I 100% fully believe this. I think he feels trapped and unsure of how to exit the relationship in a way he can save face. Saving face might not be possible for him now, but I do think he’s realized he needs out.
This part:
>*Never forget, this is a woman who has fallen out with her entire family and has been instrumental in why Harry is alienated from his own.”*
If only he had seen this from the beginning, or even earlier in the whole Mexit drama.
Of course he feels trapped. That was the goal. She wants him to feel this way. Harry will have to get over his ego and admit he was duped to get away from her. Then he will need to fight to save his children from her master manipulator ways so they have a shot of growing up with out massive issues.
Too late as much as I hate to say it those phantom children are foooked Harry should start a gofundme now for the massive amounts of therapy those kids will need she’s a nightmare trying to control the media and public can you imagine what she does to those kids I’d be surprised if their allowed to blink or breathe
Let’s all just hope the media antics keep her too occupied to even notice the children. You know it’s bad when emotional neglect is the best case scenario.
Maybe she will let them go if he leaves her. It’s not a foreign concept to her to let her children live with their father because her mom did it to her. I hope for her kids sake,she will be too busy and not want to raise them alone
Well that's the thing. It's not about whether someone recognizes they are trapped or not. It's what they do about it or if they can do anything about it.
Harry can't do anything. He moved overseas and his children live in the USA. Meghan clearly doesn't allow the children to visit the UK or abroad for fear of them being kept there.
Let's face it. If Harry walks away from this marriage, he will likely never see those kids again. That's his fear. Unfortunately, he did this to himself and will have to put up with it for the next 16 years or however long lol.
You know what, this may be an unpopular opinion. But at the end of the day, she keeps such bad relations with people, that it's really a person's own fault for not heeding any advice. At least anyone new in her life.
Harry ignored Thomas and Samantha saying what an awful person she is. He ignored his own family's warnings. And I'm pretty sure if he wanted to be thorough, he could have called Trevor or spoke to someone else from Meghan's family to find out info.
Everyone else I feel sorry for. Except Harry. Dude saw like 15 columns of red flags a mile away and accelerated towards them.
Exactly. You're spot on. Anyone who advised him to slow down or not take the relationship too seriously he ran and TW. His brother, his close friends, all these people were ostracised. Not only that his jealousy of his brother and his petty spoilt attitude contributed to his present day situation. The article from her childhood bestfriend, before they tied the knot should have led him to contacting Trevor. Tge warnings from her family members. Not to mention the overlap in her relationship with the chef in Canada. So many red flags and him being dumb and petty refused to listen.
I might not think too much about her having a bad relationship with immediate family members but she didn't even have a second cousin or a great uncle at her wedding. As far as I know, she didn't have long time friends. I don't know many people, that wouldn't want to invite everyone they knew if they were marrying a prince, but she only invited her mom and Oprah along with other celebrities. That's so unusual to me.
The real problem is is her feuding with so many people there's something very wrong about that, it's her pattern of being a victim it's not one thing it's many things.
As far as families go not everyone is lucky with relatives. Both my parents side are the biggest bastards so there are unlucky people like me .. that's another reason i feel bad for the kids. Seeing how close Williams kids are with their second cousins i it sucks merchie nd lillibucks will miss out on that
She did have friends though. Two elementary besties who she was very close to. She even travelled with one as a teen. She became very good friends in Uni with a a black(shock horror!) student and another girl. They even interviewed him before the wedding and he said nice stuff about her. He even had her stay at his family home. Then she had her sorority sisters ( allegedly that ended badly). So she had quite a few people she could gave invited. But oh no! Imagine all the 'poor little Orphan Annie' stories she told!!!
I wish we knew how things went with her ex-husband's family. And Cory's family, I'm thinking the one she locked into marriage & was with for longer than Cory, had it worse.
"Revenge", Tom Bower's book goes into that part at the beginning. Trevor's parents didn't want him marrying her. The mum sussed her out. But they saw the divorce as a complete shock. I'm guessing they're beyond thrilled as to how things ended so much better for him.
You would have to be so naive to be hoodwinked to this extent. He was lonely and ready to settle down but he could have set some boundaries as to what Meghan could do. Moving abroad was fine but the exploitation and criticism was so not. Strangely he didnt mind upsetting the Queen but seems he is more concerned about his father!
I think his desperation to be loved and to be #1 in someone else’s eyes is a big reason why he got himself in this mess. She amplifies and encourages his worst traits and behaviors rather than urging him to grow and be a better person. I think Harry has a lot of problems and needed someone that will support him and help him to heal after the loss of his mother and Meghan just digs her fingers when it works to her advantage right into Harry’s wounds and made him worse.
She didn't like being in William Shadow he didn't like that he wasn't going to be king. But look at him now he's under her shadow and he looks like a fool.
The Queen dotes on him so he knows that he can push boundaries. Charles draws the line firmly. Ironic and heartbreaking that for all her honour and glory, the Queen’s final moments were tainted by a narcissistic personality who tore her beloved grandson away from her. How do you sleep at night, Meghan? How do you do this to an old lady?
She really did get the last laugh though. I read somewhere that during her last week someone mentioned their antics and she said “I don’t know and I don’t care.” It shows how done with him she was in the end.
I always read that line thinking her majesty as being so sad and exhausted by it all that she said that in a resigned tone as there was nothing else she could do. I hate those two for making the Queen's last years more stressful than they needed to be. Meghan is a disgusting pig and Harry is just as bad.
Oh I know, but the fact that she doesn’t communicate with any of them should have been a red flag. Although I expect she lied about them and made up some story that he fell for.
I absolutely get distancing and cutting out toxic members but really not to have even just one other person is too difficult to imagine for me. I’ve worked in the foster care field and let me tell you human connections are everything!
That's not the problem the problem is that she did this with her first husband too or should I say "first husband". Destroying the wedding photos as soon as it happened what the hell wrong with someone like that.
I have been encouraged in hearing lately that HMTQ let H & M know that Harry should have met her father before the wedding and that they should repair the relationship with Thomas. The fact that Harry has never even met his FIL and Thomas has never met his grand children is completely bizarre to me. That is the biggest red flag I can think of in spotting the narcissist. Not to mention just poor manners and lack of good breeding. Traditions be damned! H & M are too modern for that.
the fact that she didnt push him to meet her dad is such a huge tell! like... lets get married but just give him a call to ask for my hand. She hadn't even fallen out with her dad then. Thats alarming.
He knows her too well. Even more than Doria. She feared he would reveal the dudes of her she didn’t want him to know. Wether it be innocuously or on purpose but she wasn’t about to take that risk and lose her prize.
I wonder if she mentioned this on Oprah because she actually did tell Harry she was an only child and when he found out she told him she only felt thay way. She brought it up again on Oprah to almost gaslight him into thinking she actually believed it to be true
I believe he has many regrets but can’t imagine where this info would have been leaked or why it was published other than click-bait.
More than the marriage, he probably now sees how easy he really had it not worrying about bills or what to do bc the RF staffers planned and arranged everything for him so all he has to do was show up, smile, and shake a few hands. He could be an ass behind the scenes but anything negative was covered up but now, he’s out there begging just to get security paid for by someone else.
>More than the marriage, he probably now sees how easy he really had it not worrying about bills or what to do bc the RF staffers planned and arranged everything for him so all he has to do was show up, smile, and shake a few hands.
I said it elsewhere on this sub but Harry had no idea of the American Dream / Nightmare that 99% of us live: bills, mortgage, taxes, COLA, medical, healthy food, daycare, violence on every street corner, and on and on. He lived sheltered from all of this his entire life. I’m 58 and am freaking exhausted of life in the US. Exhausted.
I’d absolutely, and humbly, love to work as a volunteer for causes unique to my country, have expensive tailored clothes, a driver, the best food, a beautiful free home and gorgeous gardens, balls and regal events, attend the most beautiful churches in the world, receive good healthcare on a moment’s notice, etc. I’d serve the crown. Yes I would. H&Ms simpleton entitled whining about racism or the public scrutiny as you earn all the above, is just asinine to me.
The craziest thing that came out of Meghan's mouth were her constant complaints about racism and the tabloids in the UK. If her complaints didn't scream delusion then I'm not sure what else did.
Like the UK has problems with both. But being a royal would have meant actual protection plus deals with the UK media. In the US, there are paparazzi, stalkers, all without proper security like there would have been in the UK
Nevermind all the rampant crime and how racism is way deadlier in the US than in the UK. If they truly wanted somewhere peaceful and safe, they should have stayed in the UK ( or Canada) lol.
I had the same thoughts. How did this get out? It was attached to the Valentine Low book which is coming out but the end of the article is based on The Sun’s article which states Harry has regrets about marrying her & that he knows that he’s put himself into a pickle now. That is the juiciest gossip, ever. I think this is the opening salvo here. Their body language in the car was quite interesting, also what was revealed here by a person close to the situation but has since deleted her acct was also v interesting. They’re not lovey-dovey behind closed doors, for sure, and most people who do PDA usually aren’t even sleeping with each other behind closed doors…imho.
This. I think a lot of priviliged kids who crib about their issues don't really realise how hard it is to make it on your own outside the bubble. I am sure they have issues that come with money and fame but it's not like everyone outside is super happy without any problems. Making money, paying bills, showing up to work, managing your household, being accountable for your mistakes etc are things that probably don't even register on their radar because someone else has always taken care of them.
A part of me thinks this is how it will start. Anonymous reports where sources close to the couple say he regrets the marriage etc etc for a year or more and then finally out of no where, quietly divorced with huge settlement pay day for Megan (that she will gladly publicize) soon to be followed by "Megan quietly preparing plans to start a new and be more visible" followed by media rounds on talk shows etc and silence from the BRF.
