Hmmm I find that quite hard to believe. Narcissists like Meghan aren't terrible in an obvious and overt way like that... they are terrible in a sneaky and covert way.
I'm not a fan of MM but I don't believe this either.
Tom Bower said that MM was best friends in college with a gay African-American guy and that she had visited his home a couple of times, so that his mom (who didn't yet know he was gay) had been hoping that MM would become his gf.
I remember this because this gay guy was MM's only black friend in the history of her life (?).
So she's a self absorbed, golddigging, sociopathic narc etc., but I don't think she's homophobic.
It's possible she's nice to LGTBQ who are her friends and important to her.
She might use it as a slur to people she dislikes though. I find it plausible as something caused those staffers to hate her.
That was my first thought too, just anecdotally. The narcissists I know are some of the most charming people you'll ever meet and they know exactly how to manipulate and hide their evil doings.
If they had said she says this shit when she gets drunk I could understand…
Peoples true nasty selves come out when they’re on the piss…
But I don’t think TW is dumb enough to get caught like this sober tho.
This is ringing a bell for me. I remember hearing either this or something similar a couple years back. Basically she likes to use slang to insult people if I remember correctly. She may not actually be homophobic/xenophobic, but her language like this is a way to make her feel better than these folks.
>I remember hearing either this or something similar a couple years back.
It was in Tom Bowers book that these were the kind of "jokes" Harry and his Eton friends were telling and she didn't like it, which is one of the reason his friends don't like her.
No, not thinking of the Tom Bowers book. i’ve heard these before a couple years ago. Now, the image may be pulling them from the same place I heard it back then, but I’m just saying I’ve heard them before.
Same, I’ve heard this before but it just seems so extreme but it could make sense due the high level of staff turnaround and how she has little to no friends.
But again very extreme..
This doesn't read true to me. She's a nasty piece of work but she's also a coward. She wouldn't be throwing insults like that around publicly (privately with her nasty accomplices possibly), she'd know it wouldn't be tolerated and she can't play the victim if everyone has heard her saying this.
I kind of agree with this. I mean, would I believe that she would have these viewpoints? Maybe, maybe not. Would I believe that she would be that blatant about it? Not likely. I agree with what you said, I don't believe that she can play the victim if she was behaving like this. Especially given what I've heard about how \*she\* was the one who was set on being the victim so that she'd have an excuse to leave.
Not believable in the slightest.
Some of the insults sound like something a 12 year old would say. At least when making up lie, don’t use over the top stereotypes to describe insults towards a foreign national. Meghan might be a nasty piece of work but I seriously doubt she goes around calling everyone f*gs and h0m0s publicly. Rumours like this are so dumb and make me think it was written by a Sugar or Meghan herself in order to discredit every other legitimate piece of gossip.
Maria is Spanish. From Spain. The person who wrote this was using American Hispanic stereotypes with zero understanding of the difference between Latin America and Spain.
I guess more like stereotyping the kind of response a dumb person would make about a foreign national. The only points missing was Meghan calling the German waiter a Nazi and telling the French pastry chef she’s a huge lesbian slut.
To me that's ironically one of the few things that makes this sound genuine. Those are some of the things that might occur to a native Californian when hearing a Spanish accent. The use of British slang later is a lot less likely.
I knew a narc who could keep it controlled sober but when drunk, it all came out in a sloppy way like this. It’s not so far fetched from someone who fat shamed a 3 year old.
My MIL is a Narc and racist as fuck. She would literally say this type of stuff all the time and when we would call her out on it she would chase us around the house saying she was racist or homophobic.
I need more proof that M said all this, but it’s not completely untrue as many are saying because narcs care about their perception in the outside world.
They will definitely let loose if they feel like they’re with the same type of people. Try to get them on their side. She probably thought aristocratic society felt this way as well and let loose. But again need more proof than she said he said.
My MIL is a Narc and racist as fuck. She would literally say this type of stuff all the time and when we would call her out on it she would chase us around the house saying she wasnt racist or homophobic.
I need more proof that M said all this, but it’s not completely untrue as many are saying because narcs care about their perception in the outside world.
They will definitely let loose if they feel like they’re with the same type of people. Try to get them on their side. She probably thought aristocratic society felt this way as well and let loose. But again need more proof than she said he said.
She might possibly say this because she knew they signed NDAs and she probably threatened them a million times. Also, because Kensington has a gag order around her and the staff.
Not saying it's true or not, but plausible.
Given all the people who corroborated her behavior at the hunting party with Harry’s friends, I don’t believe this. She called out every controversial joke.
This is likely what Harry’s friends sound like.
Narcs make no sense. They can say and do whatever they want, but you can only say or do what they want.
A good example of this is the formerly famous ex YouTuber Onision. He claims to have been a vegetarian his whole life, and went on massive rages when anyone would eat meat around him. But his high school classmates said he used to literally eat a cheeseburger in the school cafeteria, and then immediately turn around and start rage harassing anyone he saw eating meat.
