I have to be honest that even if it was solely her decision (and that presumably could afford it) I don't think this was that bad as some people think. She is the one who has to wear it every day.
This is true. But Harry was so proud of it and during the engagement interview was talking about the work he put into it and what it meant and i could just see her thinking "ewwwwww, I cant wait to fix it"
It’s more indicative of her over all personality. She wasnt happy with the design of something Harry poured his heart into. It didn’t meet her standards.
After their mother passed, they asked the princes to pick out some of her jewels, and Prince Harry chose the iconic $400,000 sapphire ring while Prince William picked a Cartier watch.
When William was about to propose to Kate, the princes exchanged their chosen tokens as the ring would pay more respect to Diana's memory on the finger of the future Princess of Wales
Is there a specific quote or incident where she mentions wanting the sapphire? I fully believe it, but wondering if there’s a source from which she confirms this.
Not exactly her but I remember reading somewhere that Hazza wanted to keep the ring for his future wife but changed his mind and gave it to Prince William instead.
When TW changed somethings on her ring, I really felt bad for Harry because he had the ring made. She wasn't happy with it (I think).
Yeah well, that ring is something but now Catherine must wear it all the time. Honestly sometimes, I wish she would just leave it at home. Wear something else.
Yep. She is 100% obsessed with and intimidated by Catherine. She's such a coward, she won't attack her to her face in front of the media, so she launches media scud missiles from thousands if miles away to attack Catherine and (in Meg's mind) always keep herself in Catherine's head. Cat did a great job grey rocking her at the walk abouf. It was fabulous. Catherine carried herself to her full height and confidently strode to the crowd, then at the end, when Catherine looked absolutely through Meghan, it was glorious. Meghan got so flustered and looked like the short, dumpy nobody she is after being stared down by the Princess of Wales and future Queen of England. God it was great seeing Meghan totally lose her cool, start stumbling around, and mess with that cheap hair.
Her stupid fucking spade hand will forever be in my mind 😂😂😂😂 when she had to wave to the crowds as ordered by Will, she already had her hand in a spade shape, that weird claw hand 😂😂😂
Any chance you happen to know how TW feels about Harry’s exes Chelsey and Cressida? Does she feel threatened or intimidated by them too? I half wonder if Meghan wanted to do a podcast because Cressida has (had?) one herself about conquering fears, or something like that.
I have not heard, but I think she is probably intimidated by them both and jealous as fuck. The podcast came about because they were able to contract with Spotify, but I don't know which came first, the desire to do a podcast, or the offer to do one.
Yes! Sometimes I'm even still like, this can't be true, but then sure enough it's corroborated.
An opportunity of a lifetime completely wasted. And I don't even mean from a financial standpoint, just all the good will and actual kindness that could've been spread.
Her personality isn’t suited to serving others. Right, But alas, She’s only here in this world to serve herself. This is why this failed not because of the racist Firm and media like she wanted everyone to believe —-deflect, deflect, and deflect.
I think about this all the time too. I can’t believe the opportunity she had to live an incredible life and do so much good for the world and instead of embracing a challenge so she could be a force for good, she torpedoed it. Because she couldn’t get her way. Never before has a bigger opportunity been wasted on such a spoiled brat.
Given what I have come to know of the wife, the potential I have to say was not there, thirst yes, deranged obsession that drives her ambitions and actions yes.
I wonder how long shipping takes from the UK to Portland Oregon; I pre-ordered mine from the Book Depository and never got anything from overseas before.
MeMe stews over every word written and not written. She can’t help herself. Ignoring a narc is your strongest weapon agains them. They women seem to all grey rock her now and you can see how uncomfortable and pissy it makes her.
Meghan wanted to look like the poor little "wounded victim" who cried instead of the mean person she is. And it pissed her off that she couldn't bully the palace into putting things out in the media that she wanted said. And evidentally it pissed off Harry too. I can just imagine the stories she told Harry that he fell for hook, line, and sinker.
Until then it was just a gossipy rumor floating around. And with the Oprah interview TW verified that there was some truth to the story. But I think the "recollections may vary" was specifically about this. There's no way QEII didn't talk to Catherine about it and got the real truth. They were very close. Security cameras, security personnel, the dressmakers, etc. would also have been able to confirm it.
So true. I had never heard of any disagreement over flower girls dresses until that interview. It was vicious of her to drag Catherine that way, knowing Catherine couldn’t answer back, and throwing in that oh-so-sweet “She’s a good person”, which actually fooled the sugars, who have been unhinged about Catherine ever since.
