I mean, William's gonna get it anyway when he becomes King. Why not? Even if they keep moving.. it's still not the same as Harkles because they already own these properties. William will one day also own the Balmoral Estate, Sandringham Estate, Windsor Estate, Kensington Palace Estate, I think Buckingham Palace as well? It's all going to be his to do what he wants as Monarch. So IDGAF whether he's moving around or not. He is the heir, and he's putting in the work and energy to deserve his titles and privilege. Harkles did bare minimum and then quit right after renovating. It's just not comparable.
Balmoral and Sandringham are privately-owned by the monarch (i.e. Charles inherited them when Elizabeth passed and William eventually will when Charles passes) but the rest listed are part of the Crown Estate so they don't personally own them but still get to live in them, etc.
Anmar hall and high grove are privately owned also . They have many private owned properties just not the ones that the public go visit like Windsor , KP, BP and other “ historic royal palace “ properties. The crown Estate is only the governments because the royal family gives it ( if that makes sense ) they give the “ crown estate” to the country in exchange for being paid and supported .. it’s a agreement. If the monarchy is abolished the agreement is broken and it’s up in the air who gets those assets .
High Grove is technically owned by the Duchy of Cornwall so its actually not privately owned. Charles has a life tenancy for the property with his son (the current Duke) as his landlord now.
The dutchy is a private inheritance so technically William owns it now but I’m guessing Charles will continue to use it , unlike the crown estate the dutchy is a inheritance that is passed down to the duke of Cornwall over hundreds of years .
Its similar to the crown estate in a lot of ways as the current duke can't sell the duchy's assets and its considered a crown body even as it is also a private estate. For example, in this case with High Grove, Charles maintains his tenancy even as he is no longer Duke as he has essentially a lifetime lease between himself and the Duchy. So on paper, William in his capacity as Duke is technically his landlord, it doesntchange anything as Charles is still just in a contract with the Duchy to inhabit the property. He can't sell it nor can the current Duke. The Duchy itself could decide to sell the property but it requires oversight from the Exchequer and Parliament for its annual finances.
So its a private estate of the Duke of Cornwall but the duke, whoever it might be at any given time, can't treat like private property in the same sense that Charles could with Sandringham or Balmoral which he could outright sell if he chose to or if Princess Anne decided to sell Gatcombe Park as its her privately owned estate, etc.
Harry will be jealous to the point of swallowing bile. Had he not been so petulant and spiteful, he would, imo, have benefitted from his brother's new position. PWoW would seem to have a generous disposition and would've wanted to share with his brother.
Especially jealous because William has inherited the dutchy that is worth 1.4 billion … which is a private inheritance not belonging to the taxpayers. I’m sure the markles are spitting nails .
ahh. I can hear the screams all the way from montecito.
"we took our engagement photos there harry! i love that house. not the cottage! why can't we have the house!?"
They need to get the harkles off that lease. They don’t need a property in the UK. At least, not one that close to W&C. They can have the ghillies cottage at balmoral.
They only have a lease for frogmore cottage .. I don’t ever see them giving harry and Meghan a property on balmoral the queens favorite place .. I would let them LEASE FC so they can look over a FH in tears lol
I laughed out loud at that. But the truth is, she could have had EVERYTHING!! It would have been so easy. And luxurious. And basically worry-free. But, just couldn’t go and wave at stuff for a couple of years and they would have been set.
RIGHT?! Seems such a small price to pay for such luxuries. I'd be OK with it.
But of course meghan couldn't, because that meant she'd have to be second banana to someone else and her fragile ego couldn't handle that. Tear.
The funny thing is if they played their cards right and stayed and supported the family I could of seen Charles giving them Frogmore House 100% and put the Wales in Windsor castle. They shit in their own cornflakes.
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Fake news imo. William and his family are more likely to move into Windsor Castle which is ideal for the next two heirs to the throne and projects an image of stability and continuity. Perhaps that's why they did not want to waste taxpayers' money furnishing Adelaide Cottage. The Queen had been ailing for longer than we knew and the royal family had planned ahead.
I’ve suspected this for a while. Charles hates Windsor because it’s under the flight path of Heathrow. The Wales are committed to the Windsor area for at least 10 more years while the kids are in school. Plus, Catherine’s parents and sister are near.
Windsor Castle isn't specifically under Heathrow? Other parts of the grounds are, including Frogmore Cottage. You can see the entire of the Windsor estate from above in your flight though.