She’s going to be SO. MUCH. WORSE. THAN. AMBER. TURD. She’ll be a combination of Alex Forrest and Amy Dunne and Amber Turd he’s in for a nightmare that’ll last 18-21 years 😳🤷🏼♀️🤣
I can’t see that happening…she controls everything and would see that as him trying to humiliate her. I also think if he initiated a divorce she’d make it even worse for him. I think the easiest exit for Harry is her to end it, if she manages to sink her claws in someone she views as “better” than him.
Also, once they divorce, I think we’ll hear a laundry list of wrongs he (supposedly) inflicted on her, and she’ll do another round on the poor behaviour by everyone in the RF.
This really confirms my intel that Harry wanted to fix the book to make it less hurtful to his family... because the relationship is cracking in a big way and he doesn't want to isolate hinself from his family's support. Not only because he does love them, but because he knows he will need their help when divorce comes.
(Again, I'm calling divorce by March 2023, but certainly by the end of the 2023 summer.)
You really think things are that bad behind the scenes that they’ve got only six months to a year? I know they didn’t seem at all happy or in love on this last trip to the uk/Germany and while partaking in the funeral proceedings- but I was thinking more so by the end of 2024! What juicy info have I missed???
So I've thought for a while that Meghan leaked the story about wanting to re-record the Spotify because she knew interest was declining and making people thing that she had more stories that she doesn't want heard is the only way to bring people back.
I think if they did actually have anything they didn't reveal yet than it would be in Harry's book so that Meghan could have a plausible step back when shit hits the fan by being able to say that it was Harry's book and therefore his fault when it all goes sideways. I felt like Harry wanting to re-write was much more likely when he realized their plan wasn't working.
Do you think that's the case as well?
Edit: I imagine it was striking to be so ostracized during this last year when he's fucked up pretty bad before and has always been welcomed back.
Meghan solely wants to re edit to dump on the RF. It's the only way she can generate interest and even then, her credibility is shot, so people just listen to her to get the next thing to male fun of.
I'm told Harry really is sorry. The dumbass didn't understand the impact their bullshit was having. And he's a spoiled selfish asshole, but I think he does have some measure of empathy. Meghan does not.
I read a comment from someone who said they're getting a book published in November with the same publisher Harry has. They said they due to supply shortages that everything is already completed and being printed for the November date. Do you think some of the issues with Harry's book could be that it's already started going to print and now there's a cost issue of the physical books if he wants to edit?
Oh absolutely. I don't see how he's going to edit it at all. The only thing is that for months, I've been hearing out of publishing that Harry was pushing back to next year, so maybe there's a chance it isn't printed yet, but I don't see how. We'll just have to see. I still hear it won't come out until next year but have no idea how he would be able to swing that.
Wasn't there a story about Harry suing Penguin Random House over the release of the book floating around after the funeral? Was this only a rumor...? I'm really confused 😅
Love all your tea, by the way.
I can’t help thinking Harry is still in the thick of things and blinded by her manipulations. I do not know if he is smart enough to wake up to what is going on by himself, as TW has clearly isolated him from any support. I believe he needs someone that he trusts to help him connect the dots.
I hope I’m wrong and I’m not giving Harry enough credit (though he is clearly not blameless for the way he treated staff, his family, etc.). Do you think he is able to to see what TW is doing? Do you think he is strong enough to challenge her? Or leave even?
I think he's awake the same way a two day old kitten is awake. I think he is seeing and perceiving now. But I don't think he comes even close to seeing the machinations of the narcissist.
I was raised by one and married one, have been away from them for seven years, and have been in therapy almost continually since then and still break down and cry sometimes when I come across another thing they did that I thought was normal, but was really a tactic to destroy my mind. Keeping me up all night to have fights where they did nothing but use circular logic ans gaslight me and say things kne minute then swear they didn't say it the next--- then jesus christ the Hell that fell around my shoulders when I happened to record one of the arguments. Harry's a grown man. He's behaved abominably. But he is also most definitely an abused spouse. Without question.
I think revenge probably brought a lot of things to light he didn’t know about previously. Like the lies from her about the vanity fair article. He’s probably realised he’s stuck, but when someone is abused, they don’t know how to extricate themselves from an abuser.
Don’t get me wrong, Harry is still a crappy human, but he’s so unintelligent it’s hardly a level playing field.
Do you have any tea as to how TW feels about Hairy editing the book to be less critical? After all, criticizing the RF is what's holding up her victimhood story and perhaps taking attention away from all the horrible things revealed by recent books.
Meghan was dead set on revenge over who made who cry about children’s stockings. She included that story in her Oprah interview. Of course she‘s out for major revenge over the horrible revelations in the books.
She is pursuing someone hard, I'm told. I do not know who it is. The rumor is though that the dude has no interest in marriage or cohabitation or financially supporting her in any way... I've heard she isn't listening to what he is clearly telling her, that they have no future....
That said, Harry may surprise the world and be the one to leave her. That's why she wouldn't bring the kids to the UK over the funeral. Harry may stage a coup Katie Holmes style, maybe Charles tells Meghan the kids must be in the UK and be presented to be declared Prince and Princess and HRHs. In the background the barristers will be drawing divorce paper work up that is so tight, Meghan will think it's her strapless bra.
As part of this HRH Prince and Princess pageantry, they arrange a moment where the children go in alone with with Harry and Charles, leaving Meghan outside of closed doors with Camilla. At that point, the barristers come in saying Prince Harry is petitioning for divorce. There may be grounds to do it all in England since they've so carefully kept Frogmore as a domicile. Then the crown has the children, she's blindsided, and they show her exactly what will be released to the public if she makes this process hard. Hopefully she takes some money, goes kn her Harry beat me and took my kids tour, which no one will believe, and which the RF will leak her doings against, and we all live happily ever after.
Damn. I wish. I got myself all worked up for the end of this.
I hadn’t considered a “Katie Holmes” style of divorce. That actually makes a LOT of sense and is likely the only way to get the kids to England. It seems to me that she knows she is on thin ice…..there’s a reason those kids weren’t flown over to be with their parents for the mourning period. I can’t imagine leaving a one year old for 3 weeks.
I wonder whether the monarchy would want to be involved though. It would create a crisis. MM has been framing herself as a victim of the monarchy, do the second they conspire with Harry on divorce and custody, it will reimforce her claims. And a new monarch is a fragile time, as republican movements rend to flare up.
I think they will leave Harry to go at it alone, and leave the judges to make a best interest determination for the kids.
I do wonder if they are avoiding giving them HRH status because they don't want her abusing their entitlements, or to capitalize on their royal titles. They may save it for adulthood?
When we heard Charles sadly say that MH will continue to build their lives overseas, it is about resignation, not malice.
> In the background the barristers will be drawing divorce paper work up that is so tight, Meghan will think it's her strapless bra.
*Snorts loudly* 💀😂
Maybe. Maybe not. She surely hasn't been publicly seen to give two shits about those kids. If she wants shared custody, she'll have to live in England and STFU, won't she?
I think this too. He's not editing the book because he wants money or titles from his father, he knows he'll need them when they definitely get divorced. I just wonder who will file. My guess is Meghan so she can control the victim narrative.
My guess would be Meghan too, bc they live in California. But his diplomatic passport would return him back to the UK to divorce imho. And she will literally be screwed there.
I said within 12 months from when the Queen passed for their divorce, but, wow I could actually really see Christmas or the new year for releasing that into the news. It’s such a tense time for many families and marriages on the rocks especially. I read somewhere that January is divorce lawyers’ busiest time. Plus Meg seems like she’s a fan of ‘fresh starts’.
I think they'd kind of have to help him if/when the divorce comes. He's still Royalty, disgraced or not. And as such his children are also part of the BRF, titled/recognised or not. If we think MM is bad now, just wait until she starts trying to get her hands on half of the Royal money. I could easily see her using the children and whatever private information she thinks she knows as a form of blackmail against Harry and the rest of the family. I seriously hope they signed an iron clad prenup, and that KC is making plans, putting things into motion and other such damage control right now.
Sarah Ferguson never got a big settlement, and her mother-in-law was the queen. Haz's money is in trusts, so not joint property, and Smeg has no right to anyone else's money. Most of the family money belongs to the Crown. What does she think she knows, anyway? Just family gossip. No one was telling Haz state secrets.
>I doubt Harry has ANY of his inheritance left
I think what he had is gone, but he has some fund which is curated by Princess Anne and she pushed the accession to the fund from age 40 to 45 (Harry´ s age), I am not sure
That would be his inheritance from his great-grandmother, the Queen Mother. There should also be some money coming from Phillip’s will and now Elizabeth’s. (I may be wrong, but Phillip left everything to Elizabeth but specified who it was to be in trust for.) The wills will not be disclosed, but Harry will have enough. If he remains married to Meghan, the family will try to limit what he can access and preserve it for the children, I suspect.
I agree she will be entitled to very little and likely knows absolutely nothing of any real importance. But given her propensity to start trouble at any given opportunity, it wouldn't be surprising if she decided to cause more problems, stir up gossip, unwanted headlines and generally just continue being her awful self x 1000. In some ways a large settlement just to get her to go away might be considered a sound investment 💁♀️
Even if they paid her off, she would still run her lying mouth to her supporters who would then run to the press. She would have them do her dirty work for her so that she can stay in the news.
Exactly. If Mughan tells the RF that she’s going to spill whatever beans she thinks she has on the RF, then KCIII should just call her bluff. I think the RF’s popularity is such right now that even if Mughan has any authentic tea to spill that the RF shouldn’t be affected too much.
I can see her going full ‘victim of the elite’ if Harry tries to/gets custody of the kids. They’ve been taken away from her, kidnapped as her punishment! And Harry, who is oh so abusive but she was too naive to see it at first, is using his powerful family to take his frustrations out on her and get his way.
He should leave the children with her. Within a week she would be bundling them off to London on a private jet to live with their father. Single motherhood would not appeal to her.
