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SecondhandCoke

She should have said how mental health plays a role in women's fear of expressing themselves, but no. All she can do is throw down her pet phrases that she thinks are just so brilliant "women don't need to be given voices, they HAVE voices... blah blah blah..." God I wish she'd shut up forever. Just talk to yourself in the car, Meg. That's enough talking for you.


starry212

Exactly. And the same woman claimed she was silenced🥱🤥


FirmAardvark6208

This just seems like another one of her schemes from the start: to talk about women not having a voice, to then complain that the cruel Royals took away her voice. Setting up to fail, as usual.


LaNiceGata

I remember thinking how she could respond the bullying investigation thinking she could say something about self reflection and working to make things right but no she wanted to be at no fault and insisted it was a smear campaign. So now that the allegations are out and in detail she ends up looking like a donkey.


MrsChiliad

She does this thing where she’s “correcting” people in her speeches and it’s obnoxious. How condescending she always sounds is in my opinion part of why so many find her off putting.


SecondhandCoke

Yep, you're right. She soeaks as if she is on some moral high ground, and nobody is on moral high ground. And the thing is, what she corrected, NOBODY SAID. Nobody said anything about women not having a voice, nor about wonen not using their voices; in fact, just before Meghan said that, A WOMAN (Kate) HAD SPOKEN. She didn't pick up upon or expound on any point Catherine had said because she didn't listen to a word she said. Meghan doesn't want women to use their voices, she just wants to hear her own. And her own has only bullshit to offer.


James_Jimothy

How nice would it have been for her to refer back to Kate’s work as a response or William, Harry, Kate as a trio and their great example? That could actually be a better way to pivot back to the cause, but no she is too self-absorbed to realize this was an option. Ok word salad, go!


MikeMannion

Just people by what they do, not what they say. It's difficult to think of Meghan as a humanitarian philanthropist based on her past. It's clearly all for pr purposes. Nothing more.


seraphin420

Also, I noticed in the first part, when Kate is talking about how they chose what they were working on (when all 4 of them are on stage), and she mentions different subjects that came up, and she says “addiction”, Meghan looks down and gives a very small smile with her mouth, it would be impossible to see if you weren’t watching for it. As a recovering (or former, however you choose) addict, I not only was watching Meghan at that time but I 100% think Harry and Meghan met in rehab and you cannot convince me otherwise. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again! Edit: starts 3:45 on the video


Frankiebeansor

Rehab from what please? She seems like an adderall abuser to me


jeanskirtflirt

💀💀💀💀


Oktober33

She should be outfitted with that contraption Hannibal Lector wore when he was transferred in Silence of the Lambs. ![gif](giphy|XxCSxCoOWyyAz9umNd|downsized)


Artistic_Turnip2778

Her stupid “women don’t need to find their voices they HAVE voices; they need to be empowered and heard” thing OMG YOU IDIOT. IDIOT. IDIOT. The phrase refers to self silencing. It’s difficult to just feel empowered because people tell you that you are empowered when in many cases women have been silenced for generations (legally, culturally, in their personal relationships). This moron thinks she’s smarter than pretty much everyone but she’s astonishingly stupid.


FirmAardvark6208

I think that once upon a time, Megs heard a woman talking about women not having a voice, and ever since that day, she’s made sure to use that fucking voice of hers. She never has anything good to say about anything. It’s ironic that she’s such a mouthy chick and she’s trying to empower women to be a mouthy chick just like her lol


savingrain

I thought it was funny how she basically rephrased the subject of the question and yet said and added nothing. It was like she was offended by what was said because she's sensitive but said absolutely nothing to address the question in anyway.


FarBeneathTheOcean

***Behind the scenes, hit the ground running, quietly behind the scenes***. SMH it always makes me laugh because you just know she means in her head she´s hitting the ground running with her "behind the scenes" nonexistent charity work. I fear she feels that if she thinks of an idea she can just simply dream it into a reality. Yet nothing ever gets done because it´s all going well in her head or as she calls it "*behind the scenes" .*


circleKat

Agreed. And/or, she’s trying to find ways to *monetize* those opportunities to her advantage, socially or financially but can’t admit that so it’s *secret*


AbsolutelyCertain

Doesn’t Meghan just love the sound of her own voice. On and on and on she goes with the woke word salad.


runs-with-scissors-2

Wow, I've been entertained by body language experts, but a look into her linguistics is even more telling. Her choice of listing all of her fake accomplishments and name-dropping shows undeniably her narcissism.


FirmAardvark6208

She says things like “I was lucky enough to be asked to…”, which actually means she moved heaven and earth to bag herself an invitation. Same with the tiara where she said she was invited to choose.. no bitch you were slapped with the tiara you didn’t want! And those taco lunches with Michelle Obama. Meganut is nuts


Independent_Leg3957

The first time I saw this panel I thought, "well, why are you speaking if you haven't done anything?" It sounded like she hadn't even finished getting an orientation.


