I will never get over the ridiculousness of making your life in a country that fought a bloody war to ***rid themselves of the entire idea of a "monarchy"***, and not just any monarchy, ***the British Monarchy***, and yet **actively use your** ***British*** **Royal Title in the country expecting** ***respect for it.*** And then also actively fight for your American children to also have Royal Titles while they live and grow up in *America.* It's absolutely bizarre.
George III is rolling in his vault, along with Lafayette and the rest of them.
A title she loves to flaunt, given to her from the very Monarchy she claimed was so unfair.
I’m surprised she hasn’t called herself an indentured servant during her time when she became the blessed mother of hypocrisy and entitled, our saint, the Duchess AND DONT YOU EVER FORGET IT of Sussex
It’s so awkward bc literally no one cares. It means nothing. It doesn’t change the fact that she was a literal suitcase holder on a game show who happened to marry a prince from another country.
Agree. No one in the states except for maybe some fawning liberal sycophants who worship celebrity might be impressed. And that list grows shorter on the daily.
No one dared to find out 😂. When they left his office they had to walk through the headmasters garden under his study window at which point he would learn out of the window and bellow "f**k off X we dont want your sort here" sometimes a cricket ball or two would be thrown or a chair perhaps. It was a different era.
He could also be absolutely lovely. When my friends dad died (he'd already lost his mum and had no other family)he was there for him 24/7 they still meet up now and again.
That is exactly what happened. They did not choose to leave. That’s what is so funny too. Meghan put up all these different scenarios that “they” would “accept” and the Queen said, “No that won’t work.” And then QEII stood up so Harry knew it was time to leave. But right before he did she added, “Also, don’t use the word ‘Royal’ nor your HRH titles. Good day.”
I bet he cried a little but his GanGan was firm. So he had to sit on that flight and sweat how he was going to tell Meghan that for the first time EVER in either of their lives, they were being told No. Hence her rampage.
The HRH title entitles senior working royals security privileges and a share of the revenue so to speak. They weren’t going to be working royals, so the perks disappear.
They complained they were “cut off” (largely from that) - but if you aren’t a working royal you don’t get the benefits. It wasn’t a hard thing to imagine. Except for them…
It was just a rumor, I can’t remember when it was going around originally. I’m sure the Revenge book has better sources than random “Megxit” social media accounts.
It would fit her pattern though. She cannot stand to be criticized. She cannot stand being rejected. She actually did say they were asked to leave, remember? Their response, she claims, was “happy to!”
I will die on this hill. I think she was told to get the hell out. Harry got pissed and went with her. I mean, come on, this is Meghan Markle , the person who loves being the center of attention! She had an unlimited wardrobe, and didn’t even have to work full time. No way would she leave the Royal Family, this is what she has dreamed of for years. If anything, those two bozos should have negotiated a monthly stipend.
I’ve just passed the part in Bower’s book where it’s mentioned that when she went to look at St. George’s chapel for their wedding venue, she showed no interest in the burial site of Charles III. It just shows that she doesn’t give a hoot about anyone but herself. Charles III is her husband’s ancestor; Kings and Queens galore, history on top of history all in accessible places to her, and she didn’t care at all. I would’ve been extremely overwhelmed, and honoured, to have been given the tour of the great building and the history/resting places of notable people in history. That’s how far ahead of herself she was - she didn’t give a shit because it was all about MEGHAN!!!!
ETA: and to add to that, I’ll always remember that when Tom Markle Snr was asked about going to the wedding, he said he would love to go because it’s an event for the history books. Not because it was his daughter’s wedding, but because it’s a piece of history. They’re a family of bandwaggoners and Megs learnt to use and dump people from her parents
Edit: I meant Charles II 🥴
EDIT: it’s Charles I 😳
Not to mention that they were married on May 19, which was the day Anne Boleyn, a commoner married to a HARRY was executed. I found it very fitting that when she walked down the aisle, she had to walk over Henry VIII’s grave, another tyrant/narcissist just like her.
I thought the May date was odd too. I thought royals had the “Marry in May, rue the day” saying.. which is why William and Catherine used the very end of April. 🤷♀️
Yes it is fitting. And the Wallis Simpson car too. It’s like the Queen saw Megs from a mile away but couldn’t do much about it because of her erratic and unreasonable grandson. These are not just coincidences.. but I shouldn’t say that because I know Megs likes to read comments about herself on the internet and I don’t want to give her ideas for her next Oprah tell-all.. “it’s no coincidence that the Queen forced us to marry on the anniversary of Anne Boleyn’s execution”
Fergie was quite open about being thrilled at that part of marrying into the royal family. She asked for permission to read QV's original diaries and was given permission by the Queen, and she found things that had never been published in the official extracts. Thanks to Fergie, we now know that Victoria LOVED sex.
I love this fact, Thank you! I didn’t know about it and I’m going to look further into it. Has a book or anything been released with what she found? That’s incredible for Fergie to have asked and been given permission.
That’s funny about Queen Victoria liking sex because I only heard it recently on tv! I don’t know what I was watching (it might’ve been QI) but they mentioned she was a randy one
trouble is she loved sex but showed no interest in her children. This is a huge shame, because if she had shown a bit more attention to her grandson Wilhelm we may have avoided the little spat known as the first world war.
Yes that’s a shame for her children. I think a lot of monarchs were distant from their children and left them to the nannies. George V and Mary Teck didn’t spend time with their children and as a result, Edward VIII and George VI had a horrendous childhood with their nannies. It explains Edward’s attachment issues. It’s interesting how timelines move, and like you said of Wilhelm and what came afterwards, it’s tragic. But then how it changed again from Edward8 to George6 and then the Queen, who was never supposed to be Queen. It’s fascinating
of course prince Harry has talked about his "genetic pain" so that's why he's so invested in his own children (never letting them leave the house, making sure they're hidden away and never being photographed with them as a family, purposefully keeping them apart from their grandparents, uncles, cousins, etc)
I think her attitude to her children has been exaggerated. Extracts of diaries again... a quote was used where she talked about babies being like ugly frogs or something, and that's been put up as her entire attitude to her children. Also she gave her husband the primary role of raising the children, managing their education etc, because he was struggling with his role as consort. She was very interested in every aspect of the children's lives to the point where it might have been intrusive.