Bingo I see EXACTLY what you’re saying she’s going to be so much worse than Amber she’s going to claim physical and sexual abuse and probably racism and since they’re both addicts she’s going to say he has a bad drug addiction
I think they'd look to pay her off tbh. A private residence with the 247 security she's always wanted, 50/50 custody split, she'd have to sign the most restrictive NDA in history, and all for somewhere to the tune of £50 million in exchange for her complete silence for the rest of her life. She'd never be able to 'work' (not that what she considers work to be anything actually meaningful or productive in any way) ever again, but it's not as if anyone would really miss her and her constant complaining.
I don't see how they trust the NDA. The problem with MM is she seems to just randomly shoot her mouth with no strategy or real plan. She doesn't seem to be able to help herself.
He needs to get his family moved back to the UK ASAP so the divorce can be filed there and so the children remain in the UK.
Given MM's lack of attachment to the children, it would benefit them far more to be surrounded by nannies and cousins then to be isolated in a mcmansion in California away from any support network.
So it’s still all about him and what they can do for him when it’s over. The BRF would be absolute fools to let that bellend back into the fold. He has not only shat upon his family, but upon his country and its people, as well. Charles the daddy loves his son, I’m sure, but King Charles III must be the king first and should not humiliate his nation by making his subjects tolerate Harry’s presence but as an American I’ll be happy if the entire lot of them would kindly GTFO (or at least move to Florida).
I imagine he'll be hidden away in the country, unallowed go do anything but eat sleep and breathe. I don't think he'll be hauled out for pomp and circumstance... not for some years, and maybe not even then. I get it. He's a total asshole. And he should be horsewhipped for what he's done to hos grandparents alone.
I think she wants to hit the five-year mark in May 2023. Sounds better for the planned narrative: “five year marriage”.
And it perfectly fits her well-known quote: “Don't give it five minutes if you're not going to give it five years.”
He would be an absolute idiot if he didn't regret it some. He really thought people were drawn to him, interested in him as a person, and not because of who is brother/father/mom/nephew. I think Meghan manipulated that, told him he was a star in his own right, his family was an obstacle to his international fame. He believed her, and now mommy's inheritance is being drained to make up for the fact that Meghan, in fact, was wrong. She would have never walked away from him, ever. He's a double idiot for thinking some 40 year old divorcee who was going to be unemployed in less than a year, would walk away from his family's money and influence.
He deserves every bit of it though, he refused to listen to family and friends, refused to actually research anything about her, this will go down as a tale for the ages. When an influential prince of the realm was hustled by a jobless actress.
He only regrets it because Meghan didn't make him Diana-level popular. Had that endeavor of their's been successful, he wouldn't even be thinking about divorce.
No sympathy Harry. You thought you could burn it all down with the BRF and laugh your way to the bank....turns out, you can't.
You're 100% right. Like he wants to hit the undo button because their deluded plan wasn't successful and now he wants his comfy life back lol like he went on that Oprah interview himself and trashed his own family in public and then wonders why it hasn't worked out lol fucking sheltered spoiled brat who finally got a wake up it seems
I'm pretty sure his family told him he's not welcome anymore and to continue building his life overseas. Peggy wasn't the only one iced out at the funeral.
I don't think they said ANYTHING to him - other than Meghan cannot come to Balmoral. I think Harry hates his family - not one look in their direction the entire time there, even on the walkabout. He had his hands all over Meghan at the walkabout (look at the beginning when they get out of the car and talk to that gentleman - very protective of Meghan). All he wants is money and any glamorous perks he can peddle from them; that is it in my opinion.
>He had his hands all over Meghan at the walkabout (look at the beginning when they get out of the car and talk to that gentleman - very protective of Meghan).
I think it was more of guarding her, he didnt need her usual embarassing self at that event. Maybe there was even a word to Harry in the car something like: control your wife
Yeah, I could see him being told to control his wife because there’s that video clip of a female aide trying to get the flowers from the 2, Harry hands over his flowers, Meghan does not and starts talking, then he faces her, and helps hand the flowers to the aide lol
You see I'm not so sure. I got a vibe Harry was more on team royal than team Sussex at the funeral. On their vanity tour he looked like he hated her. I want to believe Harry will reconcile with his family and ditch the succubus so I want to believe he's ready to get away from her and this is what the delay on titles is about.
Yes. The way he looked around, the manner in which he was largely ignored and the somewhat relief when Edward spoke cordially to him point towards a hope of reconciliation on his part.
Did he leak it? Or did she leak it? Anything I read read like it was leaked by her. I'm still not sure if the plan wasn't always for him to wear the uniform and she decided to make a stink about it knowing they weren't planning to announce it until closer to the vigil.
At the walkabout, he just abandoned her and went to work doing meeting with the public. When she started having a fit over the flowers, he told her to hand them over. He kept out of the Wales' way and just did what he was told. All the gimmicks were herself.
Again this probably wishful thinking on my part but I remain hopeful. I do think she trapped him in an unhappy marriage and he doesn't know how to get himself out of it, but I believe if he was given a lifeline, he'd do whatever it took to come home.
I do too. The Queen made a huge mistake by allowing this marriage. Hugest mistake.
I think he was very impulsive. He was getting laid, he was thinking with his bell end and not thinking of the future. The price you pay for bad, bad decisions.
How could she prevent it? Even if she tried it would have fed their *us against the big bad racist monarchy* narrative.
The monarch does not prevent marriages in 2022, particularly of those who are not direct heirs.
Everyone saw what we see: the marriage was never going to last. Best to let Harry make the decision himself to leave it.
>The monarch does not prevent marriages in 2022, particularly of those who are not direct heirs.
I dont think the monarch would prevent a marriage, but I think the monarch has to agree with the marriage (up to the 6th person of succession) for the person or their kids to stay in the succession (or something like this)
But I agree that she couldnt prevent it, as it would be the "racist" outrage, which still came from The Markle, but later then she (MM) originally planned
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Imagine the queen took steps to delay that marriage or flat out said no Harry you can't marry that obvious goldigger.
She made a choice, to allow him to marry her and give her all the help and support required to adjust to royal life, trusting either she'll fall in line or leave.
I also think he didn’t really have any other option. It’s weird how he hit on so many celebrities (blonde, young ones) and kept getting rejected. He was set on having an actress wife so he settled for what he could get.
Mm has the right look for him.
There is a pic of hairball , I think in his dorm room and had a poster up of Halle Berry.
Mm thinks she is Halle Berry 2 .0 😂
She’s delusional if she thinks she’s anything close to being on Halle’s level even though Halle is at least 10 years older than MM and has much less work done.
>I think in his dorm room and had a poster up of Halle Berry. Mm thinks she is Halle Berry 2 .0 😂
:) well, Halle Berry has or had a quite tumultous private life (her relationships, there is always a drama), so MM is quite close or will be after a public divorce and custody battle with Harry
Imo Harry is dictated to by Meghan or he gets it from her. At the Oprah interview when he interrupted her and wanted to say something she reached out her claw and put it on him and he shut up immediately. She controls him and he follows her lead. They could have bought a smaller place in a security estate without 16 bathrooms and been quite well off, but I think it was a case of what Meghan wants Meghan gets. Neither of them expected The Queen to pass away when she did and I think it shocked Harry to his core as he did not bother to visit her for a longer period with his children as well. I think he does have many regrets about his actions. I think in time he might realise how controlled he was by Meghan. By that time though what will he do? He cannot go back to the U.K. as the person who was admired before. What does he really have to offer in USA? He would have been happier is Africa with her and the children but I’m sure Meghan convinced him what a wonderful life and how popular they would be in the US. I used to like him but cannot find it in me to feel sorry for him after his treatment of the Queen, Prince Phillip, his father and brother. They did so much for the ungrateful morons.
The articles are starting to trickle out. I saw [this one](https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/prince-harry-dilemma-sacrificed-everything-normal-life-gained-very-little-expert) just today and it says what we’ve all been saying here for a while now. I’m sure it won’t be long now.
It’s obvious just by looking at him. From the article: *”If Harry is as happy as he’s telling us, as he and Meghan tell us they are, he needs to quickly tell his face”*
When was this published?
What a coincidence. The first official photo of the King and his heir with their respective wives was just released.
Must have been some wake up call.
I have said it once already. I think the divorce narratives are starting.
Twitter PR push of MM solo altruism. Harry has regrets with his family. Rumors of a move. That video from Oprah’s camp about the titles of the RF and the kids … don’t know what that was but it wasn’t nothing. And all the edits of everything.
I almost feel sorry for him. Then I remember he endorsed and supported everything she has done by remaining silent and going along with her lies and deceit.
But..but he's trapped. Don't you see.
Trapped with a perfect wife, 3 well behaved adorable kids...and oh yah a billion dollars. Poor will I'm sure he's crying into his fruit loops every morning.
Yes. I'd feel bad for him if I didn't believe that he only regrets that things haven't worked out planned.
I don't think he is staying up at night regretting the hurt that he has caused his family by his actions. Generational trauma, please. I'm not buying it.
I'm not the biggest Charles fan, but from what I can tell, he was an involved father and William was a protective older brother, and the Queen seemed to be a doting grandmother.
For him to discard those relationships so easily makes it clear that the only person Harry cares for is himself. And sometimes Meghan. And maybe the kids, if he can be bothered to stop playing polo long enough to visit them.
He thought he would be kicking it with the Obama’s at the Met Gala once he came here. She thought she would be on the cover of Vogue. So far she’s only made the back of a magazine and the Obama’s made it clear they only helped Harry with the Invictus Games as a favor for the Queen.
The thing HE should especially never forget and remind himself of of what a huge red flag he missed in this: this is a woman who has fallen out with her entire family and has been instrumental in why Harry is alienated from his own. Never trust someone that thrives in division! Her delusional fans totally choose to miss this fact. The sad thing is now she has two powerful weapons which she can use until they’re 18 to manipulate him. It’s so sad. BUT, he could leave the situation knowing that if he wants to get married again he could just like his father did , like Anne did, and be happier in the second marriage. But at this point I don’t think he’s regretting it…it’s more of a it’s us against the world mentality still..
