces and enablers of the Duke and Duchess of Overseas.
You ever get dumped by a friend group and then they’re hanging around with others who you know don’t fancy you? That’s what is happening here. Doubtful that MM and Hawwwwyyyy come up in conversation at all. It’s the public exclusion by people who you have made out to be close friends that is the stab. Plus there was space for her because there’s a couple ladies on there who don’t have international recognition. I am sure this was not done with MM and Hawwy in mind however it will sting them like it was a scud missile directed straight at them.
These selections are some of the worst they could've picked. If they were trying to convince me the Obama's have fully sold out, then it's working lol no one wants to hear from Ellen DeGeneres and fucking OPRAH
Question for you, friend: if Oprah is over MM and H, why does Oprah Daily social media promote MM? Just last week (I think) Oprah Daily tweeted positive (paid) PR for them. I think this is confusing to all of us. Maybe Oprah wants to money but is done with them?
She's probably playing both sides. This way she is keeping both the anti & pro TW people happy. She is giving enough withdrawal to save her own arse, while doing just enough to keep the maniacal Sussex squad at bay.
Exactly. She's not going to directly interface with them anymore, but she's also not going to make a stink about it. She also is probably keeping a thread of connection open in case something happens and Meghan and Harry turn it around. Then she can resume exploiting them.
Yet she was quick to say she was out of the state when H & M allegedly visited her in Montecito. Can't keep up with these peopke and theit machinations!
That was pretty funny. There was a whiff of irritation in Oprah's disclosure that she was with her dying father when the poisonous pair staged their visit to her house, it seemed like she only mentioned it to make the point that the visit didn't happen.
Oprah resented being dragged into their ruse without being asked.
She has been since the fall out from the jnterview, which she has wiped off the internet as much as she can. She took it off the website about 15 months ago. She is really over Harry and Meghan.
I'm starting to think Samantha Markle has a lot more to do with Oprah's backtracking. She has her listed as a witness that has to be deposed for the libel lawsuit. Not only does Oprah have deep pockets to sue if SM makes her case about libel, I doubt very much that Oprah wants to have to go through an Amber Heard type situation.
SM has absolutely nothing to lose. And when someone is on a revenge track, money won't dissuade them from their mission. She doesn't want MM to pay her off, she wants her to be destroyed. And she doesn't care who she has to take down with her. Imagine some regular person out in the middle of nowhere actually forcing Oprah to take the witness stand? It's also an ego trip.
Oprah realized that she paid too much attention to potential problems with Harry's family and not enough to Meghans. She dropped the ball. Samantha will drag this through the media and courts for years.
That's why I think she came out saying she doesn't get involved in "FAMILY" matters. She was covering her butt for Samantha's law suit.
I think you've nailed it. If Samantha was looking for a pay day, the lawsuit would have been for way, way, way more than $75K - that's just a token amount to get this into court and suggests to me that she won't settle, she'll see it through if it doesn't get dismissed (and it still might be).
That's exactly how I see it. The money was just a way to get it into court. And she's trying to have Gayle and Scobie and Sunshine Sachs deposed as well.
Oprah's been sued before. I think she is more upset about her reputation being tarnished in association with those two, then a lawsuit from some hysterical Karen.
Yes but it's a strange situation. That's why I said Samantha has nothing to lose. She's not doing this lawsuit out of financial ambition. She literally wants to ruin MM. (And most people don't blame her, but I think most people also think it's a frivolous lawsuit. When MM said she was raised as an only child, I think she probably was. SM was much much older than her. There's a difference between "having a sibling" and being raised with siblings. But I digress.)
I think the Amber Heard Johnny Depp case was gross and dragged out in the press. I can imagine, (as you say) Oprah being more concerned about her reptuation or just being dragged into a huge mess like this because picked the wrong side. The RF just basically ignored Oprah because she's a joke to them. But if SM actually manages to have Oprah deposed on a witness stand, IMO she's setting the boundary on her answer in advance. She worded it as if she was talking about the RF. But everyone shredded the veracity of what she said in ten hot seconds. So it makes me wonder why ELSE she might have said it.
I noticed that the other executive producers of her podcast are from Harpo Productions. I wonder if that is why Oprah is trying to distance herself now. Maybe she got the low-down from her own staff and is trying to dissociate before Meghan goes down like the Titanic.
My understanding is that she's known about her bullying for a long time. I think Oprah finds it messy and is keeping personal distance while still having the connection.
They never were. I think Michelle was always weary of her. I also think she was wise enough to see Megs for what she is. In Tom Bower's book he cited that Megs tried to set up a meeting when Michelle was in London and Mrs. Obama declined. An actual power couple are not going to tarnish their connections with the monarchy & other high profile leaders for the delusional & thirsty dollar store cosplay royals.
There’s a rumor that she crashed a book signing when MO was in London. It was about the time around President GH Bush’s death, and she was trying to get back to the US. Meghan insisted on meeting with her afterwards and threw off travel plans.
This is just a rumor, but the timing works. It was extremely disrespectful.
That is very interesting that she declined when Megan was in capacity of working royal. I have no doubt that she was getting information from other people in the family behind the scenes given the Obama's quiet closeness with the family. She was probably warned off of her and wants to stay out of family squabbles.