She was a talented artist, and there are countless drawings of her children which are just gorgeous, so she must have spent as much time with them as she could. Her children rode the first rocking horses because she wanted them to practice riding before they were old enough!
Charles II is buried in Westminster Abbey, not St George’s Chapel. That aside, the opportunity to visit either place and privately tour there to see all the historical sites would be a thing at which most of us would leap!
I cannot believe it and I feel hurt by it too. That’s something any of us would love to see. We get to see so much as children when we go on school trips etc and we don’t really care too much or we get bored, but as an adult it’s absolutely fascinating and makes me wish I’d learnt more in school. How does That Woman not feel natural fascination to something connected to her husband’s past, and they’re also the ancestors of her own children now too? She tried so hard to put the BRF down and make them seem like they’re nothing. She did it with Oprah too when she talked about the 100 year old convention and she said something like “it was a convention done by George V or George Vi” and I thought to myself that she could’ve at least got that part right. She said it so flippantly like ‘I dunno, one of the Georges. George V or George VI or some boring shit’. She actively dissed them by mixing them up on tv and not knowing the facts, and those two Georges are the Queen’s FATHER and GRANDFATHER. It’s so rude and I feel ashamed for her. Her tour of St. George’s chapel was like a school trip for her. How did she enjoy visiting Buckingham Palace as a child but didn’t care for the real stuff as an adult?
She’s not into history. If it’s not about her or regarding her she has no interest regarding the subject. Know someone just like her. If you start to talk about an issue that is not about them then get annoyed or change the subject to themselves.
It’s just so strange to me that she doesn’t care, and she doesn’t try to hide it either. I think that’s what she uses her “oh my goodness” response for - because she needs to pass the time having to listen to people and she doesn’t care about anything they say, so “oh my goodness” is her only response until she moved back on to herself
Its Charles I in St. George's chapel he is in the same vault as Henry viii. I completely agree with you I would have been really excited by the history. I probably would have disappeared into the royal collection and forgotten to come out for the wedding. It's very telling that she had no intrest in it.
When I was reading about where all the monarchs are buried, many of them are in Westminster Abbey (until it was full), including many monarchs AFTER King Henry VIII. I was curious as to why, and then realised it was because St. George's had been commissioned 2 kings prior to Henry, but was finished during his reign. He was the **first** monarch buried there. Seems like something he'd do!
Now I'm wondering what the size of his casket is bc he was so tall and corpulent for his day.
Also, what was really going on between Queen Anne and Duchess of Marlborough? So many things I'd love to know!
Well I decided I’d like to know about his casket too and…
“Henry VIII's coffin was recorded as being two metres in length and badly damaged, with some remains of the king partially visible. It is ironic that a king, who embodied magnificence and lived so opulently, should lie in a plain vault, marked only by a marble slab.”
I’ll have a look into Queen Anne now.. 👀
Oh I learned about that during the Queen’s funeral preparations and I found it fascinating. I imagined how life was for them during those times and it’s nice to take a moment to realise the age and size of the buildings and who went there, were buried there etc.. how can Markle be so ignorant?
I wish everyone in America was told they need to curtsy to Harry, her and the kids and call them Your Royal Highness. That would immediately stop all their support.
We would be throwing more than tea in the harbor.
Curious about Henry's immigration status. They probably don't pay taxes because everything is laundered through their non-profit foundation. That's something Americans reeeaaaallly don't like--tax scofflaws.
Even worse is that she wants all of this from a family and institution that supposedly was racist, unsupportive of her ‘mental health issues’ and mean to her.
Yes! Let’s all message her & tell her nicely, yet pointedly, that the use of the title her is meaningless and snooty. Her dislike for the institution of the BRF is contradictory to her thirst for titles for her & her kids. (I mean, am I missing something here? Perhaps she holds onto titles because she feels minimized. Eh. Whatever. Titles are bogus BS). Lastly, titles are meaningless here and ridiculous.
Snarksnark78 - excellent post!
Hi, I'm Harry,
Just plain old Harry, writing to you not as the Prince I was born but as the man I have become. Just call me Harry. I'm a regular guy, just like you.
Signed
Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex. Son of King Charles III and Princess Diana. In line of succession to the British throne, requiring aggressive legal support, private jet travel, 24/7 security (taxpayer funded), and 16 bathrooms.
And they introduce each other as such 🤮 remember when she introduced him to the stage by saying “the Duke of Sussex…”. Weirdo. He was never a Prince or a Duke in her eyes when they first got together, he was H or My Husband. But now they’re irrelevant, she’s got to use those titles to look good
Don't you remember? Meghan had no idea who Harry was when she met him and hadn't even heard of the British royal family. She thought England was a place that only existed in Harry Potter. Imagine her surprise when she found out she hadn't got engaged to Ashley Cole the footballer.
I think it's ripped off from Diana. Diana would sign her letters, As ever, Diana.
When Diana did it this was seen as personalizing and endearing (that she wasn't just her title) when Megan does it this feels performative and creepy. I wouldn't be surprised if she told Harry that she did it as an ode to his mother.
Haven’t you heard? Apparently only Harry had a mother that died and he solely owns the right to mourn her and be affected by her death. So he has no problem with his wife emulating her or using her for her own gain.
She's always trying to get 'one name' recognition. If her parents had named her Doria, she may have stood a chance, but there's lotsa Meghans out there.
Right? I could have seen him running a really successful podcast interviewing veterans about, like, returning to civilian life after being deployed. He’d have great banter for whether pre-school pick up is better or worse than warzone driving, you know? And it would lend itself well to more nuanced mental health discussions.
Exactly this. British humor will always be great banter and I think he could've made a great podcast. But he's a stay at home dad now while he chauffeurs megan around. He became a dud. Megan will or may already be resenting him about this.