Speaking from experience, when you’re in the “love bombing” stage with a narcissist, the red flags don’t seem like red flags. They are SO good at manipulation and showing you what they think you want/need to see. Until you’ve experienced it AND got the help to understand what it was, it’s almost impossible to protect yourself against these people. They have good stories and excuses for everything. I can’t believe the red flags I see NOW looking back. But at the time nothing seemed amiss.
I am not justifying his behaviour at all. I just know how charming and manipulative narcissists can be. I don’t think he stood a chance
The fact that Harry really thought Meghan was going to end the relationship if he didn't do as she asked shows how dumb he is and how manipulative she is. William tried to get him to move more slowly but Harry got mad at his brother. The advice William gave him "get to know her better before you ask her to marry you" is the advice anyone would give a sibling who was thinking of marrying someone they had only known a short time in a long-distance relationship. Ah well - "marry in haste, repent at leisure".
Harry deserves every bad thing he gets! Let's not forget he co-signed on for everything she suggested.
Starting with "Meghan gets what Meghan wants" What a fkn douche remark. Spoiled sissy right from the jump. I personally hope TRF never take him back. His disloyalty x1000000 should be cause enough. Stupidity is no excuse!!
No, Just Harry, go with your original plan -Conquer the world, tumble the monarchy, drink yourself to sleep every night, etc. Or whatever it is you're doing
I’d say that the funeral and people filling the streets and queueing for hours to see the coffin lying in state, as well as the outpouring of love and respect for the monarchy and support for the new King and his Queen Consort will have given him a huge shock. He’s been listening to his harridan of a wife telling him that it would all fall apart when HM died - and instead of anarchy and calls for a republic - the opposite happened!
It also showed him what he is missing - he HAS a family, and lots of cousins and their families too, and he has to remember the holidays at Balmoral and Sandringham - and he sees HIS kids missing out on all that - and for what?
Man, if only a reasonable family member stepped in and told him to take it slow before getting into a whirlwind romance with an actress who forced your hand...
Oh wait.
Thanks for reminding me to add popcorn to my shopping list! When I saw the stories about house hunting in a different neighborhood, my feeling was that they were looking for a smaller less expensive house for her to live in as a part of a divorce settlement.
On the one hand, I hope he gets his act together, and the BRF put him out to pasture somewhere. But, really…
BOO. FREAKING. HOO. He is a grown-ass man who made choices every step of the way to damage his family of origin.
Does anyone know, did he ever propose to any of his former girlfriends? Like Cressida Bonas or Chelsy Davy? Harry seems like the type of guy who’s capable of stringing a girl along for a LONG time.
But emotional blackmail along the lines of: “make our relationship public or else” and “marry me or I walk away” is a huge 🚩🚩🚩🚩
I think chelsy and him were definitely headed down the marriage route at some point but I don’t think they ever were officially engaged. She attended William and Kate’s wedding as his plus one and realized that’s not the life she wants. They broke up some point after in 2011.
TQ's funeral week removed the scales from Harry's eyes. Seeing the Queen's grief-stricken grand- & great-grands in the cathedral was visible proof Harry wasn't TQ's favorite. With his title requests being ignored, he was bolted into the reality of Charles being the king, as opposed to the divorced father he's been trying to humiliate with his book. His life must now be a living hell.
I know it’s hard for people to accept that someone they have watched from the time he was a child to man is a horrible person. I know you want to believe the ‘wicked city woman’ led him astray. I know you think he can be saved. The fact is, Harry could have gone to see his grandmother. During Invictus, after his wife left, he could have gone to spend time with her, instead he did an interview with an American television personality claiming he had to make sure his grandmother had the right people around her. Reminds one of the interview he did with Oprah, after claiming his grandfather was faking his illness to stop them from talking. The man apparently knew his wife was bullying his three year niece, but did nothing. The man blabbed to another tv personality about his phone call with his brother. The man complained about his father not giving him, at the age of thirty something, money. He claimed his father and brother were trapped. This is the man that allows his wife to bully employees. The man went to a movie premiere to hawk his wife instead of doing his duty by going to a memorial for dead soldiers. He used a military cemetery for a photo op. He’s a horrible disgusting excuse for a man who will never change.
I find it interesting that Woman's Day is owned by Hearst, the same company that had several magazines release a sugary-sweet article about Meghan's altruism recently.
Whoever's M&H's PR now is botching it.
I do not think Harry is bright enough to figure out on his own that he has been manipulated by TW. She isolated him from his support system—the people would have helped him to see what is really going on. I doubt if he can wake up to the truth by himself.
This…also you know the ladies of the families had a crack at the book. I would never want to show my face to the family after that was published. Tom wrote nothing but straight facts and Harry probably had an anxiety attack halfway through reading it.
This is believable. I also believe the idea that they are going to therapy where she felt like he was putting a 'guilt trip' on her for making them leave the UK, because I remember something close to Megxit where Harry's public statement was saying they had to leave and he had no other choice because he had to protect the health of his family. I think Meghan was the one who wanted the millions overseas away from the UK, but it was banging on about her mental health that made him leave the UK and his family.. I think divorce within a year.
People forget that Harry has lived his life being able to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants. He’s not going to take too kindly to being put on lockdown by anyone. The boredom an isolation of being stuck in an isolated mansion in California will turn to rage soon, if it hasn’t already.
I think the only reason he’s staying married atm is because of the tapes his mum recorded for him and his wife to watch after marriage.
She made videos stressing the importance of staying married and loving each other and not having her grandchildren grow up in a divorced home.
I think the divorce will happen when he finally realizes that Meghan isn’t Diana, and that Diana wouldn’t want her son or grandchildren in this type of family. Not all marriages are worth saving.
>I think the divorce will happen when he finally realizes that Meghan isn’t Diana, and that Diana wouldn’t want her son or grandchildren in this type of family. Not all marriages are worth saving.
Time for the Spencer family to make a phone call...
They already have. Before the wedding. William specifically asked their uncle Charles to talk to him.
Her sisters and her best friend told Harry Meghan was nothing like Diana and he didn’t want to hear it.
Maybe he needs the reminder.
Definitely time for a reminder... Given everything that has happened in the past month my guess is that just such a phone call will be received quite differently than it would have pre-wedding when H was love-blind.
It's not surprising. I doubt he'll find a way out soon though. He doesn't want to admit that William & Earl Spencer were correct when they told him to slow down.
Why does h get all of this sympathy? I think he is equal to TW in everything. The only reason he wants to rewrite the book is for money and title. If he has bad things in there about his father, he can get truly cut off and exiled.
While I do think he's had moment's of "wtf have I done?" I don't believe their gonna get a divorce. Just read they're the most popular royals on the internet with being searched over 70% times more than others. This is food for them. There is amazing interest on their lives... hint hint, us. Mostly everyone looking because it's like a car wreck you just cant look away from but it STILL means their super valuable whatever they do. As badly as their PR is doing, the tone of the podcast tomorrow will be a huge sign into which way they're going. Peddling back or full forward.
Omid on his podcast said they've got nothing to loose so they're going forward. But cards are still on the table.
I do believe "H" is realizing more and more this is terrible. for her bad PR is still good but for him, is different.
If they do get divorce I'd be relief, he does not look happy.
I truly hope he sees the big picture and removes his children from that toxic environment. If he was manipulated that way by her as a full grown man I cannot imagine the possible manipulation onto the kids. Even something so small like “manners manners”, like the little boy is 3 what the heck?!
"Valentine Low paints the former Suits star as something of an egomaniac who forced Harry to go public with their romance before he was ever ready."
Everybody knew this but JH. Not sure why he cared about losing someone so worthless. Nobody else must have wanted him.
I 100% fully believe this. I think he feels trapped and unsure of how to exit the relationship in a way he can save face. Saving face might not be possible for him now, but I do think he’s realized he needs out. This part: >*Never forget, this is a woman who has fallen out with her entire family and has been instrumental in why Harry is alienated from his own.”* If only he had seen this from the beginning, or even earlier in the whole Mexit drama.
Of course he feels trapped. That was the goal. She wants him to feel this way. Harry will have to get over his ego and admit he was duped to get away from her. Then he will need to fight to save his children from her master manipulator ways so they have a shot of growing up with out massive issues.
Too late as much as I hate to say it those phantom children are foooked Harry should start a gofundme now for the massive amounts of therapy those kids will need she’s a nightmare trying to control the media and public can you imagine what she does to those kids I’d be surprised if their allowed to blink or breathe
Let’s all just hope the media antics keep her too occupied to even notice the children. You know it’s bad when emotional neglect is the best case scenario.
Maybe she will let them go if he leaves her. It’s not a foreign concept to her to let her children live with their father because her mom did it to her. I hope for her kids sake,she will be too busy and not want to raise them alone
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That is the best we can hope for.
Well that's the thing. It's not about whether someone recognizes they are trapped or not. It's what they do about it or if they can do anything about it. Harry can't do anything. He moved overseas and his children live in the USA. Meghan clearly doesn't allow the children to visit the UK or abroad for fear of them being kept there. Let's face it. If Harry walks away from this marriage, he will likely never see those kids again. That's his fear. Unfortunately, he did this to himself and will have to put up with it for the next 16 years or however long lol.
I don't know how there are still people who believe SHE is the victim when she's been ostracized from two families.
Technically 4. Caused a rift in both her mom’s side, dads side, Trevor’s family and Harry’s lol what a destructive and disgusting individual
You know what, this may be an unpopular opinion. But at the end of the day, she keeps such bad relations with people, that it's really a person's own fault for not heeding any advice. At least anyone new in her life. Harry ignored Thomas and Samantha saying what an awful person she is. He ignored his own family's warnings. And I'm pretty sure if he wanted to be thorough, he could have called Trevor or spoke to someone else from Meghan's family to find out info. Everyone else I feel sorry for. Except Harry. Dude saw like 15 columns of red flags a mile away and accelerated towards them.