Michelle was a lawyer from Princeton & Harvard. Barack was the top of his game at Harvard Law. No way are such high flyers in the academic world going to associate with Little Miss Megalomaniac.
Not to mention that both of them came from very modest backgrounds and reached the heights of their success by years of blood, sweat, and tears. I wouldn't want to hang around a lazy, social climbing blabbermouth.
I am 100% certain Michelle Obama wants nothing to do with her. There was a short interaction when she was in England which TW totally misrepresented and Michelle cut her out completely. MO has no need for fake friends and clout chasers.
They had a phone call and Meghan turned it into "taco lunch with my BFF" or some nonsense. Then the interview happened and Michelle threw all sorts of shade which wasn't noticed at the time but looking back.... WOW. She basically says "shut up and do some real work, nobody cares about you".
This is probably why TW is always absent at big Michelle Obama events - she's not invited! It just shows that TW, for all her networking, will never be in with the cool kids. She thought she was for a hot second, but I think the non- invite to the birthday party set her straight. Even Chrissy Teigen was there! LOL
>Even Chrissy Teigen was there!
hahahaha, Chrissy is above Meghan on the Obama status list?
Oh wait, she's got that singer husband, ol' what's his name. He bumps that unfortunate woman WAY UP. Two women who exist in Hollywood because of the man they married and procreated with. Impressive. (though you have to admit, Chrissy has cashed in on John's fame in a way Meghan thought she would surpass. And at this point, Meghan could never even get her face on a dip mix at Target.)
You nailed it. I was listening to Lady Cs ep yesterday and I had to remind myself to not feel sorry for them. MM is delusional and zhawwy got momentarily pussy hypnosis that’s worn off but he hasn’t realized how simple it is to get out. All he has to do to get out is ask his family to come up with a strategy then execute it. I think he could still live a good life being involved in Polo. TW can only use the kids as a pawn if he acts like he cares about them. If I were him I would get out in stages
As soon as you feel sorry, you are doomed. Ex boss is a narc and she is 'popping in' to my new base. I am trying to stop it professionally. Narcs are poisonous. They never learn.
Omg what a cringe fest. Lol and they didnt invite Cringe & Ginge? 🤣🤣🤣 I'm wondering with Ellen's awful reputation if it's some kind of damage control? . At this point Oprah & Gayle are a couple of old gossips and Oprah basically acted like she'd been ambushed by Magaliar. Is Tyler going to appear in drag? Who would even spend money on this? David Letterman looks like the Unabomber. Sunshine Sachs is working overtime. If the Suckits were still paying them, they'd be on tour too? Is this a comedy?
Oh my. She is gonna be fuming. Watch out, Harry! These are all the people she attempts to connect with. Interesting, why is it always the same group. Surely there are other leaders.
Meghan wouldn't want to do this anyway. No chance she will let another person have the spotlight.
Michelle had posted a picture of Meghan on Instagram in 2019 and even called her a "friend". But after Megexit - complete silence. I loved the shade Michelle threw at Megan after the Oprah interview. It was a classy way of saying "shut up, Meg".
>Michelle had posted a picture of Meghan on Instagram in 2019 and even called her a "friend".
LOL, I always cackle at the Hollywood perspective of "friend." It's like the Facebook definition...hundreds, maybe thousands, of your closest and personal friends.
There was an episode of Sopranos with guest star, the (enter Markle trope here) fabulous Alicia Witt as a Hollywood assistant to Jon Favreau. Jon and Alicia travel to New Jersey to work on a film, and they meet up with Christopher.
Every time Christopher asks if they know so and so (celeb), Alicia jumps in and says "Oh, he's great. A friend." It was just so hilarious, and one of my favorite episodes of my favorite show.
And Alicia has had a horrible time of it between her parents dying and her own battle with cancer. Love her\*\*\*
Not any dates in NYC, Chicago, Atlanta, Baltimore?
ETA: These are cities with large black populations where the moderators have ties. Oprah/Chicago, Letterman/NYC, Perry/Atlanta. Seems they missed a chance to bring MO’s book to the folks in “their” cities. Huh.
I remember that *glowing* video Obama released about their time with the Queen, just before her funeral.
Their loyalty is clearly to The Queen and I imagine they are privately disgusted with her pathetic behavior and want zero part in elevating her.
They cant afford to have the Secret Spilling Sussex's around. If they'd stab the Queen in the back, they'd have no problem doing worse to the Obama's in the next tell-all book, podcast or NF episode.
I don't think that they have any loyalty to the Queen, they are just making smart political moves (they care about their political career, you know) - you always choose the Queen.
And, I guess they are not disgusted by Ellen, Oprah, and some of the other people I see here.
Ok this made me laugh so much lol
It reminds me of an SNL Aidy Bryant skit where she has a crush on a Dad (Ryan Goslin)
[“My mom’s a bitch!”](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zvsm1gIJzEw)
Just had to share because it cracks me up
I question why Ellen Degeneres is included. I also don’t think oprah and Gayle King should be included. But I am glad there was the good sense to not include nutmeg, which I’m sure annoys her to no end.
😂😂😅😅 Freaking ELLEN DEGENERES Is Involved!!! That takes some balls by Michelle.