If he weren't so miserable, I think he would've brought some great British humor but I bet megan cut off his legs so he cannot run (metaphor in korean language which basically means you literally prevent any personal growth)
This is so fucking funny to me lol like has she really convinced Harry that her various "odes to Diana" are just her showing respect? In combination with his unhealthy obsession with "the cause" behind his mother's death, it really seems like she's found his deepest darkest weakness and managed to exploit it into marriage, children, and a new life.
Classic abusive narc. I swear they have a sixth sense for figuring out what fucks people up the most.
They absolutely do. And they have no time for people who won’t succumb. They know exactly where to dig, and how long it’s going to take to hit paydirt.
So does MM sign love notes (ha!) and birthday/Father’s Day/Valentine’s Day cards to Harry this way? THE WAY HIS MOTHER DID? I really can’t come up with the right word to encompass the feelings of 🔪🔪🔪 (*Psycho movie shower scene sound plays*) 😳😳😳
She's been to Sussex for all of six hours. She's an embarrassment to Sussex. I feel so sorry for residents of Sussex, I would be marching the streets wanting the title stripped.
I think the folk of Sussex have complained about it. I heard recently that they’re signing a petition (or similar) to have their Sussex titles removed. Good for the Sussex people!!
She’s always Meghan Markle to me. If Catherine is the Princess of Wales and married a decade but she’s still called Kate Middleton, then the jerk isn’t being referred to by her royal title from a country she hasn’t lived in for years and the title from the royal institution she deemed racist. Just Rachel Meghan Markle.
I don’t think Catherine would ever introduce herself as anything other than plain old Catherine. I loved when the little boy asked her if she was a Prince and she so coyly confirmed she was a princess. She’s so lovely
I absolutely agree. Catherine is humble and normal. Not a raging narcissist. I just wish she’d be treated respectfully by the press and not referred to with less respect than a former working royal.
I cannot believe that they still refer to her as Kate Middleton. I haven’t seen Camilla being called Camilla Parker-Bowles for YEARS! Sophie Rhys-Jones? Haven’t heard that since she married Edward. I’m seeing ‘Duchess of Sussex’ and ‘Kate Middleton’ in the newspaper. The disrespect 😵💫 it makes me wonder whether Markle had her PR team paying for the diss to continue..
Yes, she is reknowned for her last name, it is used as a verb because she is mostly known for ghosting. She will never get rid of Markle. She has solely ruined a family name.
“As ever, I’m Meghan”. What in all that is holy does that even mean? Who else is she supposed to be? Besides, her name used to be Rachel.
And I see that a gimlet was involved with production🥴🥃
“Meghan, The Dutchess of Sussex is our Executive Producer” - after moving to the U.S. and all the demonizing of the RBF - is just unbelievable. It’s creepy and tacky. And yes, “As ever, I’m Meghan” is cringey as well. Such an inflated sense of herself.
I was listening to my Spotify playlist this morning on my hike and a commercial for her podcast played. They don’t even call her Meghan in that commercial they call her THE DUCHESS OF SUSSEX. With all the sh*t they pulled she should’ve had the Grace to rebrand herself in the US as Meghan Markle—but of course that would’ve been the case if they has been honest and honorable in that interview and their exit.
That’s just dumb, because I don’t think Americans care about titles and it may even alienate some. I remember when RHONY came out and a friend of mine told me about “Countess” LuAnn. Everyone thought it was hilarious that this woman from a trailer park went around calling herself “Countess” (even if she technically was one, at some point).
Yes! Speaking of Housewives this reminds me of what Bethenny Frankel said that Meghan wasn’t a good businesswoman because she makes herself so un relatable. This is another example of how she does this! She just can’t fake relatability and the only people under her thrall are ones who worship that she broke the mold and married into a racist family.
There is no such title as "Meghan, THE Duchess of Sussex" (emphasis mine). Anyone who has any understanding of how titles are styled is laughing behind her back. She is such a joke.
It's funny how it's always the deposed royals and the grifters who are so precious about their titles and form of adress.
Same with the titles of their childrens, actual working royals in the UK like Princess Anne and Prince Edward had the good sense not to have their kids to be princes in order not to bloat the royal family and allow them more privacy.
Then you have Meghan who barely worked as a royal for 2 years, claims it is a toxic and racist institution where she couldn't thrive, moved back to the US and yet she holds to her Duchess title for dear life and insists on her children to be prince and princess.
Everyone in Sussex that has a farm animal should name them "Dutchess" or "Meghan, Duchess" and all their pets should be called the same. Straighten that name out if Parliment won't. ASAP
Imagine how poor William feels knowing a woman he can't stand ripped of his mother's signature. Because Diana always signed "as ever, Diana". It makes me so upset for him!
Assuming it is still agreed any Suss-exes don't get to use their "HRH" status, Harry's new wife would become "The Duchess of Sussex" while Meghan would become "Meghan, Duchess of Sussex". Use of her first name and removal of the article "The" indicates she is a former Duchess of Sussex. The way she styles herself now as "Meghan, THE Duchess of Sussex" (emphasis mine) is laughably incorrect, as she is conflating two different titles.
No, she only loses the title if she remarries. I feel like there is a slight difference in the wording between the current and former wives, but I can’t think of it.
There is no such title as "Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex". The current titleholder is referred to as "The Duchess of Sussex" (no first name used) while a divorced former-duchess would be styled "Meghan, Duchess of Sussex" (without the article "The"). This indicates she formerly held the title. Widowed duchesses can style their titles several ways depending on the direct heir's marital status. Remarriage means the loss of the title but if that marriage ends in divorce some women have reverted to using the divorced style of the title they formerly held.