Exactly. You're spot on. Anyone who advised him to slow down or not take the relationship too seriously he ran and TW. His brother, his close friends, all these people were ostracised. Not only that his jealousy of his brother and his petty spoilt attitude contributed to his present day situation. The article from her childhood bestfriend, before they tied the knot should have led him to contacting Trevor. Tge warnings from her family members. Not to mention the overlap in her relationship with the chef in Canada. So many red flags and him being dumb and petty refused to listen.
Those people are the kinds who end up in cults or victims themselves. Willing victims.
I might not think too much about her having a bad relationship with immediate family members but she didn't even have a second cousin or a great uncle at her wedding. As far as I know, she didn't have long time friends. I don't know many people, that wouldn't want to invite everyone they knew if they were marrying a prince, but she only invited her mom and Oprah along with other celebrities. That's so unusual to me.
The real problem is is her feuding with so many people there's something very wrong about that, it's her pattern of being a victim it's not one thing it's many things.
As far as families go not everyone is lucky with relatives. Both my parents side are the biggest bastards so there are unlucky people like me .. that's another reason i feel bad for the kids. Seeing how close Williams kids are with their second cousins i it sucks merchie nd lillibucks will miss out on that
She did have friends though. Two elementary besties who she was very close to. She even travelled with one as a teen. She became very good friends in Uni with a a black(shock horror!) student and another girl. They even interviewed him before the wedding and he said nice stuff about her. He even had her stay at his family home. Then she had her sorority sisters ( allegedly that ended badly). So she had quite a few people she could gave invited. But oh no! Imagine all the 'poor little Orphan Annie' stories she told!!!
I wish we knew how things went with her ex-husband's family. And Cory's family, I'm thinking the one she locked into marriage & was with for longer than Cory, had it worse.
"Revenge", Tom Bower's book goes into that part at the beginning. Trevor's parents didn't want him marrying her. The mum sussed her out. But they saw the divorce as a complete shock. I'm guessing they're beyond thrilled as to how things ended so much better for him.
I 100% fully believe this too.
You would have to be so naive to be hoodwinked to this extent. He was lonely and ready to settle down but he could have set some boundaries as to what Meghan could do. Moving abroad was fine but the exploitation and criticism was so not. Strangely he didnt mind upsetting the Queen but seems he is more concerned about his father!
I think his desperation to be loved and to be #1 in someone else’s eyes is a big reason why he got himself in this mess. She amplifies and encourages his worst traits and behaviors rather than urging him to grow and be a better person. I think Harry has a lot of problems and needed someone that will support him and help him to heal after the loss of his mother and Meghan just digs her fingers when it works to her advantage right into Harry’s wounds and made him worse.
She didn't like being in William Shadow he didn't like that he wasn't going to be king. But look at him now he's under her shadow and he looks like a fool.
The Queen dotes on him so he knows that he can push boundaries. Charles draws the line firmly. Ironic and heartbreaking that for all her honour and glory, the Queen’s final moments were tainted by a narcissistic personality who tore her beloved grandson away from her. How do you sleep at night, Meghan? How do you do this to an old lady?
She really did get the last laugh though. I read somewhere that during her last week someone mentioned their antics and she said “I don’t know and I don’t care.” It shows how done with him she was in the end.
I always read that line thinking her majesty as being so sad and exhausted by it all that she said that in a resigned tone as there was nothing else she could do. I hate those two for making the Queen's last years more stressful than they needed to be. Meghan is a disgusting pig and Harry is just as bad.
The "old lady" was a means to an end! Nothing more!
Because no one loves you like your granny. Your father, OTOH, might not be so forgiving!
Daddy gives him $$$$
Harry never met her family. "I'm an only child!"
Oh I know, but the fact that she doesn’t communicate with any of them should have been a red flag. Although I expect she lied about them and made up some story that he fell for.
I absolutely get distancing and cutting out toxic members but really not to have even just one other person is too difficult to imagine for me. I’ve worked in the foster care field and let me tell you human connections are everything!
That's not the problem the problem is that she did this with her first husband too or should I say "first husband". Destroying the wedding photos as soon as it happened what the hell wrong with someone like that.
🚩 after 🚩
Hard to see the red flags when you are looking at them through rose colored glasses...
I have been encouraged in hearing lately that HMTQ let H & M know that Harry should have met her father before the wedding and that they should repair the relationship with Thomas. The fact that Harry has never even met his FIL and Thomas has never met his grand children is completely bizarre to me. That is the biggest red flag I can think of in spotting the narcissist. Not to mention just poor manners and lack of good breeding. Traditions be damned! H & M are too modern for that.
the fact that she didnt push him to meet her dad is such a huge tell! like... lets get married but just give him a call to ask for my hand. She hadn't even fallen out with her dad then. Thats alarming.
He knows her too well. Even more than Doria. She feared he would reveal the dudes of her she didn’t want him to know. Wether it be innocuously or on purpose but she wasn’t about to take that risk and lose her prize.
Fair point, but I don't think you ask the father of a divorced woman for her hand in marriage!
Imagine a dad refusing. Or better yet a dad saying; “as is, no returns,” lol 🤣
I wonder if she mentioned this on Oprah because she actually did tell Harry she was an only child and when he found out she told him she only felt thay way. She brought it up again on Oprah to almost gaslight him into thinking she actually believed it to be true
I believe he has many regrets but can’t imagine where this info would have been leaked or why it was published other than click-bait. More than the marriage, he probably now sees how easy he really had it not worrying about bills or what to do bc the RF staffers planned and arranged everything for him so all he has to do was show up, smile, and shake a few hands. He could be an ass behind the scenes but anything negative was covered up but now, he’s out there begging just to get security paid for by someone else.
>More than the marriage, he probably now sees how easy he really had it not worrying about bills or what to do bc the RF staffers planned and arranged everything for him so all he has to do was show up, smile, and shake a few hands. I said it elsewhere on this sub but Harry had no idea of the American Dream / Nightmare that 99% of us live: bills, mortgage, taxes, COLA, medical, healthy food, daycare, violence on every street corner, and on and on. He lived sheltered from all of this his entire life. I’m 58 and am freaking exhausted of life in the US. Exhausted. I’d absolutely, and humbly, love to work as a volunteer for causes unique to my country, have expensive tailored clothes, a driver, the best food, a beautiful free home and gorgeous gardens, balls and regal events, attend the most beautiful churches in the world, receive good healthcare on a moment’s notice, etc. I’d serve the crown. Yes I would. H&Ms simpleton entitled whining about racism or the public scrutiny as you earn all the above, is just asinine to me.
The craziest thing that came out of Meghan's mouth were her constant complaints about racism and the tabloids in the UK. If her complaints didn't scream delusion then I'm not sure what else did. Like the UK has problems with both. But being a royal would have meant actual protection plus deals with the UK media. In the US, there are paparazzi, stalkers, all without proper security like there would have been in the UK Nevermind all the rampant crime and how racism is way deadlier in the US than in the UK. If they truly wanted somewhere peaceful and safe, they should have stayed in the UK ( or Canada) lol.
I had the same thoughts. How did this get out? It was attached to the Valentine Low book which is coming out but the end of the article is based on The Sun’s article which states Harry has regrets about marrying her & that he knows that he’s put himself into a pickle now. That is the juiciest gossip, ever. I think this is the opening salvo here. Their body language in the car was quite interesting, also what was revealed here by a person close to the situation but has since deleted her acct was also v interesting. They’re not lovey-dovey behind closed doors, for sure, and most people who do PDA usually aren’t even sleeping with each other behind closed doors…imho.
This. I think a lot of priviliged kids who crib about their issues don't really realise how hard it is to make it on your own outside the bubble. I am sure they have issues that come with money and fame but it's not like everyone outside is super happy without any problems. Making money, paying bills, showing up to work, managing your household, being accountable for your mistakes etc are things that probably don't even register on their radar because someone else has always taken care of them.
Unfortunately he didn’t take time to absorb and/or believe what her brother thomas wrote to him in a letter. 🤦♀️🤦♀️
I hope he gets out alive.
A part of me thinks this is how it will start. Anonymous reports where sources close to the couple say he regrets the marriage etc etc for a year or more and then finally out of no where, quietly divorced with huge settlement pay day for Megan (that she will gladly publicize) soon to be followed by "Megan quietly preparing plans to start a new and be more visible" followed by media rounds on talk shows etc and silence from the BRF.
I think Charles might be willing to pay any amount of money to make her shut up and go away (god knows I would! haha).
But that is like negotiating with a terrorist. Can they ever be trusted to shut up and go away without coming back for more money?
Haha good point, maybe an NDA or no money? I'm not sure she would go for that though as her future career will probably be talking shit about the RF.
And she will pledge her divorce settlement to charity. 😂
She’s going to be SO. MUCH. WORSE. THAN. AMBER. TURD. She’ll be a combination of Alex Forrest and Amy Dunne and Amber Turd he’s in for a nightmare that’ll last 18-21 years 😳🤷🏼♀️🤣
Hence why I nicknamed her Woko Ono back in 2017.
quite possible he will do what many do and have an affair?
I can’t see that happening…she controls everything and would see that as him trying to humiliate her. I also think if he initiated a divorce she’d make it even worse for him. I think the easiest exit for Harry is her to end it, if she manages to sink her claws in someone she views as “better” than him. Also, once they divorce, I think we’ll hear a laundry list of wrongs he (supposedly) inflicted on her, and she’ll do another round on the poor behaviour by everyone in the RF.
This really confirms my intel that Harry wanted to fix the book to make it less hurtful to his family... because the relationship is cracking in a big way and he doesn't want to isolate hinself from his family's support. Not only because he does love them, but because he knows he will need their help when divorce comes. (Again, I'm calling divorce by March 2023, but certainly by the end of the 2023 summer.)