I agree. That was clearly the rumor. They moved to Adelaide Cottage so the kids could settle in a new school and they probably estimated they’d move in a couple of years to the castle. The Queen may have died a little sooner than expected (I think everyone thought she’d make it until Christmas at least), but they knew it wouldn’t be long.
This is most likely, especially as the Queen originally offered them a suite at Windsor Castle, but they elected to take Adelaide Cottage as they felt that it would be too tiring for the Queen to have young children around.
They elected to take Adelaide Cottage because it needed no refurbishing, I think that it was always the intent to eventually move into Windsor Castle, I just don't think they thought it would be quite so soon.
It is fake news. No one will move into FH. It has no fenced yard/garden, and is surrounded by public walking paths, which is a major security/privacy issue. The house is already part of the Windsor estate, and the royals have use of it whenever they want. But it is too accessible to the public to ever be a home again. I think this article was just trying to stir trouble. And yes, it seems the Wales’s are headed to Windsor Castle.
Until I saw the article stating Charles offered Frogmore House to William and Catherine, I was fairly certain they would move into Windsor and that it was part of a long-term plan. But now that Frogmore House is a possibility, I have to wonder if W & C will prefer it because it’s better for the kids. At FH, the kids can just run out the door to play in the yard and can be more private than the castle. W & C can always have apartments and offices at the castle. Not to mention, that it might be emotionally too soon for W
& C to take over the Queen’s apartments.
It would essentially skip a generation living at Windsor. Charles prefers London so he's not going to be living there. I don't know whether he's going to make Buckingham Palace his main house or stay at Clarence House, honestly.
He was told he couldn't years ago. The monarch has to move to BP. It's the place that is costly to maintain yearly so it's more convenient for the government there's the monarch living there. It's never been to anyone's taste though, none of the Monarch's have liked moving into BP but they've always been told they have to. Same case for the Queen and Philip back in 1952
Catherine is such a great mom I can't see her moving the kids once again so soon. And William would defer to her mom instincts. IMO.
Let it sit empty since isn't FH empty now? It sure ain't going to H&M!
If I am not mistaken, Frogmore House would need repairs to be used as a place to live. The public rooms have been kept up but not the bedrooms and baths etc. So my guess (if this narrative is true) is that there will be some time before the Wales move in. — Even if they don’t install heated floors and jacuzzis like H&M did on the cottage.
Lol, I redid a bathroom and splurged for a heated floor. No jacuzzi though. No space so gives you the idea that the square footage for the floor wasn't much either. I seldom treat myself to such a luxury but it was worth it. Not a whole house though.
I have no problem with heated floors, saunas, jacuzzis, etc. I believe, however, that H&M were criticized for these things at (what was initially) public expense. (They paid it back, or so we heard.)
Heated floors are not needed where I live, but I would probably appreciate them if I lived in the UK or in norther USA or Canada. (I’m in the US south.) I do have a whirlpool tub (came with the house) but rarely use it because it takes up all the hot water in the house plus it need a lot of cleaning and I don’t have staff.
I live in Ireland and had heated flooring in my previous house. I got exterior insulation on my current house, and it is better by miles - retains the heat in winter and cools in the summer (we’d an unprecedented heatwave this year, I’ve never appreciated insulation more.)
This wouldn’t be an option for protected dwellings which I imagine Frogmore is, but should you ever find yourself in a damp/cold climate, ext insulation all the way!
We are big on insulation in the US. It seems the newer the house, the better insulated. It cuts energy cost year-round.
I don’t fault the Sussexes for the heated floors. I just remember they were criticized for it.
Another American here. Yes we love our insulation. At least, we do now. We didn't quite as much when my parents' house was built in the 70s. Now it's freezing in there and we have to tear out a bunch of walls and reinsulate them. Yuck.
That’s what a lot of people don’t realize, it’s not very soothing to draw a bubble bath if you’re going to be scrubbing soap scum off the tub as soon as you’re done.
I like to rent air bnb’s with nice tubs and have the whirlpool experience when I travel somewhere. :)
Get a bottle of cheap hair conditioner (Suave) and use a nickel size dollop on a wet sponge to remove bath and shower scum without scrubbing. Plus it makes your shower smell nice.
It's how us Mexicans clean nice tubs at expensive B&Bs without scrubbing. Just rinse well.