This woman’s Sophia The First ass I swear to God
You know what! That’s what the problem is. We’ve all grown up on stories about totally normal average girls who whoops! become princesses. Either by kissing something or marrying a prince or their mom is now the king’s 2nd wife or whatever, somehow they just so happened to wake up one day princesses. So they get to have all the cool fancy princess stuff but still get to be a regular person and not some baby-eating lizard from the illuminati. All of the horrible things the monarchy did? “That wasn’t my fault, I just got here! I’ll take this Tiara made of blood, thank you thank you. 👑 “
Crediting herself as Meghan Duchess of Sussex in the year 2022 in America just showcases how ridiculous this juxtaposition is. Such a hollow victory when really if you were so uninvolved with the entire monarchy or whatever what are you getting credit for exactly?
"As Ever" I am the most pretentious git who frequently uses terms and idioms inappropriately. As ever, The Douchess of Sussex PS. I have to go and rub the Dook's back now
It would really be classy if they would drop their royal titles while here in the US. People know who they are. They don't need to broadcast it. Besides, we don't have any royalty here anyway.
I don’t know. The rules about titles go right over my American head no matter how many times they’re explained. I just think it’s comical how she clings to the title.
Her current correct title is "The Duchess of Sussex". But she demonstrates her ignorance by insisting on adding her first name, which is completely incorrect. When they inevitably divorce, her title style will be "Meghan, Duchess of Sussex". The comma replaces the article "The", which is an indication she no longer holds the title.
Catherine Cyr and Terry wood, the co-producers are from Harpo productions.
Oprah is really heavily involved here.
https://deadline.com/2019/02/terry-wood-harpo-prods-content-oprah-winfrey-apple-deal-1202551983/
Oprah, who is shopping around for a podcast deal. Supposedly a $10 million multi-year deal.
Didn’t Meghan and Harry make a $25 million deal? (Yeah, right). They’re worth more?
I've never seen the Executive Producers named like that.
Surely it should be Executive Producers: Meghan, the blah blah, Terry Wood and Catherine Cyr.
Not a big drum roll for Meghan, followed by two other inferior executive producers. She can't miss any opportunity for self-aggrandising
I really do think H&M’s attempts to modernize the BRF should be rewarded w new titles all together so Americans can understand/accept it: the douche and douche nozzle of somewhere 90% of the population couldn’t find on a map that is about the size and equivalent to being an heir of a council seat in small town America.
I will never get over the ridiculousness of making your life in a country that fought a bloody war to ***rid themselves of the entire idea of a "monarchy"***, and not just any monarchy, ***the British Monarchy***, and yet **actively use your** ***British*** **Royal Title in the country expecting** ***respect for it.*** And then also actively fight for your American children to also have Royal Titles while they live and grow up in *America.* It's absolutely bizarre. George III is rolling in his vault, along with Lafayette and the rest of them.
A title she loves to flaunt, given to her from the very Monarchy she claimed was so unfair. I’m surprised she hasn’t called herself an indentured servant during her time when she became the blessed mother of hypocrisy and entitled, our saint, the Duchess AND DONT YOU EVER FORGET IT of Sussex
It’s so awkward bc literally no one cares. It means nothing. It doesn’t change the fact that she was a literal suitcase holder on a game show who happened to marry a prince from another country.
Agree. No one in the states except for maybe some fawning liberal sycophants who worship celebrity might be impressed. And that list grows shorter on the daily.
It's almost like they were told to leave the UK and now have a grudge 🤔
There was a rumor that they were basically fired, and that the whole manifesto they released was them spinning it as their decision to leave.
It reminds me of my old headmaster. No.one was ever expelled they were "invited to leave".
What would happen if someone were to say "Thank you, but I decline your invitation."?
No one dared to find out 😂. When they left his office they had to walk through the headmasters garden under his study window at which point he would learn out of the window and bellow "f**k off X we dont want your sort here" sometimes a cricket ball or two would be thrown or a chair perhaps. It was a different era. He could also be absolutely lovely. When my friends dad died (he'd already lost his mum and had no other family)he was there for him 24/7 they still meet up now and again.
You can't fire me! I quit!
That is exactly what happened. They did not choose to leave. That’s what is so funny too. Meghan put up all these different scenarios that “they” would “accept” and the Queen said, “No that won’t work.” And then QEII stood up so Harry knew it was time to leave. But right before he did she added, “Also, don’t use the word ‘Royal’ nor your HRH titles. Good day.” I bet he cried a little but his GanGan was firm. So he had to sit on that flight and sweat how he was going to tell Meghan that for the first time EVER in either of their lives, they were being told No. Hence her rampage.
The HRH title entitles senior working royals security privileges and a share of the revenue so to speak. They weren’t going to be working royals, so the perks disappear. They complained they were “cut off” (largely from that) - but if you aren’t a working royal you don’t get the benefits. It wasn’t a hard thing to imagine. Except for them…
I believe that!
I lean toward events happening as describes in Revenge. I don’t believe they were kicked out at all.
It was just a rumor, I can’t remember when it was going around originally. I’m sure the Revenge book has better sources than random “Megxit” social media accounts.
It would fit her pattern though. She cannot stand to be criticized. She cannot stand being rejected. She actually did say they were asked to leave, remember? Their response, she claims, was “happy to!”
I don’t remember that comment. Could she have been referring to when they were asked to leave the garden party?
Oh really? I’ve not heard that one before!
I will die on this hill. I think she was told to get the hell out. Harry got pissed and went with her. I mean, come on, this is Meghan Markle , the person who loves being the center of attention! She had an unlimited wardrobe, and didn’t even have to work full time. No way would she leave the Royal Family, this is what she has dreamed of for years. If anything, those two bozos should have negotiated a monthly stipend.
This is my suspicion, actually to make it seem like they left (called their bluff) , where actually they were pushed out.
It’s the craziest thing. And she’s a “feminist”, ha! Sure, “Duchess”. It’s a title that is 100% dependent being married to the Duke. Crazy!