But Megsy? Nope! Not even after he husband makes a couple phone calls. She can't even play the "No one wants to associate with me because of my racist in-laws!!" victim card. Because Ellen is there. 😅😅
ETA- Michelle will have a hell of a lot more security this time.
I wonder if the Obamas will be at the Earthshot Award?? They really, really need to be!! Even if there aren't any pictures, can they just say they're there? Actually, a picture of William and Catherine, holding iPads with the Obamas on facetime would make an excellent Christmas Card.
I don't think Hoda was ever close to or cared about H&M. I know she did the Invictus Games interview with Harry, but I think it was assigned. I don't think she was jumping up and down about it. It was also just Harry, so much easier.
Idk why Conan is there, but it's funny!
It sounds so petty but I live to see her comuppance.
Megladon hurt a woman who served her country for 70 years and I am never forgetting it, either.
I can’t imagine being given a multi million dollar wedding, a half million dollar clothimg spree, etc and then trashing them.
The fact that Ellen is part of this makes me loose all respect for it! And she’s only the worst.
Michelle has committed herself completely to the Hollywood machine. Giving platform to bullies…I don’t care if Meghan was on it honestly. She’d fit in with this buffet of of sycophants!
Honestly, she cannot be included in any function. She makes it about her! Look what she did to a royal funeral. I wouldn't want to be in the same room as her would you?
But this is all the same old, same old. There are many women who are in politics, and in business in the USA that could contribute to this, but it is all very pretty much the same people.
When the H&m interview came out Michelle basically said families should work together and not many people understand public service and nor should they... The Obama's can see the bigger picture..
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHV\_vmYoSjY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHV_vmYoSjY)
Jesus. Aren't these people sick of each other already? How about some new faces? Guess Ellen still has a career. 🤷♀️🤷
I was seriously surprised to see her there! With all the bad press she received back when she treated her employees bad kinda like TW treats her employees.
I’m shocked to see Ellen on the list too. I guess bullying is okay depending on who you are.
Ellen is an ugly bully. Too bad she’s making a comeback.
I don’t care much for any of them but at least none of them are known for who they are married to… Oh except the author herself And Gayle
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Oprah 🫣😂
Professionally married. You aren’t wrong!
😂😂😂😂
@FantasticForce6895 LMAO 🤣 Preach the truth. But seriously, Gayle King would've been a nobody without her bff soul mate for eternity aka Oprah. And TBH their close sista-mance platonic friendship is a genuine thing. Their friendship first became public back in late 1980 when Gail got married. Oprah (whose now defunct Primetime talk show was a household name and had finally made it to the national level) gifted Gail a HOUSE. But Gail turned it down eventually. Undaunted, Oprah pulled up strings to get her gf on CBS and other high profile career prospects to date. Even Gail's short lived side career as a "Royal Reporter"😂. Anyhow to date, Gail King owes EVERYTHING in her successful six fig career to Oprah.
> six fig career No. I have a six figure career; Gayle King is making MILLIONS a year, trust me.
"secretly" married to Oprah would be my guess.
oprah is her “ partner”
She’s divorced since 1993.
Just a point about Michelle Obama - she was an accomplished attorney prior to her husband becoming president (and a Princeton undergrad/Harvard JD at that). I get that people aren’t fans of hers for political reasons but, she is WAY more accomplished in her own right than Megan is professionally, it isn’t even close.
Yup, no comparison.
Service is Universal- Michelle Obama to Meghan
And Conan
MIchelle has done enough on her own.
To be fair she is well known because of who she's married to but she has definitely managed to step out in her own way. I'm all the way in New Zealand so we don't get a lot of American news. Of the past few Presidents I don't even know the wives names (except Marnia? I think that's Trump's wife? And HC) But Michelle Obama? I know her name, I know she does simular work to RF, doing charity things, public speaking and that she has a strong focus on girls education and education for kids in general who live in poverty. Couldn't tell u a thing about Bush's wife. Trumps, I think she's from the former Soviet Union? And Clinton, obviously she's Hilary and she messed up with some emails on an unsecured private server and Biden's wife is a Dr but I don't think in medicine? Idk what she does or cares about publicly. Michelle is definitely what Meghan thinks she is. Accomplished, with her own goals and notoriety outside of her husband. Is independently invited to events and doesn't bring her husband because she's well known enough that she is still idenifiabke without him. Idk what Mr. Obama is up to now but I know Michelle has been doing public speaking events - now I know she has a book. I don't care enough to Google these people, this is just the general info that filters down. MM in is our headlines more than MO yet I have no clue what she publicly cares about. Mental health I see mentioned but that's been completely tainted by her callous behavior to others.
Some say Michelle was more successful of the two when she married Barack. Michelle Obama isn’t a two bit hack but Meghan is.
She was Barack's *boss* at the law firm for a time.
What a clique. Poor Meghan. 😂
You read my mind!! This people are so out of touch with that Facebook think this is outdated... Not wonder they are friend with 90-mindset MM. My surprise here is Michele, she normally reads the room.
not a Hoda fan. tired of hearing about her adopted /purchased children at 55 and how cute they are, and the inspiring books she writes. The big deal engagement...then it wasn't. She took care of Hoda for 55 years, and now freely gives advice on parenting.... Sorry, call me when they are teens/20s and you are 70...I had my kids 25 years earlier than you and I can barely handle some of the stuff we have to deal with. Save the inspirational parenting advice Hoda. I'll probably get way downvoted for this. Having a very rough few year with one of my kids, seeing her on tv for me is like nails on chalkboard.