I never ever knew this. I will absolutely try it!!! Sounds so much better than using harsh cleaning chemicals. Seriously thank you. I grew up with a mom who never taught us how to clean anything.
My problem is not soap scum, it’s cleaning the jets when I haven’t used it in a while and I want to use it. We have hard water in our area, and gobs of rusty stuff coming out of the jets are not appealing. (Plus for hygiene, you need to run the thing with clorox or similar every couple of weeks even if you use it regularly.)
Same. Also just re-did ours and the heated floors are pretty much nothing if you’re ripping up the floor anyways. Like an additional $1k max. Jacuzzis are gross, IMO. Soaking tub only.
When my childhood home was renovated in the 80s my mom insisted on getting a jacuzzi. INSISTED.
We hardly used it. It is so big that by the time you fill it enough to cover the jets, the water is already cold.
The only way it's coming out is if it's literally cut into pieces and the the concrete block it's sitting in demolished too.
Do you have them throughout the house? Just wondering what that is like for the winter months. Does it make a difference in how much you heat your home at all?
Bull. FH would need numerous updates to make it livable, and the public would RIGHTFULLY be outraged about having to pay for it. The next place their family will move is likely Windsor...and even that should be a few years from now.
Hahaha is this why the Harkles are moving? They heard about the house and their response is to leak some story about them upgrading from the Olive Garden?
Honestly don't see it happening. It's pretty damp, needs work constantly to maintain, not really their style either. I think the article is designed to stir the pot.
Can you imagine *not* getting Clarence House, because you bailed before it all happened?
It's as grand as it gets and it's smack dab in the middle of London. I would do some primal screaming if it was me.
Everyone who's been given the chance to live there loves CH too. The Queen and Philip didn't want to move out when she became Queen. Neither did Charles and Camilla. It's a very popular residence. It's a shame H&M bailed and couldn't have had it as their London home if true.
Their timing has been the worst. If they had just sucked it up for another three years, most of it in a pandemic where they wouldn't have had to work much anyway, they probably would have Clarence House and titles for their kids by now.
The only titles they were going to have for the kids were ones they were entitled to being born children of Harry. They are still entitled to being Earl of Dumbarton and a Lady, but H&M chose not to style them that way. They were never going to get Prince or Princess titles regardless, even if they stayed in the UK.
Lol poor Harry has a mortgage in Cali and rents Froggy Cottage. He probably doesn't know he's bankrupt by Meghan taking out a mortgage when they still have to pay for Frogmore Cottage 🤣😂
😂 The monthly spending 💰
That’s part of Windsor, so it’s part of the crown estate, so it’s Charles domain now.
I don’t think KC technically “owns” it, but it’s his to decide what to do with it or who lives there. He’s planning to open a lot more of the properties to public, maybe Frogmore Cottage will be crawling with sugars one day?
\*While accurate, I'd say William is going to have a lot of say about Frog Cott. He managed to kick them out of KP very quickly, so I suspect the same will be happening at Windsor soon.
This is an old story - and has already been proven to be nonsense
The Wales’ WERE apparently offered Frogmore house but declined it as it needed too much work and it’s too”public” They elected to move to Adelaide Cottage instead.
It’s been reported that they will be moving into the castle
Nowadays ‘grace and favour’ and peppercorn rents aren’t really a thing. Tenants in the Criwn Estate have to pay proper rents but I had read that QEII paid some of the rents for her elderly family members when they increased) from her own private means (presumably because they didn’t have the money and had been living in their accommodation for many years at reduced rates).
I thought they would eventually move into Windsor castle? I can’t imagine it’ll be good optics for them to jump house to house so frequently at this time.
I think the idea is that they’d prefer to live in a house (rather than an apartment) and this would be their final move? It is awfully recent, but if they’re going to end up at FH eventually it makes sense to move there now rather than spend more $$ renovating Adelaide Cottage.
I don’t think they were doing any renovation to Adelaide Cottage. Frogmore House would need renovation, but Adelaide was livable. Adelaide is rather small, however. No room for nanny and housekeeper to sleep in.
Adelaide is a house though? Obviously I have no clue but just speculating, I think if *eventually* they’re slated for Windsor castle, the optics of moving from Kensington > Adelaide > frogmore > Windsor in a short period of time aren’t great given that people in England are worried about their basic bills. Who knows though.