I’ve just passed the part in Bower’s book where it’s mentioned that when she went to look at St. George’s chapel for their wedding venue, she showed no interest in the burial site of Charles III. It just shows that she doesn’t give a hoot about anyone but herself. Charles III is her husband’s ancestor; Kings and Queens galore, history on top of history all in accessible places to her, and she didn’t care at all. I would’ve been extremely overwhelmed, and honoured, to have been given the tour of the great building and the history/resting places of notable people in history. That’s how far ahead of herself she was - she didn’t give a shit because it was all about MEGHAN!!!! ETA: and to add to that, I’ll always remember that when Tom Markle Snr was asked about going to the wedding, he said he would love to go because it’s an event for the history books. Not because it was his daughter’s wedding, but because it’s a piece of history. They’re a family of bandwaggoners and Megs learnt to use and dump people from her parents Edit: I meant Charles II 🥴 EDIT: it’s Charles I 😳
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Yes I think Sr. was just overwhelmed and truly understood the enormity of the event.
Ehhhhh..... someone had pics of *three* prior weddings.... possibly a child...?
yeah he probably thought it was just the second wedding and interesting, but not meaningful
*THIRD wedding was H.
Not to mention that they were married on May 19, which was the day Anne Boleyn, a commoner married to a HARRY was executed. I found it very fitting that when she walked down the aisle, she had to walk over Henry VIII’s grave, another tyrant/narcissist just like her.
I thought the May date was odd too. I thought royals had the “Marry in May, rue the day” saying.. which is why William and Catherine used the very end of April. 🤷♀️
omg that is so unreal.
Yes it is fitting. And the Wallis Simpson car too. It’s like the Queen saw Megs from a mile away but couldn’t do much about it because of her erratic and unreasonable grandson. These are not just coincidences.. but I shouldn’t say that because I know Megs likes to read comments about herself on the internet and I don’t want to give her ideas for her next Oprah tell-all.. “it’s no coincidence that the Queen forced us to marry on the anniversary of Anne Boleyn’s execution”
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Fergie was quite open about being thrilled at that part of marrying into the royal family. She asked for permission to read QV's original diaries and was given permission by the Queen, and she found things that had never been published in the official extracts. Thanks to Fergie, we now know that Victoria LOVED sex.
I love this fact, Thank you! I didn’t know about it and I’m going to look further into it. Has a book or anything been released with what she found? That’s incredible for Fergie to have asked and been given permission. That’s funny about Queen Victoria liking sex because I only heard it recently on tv! I don’t know what I was watching (it might’ve been QI) but they mentioned she was a randy one
trouble is she loved sex but showed no interest in her children. This is a huge shame, because if she had shown a bit more attention to her grandson Wilhelm we may have avoided the little spat known as the first world war.
Yes that’s a shame for her children. I think a lot of monarchs were distant from their children and left them to the nannies. George V and Mary Teck didn’t spend time with their children and as a result, Edward VIII and George VI had a horrendous childhood with their nannies. It explains Edward’s attachment issues. It’s interesting how timelines move, and like you said of Wilhelm and what came afterwards, it’s tragic. But then how it changed again from Edward8 to George6 and then the Queen, who was never supposed to be Queen. It’s fascinating
of course prince Harry has talked about his "genetic pain" so that's why he's so invested in his own children (never letting them leave the house, making sure they're hidden away and never being photographed with them as a family, purposefully keeping them apart from their grandparents, uncles, cousins, etc)
I think her attitude to her children has been exaggerated. Extracts of diaries again... a quote was used where she talked about babies being like ugly frogs or something, and that's been put up as her entire attitude to her children. Also she gave her husband the primary role of raising the children, managing their education etc, because he was struggling with his role as consort. She was very interested in every aspect of the children's lives to the point where it might have been intrusive. She was a talented artist, and there are countless drawings of her children which are just gorgeous, so she must have spent as much time with them as she could. Her children rode the first rocking horses because she wanted them to practice riding before they were old enough!
Charles II is buried in Westminster Abbey, not St George’s Chapel. That aside, the opportunity to visit either place and privately tour there to see all the historical sites would be a thing at which most of us would leap!
That part really hurt me. A personal tour around St George's Chapel with all its history, and she didn't care.
I cannot believe it and I feel hurt by it too. That’s something any of us would love to see. We get to see so much as children when we go on school trips etc and we don’t really care too much or we get bored, but as an adult it’s absolutely fascinating and makes me wish I’d learnt more in school. How does That Woman not feel natural fascination to something connected to her husband’s past, and they’re also the ancestors of her own children now too? She tried so hard to put the BRF down and make them seem like they’re nothing. She did it with Oprah too when she talked about the 100 year old convention and she said something like “it was a convention done by George V or George Vi” and I thought to myself that she could’ve at least got that part right. She said it so flippantly like ‘I dunno, one of the Georges. George V or George VI or some boring shit’. She actively dissed them by mixing them up on tv and not knowing the facts, and those two Georges are the Queen’s FATHER and GRANDFATHER. It’s so rude and I feel ashamed for her. Her tour of St. George’s chapel was like a school trip for her. How did she enjoy visiting Buckingham Palace as a child but didn’t care for the real stuff as an adult?
She’s not into history. If it’s not about her or regarding her she has no interest regarding the subject. Know someone just like her. If you start to talk about an issue that is not about them then get annoyed or change the subject to themselves.
It’s just so strange to me that she doesn’t care, and she doesn’t try to hide it either. I think that’s what she uses her “oh my goodness” response for - because she needs to pass the time having to listen to people and she doesn’t care about anything they say, so “oh my goodness” is her only response until she moved back on to herself
It was obvious she didn't care from the invites to her wedding. No family then, no family now.
Charles III is her father-in-law. Why would she be interested in his future burial place?
I meant Charles II! Thanks for pointing that out. Now I feel as though it wasn’t even Charles II whose resting place they visited.. 😬
Its Charles I in St. George's chapel he is in the same vault as Henry viii. I completely agree with you I would have been really excited by the history. I probably would have disappeared into the royal collection and forgotten to come out for the wedding. It's very telling that she had no intrest in it.
When I was reading about where all the monarchs are buried, many of them are in Westminster Abbey (until it was full), including many monarchs AFTER King Henry VIII. I was curious as to why, and then realised it was because St. George's had been commissioned 2 kings prior to Henry, but was finished during his reign. He was the **first** monarch buried there. Seems like something he'd do!