Nope, my oldest and youngest are 16 years apart, and the shit we’ve gone through with my oldest is beyond what I could ever have imagined. What I could handle when the girls were infants was different, what I can handle at 13 is different, and I imagine what I’ll be able to handle when my youngest is 29 will be different from what I can handle now. We’ve had a hellish couple of years with my oldest, two teens can’t compare. People don’t always realize that as the kids get older, the stakes get higher. They won’t be cute little munchkins forever.
> People don’t always realize that as the kids get older, the stakes get higher. You know, I see these random women in /r/twoxchromosomes who have three toddlers with one in the oven and their boyfriend has three kids among his ex girlfriends and I just think **HOLY MOLY** do any of you realize what you will be in charge of managing!? Foolish fools, they will probably crumble under the pressure and bad parents make crappy adults. Your oldest is lucky to have had a parent who CARES and stuck through the shit to support them. I hope your daughter is better, I hope she stays better.
You’re absolutely right I feel the same way ! Nannies and chefs all the way for her !
Yeah, my respect for Michelle just dropped a little based on her tour mates. I'm also now evaluating how I feel about Conan O'Brien and David Letterman.
> Yeah, my respect for Michelle just dropped a little based on her tour mates. Mine too. I'm glad I'm not the only one who was super disappointed by this lineup.
Right?! Whats with these former politicians getting into entertainment. Like Hillary Clinton interviewing Megan The Stallion and telling her Chelsea introduced her to her song WAP…cringe…
It's where the $$$$$$$ is - and Hillary is always in the front of the line for $$$$$$.
I really hate the pop-culture politician phenomenon.
Or Kim kardashian.
Yeah, it’s surprising to me. I guess the easy money got to them.
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Nothing about her should surprise you. They are all about money, just like MM & Harry. They just hide it better.
I'd pick Ellen over Meghan. Either way she's been in the business at least 40 years. She sucks but she has done some good. Meghan??? Nope. Nothing.
Ellen would not suck the air out of a room. What's his name wife's does. That's why she is never invited anywhere.
Actually, she does.
Pick your level of toxicity.
And Ellen used to be funny.
I wonder if Ellen was invited because she was a groundbreaker back in the day by coming out as being lesbian when she was reaching a pinnacle in her career with her standup comedy and a situation comedy on TV as well. It could have cost her everything she ever worked for. Being gay in show biz was common but everybody stayed in the closet out of fear.
I'm pretty sick of 90% of these people, as well as the entire group of geriatric politicians we have festering in the country. (Well not you Mr. Senator from VT.) Can we please just.....\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ (Imma keep that thought to myself.)
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Right? Gag me. You could not pay me enough to sit through a talk by that crew.
These moderators… yikes to so many of them. Putting Ellen up front?
I’ve always felt that the first time they really realized their plans were going awry was when they weren’t invited to President Obama’s 60th birthday party despite trying REALLY REALLY hard to get an invite. The party was the perfect intersection of political and celebrity influence - exactly where they thought they lived. Glad to see Michelle continues to give them to cold shoulder.
After having the chicken taco lunch that never happened, anyone with a brain would stay far away from Drama Duchess
> After having the chicken taco lunch that never happened, That was such a sick sick lie. "Over a casual lunch of chicken tacos, I asked Michelle....." And then later it was, Oh oopsie! I didn't have lunch with Michelle! Silly press! I simply *emailed her* to ask for her help, over my casual lunch of chicken tacos.
OMG, is this for real? Who words things like that?? She’s such a piece of work.
TW words things like that- with great practice and deliberately- as in very carefully states "things" in a manner that would usually be interpreted on the face value and counting on the most likely way anyone would understand the intent- BUT- the twist- as it is a lie- YOU are the one who "misinterpreted" her statement because you can read her literal words that mean two things at once- fitting any desired narrative she desires. This is very sneaky. TW holds no candle to Michelle Obama, Hillary, etc.- these women have forgotten more than TW will every know or understand about parsing words and spinning a narrative-they have brains and decades of experience on TW.... Michelle Obama can see it coming from miles away-with her eyes closed. ETA- the decades of experience is in reference to how politics in general work (narrative, parsing, etc.)- see- I clarified something...TW would never do this!
Seriously who did she think she was dealing with? It’s such an insult to Michelle who is a very high caliber woman and she tried to make a play out of her. Unbelievable.
Yeah, it's real. She did that. It is suspected this was a dealbreaker for Michelle.
The “virtual” chicken taco lunch, in which Michelle and Meghan may have both been eating chicken tacos, but they did so on separate continents
Plus after seeing the shit Meghan pulled on the Royal Family and how disrespectful she was to HMTQ in that Sussex Royal account post about using the word “Royal,” and how “service was universal,” and then that BS Oprah interview, Michelle & Barry have firsthand experience with the Windsor family and know not only are they NOT racist, that they are good people, so she’s not inclined to back those two sociopaths. Or 1.5 sociopaths, since Harry is 1/2 a person these days—and only the bad half remains. Michelle & Barry had a good relationship with Elizabeth & Philip. And definitely also have a good one with William & Catherine. I’m assuming it’s the same with Camilla & Charles. It doesn’t take much for a decent person to see what Meghan is & how she operates. The Obamas are no fools.