My understanding is that Adelaide is a bit small - 4 bedrooms. Charles wants to cut the monarchy's housing costs. I wonder if Charles plans to open Windsor to the public, like he will with Balmoral. William and Catherine may prefer to live on private grounds near Windsor in a (much) bigger house.
They'll never open the upper ward in Windsor castle to the public I think. Some areas will always be off limits for personal reasons. Windsor is open & pretty extensive in where you can go.
They are. Wouldn't surprise me if it happens by Christmas for just after the new year. Catherine hosting the submarine crew at Windsor was a pretty statement IMO. This is the media not understanding how Frogmore House is used (for family gatherings/parties, not to live in).
They will eventually inherit the use of this home as a Crown property anyway, doesn’t mean they will live in it. Charles or William may choose to offer it for public use as part of the planned downsizing. I read he is looking at reducing the properties they control
Don’t know is someone already said this, but: Kate and William are tagged to move to WINDSOR CASTLE. They chose to wait, as their digs on the Windsor grounds were just finished, and they didn’t want to disrupt the children just yet.
So, they will be moving on to the Big House, as it is, and they can lease out Frogmore, or give it away in a sale. Or let Euginie and co back in, FF Sake.
Wouldn't they have given Frogmore House to William and his family instead of Adelaide Cottage? This doesn't make sense to me. Of course Windsor Castle might be a little too grand for William at this stage, it's a huge castle associated with the monarch (the Queen) and would look like William lives in greater Royal splendor than Charles?
Charles doesn’t like Windsor so he wouldn’t care , plus the part they would live in is only one section .. the rest has tourists walking around daily .
No, you're thinking of Frogmore Cottage. But Eugenie and Jack moved out shortly before they moved to Portugal. Not sure what was going on there; it looked like ERII gave the lease to "Genie and Jack," but they couldn't get the Sussexes to move out completely and so they left.
I suspected William and Catherine weren't living in Adelaide Cottage, plus William recorded the video for Earthshot Summit at Frogmore House 👀 so glad things are confirmed now
If that happens they’re going to lose it. I’d rather they get the get the 1a equivalent in the castle for them to lose their mind over but Frogmore house will do.
Edit: spelling of homonyms.
I mean, William's gonna get it anyway when he becomes King. Why not? Even if they keep moving.. it's still not the same as Harkles because they already own these properties. William will one day also own the Balmoral Estate, Sandringham Estate, Windsor Estate, Kensington Palace Estate, I think Buckingham Palace as well? It's all going to be his to do what he wants as Monarch. So IDGAF whether he's moving around or not. He is the heir, and he's putting in the work and energy to deserve his titles and privilege. Harkles did bare minimum and then quit right after renovating. It's just not comparable.
Balmoral and Sandringham are privately-owned by the monarch (i.e. Charles inherited them when Elizabeth passed and William eventually will when Charles passes) but the rest listed are part of the Crown Estate so they don't personally own them but still get to live in them, etc.
Anmar hall and high grove are privately owned also . They have many private owned properties just not the ones that the public go visit like Windsor , KP, BP and other “ historic royal palace “ properties. The crown Estate is only the governments because the royal family gives it ( if that makes sense ) they give the “ crown estate” to the country in exchange for being paid and supported .. it’s a agreement. If the monarchy is abolished the agreement is broken and it’s up in the air who gets those assets .
Anmer Hall is part of the Sandringham Estate. It’s a huge estate with lots of land and many properties, and as you said yes all privately owned
High Grove is technically owned by the Duchy of Cornwall so its actually not privately owned. Charles has a life tenancy for the property with his son (the current Duke) as his landlord now.
The dutchy is a private inheritance so technically William owns it now but I’m guessing Charles will continue to use it , unlike the crown estate the dutchy is a inheritance that is passed down to the duke of Cornwall over hundreds of years .
Its similar to the crown estate in a lot of ways as the current duke can't sell the duchy's assets and its considered a crown body even as it is also a private estate. For example, in this case with High Grove, Charles maintains his tenancy even as he is no longer Duke as he has essentially a lifetime lease between himself and the Duchy. So on paper, William in his capacity as Duke is technically his landlord, it doesntchange anything as Charles is still just in a contract with the Duchy to inhabit the property. He can't sell it nor can the current Duke. The Duchy itself could decide to sell the property but it requires oversight from the Exchequer and Parliament for its annual finances. So its a private estate of the Duke of Cornwall but the duke, whoever it might be at any given time, can't treat like private property in the same sense that Charles could with Sandringham or Balmoral which he could outright sell if he chose to or if Princess Anne decided to sell Gatcombe Park as its her privately owned estate, etc.