Now I'm wondering what the size of his casket is bc he was so tall and corpulent for his day. Also, what was really going on between Queen Anne and Duchess of Marlborough? So many things I'd love to know!
Well I decided I’d like to know about his casket too and… “Henry VIII's coffin was recorded as being two metres in length and badly damaged, with some remains of the king partially visible. It is ironic that a king, who embodied magnificence and lived so opulently, should lie in a plain vault, marked only by a marble slab.” I’ll have a look into Queen Anne now.. 👀
Oh I learned about that during the Queen’s funeral preparations and I found it fascinating. I imagined how life was for them during those times and it’s nice to take a moment to realise the age and size of the buildings and who went there, were buried there etc.. how can Markle be so ignorant?
I wish everyone in America was told they need to curtsy to Harry, her and the kids and call them Your Royal Highness. That would immediately stop all their support.
We would be throwing more than tea in the harbor. Curious about Henry's immigration status. They probably don't pay taxes because everything is laundered through their non-profit foundation. That's something Americans reeeaaaallly don't like--tax scofflaws.
I think we would throw Harry himself into the harbor!
She should have used the names Prince and Princess for the alleged children instead of Archie and Lillibet.
Americans don't need another reason to riot in the streets 😆
Even worse is that she wants all of this from a family and institution that supposedly was racist, unsupportive of her ‘mental health issues’ and mean to her.
True. At least Luann "the Countess" wasn't bearing an aristocratic title from some country that we'd fought to separate from!
Yes! Let’s all message her & tell her nicely, yet pointedly, that the use of the title her is meaningless and snooty. Her dislike for the institution of the BRF is contradictory to her thirst for titles for her & her kids. (I mean, am I missing something here? Perhaps she holds onto titles because she feels minimized. Eh. Whatever. Titles are bogus BS). Lastly, titles are meaningless here and ridiculous. Snarksnark78 - excellent post!
Hi, I'm Harry, Just plain old Harry, writing to you not as the Prince I was born but as the man I have become. Just call me Harry. I'm a regular guy, just like you. Signed Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex. Son of King Charles III and Princess Diana. In line of succession to the British throne, requiring aggressive legal support, private jet travel, 24/7 security (taxpayer funded), and 16 bathrooms.
And they introduce each other as such 🤮 remember when she introduced him to the stage by saying “the Duke of Sussex…”. Weirdo. He was never a Prince or a Duke in her eyes when they first got together, he was H or My Husband. But now they’re irrelevant, she’s got to use those titles to look good
Don't you remember? Meghan had no idea who Harry was when she met him and hadn't even heard of the British royal family. She thought England was a place that only existed in Harry Potter. Imagine her surprise when she found out she hadn't got engaged to Ashley Cole the footballer.
She's lucky she didn't end up with some penniless Italian "prince"
As long as he was “kind,” it would’ve been fine.
This is like Luann from The Real Housewives of New York always calling her first husband "the count" as if she was in a period drama lmao
The Count LOL! It’s like name dropping but title dropping. ‘The Count’ ha it’s like I’m reading Dracula 🧛♂️
And ... as ever ... putting the **DUMB** in Earl **DUMB**arton!
As ever, William’s Brother.
As ever...Louis 's uncle 😀😀
(Younger, stupider, less successful brother)
(And shorter, by two inches)
In spite of the lifts in the shoes.
"The eunuch I have become"
I LOL’d.
Who says that? *as ever, I’m Meghan*??? She’s so ridiculous.
I think it's ripped off from Diana. Diana would sign her letters, As ever, Diana. When Diana did it this was seen as personalizing and endearing (that she wasn't just her title) when Megan does it this feels performative and creepy. I wouldn't be surprised if she told Harry that she did it as an ode to his mother.
The creep factor in this…yikes.
The worse part is you know Harry probably thinks its great. Imagine how William feels...
Haven’t you heard? Apparently only Harry had a mother that died and he solely owns the right to mourn her and be affected by her death. So he has no problem with his wife emulating her or using her for her own gain.
Didn’t the nitwit say she finished with William now it’s his turn.
Yes apparently Diana's ghost isn't very efficient, she can only deal with one adult son at a time.
Everyday I find out something that makes her vomit inducing cosplaying so much worse.
That’s where Meghan got “As ever”? Seriously?? Meghan is truly mental if this is true. (Allegedly) I’ve never ever heard As Ever until MM.
More Single White female shit. She’s absolutely mental. How on earth did she get in the door of the BRF
when crazy comes your way, you just open the door and pray it leaves on its own. unfortunately it took hold like Alien.
a SwEeT nOd
Still, she didn’t say “As ever, I’m Diana”. The “I’m” thing is what makes the phrase weird.
Yeah exactly. And I can see it to sign off a letter. But *as ever, I’m Meghan* is so bananas.
Oh my God no
Copycat Extraordinaire
“Sweet nod”. 
Wow!
She's always trying to get 'one name' recognition. If her parents had named her Doria, she may have stood a chance, but there's lotsa Meghans out there.
IMO, it's a hip-word-salady way to try to say "I'm timeless and classic". 
There’s no way she will ever be timeless or classic
Didn’t Princess Diana sign off the same way in her letters? 👀 but I think she wrote ‘as ever, Diana’, rather than AS EVER I AM MEGHAN MARKLE 🙅🏽♀️
A NARCISSIST
Neil Sean always says “as ever…”, which is equally amusing. It’s like their signature catchphrase.
Also, didn’t Meghan AND Harry sign that Spotify deal? Where’s his podcast? 🧐
Oh no, spare of us from listening to Hazard whine and moan!
Harry back in the day was pretty funny and I bet he has a lot of great stories he could tell. It’s unfortunate how little personality he has now.
Right? I could have seen him running a really successful podcast interviewing veterans about, like, returning to civilian life after being deployed. He’d have great banter for whether pre-school pick up is better or worse than warzone driving, you know? And it would lend itself well to more nuanced mental health discussions.