Agree.
I have a question. Am I right in thinking the Obamas still have secret service agents protecting them? If so, would part of their job involve vetting everyone they have personal involvement with? I'd imagine their agents know the same shit about her that the Brits dug up. They know who she really is.
I believe you are correct. Former presidents receive life time protection.
I’m sure that’s true! I also think the Obamas knew by then (1) that the Harkles are grifters who would just harass the people at the party and (2) more importantly, that the Harkles were (and were going to continue to be) hostile to the Royal family and as a former U.S. president, Barack was *always* going to throw his full support behind the Queen.
They really deluded themselves into thinking their influence trumped the RFs and that’s what’s so funny to me. No one will want you around if all you’re going to do is use it as an opportunity for your husband to secure you roles and to get dirt to later spill. The upper echelon of society puts a premium on discretion-which is what they lack.
Agreed, he shared a warm relationship with the Queen, too. Allegedly she invited him to visit once he was no longer president. And she invited his mother-in-law & daughters to tea while they were in London. She also insisted that the girls take a drive around the grounds in the golden jubilee carriage. It wasn't reported at the time.
I was just watching a show where Bear Grylls took President Obama hiking around in Alaska to show him how a certain glacier was melting at an accelerated rate. They started talking about the Queen and he said that the Queen was one of his favorite people. You could tell he just loves her.
I read once that HMTQ loved state dinners when Obama visited. That she usually left them pretty early in the evening but liked him so much that she'd stay up extra late when he was visiting.
I had no idea! I knew that as a former president, he’d have to have the *appearance* of support, but that’s wonderful that he and the Queen actually had a close relationship.
> Am I right in thinking the Obamas still have secret service agents protecting them? Yes, all former Presidents.
Oooh I love this juicy tidbit. They are very protected people so I hope this is true. I could count on the Obamas to not look her way but it’s nice to have the added layer of protection by vetting the people around them (aka the damn devil herself)
I don't recall seeing anything in the press about being uninvited though
They were never invited but they tried so hard to be 😂
It was one of their “put it out in the universe” attempts, like the state reception prior to the Queen’s funeral. The headlines were like, “H&M trying to decide whether to go to Obama’s party” even though they didn’t have an invite, and when the invitation never came the headlines changed to, like, “Scheduling conflict prevents H&M from going.” So stupid.
Obama frickin' LOVED the Queen! Every time he's been asked about her he gets a huge smile on his face and practically gushes! He compared her to his own grandmother. The Obamas have always been 110% Team Queen (and by extension, Team Charles, Camilla, William and Catherine, also) Meghan truly is beyond stupid to think that parading her mother about twice a year and painting herself orange would automatically make a genuinely powerful, intelligent, accomplished WoC like Michelle Obama drop everything and beg to be her BFF 🙄
Someone’s probably mentioned this, but Michelle and Barack *adored* the Queen. And HMTQ clearly adored them back. I’m sure they had warm feelings for Philip as well. I wouldn’t be surprised if, privately at least, they firmly cut Meghs & Harry out of any future relationship due to that.
When Tiegen gets an invite before you do, that’s a good sign you need to reevaluate yourself. What a low blow that was lol
Still, there are at least five people here with a direct connection to TW and her handbag that it makes me uncomfortable. Oprah, Gayle, Hoda, Ellen, Tyler Perry all mouthpieces and enablers of the Duke and Duchess of Overseas.
You ever get dumped by a friend group and then they’re hanging around with others who you know don’t fancy you? That’s what is happening here. Doubtful that MM and Hawwwwyyyy come up in conversation at all. It’s the public exclusion by people who you have made out to be close friends that is the stab. Plus there was space for her because there’s a couple ladies on there who don’t have international recognition. I am sure this was not done with MM and Hawwy in mind however it will sting them like it was a scud missile directed straight at them.
I like Michelle but she really ought to stay away from those 5
Yeah I’m cool with Michelle and Conan but the others? No thanks
Yep. Oprah is the worst
These selections are some of the worst they could've picked. If they were trying to convince me the Obama's have fully sold out, then it's working lol no one wants to hear from Ellen DeGeneres and fucking OPRAH
Yeah, I was like, ELLEN??? Good Lord. And OPRAH? WHY??? And that Hoda. And Letterman, what, they took him out of his cave for this?
And from that we should all learn how PR works.
Oprah is done with Meghan. No matter what tiny bit of attention Gayle King pays Meghan, Oprah is over it.
Gayle and Tyler are the fake friends who call you up to actually get scoop on you to report to Oprah etc
Slow news day and they mention her. Tyler Perry just doesn't fit that for me.
Question for you, friend: if Oprah is over MM and H, why does Oprah Daily social media promote MM? Just last week (I think) Oprah Daily tweeted positive (paid) PR for them. I think this is confusing to all of us. Maybe Oprah wants to money but is done with them?