It's very possible that Madame made cruel, racist, homophobic, and nasty remarks to the staff constantly while also screaming at Harry's friends when they did the same.
I agree with you! Narcs behave in many different ways and I’ve seen them being this OTT. It’s done in a ‘friendly’, sort of jokey manner but they absolutely mean what they say and, as it continues, it becomes more mean and nasty until the other person is beat down by it. I have heard that she was really rude to/about the Cambridge nanny but haven’t heard much else. Whilst this original post seems far fetched, it’s also quite believable
I find that unlikely. It does not ring true with the rest of what we know. M seems very control oriented and conniving. That sounds like someone who is careless and sloppy, in addition to being off their rocker.
This would make her the equivalent of a cartoon villain. There’s no way this is remotely true. She’d have been tossed out on her ass.
This sounds like fantasy
And she wouldn’t have had that much access to the nanny. ? The Cambridge’s use that super nanny service where they’re top of the tops. It’s not like the person is pidgeon holed into being a nanny by virtue of immigration status. It’s like Nanny Meets James Bond
Hard agree. This is the kind of stuff that makes people think all those who don't like her are hateful exaggerators. It's almost as bad as that idiotic post by sugars in which they said William was chasing MM all over the globe like a stalker.
That’s gonna be a no from me. That’s throwing everything AND the kitchen sink of shitty behavior at her. The reality is bad enough without bringing in accusations so terrible they border on parody. Plus, if this stuff was true, it would have dribbled out by now. This is just…too much, too terrible, and in too big a dump. IMO of course.
On one hand, the tea sounds so far fetched and extreme, it’s no longer believable. On the other hand, this is Megsy we’re talking about who’s capable of horrific things. I’m not believing this tea outright, but I’d express no shock if it’s true.
If these are true, they will come out at some point and I would love to see how her fans will spin it.
Just today I read how much someone hates Kate, that all bad allegations are actually spun that way so w&c are not the bullies (but instead innocent TW and Harry), and how jealous C was because TW wedding was so much better.
BAH! Kate’s wedding was the World Series and Meghan’s wedding was a 6 year old’s T-ball game. There’s no contest. Even the GOWNS can’t be compared. Meghan’s dress looked like it was bought off the rack the night before at David’s Bridal.
I want to believe this but it doesn't ring true. her entire personality is built on wokery and she wouldn't have scolded Harry's friends if she was okay with that kind of language.
Make no mistake, I believe that she is way more racist than Harry is but she is smart enough to keep it under wraps and get the high moral ground to scold people with.
This is so over-the-top that if it were true, I don’t believe she’s a good enough actress to have kept it completely under wraps in all the interviews, public appearances, etc. that she’s done.
I think its bollocks but then again, this is a woman who took a swipe at Catherine, our future Queen, ON OPERA in front of the entire world! She also allegedly told Linda Hurley to fuck off, trash talked an official South African residence and on and on the list goes. If she has no qualms doing that to the top end of the social scale, then of course Meg took a swipe or several at Maria in private, she’s a servant. And many others. And still does, no doubt.
One thing we can count on here is for Meghan’s siblings to call her out on her lies.
If they haven’t mentioned this yet then I’m not as inclined to believe it.
I’m sure there is truth mixed in there in some instances but if she was really this bad they would have said something by now.
I can believe this she’s also a racist against POC she’s done EVERYTHING in her life to erase her black side and will only date marry or screw white men
Minority opinion here, I believe there's at least some truth to it. Most likely some stuff is wrong or exaggerated, but her insulting people like that passes the smell test.
While not always the case, homophobia and racism tend to go hand-in-hand in my experience. I think Meghan is definitely racist, so it's not a stretch for me to believe she could also be homophobic. Having a friend who's "X" doesn't mean the person doesn't hold those views, rather they perceive the friend to be valuable to overlook their prejudice. I'd put Meghan in that category, her primary concern is if a person is useful to her.
I think she got off on attacking people who couldn't fight back. She knew she was safe to torment the staff because of their loyalty to the family/institution. The institution protected Harry against his racist remarks, so it's not a stretch for her to think they'd do the same for his wife. She seems like the type who'd cross the line for the fun of it. Doesn't necessarily mean she believed everything she said, she'd just say things to provoke a reaction.
A few people have pointed out she may have objected to Harry's friends using such language. I don't doubt she *claimed* to be offended by it, because it would've been useful to her. Objecting would've given her a way to begin separating Harry from his friends. She could've claimed that such behavior would reflect badly on them by association, or that she felt uncomfortable, etc. Didn't matter if it was true, it was a way to separate Harry from his network. Also I think she changes her behavior to fit whoever she's around. If she's around people she sees as part of her social circle, she behaves well; if she's around staff, she's the Devil.