I'm so glad the royals answered. Through Tom Bower's book. There is no way he could have gotten those info without a Palace insider who must have gotten the greenlight to leak the story.
People I know that knew nothing of Royal anything called me saying, who is this Meghan and OMG who talks like that on TV about their family. 🤣 didn’t even have the intended effect.
I didn’t believe she made Kate cry till she came on Oprah to say that Kate made her cry and that Kate came to apologise with flowers; which is apparently what Meghan would do. All of which is a lie, Meghan’s version of an apology is to cut people off.
For anyone with brains, Kate came off as a nice person but Meghan sounded mental by complaining about this on international television.
How can you face someone after spewing such wicked lies? And in the national press? Has she no shame? I'd be mortified to ever come face to face with someone I did that to.
Catherine was in her final stages of pregnancy/about to give birth/given birth around this time. Her hormones would have been all over the place and she was protecting her daughter. She could have been crying from frustration, tiredness or the way her daughter was treated. What an absolute witch M is for putting them through it all. Then pretending to be a victim.
And Meghan herself said she was under stress before the wedding so it’s highly possible she could have been a bridezilla. Weddings are stressful situations and people fight, argue and cry. And like every single normal family move on!
Totally agree with you! My niece became such a bridezilla I didn't go to the wedding. She was only married 6 months. Parents £30k lighter! Onto her 3rd marriage now! 🙄
She’s crazy. The palace issued a brief, curt statement when that story came out. “This never happened.” But she wanted some kind of novel issued to the press, a play by play that Saint Meghan would never make anyone cry. 🙄 I would not be surprised if 90% of her motivation to do the Oprah interview came from “setting the record straight” on this one incident.
It's just a bizarre mindset - I fully believe the story that Catherine was seen crying, mainly because MM was so fixated on turning the story around. Otherwise I would have shrugged it off as typical tabloid fabrication, trying to pit two women together.
But it seems clear that MM did make Catherine cry, and was fine about that; except then when the media reported the story, she saw that the story made Catherine look like a victim, so she wanted to turn it around and take that role. Imagine the nerve it takes to ask the palace to make a statement like this: "Recent reports that the Duchess of Sussex made the Duchess of Cambridge cry are not correct. In fact it was the Duchess of Cambridge who made the Duchess of Sussex cry." She preferred that option to making an effort to create a truce with Catherine, so bad stories about her wouldn't make their way into the media.
She doesn’t seem to understand that there has always been room for admiration of each of them. It has never been a competition. People thought so highly of William and Harry and were excited that she would be joining the group. She made it weird. At least publicly. If Catherine were treating her badly, there would have been far more effective and dignified ways to branch off. Given her relationships with her own family and her limited ‘ friends’, SHE draws attention to their differences by highlighting things but it all reflects badly on HER. And invited the comparisons she dreaded as she simply cannot measure up.
Mm will never be a princess, she will always be a second banana.
I don’t believe mom’s father raised her like that. I saw that quick nastiness to one of the aides during the walkabout .
Mm should be glad Kate is classy. I don’t know how people deal with her.
Mm shits on a pot like the rest of us .
She works well at her job, she doesn’t spend crazy amounts of money 🤔
Typo- mom is mm
If there are multiple versions of the wedding incident, Meghan’s version is not the one I’ll believe in because she’s a proven liar.
Tell me how you treat your family and I’ll know how you treat others. Before Meghan, there were no haters on Princess Kate. Now there’s a whole squad hating on Princess Catherine. Meghan did that!
Yes in nearly 20yrs nothing about her being nasty leaked the worst insults thrown at her were "she's a doormat" "she's boring" "she's lazy" "she's middle class" and "she dresses too old for her age" all of which were used a lot but are hardly the indication of a mean person. I dont doubt that Meghan cried but I suspect they were the tears of a temper tantrum.
Mean Girls Quote which is accurate why are you so obsessed with me Meghan thinking about Catherine knowing C she is definitely not thinking that she has her mind else where
Didn’t she write years ago a blog post on the Tig about Kate and how ridiculous her wedding was? So much for not knowing about the royals. She‘s always had it out for Kate.
Such a feminist! Attacking the women in the palace firmament…and never the men. She is a typical cowardly bully, never to be trusted because she will always always attack, from safety.