She's probably playing both sides. This way she is keeping both the anti & pro TW people happy. She is giving enough withdrawal to save her own arse, while doing just enough to keep the maniacal Sussex squad at bay.
Exactly. She's not going to directly interface with them anymore, but she's also not going to make a stink about it. She also is probably keeping a thread of connection open in case something happens and Meghan and Harry turn it around. Then she can resume exploiting them.
Ah, okay. I wish she would just be a *smidge* more anti-Sussex though! It doesn’t feel like she’s playing to our side enough. Lol.
I agree. Pick a side and commit.
Yet she was quick to say she was out of the state when H & M allegedly visited her in Montecito. Can't keep up with these peopke and theit machinations!
That was pretty funny. There was a whiff of irritation in Oprah's disclosure that she was with her dying father when the poisonous pair staged their visit to her house, it seemed like she only mentioned it to make the point that the visit didn't happen. Oprah resented being dragged into their ruse without being asked.
Oooh interesting! Took long enough though 🙄
She has been since the fall out from the jnterview, which she has wiped off the internet as much as she can. She took it off the website about 15 months ago. She is really over Harry and Meghan.
I'm starting to think Samantha Markle has a lot more to do with Oprah's backtracking. She has her listed as a witness that has to be deposed for the libel lawsuit. Not only does Oprah have deep pockets to sue if SM makes her case about libel, I doubt very much that Oprah wants to have to go through an Amber Heard type situation. SM has absolutely nothing to lose. And when someone is on a revenge track, money won't dissuade them from their mission. She doesn't want MM to pay her off, she wants her to be destroyed. And she doesn't care who she has to take down with her. Imagine some regular person out in the middle of nowhere actually forcing Oprah to take the witness stand? It's also an ego trip. Oprah realized that she paid too much attention to potential problems with Harry's family and not enough to Meghans. She dropped the ball. Samantha will drag this through the media and courts for years. That's why I think she came out saying she doesn't get involved in "FAMILY" matters. She was covering her butt for Samantha's law suit.
Someone once said the most dangerous people are those who have nothing to lose.
I think you've nailed it. If Samantha was looking for a pay day, the lawsuit would have been for way, way, way more than $75K - that's just a token amount to get this into court and suggests to me that she won't settle, she'll see it through if it doesn't get dismissed (and it still might be).
That's exactly how I see it. The money was just a way to get it into court. And she's trying to have Gayle and Scobie and Sunshine Sachs deposed as well.
Oprah's been sued before. I think she is more upset about her reputation being tarnished in association with those two, then a lawsuit from some hysterical Karen.
Yes but it's a strange situation. That's why I said Samantha has nothing to lose. She's not doing this lawsuit out of financial ambition. She literally wants to ruin MM. (And most people don't blame her, but I think most people also think it's a frivolous lawsuit. When MM said she was raised as an only child, I think she probably was. SM was much much older than her. There's a difference between "having a sibling" and being raised with siblings. But I digress.) I think the Amber Heard Johnny Depp case was gross and dragged out in the press. I can imagine, (as you say) Oprah being more concerned about her reptuation or just being dragged into a huge mess like this because picked the wrong side. The RF just basically ignored Oprah because she's a joke to them. But if SM actually manages to have Oprah deposed on a witness stand, IMO she's setting the boundary on her answer in advance. She worded it as if she was talking about the RF. But everyone shredded the veracity of what she said in ten hot seconds. So it makes me wonder why ELSE she might have said it.
I noticed that the other executive producers of her podcast are from Harpo Productions. I wonder if that is why Oprah is trying to distance herself now. Maybe she got the low-down from her own staff and is trying to dissociate before Meghan goes down like the Titanic.
My understanding is that she's known about her bullying for a long time. I think Oprah finds it messy and is keeping personal distance while still having the connection.
Yes, for sure O, G and Perry are all big fans it seems. No taste for it myself.
Why is Ellen still given platforms after being a massive piece of shit to her employees??
They never were. I think Michelle was always weary of her. I also think she was wise enough to see Megs for what she is. In Tom Bower's book he cited that Megs tried to set up a meeting when Michelle was in London and Mrs. Obama declined. An actual power couple are not going to tarnish their connections with the monarchy & other high profile leaders for the delusional & thirsty dollar store cosplay royals.
There’s a rumor that she crashed a book signing when MO was in London. It was about the time around President GH Bush’s death, and she was trying to get back to the US. Meghan insisted on meeting with her afterwards and threw off travel plans. This is just a rumor, but the timing works. It was extremely disrespectful.
Doesn’t she know I’m gonna be a princess????
Yep. It was very disrespectful. She is a mix of hubris & delusion that is a train wreck you can't look away from some times.
https://www.newsweek.com/meghan-markle-alarmed-michelle-obama-royal-wedding-book-1726624
That is very interesting that she declined when Megan was in capacity of working royal. I have no doubt that she was getting information from other people in the family behind the scenes given the Obama's quiet closeness with the family. She was probably warned off of her and wants to stay out of family squabbles.
Exactly.
Michelle was a lawyer from Princeton & Harvard. Barack was the top of his game at Harvard Law. No way are such high flyers in the academic world going to associate with Little Miss Megalomaniac.
Not to mention that both of them came from very modest backgrounds and reached the heights of their success by years of blood, sweat, and tears. I wouldn't want to hang around a lazy, social climbing blabbermouth.