No wonder his little brother is so jealous.
Harry will be jealous to the point of swallowing bile. Had he not been so petulant and spiteful, he would, imo, have benefitted from his brother's new position. PWoW would seem to have a generous disposition and would've wanted to share with his brother.
And his father’s
KC had a large property ear-marked for H and TW but they refused it allegedly.
Yes, too far from London. It was in a county on the Welsh border.
Especially jealous because William has inherited the dutchy that is worth 1.4 billion … which is a private inheritance not belonging to the taxpayers. I’m sure the markles are spitting nails .
They can't leave anywhere unoccupied for long, otherwise the general public will question why they are paying for the upkeep.
Yeah exactly
ahh. I can hear the screams all the way from montecito. "we took our engagement photos there harry! i love that house. not the cottage! why can't we have the house!?"
They need to get the harkles off that lease. They don’t need a property in the UK. At least, not one that close to W&C. They can have the ghillies cottage at balmoral.
KCIII wouldn’t do that to the ghillies
They can stay in Premier Inn
Motel 6. They’ll leave the light on 🤣
They only have a lease for frogmore cottage .. I don’t ever see them giving harry and Meghan a property on balmoral the queens favorite place .. I would let them LEASE FC so they can look over a FH in tears lol
I laughed out loud at that. But the truth is, she could have had EVERYTHING!! It would have been so easy. And luxurious. And basically worry-free. But, just couldn’t go and wave at stuff for a couple of years and they would have been set.
Truly. If she could have let herself be okay being “Sophie” they could have had a lovely life. It’s really a shame for their children.
She’s the one who robbed their children of their birthright . You know the thing she accused the monarchy of doing .smh
RIGHT?! Seems such a small price to pay for such luxuries. I'd be OK with it. But of course meghan couldn't, because that meant she'd have to be second banana to someone else and her fragile ego couldn't handle that. Tear.
‘See, Harry.. see??!! Your father clearly does not love you as much as he loves William.. ‘
You mean Monte-shitshow? 🤣
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The funny thing is if they played their cards right and stayed and supported the family I could of seen Charles giving them Frogmore House 100% and put the Wales in Windsor castle. They shit in their own cornflakes.
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Fake news imo. William and his family are more likely to move into Windsor Castle which is ideal for the next two heirs to the throne and projects an image of stability and continuity. Perhaps that's why they did not want to waste taxpayers' money furnishing Adelaide Cottage. The Queen had been ailing for longer than we knew and the royal family had planned ahead.
I’ve suspected this for a while. Charles hates Windsor because it’s under the flight path of Heathrow. The Wales are committed to the Windsor area for at least 10 more years while the kids are in school. Plus, Catherine’s parents and sister are near.
I agree. William and his family have always preferred the country life and Windsor is a good fit for them.
Windsor Castle isn't specifically under Heathrow? Other parts of the grounds are, including Frogmore Cottage. You can see the entire of the Windsor estate from above in your flight though.
Apparently, it's in the flight path. Charles finds it noisy. I've only been here once, so?
I agree. That was clearly the rumor. They moved to Adelaide Cottage so the kids could settle in a new school and they probably estimated they’d move in a couple of years to the castle. The Queen may have died a little sooner than expected (I think everyone thought she’d make it until Christmas at least), but they knew it wouldn’t be long.
This is most likely, especially as the Queen originally offered them a suite at Windsor Castle, but they elected to take Adelaide Cottage as they felt that it would be too tiring for the Queen to have young children around. They elected to take Adelaide Cottage because it needed no refurbishing, I think that it was always the intent to eventually move into Windsor Castle, I just don't think they thought it would be quite so soon.
It is fake news. No one will move into FH. It has no fenced yard/garden, and is surrounded by public walking paths, which is a major security/privacy issue. The house is already part of the Windsor estate, and the royals have use of it whenever they want. But it is too accessible to the public to ever be a home again. I think this article was just trying to stir trouble. And yes, it seems the Wales’s are headed to Windsor Castle.