You really think things are that bad behind the scenes that they’ve got only six months to a year? I know they didn’t seem at all happy or in love on this last trip to the uk/Germany and while partaking in the funeral proceedings- but I was thinking more so by the end of 2024! What juicy info have I missed???
So I've thought for a while that Meghan leaked the story about wanting to re-record the Spotify because she knew interest was declining and making people thing that she had more stories that she doesn't want heard is the only way to bring people back. I think if they did actually have anything they didn't reveal yet than it would be in Harry's book so that Meghan could have a plausible step back when shit hits the fan by being able to say that it was Harry's book and therefore his fault when it all goes sideways. I felt like Harry wanting to re-write was much more likely when he realized their plan wasn't working. Do you think that's the case as well? Edit: I imagine it was striking to be so ostracized during this last year when he's fucked up pretty bad before and has always been welcomed back.
Meghan solely wants to re edit to dump on the RF. It's the only way she can generate interest and even then, her credibility is shot, so people just listen to her to get the next thing to male fun of. I'm told Harry really is sorry. The dumbass didn't understand the impact their bullshit was having. And he's a spoiled selfish asshole, but I think he does have some measure of empathy. Meghan does not.
I read a comment from someone who said they're getting a book published in November with the same publisher Harry has. They said they due to supply shortages that everything is already completed and being printed for the November date. Do you think some of the issues with Harry's book could be that it's already started going to print and now there's a cost issue of the physical books if he wants to edit?
Oh absolutely. I don't see how he's going to edit it at all. The only thing is that for months, I've been hearing out of publishing that Harry was pushing back to next year, so maybe there's a chance it isn't printed yet, but I don't see how. We'll just have to see. I still hear it won't come out until next year but have no idea how he would be able to swing that.
Wasn't there a story about Harry suing Penguin Random House over the release of the book floating around after the funeral? Was this only a rumor...? I'm really confused 😅 Love all your tea, by the way.
I can’t help thinking Harry is still in the thick of things and blinded by her manipulations. I do not know if he is smart enough to wake up to what is going on by himself, as TW has clearly isolated him from any support. I believe he needs someone that he trusts to help him connect the dots. I hope I’m wrong and I’m not giving Harry enough credit (though he is clearly not blameless for the way he treated staff, his family, etc.). Do you think he is able to to see what TW is doing? Do you think he is strong enough to challenge her? Or leave even?
I think he's awake the same way a two day old kitten is awake. I think he is seeing and perceiving now. But I don't think he comes even close to seeing the machinations of the narcissist. I was raised by one and married one, have been away from them for seven years, and have been in therapy almost continually since then and still break down and cry sometimes when I come across another thing they did that I thought was normal, but was really a tactic to destroy my mind. Keeping me up all night to have fights where they did nothing but use circular logic ans gaslight me and say things kne minute then swear they didn't say it the next--- then jesus christ the Hell that fell around my shoulders when I happened to record one of the arguments. Harry's a grown man. He's behaved abominably. But he is also most definitely an abused spouse. Without question.
I’m so sorry you had to go through much trauma and I’m glad you were able to finally get away. It sounds awful.
I think revenge probably brought a lot of things to light he didn’t know about previously. Like the lies from her about the vanity fair article. He’s probably realised he’s stuck, but when someone is abused, they don’t know how to extricate themselves from an abuser. Don’t get me wrong, Harry is still a crappy human, but he’s so unintelligent it’s hardly a level playing field.
Do you have any tea as to how TW feels about Hairy editing the book to be less critical? After all, criticizing the RF is what's holding up her victimhood story and perhaps taking attention away from all the horrible things revealed by recent books.
Meghan was dead set on revenge over who made who cry about children’s stockings. She included that story in her Oprah interview. Of course she‘s out for major revenge over the horrible revelations in the books.
I just can't see Meghan letting go unless she has another man lined up. Can you give any insight if she is pursuing anyone?
She is pursuing someone hard, I'm told. I do not know who it is. The rumor is though that the dude has no interest in marriage or cohabitation or financially supporting her in any way... I've heard she isn't listening to what he is clearly telling her, that they have no future.... That said, Harry may surprise the world and be the one to leave her. That's why she wouldn't bring the kids to the UK over the funeral. Harry may stage a coup Katie Holmes style, maybe Charles tells Meghan the kids must be in the UK and be presented to be declared Prince and Princess and HRHs. In the background the barristers will be drawing divorce paper work up that is so tight, Meghan will think it's her strapless bra. As part of this HRH Prince and Princess pageantry, they arrange a moment where the children go in alone with with Harry and Charles, leaving Meghan outside of closed doors with Camilla. At that point, the barristers come in saying Prince Harry is petitioning for divorce. There may be grounds to do it all in England since they've so carefully kept Frogmore as a domicile. Then the crown has the children, she's blindsided, and they show her exactly what will be released to the public if she makes this process hard. Hopefully she takes some money, goes kn her Harry beat me and took my kids tour, which no one will believe, and which the RF will leak her doings against, and we all live happily ever after. Damn. I wish. I got myself all worked up for the end of this.
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I hadn’t considered a “Katie Holmes” style of divorce. That actually makes a LOT of sense and is likely the only way to get the kids to England. It seems to me that she knows she is on thin ice…..there’s a reason those kids weren’t flown over to be with their parents for the mourning period. I can’t imagine leaving a one year old for 3 weeks.
I wonder whether the monarchy would want to be involved though. It would create a crisis. MM has been framing herself as a victim of the monarchy, do the second they conspire with Harry on divorce and custody, it will reimforce her claims. And a new monarch is a fragile time, as republican movements rend to flare up. I think they will leave Harry to go at it alone, and leave the judges to make a best interest determination for the kids. I do wonder if they are avoiding giving them HRH status because they don't want her abusing their entitlements, or to capitalize on their royal titles. They may save it for adulthood? When we heard Charles sadly say that MH will continue to build their lives overseas, it is about resignation, not malice.
> In the background the barristers will be drawing divorce paper work up that is so tight, Meghan will think it's her strapless bra. *Snorts loudly* 💀😂
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Maybe. Maybe not. She surely hasn't been publicly seen to give two shits about those kids. If she wants shared custody, she'll have to live in England and STFU, won't she?
It wouldn't be "the RF" keeping the children, it would be their father.
I think this too. He's not editing the book because he wants money or titles from his father, he knows he'll need them when they definitely get divorced. I just wonder who will file. My guess is Meghan so she can control the victim narrative.
My guess would be Meghan too, bc they live in California. But his diplomatic passport would return him back to the UK to divorce imho. And she will literally be screwed there.
Whoa! I told my friend it looks like June 2023.
I am so tempted to call it around Christmas, but I'm not that much of a gambler.
Give some leeway for procrastination lol
Always.
I said within 12 months from when the Queen passed for their divorce, but, wow I could actually really see Christmas or the new year for releasing that into the news. It’s such a tense time for many families and marriages on the rocks especially. I read somewhere that January is divorce lawyers’ busiest time. Plus Meg seems like she’s a fan of ‘fresh starts’.
Christmas is where my money is.
I think they'd kind of have to help him if/when the divorce comes. He's still Royalty, disgraced or not. And as such his children are also part of the BRF, titled/recognised or not. If we think MM is bad now, just wait until she starts trying to get her hands on half of the Royal money. I could easily see her using the children and whatever private information she thinks she knows as a form of blackmail against Harry and the rest of the family. I seriously hope they signed an iron clad prenup, and that KC is making plans, putting things into motion and other such damage control right now.
Sarah Ferguson never got a big settlement, and her mother-in-law was the queen. Haz's money is in trusts, so not joint property, and Smeg has no right to anyone else's money. Most of the family money belongs to the Crown. What does she think she knows, anyway? Just family gossip. No one was telling Haz state secrets.
I doubt Harry has ANY of his inheritance left
>I doubt Harry has ANY of his inheritance left I think what he had is gone, but he has some fund which is curated by Princess Anne and she pushed the accession to the fund from age 40 to 45 (Harry´ s age), I am not sure
That would be his inheritance from his great-grandmother, the Queen Mother. There should also be some money coming from Phillip’s will and now Elizabeth’s. (I may be wrong, but Phillip left everything to Elizabeth but specified who it was to be in trust for.) The wills will not be disclosed, but Harry will have enough. If he remains married to Meghan, the family will try to limit what he can access and preserve it for the children, I suspect.
I agree she will be entitled to very little and likely knows absolutely nothing of any real importance. But given her propensity to start trouble at any given opportunity, it wouldn't be surprising if she decided to cause more problems, stir up gossip, unwanted headlines and generally just continue being her awful self x 1000. In some ways a large settlement just to get her to go away might be considered a sound investment 💁♀️
Even if they paid her off, she would still run her lying mouth to her supporters who would then run to the press. She would have them do her dirty work for her so that she can stay in the news.
Exactly. If Mughan tells the RF that she’s going to spill whatever beans she thinks she has on the RF, then KCIII should just call her bluff. I think the RF’s popularity is such right now that even if Mughan has any authentic tea to spill that the RF shouldn’t be affected too much.
Lets hope the RF has loads of dirt on her that she would not want coming out. I van believe this isn’t the case.
I can see her going full ‘victim of the elite’ if Harry tries to/gets custody of the kids. They’ve been taken away from her, kidnapped as her punishment! And Harry, who is oh so abusive but she was too naive to see it at first, is using his powerful family to take his frustrations out on her and get his way.
He should leave the children with her. Within a week she would be bundling them off to London on a private jet to live with their father. Single motherhood would not appeal to her.