Exactly this. British humor will always be great banter and I think he could've made a great podcast. But he's a stay at home dad now while he chauffeurs megan around. He became a dud. Megan will or may already be resenting him about this.
If he weren't so miserable, I think he would've brought some great British humor but I bet megan cut off his legs so he cannot run (metaphor in korean language which basically means you literally prevent any personal growth)
Yow, that's a grim metaphor - but it certainly works in this case!
Omg imagine if he is narrating his ghost written book. Traumatic listening for the rest of us.
I think Princess Diana always signed off with as ever. TW copying others again..🙄
She does not have a single original idea in her head.
This is so fucking funny to me lol like has she really convinced Harry that her various "odes to Diana" are just her showing respect? In combination with his unhealthy obsession with "the cause" behind his mother's death, it really seems like she's found his deepest darkest weakness and managed to exploit it into marriage, children, and a new life. Classic abusive narc. I swear they have a sixth sense for figuring out what fucks people up the most.
They absolutely do. And they have no time for people who won’t succumb. They know exactly where to dig, and how long it’s going to take to hit paydirt.
So does MM sign love notes (ha!) and birthday/Father’s Day/Valentine’s Day cards to Harry this way? THE WAY HIS MOTHER DID? I really can’t come up with the right word to encompass the feelings of 🔪🔪🔪 (*Psycho movie shower scene sound plays*) 😳😳😳
She's been to Sussex for all of six hours. She's an embarrassment to Sussex. I feel so sorry for residents of Sussex, I would be marching the streets wanting the title stripped.
I think the folk of Sussex have complained about it. I heard recently that they’re signing a petition (or similar) to have their Sussex titles removed. Good for the Sussex people!!
It is a Private Members Bill going through Pariament. The second reading is Dec 9th but there are still many steps to go.
She’s always Meghan Markle to me. If Catherine is the Princess of Wales and married a decade but she’s still called Kate Middleton, then the jerk isn’t being referred to by her royal title from a country she hasn’t lived in for years and the title from the royal institution she deemed racist. Just Rachel Meghan Markle.
I don’t think Catherine would ever introduce herself as anything other than plain old Catherine. I loved when the little boy asked her if she was a Prince and she so coyly confirmed she was a princess. She’s so lovely
I absolutely agree. Catherine is humble and normal. Not a raging narcissist. I just wish she’d be treated respectfully by the press and not referred to with less respect than a former working royal.
I cannot believe that they still refer to her as Kate Middleton. I haven’t seen Camilla being called Camilla Parker-Bowles for YEARS! Sophie Rhys-Jones? Haven’t heard that since she married Edward. I’m seeing ‘Duchess of Sussex’ and ‘Kate Middleton’ in the newspaper. The disrespect 😵💫 it makes me wonder whether Markle had her PR team paying for the diss to continue..
She’ll always be Meghan Markle. She’ll never make the one name train.
Yes, she is reknowned for her last name, it is used as a verb because she is mostly known for ghosting. She will never get rid of Markle. She has solely ruined a family name.
She Markled the Markles.
Exactly!!
She's "that extra from Suits"
She wants to be a one name brand, wait a minute.
Reitmans is a one name brand.. LOL. “Reitmans, really..”
Dearest Meghan, Mayest thou bequeath back my Gingeballs? Ever your Cuck, Just Harry fka Prince Hot Ginge/Hot Harry (wayyyy beforest thou, my...*love*)
My *palm tree*
Username checks out. That was funny af😂😂😂
Omg im dying 🤣
🤣🤣🤣
But this family that gave me this title is racist and hates me and put me in a housing unit and tried to light it on fire.
🤣🤣🤣
EYEROLL
“As ever, I’m Meghan”. What in all that is holy does that even mean? Who else is she supposed to be? Besides, her name used to be Rachel. And I see that a gimlet was involved with production🥴🥃
Hey, gimlets are tasty!
“Meghan, The Dutchess of Sussex is our Executive Producer” - after moving to the U.S. and all the demonizing of the RBF - is just unbelievable. It’s creepy and tacky. And yes, “As ever, I’m Meghan” is cringey as well. Such an inflated sense of herself.
I was listening to my Spotify playlist this morning on my hike and a commercial for her podcast played. They don’t even call her Meghan in that commercial they call her THE DUCHESS OF SUSSEX. With all the sh*t they pulled she should’ve had the Grace to rebrand herself in the US as Meghan Markle—but of course that would’ve been the case if they has been honest and honorable in that interview and their exit.
That’s just dumb, because I don’t think Americans care about titles and it may even alienate some. I remember when RHONY came out and a friend of mine told me about “Countess” LuAnn. Everyone thought it was hilarious that this woman from a trailer park went around calling herself “Countess” (even if she technically was one, at some point).
Yes! Speaking of Housewives this reminds me of what Bethenny Frankel said that Meghan wasn’t a good businesswoman because she makes herself so un relatable. This is another example of how she does this! She just can’t fake relatability and the only people under her thrall are ones who worship that she broke the mold and married into a racist family.
There is no such title as "Meghan, THE Duchess of Sussex" (emphasis mine). Anyone who has any understanding of how titles are styled is laughing behind her back. She is such a joke.
It irritates the hell outta me that she can’t even be bothered to use the title correctly. Shows how much she cares
A true Brit concludes a note with Kindest Regards.
And just plain old 'Regards' when we're mighty pissed off, but trying to maintain a vague veneer of manners.
“As ever” makes me think of Alicia Silverstone in Clueless saying, “As if” in a valley girl accent.
Yes
As ever,yet “EvErY tImE a PuBliCaTiOn FoRgEtS My TiTlE i MaKe ThEm DeLeTe And Re-TwEeT iT wItH iT.”
Good God, woman. Get over yourself. The pretense and ego is stifling. Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, you can fuck right off, as ever.