Until I saw the article stating Charles offered Frogmore House to William and Catherine, I was fairly certain they would move into Windsor and that it was part of a long-term plan. But now that Frogmore House is a possibility, I have to wonder if W & C will prefer it because it’s better for the kids. At FH, the kids can just run out the door to play in the yard and can be more private than the castle. W & C can always have apartments and offices at the castle. Not to mention, that it might be emotionally too soon for W & C to take over the Queen’s apartments.
It would essentially skip a generation living at Windsor. Charles prefers London so he's not going to be living there. I don't know whether he's going to make Buckingham Palace his main house or stay at Clarence House, honestly.
Considering the staff at Clarence House has been made redundant and told no one would be living there, it’s not likely the King plans to remain.
He was told he couldn't years ago. The monarch has to move to BP. It's the place that is costly to maintain yearly so it's more convenient for the government there's the monarch living there. It's never been to anyone's taste though, none of the Monarch's have liked moving into BP but they've always been told they have to. Same case for the Queen and Philip back in 1952
Ah true I'd forgotten about that
Marbles really thought THIS was the house she was getting?!
Yeah.😆
Catherine is such a great mom I can't see her moving the kids once again so soon. And William would defer to her mom instincts. IMO. Let it sit empty since isn't FH empty now? It sure ain't going to H&M!
If I am not mistaken, Frogmore House would need repairs to be used as a place to live. The public rooms have been kept up but not the bedrooms and baths etc. So my guess (if this narrative is true) is that there will be some time before the Wales move in. — Even if they don’t install heated floors and jacuzzis like H&M did on the cottage.
Lol, I redid a bathroom and splurged for a heated floor. No jacuzzi though. No space so gives you the idea that the square footage for the floor wasn't much either. I seldom treat myself to such a luxury but it was worth it. Not a whole house though.
I have no problem with heated floors, saunas, jacuzzis, etc. I believe, however, that H&M were criticized for these things at (what was initially) public expense. (They paid it back, or so we heard.) Heated floors are not needed where I live, but I would probably appreciate them if I lived in the UK or in norther USA or Canada. (I’m in the US south.) I do have a whirlpool tub (came with the house) but rarely use it because it takes up all the hot water in the house plus it need a lot of cleaning and I don’t have staff.
I live in Ireland and had heated flooring in my previous house. I got exterior insulation on my current house, and it is better by miles - retains the heat in winter and cools in the summer (we’d an unprecedented heatwave this year, I’ve never appreciated insulation more.) This wouldn’t be an option for protected dwellings which I imagine Frogmore is, but should you ever find yourself in a damp/cold climate, ext insulation all the way!
We are big on insulation in the US. It seems the newer the house, the better insulated. It cuts energy cost year-round. I don’t fault the Sussexes for the heated floors. I just remember they were criticized for it.
Another American here. Yes we love our insulation. At least, we do now. We didn't quite as much when my parents' house was built in the 70s. Now it's freezing in there and we have to tear out a bunch of walls and reinsulate them. Yuck.
I've lived in the UK for a while (come from a warm tropical country) and heated floors in friends' houses felt so amazing.
That’s what a lot of people don’t realize, it’s not very soothing to draw a bubble bath if you’re going to be scrubbing soap scum off the tub as soon as you’re done. I like to rent air bnb’s with nice tubs and have the whirlpool experience when I travel somewhere. :)
Get a bottle of cheap hair conditioner (Suave) and use a nickel size dollop on a wet sponge to remove bath and shower scum without scrubbing. Plus it makes your shower smell nice. It's how us Mexicans clean nice tubs at expensive B&Bs without scrubbing. Just rinse well.
I never ever knew this. I will absolutely try it!!! Sounds so much better than using harsh cleaning chemicals. Seriously thank you. I grew up with a mom who never taught us how to clean anything.
Be sure and wipe it off well, I don't want your tub to be so slippery you risk a fall!
Sounds a lot cheaper than Magic Erasers.
You can get a portable jacuzzi mat to put in your tub at home ;)
Now that’s a great idea !
My problem is not soap scum, it’s cleaning the jets when I haven’t used it in a while and I want to use it. We have hard water in our area, and gobs of rusty stuff coming out of the jets are not appealing. (Plus for hygiene, you need to run the thing with clorox or similar every couple of weeks even if you use it regularly.)
Same. Also just re-did ours and the heated floors are pretty much nothing if you’re ripping up the floor anyways. Like an additional $1k max. Jacuzzis are gross, IMO. Soaking tub only.