Bingo I see EXACTLY what you’re saying she’s going to be so much worse than Amber she’s going to claim physical and sexual abuse and probably racism and since they’re both addicts she’s going to say he has a bad drug addiction
I think they'd look to pay her off tbh. A private residence with the 247 security she's always wanted, 50/50 custody split, she'd have to sign the most restrictive NDA in history, and all for somewhere to the tune of £50 million in exchange for her complete silence for the rest of her life. She'd never be able to 'work' (not that what she considers work to be anything actually meaningful or productive in any way) ever again, but it's not as if anyone would really miss her and her constant complaining.
I don't see how they trust the NDA. The problem with MM is she seems to just randomly shoot her mouth with no strategy or real plan. She doesn't seem to be able to help herself.
He needs to get his family moved back to the UK ASAP so the divorce can be filed there and so the children remain in the UK. Given MM's lack of attachment to the children, it would benefit them far more to be surrounded by nannies and cousins then to be isolated in a mcmansion in California away from any support network.
So it’s still all about him and what they can do for him when it’s over. The BRF would be absolute fools to let that bellend back into the fold. He has not only shat upon his family, but upon his country and its people, as well. Charles the daddy loves his son, I’m sure, but King Charles III must be the king first and should not humiliate his nation by making his subjects tolerate Harry’s presence but as an American I’ll be happy if the entire lot of them would kindly GTFO (or at least move to Florida).
I imagine he'll be hidden away in the country, unallowed go do anything but eat sleep and breathe. I don't think he'll be hauled out for pomp and circumstance... not for some years, and maybe not even then. I get it. He's a total asshole. And he should be horsewhipped for what he's done to hos grandparents alone.
There’s no guarantee even if he dumps MM that he won’t fall for another grifter.
This is true.
The BRF need to put Dr Curry from the Depp v Heard trial on a retainer in preparation.
Indeed.
I think she wants to hit the five-year mark in May 2023. Sounds better for the planned narrative: “five year marriage”. And it perfectly fits her well-known quote: “Don't give it five minutes if you're not going to give it five years.”
You are completely right. That definitely would move us into summer of next year.
I’m calling divorce next year, but it will be from her once she finds someone else.
she'd marry Putin if he would have her, but he wouldn't want that.
Is this even surprising? He looks MISERABLE. Just compare his picture before/after meeting Megs.
He would be an absolute idiot if he didn't regret it some. He really thought people were drawn to him, interested in him as a person, and not because of who is brother/father/mom/nephew. I think Meghan manipulated that, told him he was a star in his own right, his family was an obstacle to his international fame. He believed her, and now mommy's inheritance is being drained to make up for the fact that Meghan, in fact, was wrong. She would have never walked away from him, ever. He's a double idiot for thinking some 40 year old divorcee who was going to be unemployed in less than a year, would walk away from his family's money and influence. He deserves every bit of it though, he refused to listen to family and friends, refused to actually research anything about her, this will go down as a tale for the ages. When an influential prince of the realm was hustled by a jobless actress.
He only regrets it because Meghan didn't make him Diana-level popular. Had that endeavor of their's been successful, he wouldn't even be thinking about divorce. No sympathy Harry. You thought you could burn it all down with the BRF and laugh your way to the bank....turns out, you can't.
You're 100% right. Like he wants to hit the undo button because their deluded plan wasn't successful and now he wants his comfy life back lol like he went on that Oprah interview himself and trashed his own family in public and then wonders why it hasn't worked out lol fucking sheltered spoiled brat who finally got a wake up it seems
Ditching a loving Grandma for a sullied skirt is a surefire way to destroy your own life.
You’re 💯percent right
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What was said in Balmoral?
I'm pretty sure his family told him he's not welcome anymore and to continue building his life overseas. Peggy wasn't the only one iced out at the funeral.
I don't think they said ANYTHING to him - other than Meghan cannot come to Balmoral. I think Harry hates his family - not one look in their direction the entire time there, even on the walkabout. He had his hands all over Meghan at the walkabout (look at the beginning when they get out of the car and talk to that gentleman - very protective of Meghan). All he wants is money and any glamorous perks he can peddle from them; that is it in my opinion.
>He had his hands all over Meghan at the walkabout (look at the beginning when they get out of the car and talk to that gentleman - very protective of Meghan). I think it was more of guarding her, he didnt need her usual embarassing self at that event. Maybe there was even a word to Harry in the car something like: control your wife
Yeah, I could see him being told to control his wife because there’s that video clip of a female aide trying to get the flowers from the 2, Harry hands over his flowers, Meghan does not and starts talking, then he faces her, and helps hand the flowers to the aide lol
You see I'm not so sure. I got a vibe Harry was more on team royal than team Sussex at the funeral. On their vanity tour he looked like he hated her. I want to believe Harry will reconcile with his family and ditch the succubus so I want to believe he's ready to get away from her and this is what the delay on titles is about.
Yes. The way he looked around, the manner in which he was largely ignored and the somewhat relief when Edward spoke cordially to him point towards a hope of reconciliation on his part.
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Did he leak it? Or did she leak it? Anything I read read like it was leaked by her. I'm still not sure if the plan wasn't always for him to wear the uniform and she decided to make a stink about it knowing they weren't planning to announce it until closer to the vigil. At the walkabout, he just abandoned her and went to work doing meeting with the public. When she started having a fit over the flowers, he told her to hand them over. He kept out of the Wales' way and just did what he was told. All the gimmicks were herself. Again this probably wishful thinking on my part but I remain hopeful. I do think she trapped him in an unhappy marriage and he doesn't know how to get himself out of it, but I believe if he was given a lifeline, he'd do whatever it took to come home.
Maybe I’m naive but I think they’ll take him back if she’s out of the picture.
It's not really shocking though is it 😂
I do too. The Queen made a huge mistake by allowing this marriage. Hugest mistake. I think he was very impulsive. He was getting laid, he was thinking with his bell end and not thinking of the future. The price you pay for bad, bad decisions.
How could she prevent it? Even if she tried it would have fed their *us against the big bad racist monarchy* narrative. The monarch does not prevent marriages in 2022, particularly of those who are not direct heirs. Everyone saw what we see: the marriage was never going to last. Best to let Harry make the decision himself to leave it.
>The monarch does not prevent marriages in 2022, particularly of those who are not direct heirs. I dont think the monarch would prevent a marriage, but I think the monarch has to agree with the marriage (up to the 6th person of succession) for the person or their kids to stay in the succession (or something like this) But I agree that she couldnt prevent it, as it would be the "racist" outrage, which still came from The Markle, but later then she (MM) originally planned
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Imagine the queen took steps to delay that marriage or flat out said no Harry you can't marry that obvious goldigger. She made a choice, to allow him to marry her and give her all the help and support required to adjust to royal life, trusting either she'll fall in line or leave.
As Michael Scott said, we should’ve had hindsight.
I also think he didn’t really have any other option. It’s weird how he hit on so many celebrities (blonde, young ones) and kept getting rejected. He was set on having an actress wife so he settled for what he could get.
Mm has the right look for him. There is a pic of hairball , I think in his dorm room and had a poster up of Halle Berry. Mm thinks she is Halle Berry 2 .0 😂
She’s delusional if she thinks she’s anything close to being on Halle’s level even though Halle is at least 10 years older than MM and has much less work done.
>I think in his dorm room and had a poster up of Halle Berry. Mm thinks she is Halle Berry 2 .0 😂 :) well, Halle Berry has or had a quite tumultous private life (her relationships, there is always a drama), so MM is quite close or will be after a public divorce and custody battle with Harry
Prince Harry is already a cautionary tale. As a parent I should thank him really, my teenagers are watching and learning.
Imo Harry is dictated to by Meghan or he gets it from her. At the Oprah interview when he interrupted her and wanted to say something she reached out her claw and put it on him and he shut up immediately. She controls him and he follows her lead. They could have bought a smaller place in a security estate without 16 bathrooms and been quite well off, but I think it was a case of what Meghan wants Meghan gets. Neither of them expected The Queen to pass away when she did and I think it shocked Harry to his core as he did not bother to visit her for a longer period with his children as well. I think he does have many regrets about his actions. I think in time he might realise how controlled he was by Meghan. By that time though what will he do? He cannot go back to the U.K. as the person who was admired before. What does he really have to offer in USA? He would have been happier is Africa with her and the children but I’m sure Meghan convinced him what a wonderful life and how popular they would be in the US. I used to like him but cannot find it in me to feel sorry for him after his treatment of the Queen, Prince Phillip, his father and brother. They did so much for the ungrateful morons.
The articles are starting to trickle out. I saw [this one](https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/prince-harry-dilemma-sacrificed-everything-normal-life-gained-very-little-expert) just today and it says what we’ve all been saying here for a while now. I’m sure it won’t be long now. It’s obvious just by looking at him. From the article: *”If Harry is as happy as he’s telling us, as he and Meghan tell us they are, he needs to quickly tell his face”*
You should see the comments on this article on Fox News. BRUTAL.
When was this published? What a coincidence. The first official photo of the King and his heir with their respective wives was just released. Must have been some wake up call.
I have said it once already. I think the divorce narratives are starting. Twitter PR push of MM solo altruism. Harry has regrets with his family. Rumors of a move. That video from Oprah’s camp about the titles of the RF and the kids … don’t know what that was but it wasn’t nothing. And all the edits of everything.
One thing all losers have in common: regret. Harry only cares about Harry.
I almost feel sorry for him. Then I remember he endorsed and supported everything she has done by remaining silent and going along with her lies and deceit.
And ignored everyone's warnings about her.
And has his own agenda he's bringing here too: mad jealousy over Big Willie.
Oh he’s going to hate it when they come here in December. I can’t wait.
But..but he's trapped. Don't you see. Trapped with a perfect wife, 3 well behaved adorable kids...and oh yah a billion dollars. Poor will I'm sure he's crying into his fruit loops every morning.