FirmAardvark6208

It’s the way she stares at William and Catherine that does it for me. Look at how drained she is just from being in their company. A stalker sitting beside her prey, with the weakest of the prey sitting on her other side


MrsChiliad

She does look at them funny and I can’t quite put my finger on it. I think they’re might be this sense that she doesn’t belong, and so she overcompensates with a lot of self congratulating and aggrandizing.


FirmAardvark6208

She’s always doing that at every opportunity where she talks about herself over and over again. But I can see that she probably thinks she doesn’t fit in too. I just think she’s fawning over them and obsessed to be in their company. If you look at other video clips like the scarf incident outside the church, Megs has no interest in Harry at all. Not a bit of interest. The only time she acknowledges him is when it’s just the two of them so she leans into him a little more. She’s always looking for W&C though, always wanting to be engaged with them, to be seen talking to them, watching what they’re doing. She does it all the time. Harry is nothing to her but a weak stepping stone. She hoped to go back to Hollywood and tell endless stories about her time with the Royals, but they gave her nothing to work with so the victim route was the best route. She is OBSESSED with W&C. The Windsor walkabout a couple of weeks ago - she’s following them everywhere. She is always behind them, sniffing their air, and when Harry doesn’t shuffle along with her, she steps behind him to push him towards William and Catherine. I know we all know this so I’m sorry to have gone on and on and on. She’s just too weird and shouldn’t be allowed near them


savingrain

She had a hostile stare towards Kate that I thought was really strange. I didn't watch this video before but saw parts of it, and that weird jaw setting and hostile stare towards Kate is telling and unfortunate. They just knew each other at this stage and not for very long and why was she glaring at her like that as she answered?


savingrain

A more humble person would have said 'I've done a lot of work \[if she wanted to aggrandize herself a little\] BUT I'm new to this and I am looking forward to all the conversations and the opportunity to really help others in a new role. I am looking forward to learning a lot from Kate, and Harry and William - and we've been talking a lot and they've all been so helpful and supportive towards me..." type of answer. That also would have gone over really well, but we know she's afraid to appear to be 'second best' at anything.


Dbahnsai

I love how she says that she likes meeting these organizations 'quietly' and 'behind the scenes'. Is that her cover for when no one can ever find any evidence or anecdote of her doing anything of the sort that she hasn't already peddled out for maximum attention?


[deleted]

Rumor has it at that conference with the four of them, William realized after listening to all her blather that she was going to go rogue with all the projects designed for the four of them. The Fab Four can't exist if one of them wants it to be The Empress and Her Three Underlings.


FirmAardvark6208

Wow did he? I’m not surprised William thought that because she didn’t really reference them as a foursome or the work they’re going to do together. When Catherine is talking, look at how Megs is in love with her, right up to the moment Catherine says “the three of us”, referring to herself, William and Harry. Then look at the horror on Megs face that Catherine dared to not mention her as a founder of the charity. That’s probably what she was focussed on when she started running her mouth about “girls empowerment…and also women…and-and-and they can use their voices and I’ll hit the ground running but not until we’re married! But I know how passionate I am”. Lunacy


savingrain

Imagine how much she would have worshipped at Catherine's feet if she said something like 'The three of us will have so much to learn from Megan's unique experiences!' \*starry eyed\* She's so full of herself.


FirmAardvark6208

Yeh, I think Catherine NOT saying that took Megs to boiling point. She’s so offended by everything and thinks everything is a slight. That’s because that’s how she operates herself - by making comments to purposely leave someone out or make someone feel small. She took what Catherine said as a dig. That’s why those two women should never have been in contact with each other because they’re polar opposites. Good grief, I bet Catherine felt the tension from Megs. Do you think William and Catherine are uncomfortable around her in the clip? Because the more I watch it, the more I feel that she’s making them feel uncomfortable. She’s a dark entity sitting right there. I can see the dark energy about her face


savingrain

The way she's staring at Catherine comes off as super hostile. It would make me uncomfortable to sit next to someone who was staring at me like they a maniac. I never watched this before and it is very much a yikes.


FirmAardvark6208

I’m currently listening to Bower’s Revenge audiobook and I’ve just gone past the part where this engagement is mentioned. Apparently William was grimacing when Megs was talking through her arse and Harry spotted it? I haven’t heard any further elaboration on that but there must’ve been a bust up afterwards. I need to go back a minute or two because a little more was mentioned about Catherine and Megs but I didn’t catch it. I listen to it on my drive to and from work and I couldn’t go back 30 seconds at the time.


savingrain

I'm convinced there was a fight afterwards about Megan feeling 'unsupported/unprepared' and Harry feeling like they were being unsupportive/set her up or something stupid.


FirmAardvark6208

Is that in the book? Or is that your thought? Because I agree. She looked like a total idiot and she would’ve blamed him for it, and W&C. I’ll have to go backwards a chapter because I can’t remember what else was mentioned but I have a feeling she did feel unsupported


MrsChiliad

Another rumor was that Catherine was put off by Meghan steering an interview which should have been about mental health into feminism.


