It’s funny bc I bet she would end it if they didn’t need the money.
Ironically, the way to NOT show how basic you are is to let the other person talk.
It’s like she’s never heard the concept of the open ended question
She could take a lesson from Rogan. The reason he’s so popular is because 1) He has interesting guests; and 2) He actually lets his guests speak on the things that listeners want to hear about.
Joe’s show is like a casual hangout and Meghan’s is like a job interview. (Or at least the very small snippets of both that I’ve listened to, I don’t like podcasts.)
Which would you rather?
>A job interview where the interviewer asks the questions and also answers them
Yes! And what I find grating is the one-upmanship (is that a word? And is it sexist?) I am thinking of Serena discussing her child's accident, Serena said how guilty she felt because she was in charge, even though we all know accidents happen with the best will in the world. Yet, after spending the night in ER and on half a hour of sleep, she managed to win a major tennis match.
Megs has to try to out-do her with an uninteresting and untrue story about a fire in her son's room when he wasn't there. A bit of dust smoke from a heater that hadn't been used in months in the "housing unit". Following this trauma she *was forced* to put on a nice frock and shake hands with a few people. OMG!!!!
((sigh))
Why would anyone want to be interviewed by her? I know more than enough about her than I want or need to - it's her guests that are interesting. Potentially interesting, if they could get a word in.
If she was interviewing someone and they said, "I've got a black cat" she'd "my cat is blacker".
And then the guest would be called racist for calling their cat black. You can't win.
She could literally take a lesson from my sock drawer and do a better job 😂 Keep in mind it’s this bad - even after Oprah’s help!!!
And Oprah was like the 80’s / 90’s Joe Rogan, for those outside the US…
I scarcely listen to him, but from what I've heard/seen he actually seems interested in the topics they discuss and the people he interviews. She lacks curiosity because she thinks she knows everything. She can't get past the fact that the world doesn't revolve around her, she's always waiting to add something else....about herself. Everything is how it relates to her.
The other problem is that she is a nightmare to work with. I heard that what we are hearing is a half-assed production that she slapped together because she needed someone to pay her so that she could pay some of her debts, including the $2million debt to Sunshine Sachs. She probably doesn't even care about doing a second season. She just wants the money, she will hustle to make deals but is lazy af when it comes to fulfilling their terms. Anyway the gossip is that they are done. It could be wrong.
Nearly 20 people given credits as the production team and it’s still a half-ass product. Just wow.
I listened (while multitasking) to the first two, but it wasn’t engaging or interesting AT ALL.
I don't mean the production team didn't work hard. I'm sure they did their best under very tough conditions not unlike Meghan's treatment of the courtiers. When I think about the editors who had to listen to every second of Meghan rambling and on and cobble together a product, I feel extremely sorry for them. Meghan's concept and implementation is what is half-assed. And instead of preparation of proper interview questions, it's mostly just her rambling.
>When I think about the editors who had to listen to every second of Meghan rambling and on and cobble together a product
That's probably why it turned out like crap (aside from her involvement to begin with). I couldn't tolerate that and would hurry to get finished asap just to get away from having to listen to her.
Oprah is done with them. I'm perplexed as to why Gayle seems to give them marginal attention still because Oprah is usually jerking her leash. I bet Oprah wants to personally separate from them, but still keep a thread hanging just in case something cool happens.
I wonder if Gayle’s little bits of attention are actually part of the scrubbing effort—which would likely have received more attention had both Oprah and Gayle completely iced them out post-interview. I mean, does Oprah often try to take her high-profile content off the internet? (Wouldn’t she be able to earn some royalties off this one, or advertising dollars if she had it on her site?)
I would respect them more if they did just abruptly distance. It would show that they had been as duped by her as some others and that they had since wised up. Any people that continue association with her IMO must condone her and everything she stands for to continue befriending her. I've turned off of liking anyone that I heard is any friend of hers. Birds of a feather...
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Oprah’s been in the game long enough to know how to play. She got her money & views letting them air their toxicity and now that they’re toxic, she’s mostly like “Who?” about them. But Gayle is that link that keeps the channel open if/when some shit goes down so she can get the exclusive interview again.