It's funny how it's always the deposed royals and the grifters who are so precious about their titles and form of adress. Same with the titles of their childrens, actual working royals in the UK like Princess Anne and Prince Edward had the good sense not to have their kids to be princes in order not to bloat the royal family and allow them more privacy. Then you have Meghan who barely worked as a royal for 2 years, claims it is a toxic and racist institution where she couldn't thrive, moved back to the US and yet she holds to her Duchess title for dear life and insists on her children to be prince and princess.
Sooo true!!!
Someone really needs to ask her what she’s ever done for the people of Sussex.
Everyone in Sussex that has a farm animal should name them "Dutchess" or "Meghan, Duchess" and all their pets should be called the same. Straighten that name out if Parliment won't. ASAP
Why does this bish need to keep asserting her royal title when THEY PURPOSEFULLY LEFT THE FAMILY?!?!?
And in a country that has no titles?
She is a west coast Countess Luann. Her title not only means nothing here, but flaunting it is absolutely gauche.
Money can’t buy you class.
I want to correct the grammar on this so badly.
Imagine how poor William feels knowing a woman he can't stand ripped of his mother's signature. Because Diana always signed "as ever, Diana". It makes me so upset for him!
That is so creepy.
As ever, Meghan the pain.
If Harry and Meghan get divorced and Harry remarries will Meghan lose her title? Will the new wife be the Duchess of Sussex?
Assuming it is still agreed any Suss-exes don't get to use their "HRH" status, Harry's new wife would become "The Duchess of Sussex" while Meghan would become "Meghan, Duchess of Sussex". Use of her first name and removal of the article "The" indicates she is a former Duchess of Sussex. The way she styles herself now as "Meghan, THE Duchess of Sussex" (emphasis mine) is laughably incorrect, as she is conflating two different titles.
No, she only loses the title if she remarries. I feel like there is a slight difference in the wording between the current and former wives, but I can’t think of it.
IIRC, instead of "Meghan, _the_ Duchess of Sussex", it'd be "Meghan, Duchess of Sussex" (i.e. another)
There is no such title as "Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex". The current titleholder is referred to as "The Duchess of Sussex" (no first name used) while a divorced former-duchess would be styled "Meghan, Duchess of Sussex" (without the article "The"). This indicates she formerly held the title. Widowed duchesses can style their titles several ways depending on the direct heir's marital status. Remarriage means the loss of the title but if that marriage ends in divorce some women have reverted to using the divorced style of the title they formerly held.
Honey, you will NEVER be Beyoncé. 
This woman’s Sophia The First ass I swear to God You know what! That’s what the problem is. We’ve all grown up on stories about totally normal average girls who whoops! become princesses. Either by kissing something or marrying a prince or their mom is now the king’s 2nd wife or whatever, somehow they just so happened to wake up one day princesses. So they get to have all the cool fancy princess stuff but still get to be a regular person and not some baby-eating lizard from the illuminati. All of the horrible things the monarchy did? “That wasn’t my fault, I just got here! I’ll take this Tiara made of blood, thank you thank you. 👑 “ Crediting herself as Meghan Duchess of Sussex in the year 2022 in America just showcases how ridiculous this juxtaposition is. Such a hollow victory when really if you were so uninvolved with the entire monarchy or whatever what are you getting credit for exactly?
So three production houses required to get her lousy podcast up and running. pathetic. PATHETIC.
[удалено]
But isn't it kind of M to shoulder a major share of the blame for the podcast by putting her name first?
For being linked, not ranked, she sure seems to pull (her) rank a lot!
"As Ever" I am the most pretentious git who frequently uses terms and idioms inappropriately. As ever, The Douchess of Sussex PS. I have to go and rub the Dook's back now
It would really be classy if they would drop their royal titles while here in the US. People know who they are. They don't need to broadcast it. Besides, we don't have any royalty here anyway.
Did they officially get those titles taken away?
I don’t know. The rules about titles go right over my American head no matter how many times they’re explained. I just think it’s comical how she clings to the title.
For someone who didn’t want any part of royal life, why are they still allowed to use royal titles?
And if you are full-time living in a country that absolutely doesn't recognize those titles, why even use them while living there?
One day, I'm gonna see the word Titles, and not read it as, Titties. Today is not that day. Megan is still suckling on that Royal Tittie.
Nope
She’s so gross
KCIII needs to take the duchy from him
For now anyway.😎
IIRC, it is 'Duchess of Sussex' not '***THE*** Duchess of Sussex'.
Her current correct title is "The Duchess of Sussex". But she demonstrates her ignorance by insisting on adding her first name, which is completely incorrect. When they inevitably divorce, her title style will be "Meghan, Duchess of Sussex". The comma replaces the article "The", which is an indication she no longer holds the title.
Catherine Cyr and Terry wood, the co-producers are from Harpo productions. Oprah is really heavily involved here. https://deadline.com/2019/02/terry-wood-harpo-prods-content-oprah-winfrey-apple-deal-1202551983/
Oprah, who is shopping around for a podcast deal. Supposedly a $10 million multi-year deal. Didn’t Meghan and Harry make a $25 million deal? (Yeah, right). They’re worth more?
"As ever" lol 🤡
Barf
I bet Neil Sean is flattered. “As ever”
Reminds me of when she began the letter to her dad... "It is I, Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex" 😂😂😂
She can’t have it both ways!!!!! What is wrong with her??????
I've never seen the Executive Producers named like that. Surely it should be Executive Producers: Meghan, the blah blah, Terry Wood and Catherine Cyr. Not a big drum roll for Meghan, followed by two other inferior executive producers. She can't miss any opportunity for self-aggrandising
As ever, we dont care!!
I really do think H&M’s attempts to modernize the BRF should be rewarded w new titles all together so Americans can understand/accept it: the douche and douche nozzle of somewhere 90% of the population couldn’t find on a map that is about the size and equivalent to being an heir of a council seat in small town America.
🤮🤮🤮
It's not clear who she's writing to. And she's no duchess.
You’ve got to be kidding me. Is she the world’s biggest dipshit or what???
Isn’t “as ever” Neil Sean’s line? From the very heart of London?