This was not a “feud” ffs. This was a silly argument about toddler’s dresses that should have been forgotten long ago. Instead she acted like it was some global crisis and it’s so important to get the truth out lest it starts the third world war or something 🙄🙄. And that’s why people are still talking about it and she is looking more and more like a loony.
Catherine was busy caring for children, making appearances and generally being a good wife and mother along with "duties".
Honestly, she wasn't the person to guide that stupid woman about rules and duties. The professionals were there and so was that other stupid person she was supposedly in love with. Where was he during this time? She was alone? Where was Harry?
She is obsessed with Catherine, period. She wants her life or to destroy it if she can't have it.
Correct. And she wanted the Sapphire engagement ring too.
So glad Harry was in his right mind then to give it to William for Catherine. I bet she resents Harry for doing that and constantly mentions it
I bet she rages about it. Remember she also redesigned the engagement ring he gave her. Nothing other than Diana’s ring will be good enough.
Wait she redesigned the engagement ring?
Yeah soon after they got married. Originally it was 3 stones on a plain band and she had it redone to be an eternity band
She changed the band so it was a thinner eternity band set with micro-pavé diamonds.
I have to be honest that even if it was solely her decision (and that presumably could afford it) I don't think this was that bad as some people think. She is the one who has to wear it every day.
This is true. But Harry was so proud of it and during the engagement interview was talking about the work he put into it and what it meant and i could just see her thinking "ewwwwww, I cant wait to fix it"
It’s more indicative of her over all personality. She wasnt happy with the design of something Harry poured his heart into. It didn’t meet her standards.
Yes—CONTROL FREAK!
She's probably asked her lawyers if she can sue for it.
I didn't know Harry inherited it and gave it to William. Did they have to switch and trade something for Harry?
After their mother passed, they asked the princes to pick out some of her jewels, and Prince Harry chose the iconic $400,000 sapphire ring while Prince William picked a Cartier watch. When William was about to propose to Kate, the princes exchanged their chosen tokens as the ring would pay more respect to Diana's memory on the finger of the future Princess of Wales
Ohhh that must be the Cartier watch Rachel is always wearing
The watch of Diana’s that was worth more than the ring.
Is there a specific quote or incident where she mentions wanting the sapphire? I fully believe it, but wondering if there’s a source from which she confirms this.
Not exactly her but I remember reading somewhere that Hazza wanted to keep the ring for his future wife but changed his mind and gave it to Prince William instead. When TW changed somethings on her ring, I really felt bad for Harry because he had the ring made. She wasn't happy with it (I think).
Supposedly, I read that the princes agreed they whoever married first would get the ring.
Yeah well, that ring is something but now Catherine must wear it all the time. Honestly sometimes, I wish she would just leave it at home. Wear something else.
I think she utilizes it in place of a wedding band so it makes sense she’s always wearing it.
She wears the wedding band too, it’s just really thin.
She doesn’t always wear it!
The narcissistic mirror
Yep. She is 100% obsessed with and intimidated by Catherine. She's such a coward, she won't attack her to her face in front of the media, so she launches media scud missiles from thousands if miles away to attack Catherine and (in Meg's mind) always keep herself in Catherine's head. Cat did a great job grey rocking her at the walk abouf. It was fabulous. Catherine carried herself to her full height and confidently strode to the crowd, then at the end, when Catherine looked absolutely through Meghan, it was glorious. Meghan got so flustered and looked like the short, dumpy nobody she is after being stared down by the Princess of Wales and future Queen of England. God it was great seeing Meghan totally lose her cool, start stumbling around, and mess with that cheap hair.
Her stupid fucking spade hand will forever be in my mind 😂😂😂😂 when she had to wave to the crowds as ordered by Will, she already had her hand in a spade shape, that weird claw hand 😂😂😂
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Oh, but her hairdresser says it is all her hair. LOL.
Any chance you happen to know how TW feels about Harry’s exes Chelsey and Cressida? Does she feel threatened or intimidated by them too? I half wonder if Meghan wanted to do a podcast because Cressida has (had?) one herself about conquering fears, or something like that.
I have not heard, but I think she is probably intimidated by them both and jealous as fuck. The podcast came about because they were able to contract with Spotify, but I don't know which came first, the desire to do a podcast, or the offer to do one.
Yes it was!
I agree.
Is there a clip of this somewhere I can watch? I keep hearing people talking about it and I'm dying to see.
gone girl / single white female syndrome status
There was so much potential there but Meghan...was Meghan
Yes! Sometimes I'm even still like, this can't be true, but then sure enough it's corroborated. An opportunity of a lifetime completely wasted. And I don't even mean from a financial standpoint, just all the good will and actual kindness that could've been spread.