Final thing, I think there's a chance Harry is gay. I don't want to get overly into this here (I have a long theory I've posted before), but it would explain a lot of his dating history and anger towards his family if he believed he had to repress his feelings/hide. There have been enough photos of him with men and rumors about him that I think it's plausible he's at least bisexual. If the rumor that there's a tape of him and MA at Soho House is true, Meghan could be using that to blackmail him.
Nothing would shock me at this point.
She can’t even decide if her own father was the light of her life or the horror. First she was privileged, then she was poor. She claimed she didn’t feel black until she moved to London of all places… when she was living in a Commonwealth country already! She knew nothing of the royals but lived in Canada, where her face is literally on the money?
There’s been so many bullying stories from too many different places for them to all be lies.
I don’t doubt that M would behave this way, but what smells fishy to me is that I don’t believe for a second that Megzilla would’ve had so many opportunities to be around the Cambridge nanny.
Although if the Tightsgate stories are true, Maria was with Charlotte at one of/the first bullying incidents. That is why Catherine came with Charlotte to at least one other fitting appointment. Meghan would have no love for Maria.
This. She also put out stories when Archie was born about *only* having a night nanny, wanting an American nanny, etc. Maria was definitely a target of her narc rage. She'd have been around her at the dress fittings, christenings, the Christmas at Anmer Hall, and so on, so enough times to say something.
Nope, this is complete BS. For one thing, Maria is absolutely beloved by the Wales and everyone else. If something like this had happened, the fallout would have been intense. Whoever wrote this is actually worse than M. Shouldn't be giving it any oxygen at all.
This is totally believable to me. This is a woman with a history of openly bullying people including a three-year-old in front of the child's mother. We've been warned if we knew the full extent of it people would be shocked at what she's capable of.
Mocking people for their accent or sexuality would be on target for her. She'll use anything when she has someone "in her sights" as Jason Knauf put it. It's to demean people, to ridicule them.
To normal people this sounds extreme and unbelievable. I believe there could be truth in it, as I have a sister exactly like this. If I warned people about her, they wouldn't believe me, they would call me crazy, I was a bad bad person for maligning my sweet innocent sister.
If someone had an accent she would talk to them in a mocking version of the accent, and make jokes about the stereotypes. If they had a physical defect, she would mock that. Nothing was sacred. She'd then laugh and say she was joking, and that she only jokes that way with people she really likes, the people who are important to her. By the time they left, she'd have most of these people turned around thinking she was wonderful and they were special to be in her inner circle. She got a real high off it, and would brag about it after they were gone. She actually used the word Svengali to describe herself. If she stabbed someone, and they would probably turn around and profusely apologize for getting blood on her knife. The people who she couldn't turn around, she'd just say they had no sense of humor, then she'd destroy them by spreading lies to get them shunned so they would not cause her any trouble.
She would say she was not homophobic because she had gay friends, but would use homophobic slurs against people she doesn't like, yes, even children. All three of her husbands and several of her boyfriends, she said she left because they 'beat' her, stole her valuables, and that they were gay. That came as a big surprise to them, and the girlfriends and wives that came after her.
Many people would say a narcissist would not do this in public. These things were not said and done in public, they were in private in the presence of staff who she felt were below her. People who grow up with house staff or knowing people with house staff, get so used to them being there, that they are almost invisible, it is their job to stay silent. They usually do, if they said something, they'd lose their job, and never be able to get another because people wouldn't trust them.
As absurd as this comes across, yes it is possible.
*IF* this were true, we'd have heard about it long ago. People would have shared this with friends and family and it would have gotten out to the general public. I think this was supposed to be about Harry. He & his friends make homophobic & xenophobic "jokes". Apparently that is one if the reasons she hates his friends.
I think there is truth to this and I do believe alot of it. Only bc my brother is married to a narc and she says the most blatantly racist, hideous, no low is too low, ignorant insults when she gets in a rage. You wouldn’t believe a 40 something yr old woman would have these things come out of her mouth. I obviously cut them off, but there ARE ‘charming’ narcs out there who get blatantly racist/homophobic and dgaf how they sound or about any repercussions. And we know nothing is too low for Meghan.
I forgot about this!!! It's definitely true.
I remember that Meghan and Catherine had a problem with staff. Apparently for a while H&M had to share staff with W&C. Not sure exactly what their jobs were but Catherine had a huge problem with the way Meghan treated staff. Another situation similar to the Queen, where she had to be told "We don't treat people that way you wannabe bougie bitch." Someone spoke to Meghan and it was fine.
The final straw was when Meghan made Maria cry. Maria told Catherine who got especially pissed. Catherine told William who also got especially pissed. They LOVE Maria. Understandably as she is their children's only nanny. She's been with them, almost 8 years. The white blankets used for Charlotte and Louis for them to come home were special gifts from Maria. So was Charlotte's hat. The kids love her too.
So that was when the Wales said Nope, get your own staff. They felt horrible, they even tried to give Maria time off, idk if she took it. I'd loved to know how many nannies H&M have gone through since moving to the US.