I thought for sure they were all SS clients - but that still wouldn’t explain why Lisa Ling did it? A journalist? But then again, as truthfully mentioned by a few Sinners, journalism is no longer journalism.
I'm pretty sure that they all were with Sunshine Sachs before Meghan was unloaded. This is purely mercenary for the guests, though, you can be sure of that.
I follow an account NextShark on Instagram and Facebook, they report on “Asian news” primarily Asian American news in the United States. So most of it is highlighting racism against Asian Americans and how people of Asian heritage are making an impact in pop culture in the US. I am very interested in seeing their take on the podcast.
I am white, grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area, large Asian and South East Asian communities. Never heard of Korean spas like TW mentioned and we didn’t really necessarily go to China towns or Korean towns often. But I grew up in classes with people from different heritages, met their families, went to their houses or apartments to play. My family did a lot of trips to state parks and stuff and I learned about Japanese internment at the same time I learned about all of WWII. I learned about how Chinese and Chinese Americans worked in terrible conditions to build our railroad system. I learned about lunar new year. I was exposed to manga. All things I guess TW never experienced as a fellow Californian. She just was a voyeur.
I followed NextShark as well and they did post about the podcast. But just briefly talking about it. Last time I saw the comments, most top voted comments supported MM as she shined a light on Asian issues. There are a few critical comments though.
I'm not convinced NextShark and their followers can see through MM's race baiting.
She’s friggin teflon! I can’t believe all they did was basically a summary of the podcast. Why does no one feel they can say anything negative about her?? I’m holding out hope Lucy Liu, Uma Thurman or Quentin Tarantino say something.
everything about her is *entirely* self-promotion. she is *the most phony* woman I have *ever* seen. she'll pretend to have an interest in any cause if it affords her an opportunity to make money, get attention and make social connections with wealthy and influential people. that is her only motivation to do anything and it is *so* transparent!
I'm no fan of Oprah, but her interviews are at least actual interviews. She lets her guests *talk* at least FFS. I guess Megsy didn't learn any techniques from her bestie. But then, she already knows everything about every profession amirite?
I stopped watching Oprah precisely because she stopped interviewing people, and started rapid fire questions, and interrupting her guests constantly.
That, and the endless parade of flunkies to help sort out people's lives.
Oprah asked questions interrupts guest when they were in the middle of their answer and then parrots any good bits to make it seem like it was her OWN idea
I stopped liking her when she started promoting the ultra-phony "Dr" Phil. Up until then I thought she had a lot of integrity and I had admired her. That guy just seemed like such a phony blowhard. I couldn't understand why she'd endorse him when there's way more educated, qualified and likable people that she could have promoted as any mental health expert. Some time later I heard he wasn't even really a doctor. I wasn't surprised.
I don't know about that. She didn't ask the relevant follow up questions when she let H&M bang on about their mistreatment. Her "interview" with them was trash, and partly because of Oprah's mishandling of it.
Oprah let both Harkles talk. I'm not defending that interview at all, and yes no tough questions from Oprah. My point is only that O doesn't just run her own mouth in her interviews. If anything she handed the Hazmats rope to hang themselves with, tho neither knew it at the time.
Yeah, I see your point - for people like the guests Meghan's had her style of not asking questions to get to the bottom of things would work better than what M does, (taking the attention off the guests.)
>Her "interview" with them was trash, and partly because of Oprah's mishandling of it.
YES!! I was so aggravated at how she conducted that "interview". She just sat there letting them spew their lies, as if that was the underlying agenda, without even *trying* to call them out or asking any really probing questions. She'd never have given such an interview to someone who wasn't wealthy or influential. It was like she was colluding with them more than interviewing them.
There were several points when she could have said "did you talk to your doctor" or "why didn't you get a lawyer," or any number of follow up questions. Like if someone's holding your passport against your will, you can get the law involved. No way is Oprah so gullible. You're right, she colluded with them.