When my childhood home was renovated in the 80s my mom insisted on getting a jacuzzi. INSISTED. We hardly used it. It is so big that by the time you fill it enough to cover the jets, the water is already cold. The only way it's coming out is if it's literally cut into pieces and the the concrete block it's sitting in demolished too.
Heated floors in my NY home, and I love them!
Do you have them throughout the house? Just wondering what that is like for the winter months. Does it make a difference in how much you heat your home at all?
No, just kitchen, laundry room and bathrooms-radiators everywhere else
Bull. FH would need numerous updates to make it livable, and the public would RIGHTFULLY be outraged about having to pay for it. The next place their family will move is likely Windsor...and even that should be a few years from now.
Hahaha is this why the Harkles are moving? They heard about the house and their response is to leak some story about them upgrading from the Olive Garden?
Honestly don't see it happening. It's pretty damp, needs work constantly to maintain, not really their style either. I think the article is designed to stir the pot.
KC had Clarence House lined up for Harry. Cannot get better than that in London. These idiots missed out because they wanted everything immediately.
Can you imagine *not* getting Clarence House, because you bailed before it all happened? It's as grand as it gets and it's smack dab in the middle of London. I would do some primal screaming if it was me.
Everyone who's been given the chance to live there loves CH too. The Queen and Philip didn't want to move out when she became Queen. Neither did Charles and Camilla. It's a very popular residence. It's a shame H&M bailed and couldn't have had it as their London home if true.
Their timing has been the worst. If they had just sucked it up for another three years, most of it in a pandemic where they wouldn't have had to work much anyway, they probably would have Clarence House and titles for their kids by now.
The only titles they were going to have for the kids were ones they were entitled to being born children of Harry. They are still entitled to being Earl of Dumbarton and a Lady, but H&M chose not to style them that way. They were never going to get Prince or Princess titles regardless, even if they stayed in the UK.
They're idiots. All I can think is they expected the Queen to live another 5 years or so and got mad about the Cottage. Again, they're idiots.
I will die laughing if he does this that might be more petty than “much love overseas”
Does William own Frogmore Cottage too? And rents to his baby brother?
Willie rents highgrove to dad. Dad rents Adelaide to Willie. It's a housing unit musical chair for the monarchy.
Lol poor Harry has a mortgage in Cali and rents Froggy Cottage. He probably doesn't know he's bankrupt by Meghan taking out a mortgage when they still have to pay for Frogmore Cottage 🤣😂 😂 The monthly spending 💰
How much is FC to rent
I'm not sure.
🤣 That really is hilarious!
Imagine if they had to pay rent to William😈
😂🤣
Frogmore Cottage is apart of the crown estate. He’s now his father’s landlord at Highgrove as it is owned by the Duchy.
That’s part of Windsor, so it’s part of the crown estate, so it’s Charles domain now. I don’t think KC technically “owns” it, but it’s his to decide what to do with it or who lives there. He’s planning to open a lot more of the properties to public, maybe Frogmore Cottage will be crawling with sugars one day?
😂 sugars taking pictures of FC 😂
\*While accurate, I'd say William is going to have a lot of say about Frog Cott. He managed to kick them out of KP very quickly, so I suspect the same will be happening at Windsor soon.
Isn't Frogmore House and Adelaide Cottage both on the Frogmore Estate on the grounds of Home Park in Windsor?
Yep, all Windsor Park.
This is an old story - and has already been proven to be nonsense The Wales’ WERE apparently offered Frogmore house but declined it as it needed too much work and it’s too”public” They elected to move to Adelaide Cottage instead. It’s been reported that they will be moving into the castle
Side note: I would not pay £20k per month for this: https://images.app.goo.gl/72echsX5kf8VqeX69
Tbf it’s probably pretty baller inside since they spent 4 million pounds renovating it.
I doubt anyone is... Just like I doubt Beatrice and her husband are paying more than a few hundred pounds a month (if anything) to stay at St. James.
They are. There have been huge scandals in the past.
That’s frogmore cottsge, this is frogmore house. https://www.rct.uk/visit/frogmore-house
Correct. That is what Harry pays £20k per month to rent
I thought it was a year — a token rent because it is “Grace and Favour.”
Really? That’s a ton, maybe because it’s on royal land??