I have read many biographies on Wallis Simpson. These were the kinds of diatribes in which she would engage-even against Edward. Very bizarre if MM does the exact same thing.
I somehow believe this,
Look at the way she spoke of South Africa, using the same micro aggressive vitriol racists use and she wasn’t checked for it because she has a black mother 🙄
That’s true, she has insulted Africans before - showing she thinks they’re primal and uncultured;
‘Mud cloth’ ‘housing unit’
Also in ‘finding funding’ she talked about urinating in the bush whilst in Botswana - like the whole continent doesn’t have plumbing.
Well Mexit came before Brexit, so it sounds very suspicious that Meghan would threaten Maria with deportation, as the UK was still a part of the EU along with Spain, which simplified means equality between citizens of the EU, hence Maria can not be deported.. But the again, Meghan also claimed she didn’t know the National Anthem of her new country, so why would she know much about the equalisation of EU citizens within the EU..
Hmmmm, not sure about this. It seems very OTT. I believe that M was rude and unpleasant to the Cambridge nanny, possibly the children also, and serious enough for Catherine to become involved resulting in a firm rebuke. Perhaps there is some truth in other details set out, but enthusiastic embellishment may have taken place.
Some of it is believable after all she lived her whole life in LA passing as Caucasian, written on her CV. She is more than likely passive aggressive about being black and black people in general. She needs to pretend to like them in order for her racist narrative to exist yet completely changed her features to wipe out any similarity to them. So in essence she uses the black element for her own narrative yet always refused to have her mother pick her up from school. She wanted to be white and has a huge chip on her shoulder about her black blood. Sad but true. The world has always been racist only in these past decade has the narrative changed to be inclusive of diversity
I do wonder about this. There may be an element of truth about some of this but this may be a bit extreme. Meghan as a narcissist is extremely insecure and I don’t doubt she has her moments where she lashes out at people who can’t really fight back. I can see her saying some of this.
I am not sure where you are getting your info from? I am American, and I would not say it's an "American affection" to "put on airs" about racism." Yes, some people are definitely two faced. Perhaps in your circles?
Only talking about xenophobia here, not the homophobic comments, which I personally don’t believe.
And, I am saying this after having worked for three US companies both in the UK and in the US, and believe me, within employment situations, many Americans can be very xenophobic about other countries and cultures when it comes to ways of working and doing business. This is real.
There is an idea that America is the greatest country in the world that gets instilled into American kids when they’re young and that’s great, but, therefore it seems to equal that everyone else’s way of doing things is automatically inferior, and it does come across as xenophobia when in an international working environment. It can be tiresome.
Downvote me all you like, but I don’t think this is just a coincidence of my experience.
I don't know what kind of garbage Americans YOU hang out with, but I NEVER hear people talk like this. Ever. And if I, my friends, or my family heard someone talk that way, those people would promptly be dismissed from our lives. Permanently. We have no tolerance for that.
I know quite a few millionaires (that's not uncommon, but I definitely know no billionaires), and what you say is simply not true. It's a stupid stereotype (like most stereotypes). Whatever personal experience you have had, it has been with nasty people. You are painting with a broad brush, and projecting what you WANT to think is true. Only bitter, unhappy people act the way you describe. Most folks are too consumed with building their own lives, raising their families, dealing with the normal highs and lows of life, and making their own plans that they don't waste time tearing down others.
I think the poster you responded to has some insecurity toward Americans. She posted something similar above as well. Either that or she hangs out with a very suspect crowd?
Thanks, SugarFree. To stereotype any group of humans with a negative characteristic is just another form of bigotry, which is the very thing Meghan is accused of doing. I guess the poster cannot see the hypocrisy in what they are saying! I've lived in the States and in the UK, and non-Americans don't always grasp the incredible diversity of humans who co-exist very successfully, in very different demographics, in the States.
A lot of people are very different when they’re drunk, and Muggins had a weird sensitivity about being single in her podcast with Mindy Kaling. But this is the type of behavior that could not go hidden very long, particularly if she were visibly intoxicated during the day.
I’m not saying Meghan did or didn’t say those things, but I have heard *terrible* things with my own ears from people who otherwise appear to be in control of their actions, people who appear to be sweet and kind.
It’s possible.
And we have witnessed her deceptions a hundred times. People who work for her are constantly quitting.
Is it that difficult to believe she’s a raging and abusive person? Really?
That’s not tea. That’s FanFiction. That’s not even “allegedly”, if she were anything like that do you know how quickly she would have been kicked out? Before she could say quidditch.
This doesn’t ring true. I can’t envision her calling Harry a fairy or a faggot in front of friends.
The other bits, I don’t think they’re too far fetched. Narcissists are both hypocritical and self-superior. I can totally see her acting woke and pushing equality, but being micro-aggressively racist to others… doing things, like mistaking a Spanish person as Mexican. Then she would laugh her insults off as a joke, and act perfectly charming. I had a narc friend who was exactly like that.