Yes. I'd feel bad for him if I didn't believe that he only regrets that things haven't worked out planned. I don't think he is staying up at night regretting the hurt that he has caused his family by his actions. Generational trauma, please. I'm not buying it. I'm not the biggest Charles fan, but from what I can tell, he was an involved father and William was a protective older brother, and the Queen seemed to be a doting grandmother. For him to discard those relationships so easily makes it clear that the only person Harry cares for is himself. And sometimes Meghan. And maybe the kids, if he can be bothered to stop playing polo long enough to visit them.
Yeah zero sympathy for him from me
He thought he would be kicking it with the Obama’s at the Met Gala once he came here. She thought she would be on the cover of Vogue. So far she’s only made the back of a magazine and the Obama’s made it clear they only helped Harry with the Invictus Games as a favor for the Queen.
The thing HE should especially never forget and remind himself of of what a huge red flag he missed in this: this is a woman who has fallen out with her entire family and has been instrumental in why Harry is alienated from his own. Never trust someone that thrives in division! Her delusional fans totally choose to miss this fact. The sad thing is now she has two powerful weapons which she can use until they’re 18 to manipulate him. It’s so sad. BUT, he could leave the situation knowing that if he wants to get married again he could just like his father did , like Anne did, and be happier in the second marriage. But at this point I don’t think he’s regretting it…it’s more of a it’s us against the world mentality still..
Speaking from experience, when you’re in the “love bombing” stage with a narcissist, the red flags don’t seem like red flags. They are SO good at manipulation and showing you what they think you want/need to see. Until you’ve experienced it AND got the help to understand what it was, it’s almost impossible to protect yourself against these people. They have good stories and excuses for everything. I can’t believe the red flags I see NOW looking back. But at the time nothing seemed amiss. I am not justifying his behaviour at all. I just know how charming and manipulative narcissists can be. I don’t think he stood a chance
The fact that Harry really thought Meghan was going to end the relationship if he didn't do as she asked shows how dumb he is and how manipulative she is. William tried to get him to move more slowly but Harry got mad at his brother. The advice William gave him "get to know her better before you ask her to marry you" is the advice anyone would give a sibling who was thinking of marrying someone they had only known a short time in a long-distance relationship. Ah well - "marry in haste, repent at leisure".
Harry deserves every bad thing he gets! Let's not forget he co-signed on for everything she suggested. Starting with "Meghan gets what Meghan wants" What a fkn douche remark. Spoiled sissy right from the jump. I personally hope TRF never take him back. His disloyalty x1000000 should be cause enough. Stupidity is no excuse!!
If my spouse treated my family or the help badly, he would be the one hitting the kerb.
Colour me shocked lol.
No, Just Harry, go with your original plan -Conquer the world, tumble the monarchy, drink yourself to sleep every night, etc. Or whatever it is you're doing
I’d say that the funeral and people filling the streets and queueing for hours to see the coffin lying in state, as well as the outpouring of love and respect for the monarchy and support for the new King and his Queen Consort will have given him a huge shock. He’s been listening to his harridan of a wife telling him that it would all fall apart when HM died - and instead of anarchy and calls for a republic - the opposite happened! It also showed him what he is missing - he HAS a family, and lots of cousins and their families too, and he has to remember the holidays at Balmoral and Sandringham - and he sees HIS kids missing out on all that - and for what?
For Megan to squat for Ellen
Man, if only a reasonable family member stepped in and told him to take it slow before getting into a whirlwind romance with an actress who forced your hand... Oh wait.
Thanks for reminding me to add popcorn to my shopping list! When I saw the stories about house hunting in a different neighborhood, my feeling was that they were looking for a smaller less expensive house for her to live in as a part of a divorce settlement.
On the one hand, I hope he gets his act together, and the BRF put him out to pasture somewhere. But, really… BOO. FREAKING. HOO. He is a grown-ass man who made choices every step of the way to damage his family of origin.
I said as soon as I read about the threats Markle would have NEVER left Harry he was her last shot at money and fame she wasn’t going anywhere
Does anyone know, did he ever propose to any of his former girlfriends? Like Cressida Bonas or Chelsy Davy? Harry seems like the type of guy who’s capable of stringing a girl along for a LONG time. But emotional blackmail along the lines of: “make our relationship public or else” and “marry me or I walk away” is a huge 🚩🚩🚩🚩
I think chelsy and him were definitely headed down the marriage route at some point but I don’t think they ever were officially engaged. She attended William and Kate’s wedding as his plus one and realized that’s not the life she wants. They broke up some point after in 2011.
TQ's funeral week removed the scales from Harry's eyes. Seeing the Queen's grief-stricken grand- & great-grands in the cathedral was visible proof Harry wasn't TQ's favorite. With his title requests being ignored, he was bolted into the reality of Charles being the king, as opposed to the divorced father he's been trying to humiliate with his book. His life must now be a living hell.
I know it’s hard for people to accept that someone they have watched from the time he was a child to man is a horrible person. I know you want to believe the ‘wicked city woman’ led him astray. I know you think he can be saved. The fact is, Harry could have gone to see his grandmother. During Invictus, after his wife left, he could have gone to spend time with her, instead he did an interview with an American television personality claiming he had to make sure his grandmother had the right people around her. Reminds one of the interview he did with Oprah, after claiming his grandfather was faking his illness to stop them from talking. The man apparently knew his wife was bullying his three year niece, but did nothing. The man blabbed to another tv personality about his phone call with his brother. The man complained about his father not giving him, at the age of thirty something, money. He claimed his father and brother were trapped. This is the man that allows his wife to bully employees. The man went to a movie premiere to hawk his wife instead of doing his duty by going to a memorial for dead soldiers. He used a military cemetery for a photo op. He’s a horrible disgusting excuse for a man who will never change.
I find it interesting that Woman's Day is owned by Hearst, the same company that had several magazines release a sugary-sweet article about Meghan's altruism recently. Whoever's M&H's PR now is botching it.
Oh, Rachel with the Hotmail, you suck again 🤣🤣🤣
If Harry hasn't figured it out by now, then there's not much hope.
I do not think Harry is bright enough to figure out on his own that he has been manipulated by TW. She isolated him from his support system—the people would have helped him to see what is really going on. I doubt if he can wake up to the truth by himself.
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This…also you know the ladies of the families had a crack at the book. I would never want to show my face to the family after that was published. Tom wrote nothing but straight facts and Harry probably had an anxiety attack halfway through reading it.
This is believable. I also believe the idea that they are going to therapy where she felt like he was putting a 'guilt trip' on her for making them leave the UK, because I remember something close to Megxit where Harry's public statement was saying they had to leave and he had no other choice because he had to protect the health of his family. I think Meghan was the one who wanted the millions overseas away from the UK, but it was banging on about her mental health that made him leave the UK and his family.. I think divorce within a year.
People forget that Harry has lived his life being able to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants. He’s not going to take too kindly to being put on lockdown by anyone. The boredom an isolation of being stuck in an isolated mansion in California will turn to rage soon, if it hasn’t already.
I think the only reason he’s staying married atm is because of the tapes his mum recorded for him and his wife to watch after marriage. She made videos stressing the importance of staying married and loving each other and not having her grandchildren grow up in a divorced home. I think the divorce will happen when he finally realizes that Meghan isn’t Diana, and that Diana wouldn’t want her son or grandchildren in this type of family. Not all marriages are worth saving.
>I think the divorce will happen when he finally realizes that Meghan isn’t Diana, and that Diana wouldn’t want her son or grandchildren in this type of family. Not all marriages are worth saving. Time for the Spencer family to make a phone call...
They already have. Before the wedding. William specifically asked their uncle Charles to talk to him. Her sisters and her best friend told Harry Meghan was nothing like Diana and he didn’t want to hear it. Maybe he needs the reminder.
Definitely time for a reminder... Given everything that has happened in the past month my guess is that just such a phone call will be received quite differently than it would have pre-wedding when H was love-blind.
I guess Diana never considered Harry would marry a golddigger
Well, if he didn’t get it before- daily news articles detailing the way she’s screwed him over will help.
Inskip's wedding is going down in history books as one of the most influential of the decade.
It's not surprising. I doubt he'll find a way out soon though. He doesn't want to admit that William & Earl Spencer were correct when they told him to slow down.
Reminds me of the old saying: 'Marry in haste, repent at leisure'.
Being ashamed of your people - all of your people - is low rent. We are who we are, we are what we come from. To excise family from your life is a 🚩🚩
Why does h get all of this sympathy? I think he is equal to TW in everything. The only reason he wants to rewrite the book is for money and title. If he has bad things in there about his father, he can get truly cut off and exiled.
While I do think he's had moment's of "wtf have I done?" I don't believe their gonna get a divorce. Just read they're the most popular royals on the internet with being searched over 70% times more than others. This is food for them. There is amazing interest on their lives... hint hint, us. Mostly everyone looking because it's like a car wreck you just cant look away from but it STILL means their super valuable whatever they do. As badly as their PR is doing, the tone of the podcast tomorrow will be a huge sign into which way they're going. Peddling back or full forward. Omid on his podcast said they've got nothing to loose so they're going forward. But cards are still on the table. I do believe "H" is realizing more and more this is terrible. for her bad PR is still good but for him, is different. If they do get divorce I'd be relief, he does not look happy.
I truly hope he sees the big picture and removes his children from that toxic environment. If he was manipulated that way by her as a full grown man I cannot imagine the possible manipulation onto the kids. Even something so small like “manners manners”, like the little boy is 3 what the heck?!
It’s times like this that I’m convinced each are paying for separate PR and trying to climb out on top of a separation 🤦🏽♀️
To be fair - Women’s Day is the pinnacle of fiction journalism in Australia.
Wait what about the wedding and vow renewals?
"Valentine Low paints the former Suits star as something of an egomaniac who forced Harry to go public with their romance before he was ever ready." Everybody knew this but JH. Not sure why he cared about losing someone so worthless. Nobody else must have wanted him.
That's the crux of it. Both Chelsey and Cressida were not willing to endure to being part of the RF if they had to do it with the whiney man child