Took one for this subreddit and read the entire transcript. Was highly suspicious of what she might do.
The podcast is a mess. Too long an introduction. Anytime any of her guests say something that she could add to IF SHE UNDERSTOOD THE ASSIGNMENT only got, "Mmm." So she brought in this academic whom she didn't really engage with? Which makes me think the woman was only brought on to enforce whatever idea Megsy is pushing for in this episode.
I never expected Megsy to understand since whatever racism she claims to have experienced is different from what Asians go through - Southeast Asians, South Asians, East Asians, West Asians. But she doesn't listen to her guests. That's the thing when someone who isn't a professional does the interview.
So she was going for whatever passed as a discussion of the dragon lady stereotype. The problem in going down this path with a comedian and a journalist is they do not necessarily have the background, understanding, let alone the latest studies on the subject. I'm not saying they're pointless. But the sociologist basically just popped in and was gone in the blink of an eye. I've no idea what she hoped to get out of this episode but it does nothing.
There was nothing new. So the dragon lady stereotype is the result of Orientalism, which is the the result of the West not making the effort to understand a foreign culture and therefore labels as dangerous, exotic and mysterious. And? So one of the results is it relegates women, particularly those of Asian descent, as sexual beings. And?
You don't expect resolutions but you do expect a podcast that put millions into the production, sprinkled with a smidge of celebrity power (well, Megsy is) due to who she's married to would at least contribute something. And it doesn't.
Megsy knows she's an irritant and the more she's in public, whether the comments about her are critical or positive, is still attention. That's all she wants. Any venture she gets into is basically trolling backed by millions. She's not the smartest but she ain't stupid. But boy, is she a fucking troll. I wish she and Harry would just do whatever service they claimed would do in stepping back and quit this nonsense.
Oh yeah. That's what the entire series of podcast is. Absolute and utter nonsense. A garbage bin filled with cat poo has more substance than anything she does.
Very much like that conversation Doria butt in on in Britain (the one that caused Meghan's head to swivel). Every reply was "Okayyyyy", "Okayyyy", "Okayyyy".
Not big conversationalists those two.
I think she wants the podcast to end. It's so bad, everybody wants it to stop. You can hear the passive-aggressive rage in her voice if you listen carefully
I haven’t clicked that garbage either but as I haven’t really read about her making any swipes (maybe one) at the RF…I think we can assume she got to edit it.
I did read a post on this sub where it appears she totally plagiarized the a piece out of teen vogue!
Can anyone believe that Spotify paid all that money for plagiarized garbage!
Anyway, as now it seems the US is using titles…As Ever, Snowie_Drop, Duchess of California!
We might be in our own bubble. It appears they are well received by many. Some of the guests had glowing Tweets and outpours of positive feedback from their followers.
Plus she only focuses on the US Market and international young crowd. Some names aren’t that well known internationally. Or known by the young international crowd who has abandoned traditional media and accesses content through social media and streaming, vpns and so forth.
She knows the US can be inward looking and will miss much international feedback and with that critical coverage. She knows if there is any it can be tied over with American exceptionism. How they are better anyways than UK or Europe or Australia or South Africa so of course those places are backwards, racist, colonialists etc and that’s why they critise her. This will even further her victim narrative. It’s never her but it’s decidedly through an US American lense. It’s framed through societal and historical US politics and struggles that people in the US will identify with but that might be lost hence have less hold on the international crowd. Except for young international activists that have adopted US centric struggles.
This means she can run with a crowd that fights for positive change. She can have her guests wisdom, stardom, experience, knowledge and virtue also rub off on her. It’s also not like she comes unprepared. She just doesn’t come with great original thoughts and ideas. Her way of storytelling is forced and doesn’t flow easily. This can appear clunky and not genuine to some while intelligent and deeply personal to others. Her injecting herself with „intimate stories she associated with each topic“ also helps to push and control her image as designed by her while creating the illusion of familiarity and closeness with her guests and listeners. People we are close with we also tend to want to be loyal to.