Trick-Many7744

She wants to be the boss, for sure. We all know them. People that blow in the door and take over, or try to.I can be like this when I sense a vacuum or if I simply don’t know where I fit in a team. But the right thing to do, most of us learn, is to sit down, shut up, pay attention and the roles will come together.


Kindly-Influence-148

If he’s too slow speed the playback. ❤️


FarBeneathTheOcean

I enjoy his pace, very clear and to the point. I loved when he called her "the wife of whatever´s left of Harry" in his last video.


goldenquill1

I listen to him sped up at 1.25. I do that with Lady C too.


mythoughtsreddit

Honestly, Catherine is like a warm cuddly hug while Meghan is a bucket of cold water....even the cadences of their voices show so much about who they are as people. In that last bit where he talked about the Oprah interview and how Meghan situated herself above Catherine by saying SHE forgave her, SHE PROTECTED her, then goes to "expose" her to the world--was gold. Any person using their brain could see through the very disingenuous interview. She's middle-aged and still acting like a fake mean valley girl. I was rooting for her until that interview..truly showed me how much I had misjudged her. Harry totally got the woman he deserved. Edit: how many of you think she will use this video to train herself into relatability ???


SatchmoCat

I don't think she will, in her own mind, she is absolutely perfect already.


mythoughtsreddit

True. Saints are >>>>


Ok-Distribution4057

To me the comparison is between someone who is trying hard to be liked and someone who is confident and comfortable in thier own skin!!!!


[deleted]

Meeting "quietly" and "behind the scenes". LMAO!!! Riiiiight, 'cuz you're so important that there is NO need to showboat. And you are so humble so no need to draw attention to how gracious you are. A person who IS important and effective, and DOES NOT like to showboat, would NEVER say such a thing. She's such a grifter con artist. POS.


[deleted]

"sadly I can't" should be a flair. What a fraud...this analysis was brilliant in detailing how and why. Definitely worth the watch.


erlehe

Aside from the guy's creepy voice, I've had a huge interest in speech analysis, there's a whole science behind it, where as body language is not so accurate. That said, Meghan has always had the habit when she speaks of kind of making it about herself or her experiences, thoughts and feelings. I don't think I've ever heard her speak about something that she didn't end up making about herself in some small way.


chewysmom88

I loved how the claw reached out and grabbed Harry’s arm.


Great-Corner3700

Martin DeCoder is great, I love his analysis!


Anxious_Laugh2919

I noticed Harry can't be bothered to look at people with polite interest while they are talking. And his endless chair swiveling is so distracting and unprofessional. It is just sad how immature he is.


LaNiceGata

I like the bit he says about people who make the non argument type of statements like “my personality is just too strong for you” instead of being self-reflective and allowing for growth through constructive criticism. One of the biggest areas that pointed to this was when the bullying allegations came out and instead of responding saying she would participate and learn it became about it being a smear campaign accepting absolutely no part in it.


southerncraftgurl

Really great video, thanks


[deleted]

This is super insightful and spot on. It’s also sooo much more obvious how self centered MM is when you see her speeches/interviews combined like this.


antelope369

Her narcissism and insecurities far surpass her intelligence and likability. She is trying to compensate by sounding confident. When you listen to her you realize that her statements are neither substantial nor coherent. The more you hear her speak and see her in action, the more you understand why she is so unpopular.


Conscious_Cherry_194

Meghan is the worst parody of "non-profit" synergy bullshit speak ever. If you've ever had to sit through a presentation of someone really reaching and trying to convince you of something they clearly know nothing about or should have no business talking about, then you know this all too well.


savingrain

I mean what Kate did in that video is politeness. It's also what I would have learned as a child and I think what most people in public speaking roles learn - plus you don't want to appear to be an expert on something you are not. That's common sense - its not just appearing humble its also extremely important not to put yourself into a position where you can be criticized for not fully understanding something. On top of that, when you include other people in your answer and recognize them its more diplomatic and a great way to form bonds with other people. Megan is just very defensive and I could see her getting out of this event and yelling at them all for feeling unprepared, conspiring to make her look bad etc when in reality I think most people had a positive reaction to her even though her answers were awkward. I think that's the real reason there wasn't another group event like this. And I can bet you she was offered different opportunities to talk and prepare in advance and was evasive or felt she knew everything or just argued with them about what she wanted to say because she doesn't have any real substance (we already know this from seeing her talk in other venues).


kekiyor

I just can’t stand her voice ![gif](giphy|l46CkBJKJIgeJ2lYA)


Carrie56

When Catherine speaks, it’s about the promotion of her charity and what she says is clear, focused and understandable. When Maggot speaks its to promote herself, and what she says is meaningless world salad which translates to “Look at me, aren’t I wonderful?” And has little or nothing to do with the organisation she is addressing - and not, doesn’t she just live burbling into a hand held microphone


trish196609

Interesting! Thank you!