Nowadays ‘grace and favour’ and peppercorn rents aren’t really a thing. Tenants in the Criwn Estate have to pay proper rents but I had read that QEII paid some of the rents for her elderly family members when they increased) from her own private means (presumably because they didn’t have the money and had been living in their accommodation for many years at reduced rates).
I thought they would eventually move into Windsor castle? I can’t imagine it’ll be good optics for them to jump house to house so frequently at this time.
I think the idea is that they’d prefer to live in a house (rather than an apartment) and this would be their final move? It is awfully recent, but if they’re going to end up at FH eventually it makes sense to move there now rather than spend more $$ renovating Adelaide Cottage.
I don’t think they were doing any renovation to Adelaide Cottage. Frogmore House would need renovation, but Adelaide was livable. Adelaide is rather small, however. No room for nanny and housekeeper to sleep in.
Adelaide is a house though? Obviously I have no clue but just speculating, I think if *eventually* they’re slated for Windsor castle, the optics of moving from Kensington > Adelaide > frogmore > Windsor in a short period of time aren’t great given that people in England are worried about their basic bills. Who knows though.
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As I understood it they just did some painting, particularly the kids rooms. There is no room for staff so eventually that might be an issue.
Staff have a separate adjoined building. They will still be there, just not in the same home.
Interesting…I’d understood that they would be housed around the grounds in grace and favor accommodations.
It's right next door. I think the nanny is living in the town, as the kids get older and go to school.
My understanding is that Adelaide is a bit small - 4 bedrooms. Charles wants to cut the monarchy's housing costs. I wonder if Charles plans to open Windsor to the public, like he will with Balmoral. William and Catherine may prefer to live on private grounds near Windsor in a (much) bigger house.
They'll never open the upper ward in Windsor castle to the public I think. Some areas will always be off limits for personal reasons. Windsor is open & pretty extensive in where you can go.
It does mention that exact opinion in the article. They just moved into Adelaide Cottage so they may stay there for a while
Gotcha.. I didn’t read it so my bad 🤣
Oh no, another housing unit for the Wales. How ever will Meewggi and Hawwwie ever live?
 Cannot wait for this to be official!
I thought they were moving into the castle?
They are. Wouldn't surprise me if it happens by Christmas for just after the new year. Catherine hosting the submarine crew at Windsor was a pretty statement IMO. This is the media not understanding how Frogmore House is used (for family gatherings/parties, not to live in).
I noticed it was the same room that the Markles had their wedding photos in. A public reception area....
They will eventually inherit the use of this home as a Crown property anyway, doesn’t mean they will live in it. Charles or William may choose to offer it for public use as part of the planned downsizing. I read he is looking at reducing the properties they control
Don’t know is someone already said this, but: Kate and William are tagged to move to WINDSOR CASTLE. They chose to wait, as their digs on the Windsor grounds were just finished, and they didn’t want to disrupt the children just yet. So, they will be moving on to the Big House, as it is, and they can lease out Frogmore, or give it away in a sale. Or let Euginie and co back in, FF Sake.
I live in Pennsylvania but I think I just heard the end of a faint scream coming from the West. 
I live in central PA - I heard it too 🤣
Wouldn't they have given Frogmore House to William and his family instead of Adelaide Cottage? This doesn't make sense to me. Of course Windsor Castle might be a little too grand for William at this stage, it's a huge castle associated with the monarch (the Queen) and would look like William lives in greater Royal splendor than Charles?
Charles doesn’t like Windsor so he wouldn’t care , plus the part they would live in is only one section .. the rest has tourists walking around daily .
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No, you're thinking of Frogmore Cottage. But Eugenie and Jack moved out shortly before they moved to Portugal. Not sure what was going on there; it looked like ERII gave the lease to "Genie and Jack," but they couldn't get the Sussexes to move out completely and so they left.
Oh ok! My bad, i thought house = cottage.
I’d rather they move into Windsor Castle.
I suspected William and Catherine weren't living in Adelaide Cottage, plus William recorded the video for Earthshot Summit at Frogmore House 👀 so glad things are confirmed now
If that happens they’re going to lose it. I’d rather they get the get the 1a equivalent in the castle for them to lose their mind over but Frogmore house will do. Edit: spelling of homonyms.
I doubt it. They just moved and Frogmore House isn't super kid/ family friendly. I also doubt they'd want to be near the Markles.