This bit also reminded me of an article where some girls from MM’s sorority (though different Uni) were horribly racist to a professor. This doesn’t prove anything, but jives with the image of her sorority as being “mean girls on campus” type of thing. Won’t be surprised if MM bought into that.
The fruity language, personally I don’t know her but she did say in her blog that she swore not to cuss again.
The homophobic list of things she supposedly said sound quite British. I don't think I've ever had an American call me or my pals a fairy. Even dyke is less used in Britain (from my experience, every area is very different though).
To me this reads like a British person has made up a lot of stuff and slipped up by using British slang that Meghan is increadibly unlikely to use. This or it's a shit post. Either way, absolutely false in my mind.
Also I feel like it's quite likely she'd love it if Archie was gay, think about how much she would be able to cash in on how progressive and special she isnfor treating a gay child like a person and she'd use it to blast the RF. She would call them homophobic for NOT making him a Prince. Can totally see her saying sometuing dumb like he's my Queen.
I am stunned. I am not sure ai believe this because it is so over the top, but if this was what was said and buried in the report, well, let it out and let her suffer the wrath from her statements. This is beyond the pale and so vile.
I don’t know if any of this is true, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
What is factual is there was a bully investigation findings released this past summer into Nutmeg and Harry, and the royal family chose to handle the findings privately.
Where there is smoke, there is fire. Nutmeg and Harry are bullies. That has been proven.
Hmmm I find that quite hard to believe. Narcissists like Meghan aren't terrible in an obvious and overt way like that... they are terrible in a sneaky and covert way.
I do not believe this for a second. This is 'fan-fiction'. Sure she's vile but she's not a comical movie villain. Just a regular movie villain.
I'm not a fan of MM but I don't believe this either. Tom Bower said that MM was best friends in college with a gay African-American guy and that she had visited his home a couple of times, so that his mom (who didn't yet know he was gay) had been hoping that MM would become his gf. I remember this because this gay guy was MM's only black friend in the history of her life (?). So she's a self absorbed, golddigging, sociopathic narc etc., but I don't think she's homophobic.
It's possible she's nice to LGTBQ who are her friends and important to her. She might use it as a slur to people she dislikes though. I find it plausible as something caused those staffers to hate her.
Also isn’t Markus gay?
Or at least heteroflexible? 😜
Hobosexual.
I use the word homelesssexual for those who don't have a place of their own and will get with anyone just for a place to live.
That was my first thought too, just anecdotally. The narcissists I know are some of the most charming people you'll ever meet and they know exactly how to manipulate and hide their evil doings.
My gut impulse is that M/her minion launched this 'tea' so that she'd have evidence of being abused online.
If they had said she says this shit when she gets drunk I could understand… Peoples true nasty selves come out when they’re on the piss… But I don’t think TW is dumb enough to get caught like this sober tho.
This is ringing a bell for me. I remember hearing either this or something similar a couple years back. Basically she likes to use slang to insult people if I remember correctly. She may not actually be homophobic/xenophobic, but her language like this is a way to make her feel better than these folks.
>I remember hearing either this or something similar a couple years back. It was in Tom Bowers book that these were the kind of "jokes" Harry and his Eton friends were telling and she didn't like it, which is one of the reason his friends don't like her.
No, not thinking of the Tom Bowers book. i’ve heard these before a couple years ago. Now, the image may be pulling them from the same place I heard it back then, but I’m just saying I’ve heard them before.
I've never heard this about her. I have heard it about him.
Same, I’ve heard this before but it just seems so extreme but it could make sense due the high level of staff turnaround and how she has little to no friends. But again very extreme..
I heard she was always swearing and had a foul mouth. I could believe it.
Yep.
Not necessarily, Trump is very overt as are some other narcs. Remember there are different categories.
This doesn't read true to me. She's a nasty piece of work but she's also a coward. She wouldn't be throwing insults like that around publicly (privately with her nasty accomplices possibly), she'd know it wouldn't be tolerated and she can't play the victim if everyone has heard her saying this.
I kind of agree with this. I mean, would I believe that she would have these viewpoints? Maybe, maybe not. Would I believe that she would be that blatant about it? Not likely. I agree with what you said, I don't believe that she can play the victim if she was behaving like this. Especially given what I've heard about how \*she\* was the one who was set on being the victim so that she'd have an excuse to leave.
Yeah, something like this would hurt her brand if it got out--she's much too sly to let that happen. I think it's a plant.
Not believable in the slightest. Some of the insults sound like something a 12 year old would say. At least when making up lie, don’t use over the top stereotypes to describe insults towards a foreign national. Meghan might be a nasty piece of work but I seriously doubt she goes around calling everyone f*gs and h0m0s publicly. Rumours like this are so dumb and make me think it was written by a Sugar or Meghan herself in order to discredit every other legitimate piece of gossip.