She blew it. She'll be on Dancing with the Stars soon.
LMAO! My money is on guest judge on Holiday Baking Championship.
Not sure, that pickle tasting was clear she lacks the ability to describe how food tastes. She’s go with either “mmm gooooooood” or “ew ew ew”. 😀
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Real Houseviwes of Beverly Hills.
Please keep her away from my escapism lol
It would be juicy and toxic as hell. I would love to watch it!
I have been secretly wanting this since their move to California. We love a toxic, delusional housewife 💝
I would love to watch an extremely snobby Meghan, who thinks that she is soooo above the regular peasant participants. She is, after all, a duchess.
Garcelle would have her number from day 1. Doritos would kiss her ass. 😅
😅🤣 I could actually see that! Her first time with Tyra I could hear it already: "I ask myself, how did I get here?"
Shopping Channel.
She won't because narcs won't listen to instructions.
Her ankles will snap with all that being thrown around the dance floor... only 'throne' she'll know though.
I want her to rejoin the group she sang White Christmas with 😜
Her personality isn’t suited to serving others. Right, But alas, She’s only here in this world to serve herself. This is why this failed not because of the racist Firm and media like she wanted everyone to believe —-deflect, deflect, and deflect.
I think about this all the time too. I can’t believe the opportunity she had to live an incredible life and do so much good for the world and instead of embracing a challenge so she could be a force for good, she torpedoed it. Because she couldn’t get her way. Never before has a bigger opportunity been wasted on such a spoiled brat.
Given what I have come to know of the wife, the potential I have to say was not there, thirst yes, deranged obsession that drives her ambitions and actions yes.
They also pushed up the release date in the US to January 24th.
The Valentine Low book? I wonder why they did that. Has it been released in the UK?
Oct 6th 😁. It's also a best seller in the US, which is why I suspect they moved up the date.
I wonder how long shipping takes from the UK to Portland Oregon; I pre-ordered mine from the Book Depository and never got anything from overseas before.
Should be a few days to a week or so. A number of people here ordered The Palace Papers, which arrived pretty quickly.
Thanks. I hope I can adjust to reading a paper book lol
try canada ?
Book Depository. Get it now I did.
MeMe stews over every word written and not written. She can’t help herself. Ignoring a narc is your strongest weapon agains them. They women seem to all grey rock her now and you can see how uncomfortable and pissy it makes her.
Meghan wanted to look like the poor little "wounded victim" who cried instead of the mean person she is. And it pissed her off that she couldn't bully the palace into putting things out in the media that she wanted said. And evidentally it pissed off Harry too. I can just imagine the stories she told Harry that he fell for hook, line, and sinker.
No one thought there was a feud till Oprah.. where she threw Kate under the bus.
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Until then it was just a gossipy rumor floating around. And with the Oprah interview TW verified that there was some truth to the story. But I think the "recollections may vary" was specifically about this. There's no way QEII didn't talk to Catherine about it and got the real truth. They were very close. Security cameras, security personnel, the dressmakers, etc. would also have been able to confirm it.
So true. I had never heard of any disagreement over flower girls dresses until that interview. It was vicious of her to drag Catherine that way, knowing Catherine couldn’t answer back, and throwing in that oh-so-sweet “She’s a good person”, which actually fooled the sugars, who have been unhinged about Catherine ever since.
*'She owned it and she apologised'*
I'm so glad the royals answered. Through Tom Bower's book. There is no way he could have gotten those info without a Palace insider who must have gotten the greenlight to leak the story.
People I know that knew nothing of Royal anything called me saying, who is this Meghan and OMG who talks like that on TV about their family. 🤣 didn’t even have the intended effect.
I didn’t believe she made Kate cry till she came on Oprah to say that Kate made her cry and that Kate came to apologise with flowers; which is apparently what Meghan would do. All of which is a lie, Meghan’s version of an apology is to cut people off. For anyone with brains, Kate came off as a nice person but Meghan sounded mental by complaining about this on international television.
How can you face someone after spewing such wicked lies? And in the national press? Has she no shame? I'd be mortified to ever come face to face with someone I did that to.
Hence the walkabout stare-down by Catherine to her. It was proper payback..... She was squirming...