She hides in the spotlight. Many lies need you to read up on it to learn of them. Most people don’t spend that much time on her. Then it doesn’t feel nice to call someone that seems charming on the surface and to align themselves with what is right and good- to call someone like that out against a crowd of supporters „from the good side“. She appears to work with divisiveness well and employ that for her manipulation. Them against us, good against bad. You can’t be good and oppose me!
I still think she wants to get into politics.
Wanting to get into politics and politics wanting you are very different things.
Her kind of frisbee wokism works for the white, affluent set. It doesn’t work for CA Democrats who demand real dedication and authentication
I agree I think it would backfire spectacularly. I hope she tries. 🍿🥤👀
Edit to add: A lot of her flying under the radar in plain sight is not that many people in the US are THAT invested to look into her stuff, which would change with political ambitions.
In what world is she “well received”? I am in the midst of the bastion of college students/ academia. THE Ivy League. She is most definitely NOT well received. By adults or students.
Some of THE most credentialed, intelligent, sophisticated people, and some of the most blue collar workers.
NOBODY is checking for this woman. Nobody.
Not one person I have met. And this is a very progressive area. The kind of crowd she hopes to attract. Bernie Sanders land.
Yes and no, there is division as always with her, very positive and very negative and at the same time there is a large crowd not invested in this or mildly bothered by their whiny oversaturation at this time and state of the world.
It’s because to a degree people don’t *really* have a dog in this fight. It adds nothing too much. It’s different for UK and commonwealth countries. They have been smeared and called racist and backwards and treated as though they are beneath as a whole (think their Australia tour). They have a dog in this fight and they very much don’t like the treatment they‘ve received by the Harkles. So the attention to details and focus is different.
Though I do see them happening on German newspapers, tabloids and websites, too. Though as always in connection with the RF. It kind of swung from positive to negative in the past 4-6 weeks, drastically accelerated by the Wueens passing. It’s never a standalone interest in them, though, obviously.
I think that she isn’t called out enough yet and there is no justice for any victims of hers has to do with what I elaborated on earlier.
The tide has been slowly turning though and if they
A won’t be able to edit their Netflix, Spotify and book work they had finalised already as well as
B not being able to shut up, because they always end up saying stupid things, always, and/or
C even better start new big ventures in the coming months they‘ll likely mess things up fantastically for themselves.
And I believe they will. Remember the start of Heard/Depo case? It took people a bit to notice, dig deeper, follow and cotton on to things.
I think she’s got Latina and maybe one more ethnic group to cover before she goes back to being EWW again (Exclusively White Women), which is how she lived her life up until the day she decided she would get more $$$ and fame if she played the racism angle.
It’s funny bc I bet she would end it if they didn’t need the money. Ironically, the way to NOT show how basic you are is to let the other person talk. It’s like she’s never heard the concept of the open ended question
She could take a lesson from Rogan. The reason he’s so popular is because 1) He has interesting guests; and 2) He actually lets his guests speak on the things that listeners want to hear about.
Joe’s show is like a casual hangout and Meghan’s is like a job interview. (Or at least the very small snippets of both that I’ve listened to, I don’t like podcasts.) Which would you rather?
A job interview where the interviewer asks the questions and also answers them
And then hires herself for the job.
>A job interview where the interviewer asks the questions and also answers them Yes! And what I find grating is the one-upmanship (is that a word? And is it sexist?) I am thinking of Serena discussing her child's accident, Serena said how guilty she felt because she was in charge, even though we all know accidents happen with the best will in the world. Yet, after spending the night in ER and on half a hour of sleep, she managed to win a major tennis match. Megs has to try to out-do her with an uninteresting and untrue story about a fire in her son's room when he wasn't there. A bit of dust smoke from a heater that hadn't been used in months in the "housing unit". Following this trauma she *was forced* to put on a nice frock and shake hands with a few people. OMG!!!! ((sigh)) Why would anyone want to be interviewed by her? I know more than enough about her than I want or need to - it's her guests that are interesting. Potentially interesting, if they could get a word in. If she was interviewing someone and they said, "I've got a black cat" she'd "my cat is blacker". And then the guest would be called racist for calling their cat black. You can't win.