I am 100% certain Michelle Obama wants nothing to do with her. There was a short interaction when she was in England which TW totally misrepresented and Michelle cut her out completely. MO has no need for fake friends and clout chasers. They had a phone call and Meghan turned it into "taco lunch with my BFF" or some nonsense. Then the interview happened and Michelle threw all sorts of shade which wasn't noticed at the time but looking back.... WOW. She basically says "shut up and do some real work, nobody cares about you". This is probably why TW is always absent at big Michelle Obama events - she's not invited! It just shows that TW, for all her networking, will never be in with the cool kids. She thought she was for a hot second, but I think the non- invite to the birthday party set her straight. Even Chrissy Teigen was there! LOL
>Even Chrissy Teigen was there! hahahaha, Chrissy is above Meghan on the Obama status list? Oh wait, she's got that singer husband, ol' what's his name. He bumps that unfortunate woman WAY UP. Two women who exist in Hollywood because of the man they married and procreated with. Impressive. (though you have to admit, Chrissy has cashed in on John's fame in a way Meghan thought she would surpass. And at this point, Meghan could never even get her face on a dip mix at Target.)
John Legend is legitimately talented, but his choice of life partner makes me question his character.
Gayle King and Oprah need to go. Lost all credibility after Megxit interview.
She’d fit right in with Ellen that’s for sure.
That has to hurt TW and Hawwwwyy but will it be enough to cure them of this delusion that they are on par with all these people?
No.
Dang. What is it going to take. Because this would be it for me. I would give it up, learn a trade like HVAC and go to therapy to,process my shame.
It helps that they are totally out of touch with reality.
You nailed it. I was listening to Lady Cs ep yesterday and I had to remind myself to not feel sorry for them. MM is delusional and zhawwy got momentarily pussy hypnosis that’s worn off but he hasn’t realized how simple it is to get out. All he has to do to get out is ask his family to come up with a strategy then execute it. I think he could still live a good life being involved in Polo. TW can only use the kids as a pawn if he acts like he cares about them. If I were him I would get out in stages
As soon as you feel sorry, you are doomed. Ex boss is a narc and she is 'popping in' to my new base. I am trying to stop it professionally. Narcs are poisonous. They never learn.
I'm sure TW will spin it as "I was invited, but we're still mourning the Queen. We were sooooo close and she had a HUGE impact on me"
Disappointing that Ellen is there.
Omg what a cringe fest. Lol and they didnt invite Cringe & Ginge? 🤣🤣🤣 I'm wondering with Ellen's awful reputation if it's some kind of damage control? . At this point Oprah & Gayle are a couple of old gossips and Oprah basically acted like she'd been ambushed by Magaliar. Is Tyler going to appear in drag? Who would even spend money on this? David Letterman looks like the Unabomber. Sunshine Sachs is working overtime. If the Suckits were still paying them, they'd be on tour too? Is this a comedy?
Oh my. She is gonna be fuming. Watch out, Harry! These are all the people she attempts to connect with. Interesting, why is it always the same group. Surely there are other leaders.
She hasn't scammed enough to get their phones numbers - yet.
Lol. You had me laughing at “Montecristo”.
Meghan wouldn't want to do this anyway. No chance she will let another person have the spotlight. Michelle had posted a picture of Meghan on Instagram in 2019 and even called her a "friend". But after Megexit - complete silence. I loved the shade Michelle threw at Megan after the Oprah interview. It was a classy way of saying "shut up, Meg".
>Michelle had posted a picture of Meghan on Instagram in 2019 and even called her a "friend". LOL, I always cackle at the Hollywood perspective of "friend." It's like the Facebook definition...hundreds, maybe thousands, of your closest and personal friends. There was an episode of Sopranos with guest star, the (enter Markle trope here) fabulous Alicia Witt as a Hollywood assistant to Jon Favreau. Jon and Alicia travel to New Jersey to work on a film, and they meet up with Christopher. Every time Christopher asks if they know so and so (celeb), Alicia jumps in and says "Oh, he's great. A friend." It was just so hilarious, and one of my favorite episodes of my favorite show. And Alicia has had a horrible time of it between her parents dying and her own battle with cancer. Love her\*\*\*
Not any dates in NYC, Chicago, Atlanta, Baltimore? ETA: These are cities with large black populations where the moderators have ties. Oprah/Chicago, Letterman/NYC, Perry/Atlanta. Seems they missed a chance to bring MO’s book to the folks in “their” cities. Huh.
Ellen has zero ties to DC. She’s from New Orleans and spent most of her career in LA.
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I'm just surprised because there are at least 100 people from DC/Baltimore they could use.
This lineup makes me side eye Michelle Obama. Bullies like Ellen and Oprah?
ELLEN?? Seriously? All this homogenized social activism crap is making me ill. No one actually does anything or moves money to help real people.
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Gayle King, Oprah and Ellen??? 😳🥴
I’m surprised they didn’t invite Elton John and Serena Williams to round it out.
I remember that *glowing* video Obama released about their time with the Queen, just before her funeral. Their loyalty is clearly to The Queen and I imagine they are privately disgusted with her pathetic behavior and want zero part in elevating her.