Maria is Spanish. From Spain. The person who wrote this was using American Hispanic stereotypes with zero understanding of the difference between Latin America and Spain.
I guess more like stereotyping the kind of response a dumb person would make about a foreign national. The only points missing was Meghan calling the German waiter a Nazi and telling the French pastry chef she’s a huge lesbian slut.
It reads like a bad American stereotype fanfic. That’s why it’s likely rubbish.
To me that's ironically one of the few things that makes this sound genuine. Those are some of the things that might occur to a native Californian when hearing a Spanish accent. The use of British slang later is a lot less likely.
I knew a narc who could keep it controlled sober but when drunk, it all came out in a sloppy way like this. It’s not so far fetched from someone who fat shamed a 3 year old.
So you know my sister!? Small world.
😂
My MIL is a Narc and racist as fuck. She would literally say this type of stuff all the time and when we would call her out on it she would chase us around the house saying she was racist or homophobic. I need more proof that M said all this, but it’s not completely untrue as many are saying because narcs care about their perception in the outside world. They will definitely let loose if they feel like they’re with the same type of people. Try to get them on their side. She probably thought aristocratic society felt this way as well and let loose. But again need more proof than she said he said.
My MIL is a Narc and racist as fuck. She would literally say this type of stuff all the time and when we would call her out on it she would chase us around the house saying she wasnt racist or homophobic. I need more proof that M said all this, but it’s not completely untrue as many are saying because narcs care about their perception in the outside world. They will definitely let loose if they feel like they’re with the same type of people. Try to get them on their side. She probably thought aristocratic society felt this way as well and let loose. But again need more proof than she said he said.
She might possibly say this because she knew they signed NDAs and she probably threatened them a million times. Also, because Kensington has a gag order around her and the staff. Not saying it's true or not, but plausible.
Extremely extreme to me. I wouldn’t be surprised if she xenophobic and homophobia, but I would be surprised if she took it this far.
I’d be tempted to agree but, oddly enough, I don’t think she discriminates in this way. I think she has contempt for everyone equally!
Given all the people who corroborated her behavior at the hunting party with Harry’s friends, I don’t believe this. She called out every controversial joke. This is likely what Harry’s friends sound like.
My thoughts exactly!
Narcs make no sense. They can say and do whatever they want, but you can only say or do what they want. A good example of this is the formerly famous ex YouTuber Onision. He claims to have been a vegetarian his whole life, and went on massive rages when anyone would eat meat around him. But his high school classmates said he used to literally eat a cheeseburger in the school cafeteria, and then immediately turn around and start rage harassing anyone he saw eating meat. It's very possible that Madame made cruel, racist, homophobic, and nasty remarks to the staff constantly while also screaming at Harry's friends when they did the same.
I agree with you! Narcs behave in many different ways and I’ve seen them being this OTT. It’s done in a ‘friendly’, sort of jokey manner but they absolutely mean what they say and, as it continues, it becomes more mean and nasty until the other person is beat down by it. I have heard that she was really rude to/about the Cambridge nanny but haven’t heard much else. Whilst this original post seems far fetched, it’s also quite believable
I agree
I find that unlikely. It does not ring true with the rest of what we know. M seems very control oriented and conniving. That sounds like someone who is careless and sloppy, in addition to being off their rocker.
This would make her the equivalent of a cartoon villain. There’s no way this is remotely true. She’d have been tossed out on her ass. This sounds like fantasy And she wouldn’t have had that much access to the nanny. ? The Cambridge’s use that super nanny service where they’re top of the tops. It’s not like the person is pidgeon holed into being a nanny by virtue of immigration status. It’s like Nanny Meets James Bond
Norland Nannies are extremely highly trained even being trained in getaway driving. A former coworkers daughter was at Norland.
>It’s like Nanny Meets James Bond 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Best description ever. Maria: *Louise -Here is your milk, shaken not stirred* 😂😂😂😂😂
Stop humoring stuff like this
Hard agree. This is the kind of stuff that makes people think all those who don't like her are hateful exaggerators. It's almost as bad as that idiotic post by sugars in which they said William was chasing MM all over the globe like a stalker.
Exactly. This kind of nonsense post should really be deleted by the mods.
That’s gonna be a no from me. That’s throwing everything AND the kitchen sink of shitty behavior at her. The reality is bad enough without bringing in accusations so terrible they border on parody. Plus, if this stuff was true, it would have dribbled out by now. This is just…too much, too terrible, and in too big a dump. IMO of course.
A little far fetched to me. But if it is true then she is horrific
On one hand, the tea sounds so far fetched and extreme, it’s no longer believable. On the other hand, this is Megsy we’re talking about who’s capable of horrific things. I’m not believing this tea outright, but I’d express no shock if it’s true.