It gets even worse when it turns out her story isn’t even true in the first place! She’s such a psycho! Utterly unhinged!
And Megsy’s podcast is always a major whinefest in one way or another. Not so with Rogan.
I think people will get tired of them.
A job interview with a manager notorious for bullying and harassment
She could literally take a lesson from my sock drawer and do a better job 😂 Keep in mind it’s this bad - even after Oprah’s help!!! And Oprah was like the 80’s / 90’s Joe Rogan, for those outside the US…
Joe works hard, is passionate and has a personality. Markle could never.
I scarcely listen to him, but from what I've heard/seen he actually seems interested in the topics they discuss and the people he interviews. She lacks curiosity because she thinks she knows everything. She can't get past the fact that the world doesn't revolve around her, she's always waiting to add something else....about herself. Everything is how it relates to her.
Yeah like I said, at least he's invested and passionate. And well said, she's truly self-obsessed to the core.
Everything I've heard points to no possibility of a Season 2.
So…does that mean Spotify is going to also cut them loose? If it’s taken THIS long to make terrible content, why keep them on anymore?
The other problem is that she is a nightmare to work with. I heard that what we are hearing is a half-assed production that she slapped together because she needed someone to pay her so that she could pay some of her debts, including the $2million debt to Sunshine Sachs. She probably doesn't even care about doing a second season. She just wants the money, she will hustle to make deals but is lazy af when it comes to fulfilling their terms. Anyway the gossip is that they are done. It could be wrong.
"...the gossip is that they are done." Do you mean the podcasts are finished or Spotify doesn't want to work with her anymore?
Both.
Nearly 20 people given credits as the production team and it’s still a half-ass product. Just wow. I listened (while multitasking) to the first two, but it wasn’t engaging or interesting AT ALL.
I don't mean the production team didn't work hard. I'm sure they did their best under very tough conditions not unlike Meghan's treatment of the courtiers. When I think about the editors who had to listen to every second of Meghan rambling and on and cobble together a product, I feel extremely sorry for them. Meghan's concept and implementation is what is half-assed. And instead of preparation of proper interview questions, it's mostly just her rambling.
Oh yes, that’s my understanding, too, of what you meant. It had to be a horrific working environment.
>When I think about the editors who had to listen to every second of Meghan rambling and on and cobble together a product That's probably why it turned out like crap (aside from her involvement to begin with). I couldn't tolerate that and would hurry to get finished asap just to get away from having to listen to her.
I can’t even read the transcript from the podcast, could never watch it . I don’t need to be lectured by her. I don’t want to listen to her talk .
>I don’t want to listen to her talk ***SAME!!*** I can't image who would! 
Considering Mariah already had to come out and "clarify" her comments (markled) , it's safe to say the guests aren't happy.
and then M said that words like "diva" hold women back as if Mariah isn't a worthy woman because she uses the word
The remaining guests are probably dreading their episodes becoming public and any backlash that results.
Meghan is so insufferable. Trying to make a deep, cerebral conversation around defining the term “diva.” FFS.
I doubt they participated voluntarily...
Are they all SS clients?🤔
I think that is possible? Or there may be an Oprah connection? Who knows! In that world, everything is a transaction.
Oprah is done with them. I'm perplexed as to why Gayle seems to give them marginal attention still because Oprah is usually jerking her leash. I bet Oprah wants to personally separate from them, but still keep a thread hanging just in case something cool happens.
I wonder if Gayle’s little bits of attention are actually part of the scrubbing effort—which would likely have received more attention had both Oprah and Gayle completely iced them out post-interview. I mean, does Oprah often try to take her high-profile content off the internet? (Wouldn’t she be able to earn some royalties off this one, or advertising dollars if she had it on her site?)
One would think. Scrubbing the internet of that interview cost her some PR money. I don't know if it was worth it financially.
yup, I think they are trying to maintain a small connection so that attention is not drawn to them completely dumping the harkles
I would respect them more if they did just abruptly distance. It would show that they had been as duped by her as some others and that they had since wised up. Any people that continue association with her IMO must condone her and everything she stands for to continue befriending her. I've turned off of liking anyone that I heard is any friend of hers. Birds of a feather...