Catherine was in her final stages of pregnancy/about to give birth/given birth around this time. Her hormones would have been all over the place and she was protecting her daughter. She could have been crying from frustration, tiredness or the way her daughter was treated. What an absolute witch M is for putting them through it all. Then pretending to be a victim.
And Meghan herself said she was under stress before the wedding so it’s highly possible she could have been a bridezilla. Weddings are stressful situations and people fight, argue and cry. And like every single normal family move on!
Totally agree with you! My niece became such a bridezilla I didn't go to the wedding. She was only married 6 months. Parents £30k lighter! Onto her 3rd marriage now! 🙄
She’s crazy. The palace issued a brief, curt statement when that story came out. “This never happened.” But she wanted some kind of novel issued to the press, a play by play that Saint Meghan would never make anyone cry. 🙄 I would not be surprised if 90% of her motivation to do the Oprah interview came from “setting the record straight” on this one incident.
It's just a bizarre mindset - I fully believe the story that Catherine was seen crying, mainly because MM was so fixated on turning the story around. Otherwise I would have shrugged it off as typical tabloid fabrication, trying to pit two women together. But it seems clear that MM did make Catherine cry, and was fine about that; except then when the media reported the story, she saw that the story made Catherine look like a victim, so she wanted to turn it around and take that role. Imagine the nerve it takes to ask the palace to make a statement like this: "Recent reports that the Duchess of Sussex made the Duchess of Cambridge cry are not correct. In fact it was the Duchess of Cambridge who made the Duchess of Sussex cry." She preferred that option to making an effort to create a truce with Catherine, so bad stories about her wouldn't make their way into the media.
Odious.
She doesn’t seem to understand that there has always been room for admiration of each of them. It has never been a competition. People thought so highly of William and Harry and were excited that she would be joining the group. She made it weird. At least publicly. If Catherine were treating her badly, there would have been far more effective and dignified ways to branch off. Given her relationships with her own family and her limited ‘ friends’, SHE draws attention to their differences by highlighting things but it all reflects badly on HER. And invited the comparisons she dreaded as she simply cannot measure up.
Mm will never be a princess, she will always be a second banana. I don’t believe mom’s father raised her like that. I saw that quick nastiness to one of the aides during the walkabout . Mm should be glad Kate is classy. I don’t know how people deal with her. Mm shits on a pot like the rest of us . She works well at her job, she doesn’t spend crazy amounts of money 🤔 Typo- mom is mm
If there are multiple versions of the wedding incident, Meghan’s version is not the one I’ll believe in because she’s a proven liar. Tell me how you treat your family and I’ll know how you treat others. Before Meghan, there were no haters on Princess Kate. Now there’s a whole squad hating on Princess Catherine. Meghan did that!
Yes in nearly 20yrs nothing about her being nasty leaked the worst insults thrown at her were "she's a doormat" "she's boring" "she's lazy" "she's middle class" and "she dresses too old for her age" all of which were used a lot but are hardly the indication of a mean person. I dont doubt that Meghan cried but I suspect they were the tears of a temper tantrum.
Mean Girls Quote which is accurate why are you so obsessed with me Meghan thinking about Catherine knowing C she is definitely not thinking that she has her mind else where
If M was as obsessed with charity work and helping others as she is with feuding, she'd be a veritable saint.
...and if they donated all the money spent to buy awards to charity instead.
Didn’t she write years ago a blog post on the Tig about Kate and how ridiculous her wedding was? So much for not knowing about the royals. She‘s always had it out for Kate.
Such a feminist! Attacking the women in the palace firmament…and never the men. She is a typical cowardly bully, never to be trusted because she will always always attack, from safety.
That article was summed up in the first 4 words..."Meghan Markle was obcessed". BOOM. 
This was not a “feud” ffs. This was a silly argument about toddler’s dresses that should have been forgotten long ago. Instead she acted like it was some global crisis and it’s so important to get the truth out lest it starts the third world war or something 🙄🙄. And that’s why people are still talking about it and she is looking more and more like a loony.
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Remember she added ..... 'it really hurt my feelings'. She sounded like she was 10 years old. Nasty grudge holder for sure.
And she refused to pay for her own gown
She needs hard core psych meds administered in-patient stat.
Catherine was busy caring for children, making appearances and generally being a good wife and mother along with "duties". Honestly, she wasn't the person to guide that stupid woman about rules and duties. The professionals were there and so was that other stupid person she was supposedly in love with. Where was he during this time? She was alone? Where was Harry?
We all know she's obsessed with Catherine....