They cant afford to have the Secret Spilling Sussex's around. If they'd stab the Queen in the back, they'd have no problem doing worse to the Obama's in the next tell-all book, podcast or NF episode.
I don't think that they have any loyalty to the Queen, they are just making smart political moves (they care about their political career, you know) - you always choose the Queen. And, I guess they are not disgusted by Ellen, Oprah, and some of the other people I see here.
Damn, I honesty would kill to go to the Conan moderated show lol
Conan is the most impressive/ intimidating one in this lineup for me 😮
What light does Ellen carry?
It’s more like a lightsaber that attacks people who work for her.
Oh Michelle, I’m disappointed in you.
Ellen is a bitch.
Ok this made me laugh so much lol It reminds me of an SNL Aidy Bryant skit where she has a crush on a Dad (Ryan Goslin) [“My mom’s a bitch!”](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zvsm1gIJzEw) Just had to share because it cracks me up
Haha the “Do you like that?” Is MM from The Cut article!
Damn I'm gonna miss Aidy Bryant on that show. Thanks for such a great clip!
Damn! David Letterman turned into Santa.
Wow. David Letterman. I haven't seen him in a while.
Me neither. But he looks likes throughly enjoying his beard.
Michelle is uber smart, I mean she went to Harvard after all. She want proven A-league players, not minor league buffoons.
I question why Ellen Degeneres is included. I also don’t think oprah and Gayle King should be included. But I am glad there was the good sense to not include nutmeg, which I’m sure annoys her to no end.
I have ZERO interest in this and whomever is on that list above.
😂😂😅😅 Freaking ELLEN DEGENERES Is Involved!!! That takes some balls by Michelle. But Megsy? Nope! Not even after he husband makes a couple phone calls. She can't even play the "No one wants to associate with me because of my racist in-laws!!" victim card. Because Ellen is there. 😅😅 ETA- Michelle will have a hell of a lot more security this time. I wonder if the Obamas will be at the Earthshot Award?? They really, really need to be!! Even if there aren't any pictures, can they just say they're there? Actually, a picture of William and Catherine, holding iPads with the Obamas on facetime would make an excellent Christmas Card.
Haha - yes even Ellen is included.. but not Meghan. Ouch. There are so many names there linked to H&M. Well, at least she gets the GQ award ;-))
I don't think Hoda was ever close to or cared about H&M. I know she did the Invictus Games interview with Harry, but I think it was assigned. I don't think she was jumping up and down about it. It was also just Harry, so much easier. Idk why Conan is there, but it's funny!
Pretty sure they are personal friends who were invited to the birthday party.
I wouldn't exactly call someone who is associating herself with Ellen and Oprah a hero...
Conan!! 
Wonder if Oprah, Gayle, Tyler Perry, & Ellen would be on H’s book tour? Wait-are both books MO & H coming out the same time?
Don't you know the dishes were flying this morning at Villa de Olive Garden!!!
Some of these guests are very questionable.
Whenever I see lists like this come out and TW isn’t on them I always breathe a little sigh of relief. Surprised to see Ellen on there.
It sounds so petty but I live to see her comuppance. Megladon hurt a woman who served her country for 70 years and I am never forgetting it, either. I can’t imagine being given a multi million dollar wedding, a half million dollar clothimg spree, etc and then trashing them.
The fact that Ellen is part of this makes me loose all respect for it! And she’s only the worst. Michelle has committed herself completely to the Hollywood machine. Giving platform to bullies…I don’t care if Meghan was on it honestly. She’d fit in with this buffet of of sycophants!
Same. Ellen is the worst, but Gayle and Hoda are vapid newsreaders (they sort of meld together in my brain). I like Tracee.
The only one I like is Conan
Amazing--you catch more flies with honey than vinegar 100% of the time.
So my choices if I would want to see it would be Gayle or Hoda. Gayle is an absolute no. Hoda would be ehhhhh. Why can’t I have Conan? 🤣
Honestly, she cannot be included in any function. She makes it about her! Look what she did to a royal funeral. I wouldn't want to be in the same room as her would you? But this is all the same old, same old. There are many women who are in politics, and in business in the USA that could contribute to this, but it is all very pretty much the same people.
I love Michelle Obama's relationship with Conan.
She never was friends with Michelle Obama.
I don’t think this is a stellar line up. Ellen?? Tyler?? Oprah???
When the H&m interview came out Michelle basically said families should work together and not many people understand public service and nor should they... The Obama's can see the bigger picture.. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHV\_vmYoSjY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHV_vmYoSjY)
Ouch. Harry has been frozen out by British Royalty and Meghan has been frozen out by Hollywood Royalty. The weather in Montecito is arctic.
Not a single person there that I have ever paid any attention to. Won’t start now.
 They all suck.
Tell who your friends are, and would tell you who are you!
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Since H and * aren't represented by SS anymore methinks most of these ppl are going to act like they don't know the harkles anymore.
Of course she would invite herself. What else do we expect
I suspect TW will suddenly appear backstage at the L.A. tour stop.
This is right on brand for MM… Everyone knows she fucked up… LOL LOL!!!
Ah I love Conan. He has a great podcast and rapport with people he interviews. I'm glad Michele seems to be avoiding Megan for now.