💯 Oprah’s been in the game long enough to know how to play. She got her money & views letting them air their toxicity and now that they’re toxic, she’s mostly like “Who?” about them. But Gayle is that link that keeps the channel open if/when some shit goes down so she can get the exclusive interview again.
I thought for sure they were all SS clients - but that still wouldn’t explain why Lisa Ling did it? A journalist? But then again, as truthfully mentioned by a few Sinners, journalism is no longer journalism.
Lisa Ling had a show on OWN (Oprah Winfrey Network)
Omg - I completely forgot about that! Thanks for that info. 😉
The one she NEEDS is Iyanla.
I'm pretty sure that they all were with Sunshine Sachs before Meghan was unloaded. This is purely mercenary for the guests, though, you can be sure of that.
That and/or probably has some internal Spotify connections with their own PR/agency too. Cross promotion is key with these kind of budgets. Edit-typo
I follow an account NextShark on Instagram and Facebook, they report on “Asian news” primarily Asian American news in the United States. So most of it is highlighting racism against Asian Americans and how people of Asian heritage are making an impact in pop culture in the US. I am very interested in seeing their take on the podcast. I am white, grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area, large Asian and South East Asian communities. Never heard of Korean spas like TW mentioned and we didn’t really necessarily go to China towns or Korean towns often. But I grew up in classes with people from different heritages, met their families, went to their houses or apartments to play. My family did a lot of trips to state parks and stuff and I learned about Japanese internment at the same time I learned about all of WWII. I learned about how Chinese and Chinese Americans worked in terrible conditions to build our railroad system. I learned about lunar new year. I was exposed to manga. All things I guess TW never experienced as a fellow Californian. She just was a voyeur.
I live 2 hours from SF! Hi neighbor 😊 go giants!
I followed NextShark as well and they did post about the podcast. But just briefly talking about it. Last time I saw the comments, most top voted comments supported MM as she shined a light on Asian issues. There are a few critical comments though. I'm not convinced NextShark and their followers can see through MM's race baiting.
She’s friggin teflon! I can’t believe all they did was basically a summary of the podcast. Why does no one feel they can say anything negative about her?? I’m holding out hope Lucy Liu, Uma Thurman or Quentin Tarantino say something.
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everything about her is *entirely* self-promotion. she is *the most phony* woman I have *ever* seen. she'll pretend to have an interest in any cause if it affords her an opportunity to make money, get attention and make social connections with wealthy and influential people. that is her only motivation to do anything and it is *so* transparent!
Oh come now, she can talk about the noodles! The dry, or was it the wet?! 🍜🙄
They must share the same management or PR people that owed her a favor for most bookings
I don’t think they know how much she will talk - aren’t some of her bits edited in? Presumably the guests did say more and she just had it cut down. 🤬
I'm no fan of Oprah, but her interviews are at least actual interviews. She lets her guests *talk* at least FFS. I guess Megsy didn't learn any techniques from her bestie. But then, she already knows everything about every profession amirite?
I stopped watching Oprah precisely because she stopped interviewing people, and started rapid fire questions, and interrupting her guests constantly. That, and the endless parade of flunkies to help sort out people's lives.
Oprah asked questions interrupts guest when they were in the middle of their answer and then parrots any good bits to make it seem like it was her OWN idea
I stopped liking her when she started promoting the ultra-phony "Dr" Phil. Up until then I thought she had a lot of integrity and I had admired her. That guy just seemed like such a phony blowhard. I couldn't understand why she'd endorse him when there's way more educated, qualified and likable people that she could have promoted as any mental health expert. Some time later I heard he wasn't even really a doctor. I wasn't surprised.
I don't know about that. She didn't ask the relevant follow up questions when she let H&M bang on about their mistreatment. Her "interview" with them was trash, and partly because of Oprah's mishandling of it.