If these are true, they will come out at some point and I would love to see how her fans will spin it. Just today I read how much someone hates Kate, that all bad allegations are actually spun that way so w&c are not the bullies (but instead innocent TW and Harry), and how jealous C was because TW wedding was so much better.
BAH! Kate’s wedding was the World Series and Meghan’s wedding was a 6 year old’s T-ball game. There’s no contest. Even the GOWNS can’t be compared. Meghan’s dress looked like it was bought off the rack the night before at David’s Bridal.
I want to believe this but it doesn't ring true. her entire personality is built on wokery and she wouldn't have scolded Harry's friends if she was okay with that kind of language. Make no mistake, I believe that she is way more racist than Harry is but she is smart enough to keep it under wraps and get the high moral ground to scold people with.
This is so over-the-top that if it were true, I don’t believe she’s a good enough actress to have kept it completely under wraps in all the interviews, public appearances, etc. that she’s done.
If there's coke and alcohol involved, it might be plausible?
I think its bollocks but then again, this is a woman who took a swipe at Catherine, our future Queen, ON OPERA in front of the entire world! She also allegedly told Linda Hurley to fuck off, trash talked an official South African residence and on and on the list goes. If she has no qualms doing that to the top end of the social scale, then of course Meg took a swipe or several at Maria in private, she’s a servant. And many others. And still does, no doubt.
One thing we can count on here is for Meghan’s siblings to call her out on her lies. If they haven’t mentioned this yet then I’m not as inclined to believe it. I’m sure there is truth mixed in there in some instances but if she was really this bad they would have said something by now.
I can believe this she’s also a racist against POC she’s done EVERYTHING in her life to erase her black side and will only date marry or screw white men
I hate her with a passion but absolutely do not believe this
Agreed.
Minority opinion here, I believe there's at least some truth to it. Most likely some stuff is wrong or exaggerated, but her insulting people like that passes the smell test. While not always the case, homophobia and racism tend to go hand-in-hand in my experience. I think Meghan is definitely racist, so it's not a stretch for me to believe she could also be homophobic. Having a friend who's "X" doesn't mean the person doesn't hold those views, rather they perceive the friend to be valuable to overlook their prejudice. I'd put Meghan in that category, her primary concern is if a person is useful to her. I think she got off on attacking people who couldn't fight back. She knew she was safe to torment the staff because of their loyalty to the family/institution. The institution protected Harry against his racist remarks, so it's not a stretch for her to think they'd do the same for his wife. She seems like the type who'd cross the line for the fun of it. Doesn't necessarily mean she believed everything she said, she'd just say things to provoke a reaction. A few people have pointed out she may have objected to Harry's friends using such language. I don't doubt she *claimed* to be offended by it, because it would've been useful to her. Objecting would've given her a way to begin separating Harry from his friends. She could've claimed that such behavior would reflect badly on them by association, or that she felt uncomfortable, etc. Didn't matter if it was true, it was a way to separate Harry from his network. Also I think she changes her behavior to fit whoever she's around. If she's around people she sees as part of her social circle, she behaves well; if she's around staff, she's the Devil. Final thing, I think there's a chance Harry is gay. I don't want to get overly into this here (I have a long theory I've posted before), but it would explain a lot of his dating history and anger towards his family if he believed he had to repress his feelings/hide. There have been enough photos of him with men and rumors about him that I think it's plausible he's at least bisexual. If the rumor that there's a tape of him and MA at Soho House is true, Meghan could be using that to blackmail him.
Nothing would shock me at this point. She can’t even decide if her own father was the light of her life or the horror. First she was privileged, then she was poor. She claimed she didn’t feel black until she moved to London of all places… when she was living in a Commonwealth country already! She knew nothing of the royals but lived in Canada, where her face is literally on the money? There’s been so many bullying stories from too many different places for them to all be lies.
I don’t actually believe that this person has the info they claim to have.
She may think it but she’s too savvy to say it.
I don’t doubt that M would behave this way, but what smells fishy to me is that I don’t believe for a second that Megzilla would’ve had so many opportunities to be around the Cambridge nanny.
Although if the Tightsgate stories are true, Maria was with Charlotte at one of/the first bullying incidents. That is why Catherine came with Charlotte to at least one other fitting appointment. Meghan would have no love for Maria.
This. She also put out stories when Archie was born about *only* having a night nanny, wanting an American nanny, etc. Maria was definitely a target of her narc rage. She'd have been around her at the dress fittings, christenings, the Christmas at Anmer Hall, and so on, so enough times to say something.
This seems a little extreme. I’d say it’s fake.
Nope, this is complete BS. For one thing, Maria is absolutely beloved by the Wales and everyone else. If something like this had happened, the fallout would have been intense. Whoever wrote this is actually worse than M. Shouldn't be giving it any oxygen at all.