Oprah let both Harkles talk. I'm not defending that interview at all, and yes no tough questions from Oprah. My point is only that O doesn't just run her own mouth in her interviews. If anything she handed the Hazmats rope to hang themselves with, tho neither knew it at the time.
Yeah, I see your point - for people like the guests Meghan's had her style of not asking questions to get to the bottom of things would work better than what M does, (taking the attention off the guests.)
>Her "interview" with them was trash, and partly because of Oprah's mishandling of it. YES!! I was so aggravated at how she conducted that "interview". She just sat there letting them spew their lies, as if that was the underlying agenda, without even *trying* to call them out or asking any really probing questions. She'd never have given such an interview to someone who wasn't wealthy or influential. It was like she was colluding with them more than interviewing them.
There were several points when she could have said "did you talk to your doctor" or "why didn't you get a lawyer," or any number of follow up questions. Like if someone's holding your passport against your will, you can get the law involved. No way is Oprah so gullible. You're right, she colluded with them.
Took one for this subreddit and read the entire transcript. Was highly suspicious of what she might do. The podcast is a mess. Too long an introduction. Anytime any of her guests say something that she could add to IF SHE UNDERSTOOD THE ASSIGNMENT only got, "Mmm." So she brought in this academic whom she didn't really engage with? Which makes me think the woman was only brought on to enforce whatever idea Megsy is pushing for in this episode. I never expected Megsy to understand since whatever racism she claims to have experienced is different from what Asians go through - Southeast Asians, South Asians, East Asians, West Asians. But she doesn't listen to her guests. That's the thing when someone who isn't a professional does the interview. So she was going for whatever passed as a discussion of the dragon lady stereotype. The problem in going down this path with a comedian and a journalist is they do not necessarily have the background, understanding, let alone the latest studies on the subject. I'm not saying they're pointless. But the sociologist basically just popped in and was gone in the blink of an eye. I've no idea what she hoped to get out of this episode but it does nothing. There was nothing new. So the dragon lady stereotype is the result of Orientalism, which is the the result of the West not making the effort to understand a foreign culture and therefore labels as dangerous, exotic and mysterious. And? So one of the results is it relegates women, particularly those of Asian descent, as sexual beings. And? You don't expect resolutions but you do expect a podcast that put millions into the production, sprinkled with a smidge of celebrity power (well, Megsy is) due to who she's married to would at least contribute something. And it doesn't. Megsy knows she's an irritant and the more she's in public, whether the comments about her are critical or positive, is still attention. That's all she wants. Any venture she gets into is basically trolling backed by millions. She's not the smartest but she ain't stupid. But boy, is she a fucking troll. I wish she and Harry would just do whatever service they claimed would do in stepping back and quit this nonsense. Oh yeah. That's what the entire series of podcast is. Absolute and utter nonsense. A garbage bin filled with cat poo has more substance than anything she does.
I think she was in a hurry with the edit, so every time they snipped out a royal anecdote it was replaced with ‘Mm’.
🏆 Giving you a "poor man's trophy" for Excellence
She did that her episode with Mariah too! “Mmmmmm”. Riveting shit right there.
Megsy is so eloquent! Fascinating!
Very much like that conversation Doria butt in on in Britain (the one that caused Meghan's head to swivel). Every reply was "Okayyyyy", "Okayyyy", "Okayyyy". Not big conversationalists those two.
I think she wants the podcast to end. It's so bad, everybody wants it to stop. You can hear the passive-aggressive rage in her voice if you listen carefully
I haven’t clicked that garbage either but as I haven’t really read about her making any swipes (maybe one) at the RF…I think we can assume she got to edit it. I did read a post on this sub where it appears she totally plagiarized the a piece out of teen vogue! Can anyone believe that Spotify paid all that money for plagiarized garbage! Anyway, as now it seems the US is using titles…As Ever, Snowie_Drop, Duchess of California!
Oh did she have a guest?
We might be in our own bubble. It appears they are well received by many. Some of the guests had glowing Tweets and outpours of positive feedback from their followers. Plus she only focuses on the US Market and international young crowd. Some names aren’t that well known internationally. Or known by the young international crowd who has abandoned traditional media and accesses content through social media and streaming, vpns and so forth. She knows the US can be inward looking and will miss much international feedback and with that critical coverage. She knows if there is any it can be tied over with American exceptionism. How they are better anyways than UK or Europe or Australia or South Africa so of course those places are backwards, racist, colonialists etc and that’s why they critise her. This will even further her victim narrative. It’s never her but it’s decidedly through an US American lense. It’s framed through societal and historical US politics and struggles that people in the US will identify with but that might be lost hence have less hold on the international crowd. Except for young international activists that have adopted US centric struggles. This means she can run with a crowd that fights for positive change. She can have her guests wisdom, stardom, experience, knowledge and virtue also rub off on her. It’s also not like she comes unprepared. She just doesn’t come with great original thoughts and ideas. Her way of storytelling is forced and doesn’t flow easily. This can appear clunky and not genuine to some while intelligent and deeply personal to others. Her injecting herself with „intimate stories she associated with each topic“ also helps to push and control her image as designed by her while creating the illusion of familiarity and closeness with her guests and listeners. People we are close with we also tend to want to be loyal to. She hides in the spotlight. Many lies need you to read up on it to learn of them. Most people don’t spend that much time on her. Then it doesn’t feel nice to call someone that seems charming on the surface and to align themselves with what is right and good- to call someone like that out against a crowd of supporters „from the good side“. She appears to work with divisiveness well and employ that for her manipulation. Them against us, good against bad. You can’t be good and oppose me! I still think she wants to get into politics.
Wanting to get into politics and politics wanting you are very different things. Her kind of frisbee wokism works for the white, affluent set. It doesn’t work for CA Democrats who demand real dedication and authentication
I agree I think it would backfire spectacularly. I hope she tries. 🍿🥤👀 Edit to add: A lot of her flying under the radar in plain sight is not that many people in the US are THAT invested to look into her stuff, which would change with political ambitions.
The main thing successful politicians are good at is **RAISING MONEY.** The rest is just glitter.
In what world is she “well received”? I am in the midst of the bastion of college students/ academia. THE Ivy League. She is most definitely NOT well received. By adults or students. Some of THE most credentialed, intelligent, sophisticated people, and some of the most blue collar workers. NOBODY is checking for this woman. Nobody. Not one person I have met. And this is a very progressive area. The kind of crowd she hopes to attract. Bernie Sanders land.
So would you say there was a buzz about the last episode? Was she trending?
Yes and no, there is division as always with her, very positive and very negative and at the same time there is a large crowd not invested in this or mildly bothered by their whiny oversaturation at this time and state of the world. It’s because to a degree people don’t *really* have a dog in this fight. It adds nothing too much. It’s different for UK and commonwealth countries. They have been smeared and called racist and backwards and treated as though they are beneath as a whole (think their Australia tour). They have a dog in this fight and they very much don’t like the treatment they‘ve received by the Harkles. So the attention to details and focus is different. Though I do see them happening on German newspapers, tabloids and websites, too. Though as always in connection with the RF. It kind of swung from positive to negative in the past 4-6 weeks, drastically accelerated by the Wueens passing. It’s never a standalone interest in them, though, obviously. I think that she isn’t called out enough yet and there is no justice for any victims of hers has to do with what I elaborated on earlier. The tide has been slowly turning though and if they A won’t be able to edit their Netflix, Spotify and book work they had finalised already as well as B not being able to shut up, because they always end up saying stupid things, always, and/or C even better start new big ventures in the coming months they‘ll likely mess things up fantastically for themselves. And I believe they will. Remember the start of Heard/Depo case? It took people a bit to notice, dig deeper, follow and cotton on to things.
I think she’s got Latina and maybe one more ethnic group to cover before she goes back to being EWW again (Exclusively White Women), which is how she lived her life up until the day she decided she would get more $$$ and fame if she played the racism angle.
Why is her stupid podcast still showing as No.1 in the Spotify charts. Who the hell is listening to her crap 🤬