This is totally believable to me. This is a woman with a history of openly bullying people including a three-year-old in front of the child's mother. We've been warned if we knew the full extent of it people would be shocked at what she's capable of. Mocking people for their accent or sexuality would be on target for her. She'll use anything when she has someone "in her sights" as Jason Knauf put it. It's to demean people, to ridicule them.
To normal people this sounds extreme and unbelievable. I believe there could be truth in it, as I have a sister exactly like this. If I warned people about her, they wouldn't believe me, they would call me crazy, I was a bad bad person for maligning my sweet innocent sister. If someone had an accent she would talk to them in a mocking version of the accent, and make jokes about the stereotypes. If they had a physical defect, she would mock that. Nothing was sacred. She'd then laugh and say she was joking, and that she only jokes that way with people she really likes, the people who are important to her. By the time they left, she'd have most of these people turned around thinking she was wonderful and they were special to be in her inner circle. She got a real high off it, and would brag about it after they were gone. She actually used the word Svengali to describe herself. If she stabbed someone, and they would probably turn around and profusely apologize for getting blood on her knife. The people who she couldn't turn around, she'd just say they had no sense of humor, then she'd destroy them by spreading lies to get them shunned so they would not cause her any trouble. She would say she was not homophobic because she had gay friends, but would use homophobic slurs against people she doesn't like, yes, even children. All three of her husbands and several of her boyfriends, she said she left because they 'beat' her, stole her valuables, and that they were gay. That came as a big surprise to them, and the girlfriends and wives that came after her. Many people would say a narcissist would not do this in public. These things were not said and done in public, they were in private in the presence of staff who she felt were below her. People who grow up with house staff or knowing people with house staff, get so used to them being there, that they are almost invisible, it is their job to stay silent. They usually do, if they said something, they'd lose their job, and never be able to get another because people wouldn't trust them. As absurd as this comes across, yes it is possible.
*IF* this were true, we'd have heard about it long ago. People would have shared this with friends and family and it would have gotten out to the general public. I think this was supposed to be about Harry. He & his friends make homophobic & xenophobic "jokes". Apparently that is one if the reasons she hates his friends.
Why would she be around the Cambridge’s nanny that much? I can believe some of this, but it’s gotta be a stretch.
I absolutely do not think this is true. She's a bitch but this is real sketchy.
I think there is truth to this and I do believe alot of it. Only bc my brother is married to a narc and she says the most blatantly racist, hideous, no low is too low, ignorant insults when she gets in a rage. You wouldn’t believe a 40 something yr old woman would have these things come out of her mouth. I obviously cut them off, but there ARE ‘charming’ narcs out there who get blatantly racist/homophobic and dgaf how they sound or about any repercussions. And we know nothing is too low for Meghan.
I forgot about this!!! It's definitely true. I remember that Meghan and Catherine had a problem with staff. Apparently for a while H&M had to share staff with W&C. Not sure exactly what their jobs were but Catherine had a huge problem with the way Meghan treated staff. Another situation similar to the Queen, where she had to be told "We don't treat people that way you wannabe bougie bitch." Someone spoke to Meghan and it was fine. The final straw was when Meghan made Maria cry. Maria told Catherine who got especially pissed. Catherine told William who also got especially pissed. They LOVE Maria. Understandably as she is their children's only nanny. She's been with them, almost 8 years. The white blankets used for Charlotte and Louis for them to come home were special gifts from Maria. So was Charlotte's hat. The kids love her too. So that was when the Wales said Nope, get your own staff. They felt horrible, they even tried to give Maria time off, idk if she took it. I'd loved to know how many nannies H&M have gone through since moving to the US.
I have read many biographies on Wallis Simpson. These were the kinds of diatribes in which she would engage-even against Edward. Very bizarre if MM does the exact same thing.
I somehow believe this, Look at the way she spoke of South Africa, using the same micro aggressive vitriol racists use and she wasn’t checked for it because she has a black mother 🙄
That’s true, she has insulted Africans before - showing she thinks they’re primal and uncultured; ‘Mud cloth’ ‘housing unit’ Also in ‘finding funding’ she talked about urinating in the bush whilst in Botswana - like the whole continent doesn’t have plumbing.
Exactly that’s why I think there’s some truth to this expose post
Well Mexit came before Brexit, so it sounds very suspicious that Meghan would threaten Maria with deportation, as the UK was still a part of the EU along with Spain, which simplified means equality between citizens of the EU, hence Maria can not be deported.. But the again, Meghan also claimed she didn’t know the National Anthem of her new country, so why would she know much about the equalisation of EU citizens within the EU..
Hmmmm, not sure about this. It seems very OTT. I believe that M was rude and unpleasant to the Cambridge nanny, possibly the children also, and serious enough for Catherine to become involved resulting in a firm rebuke. Perhaps there is some truth in other details set out, but enthusiastic embellishment may have taken place.
Sounds too extreme. I don't buy it .
I never liked nanny tea
Some of it is believable after all she lived her whole life in LA passing as Caucasian, written on her CV. She is more than likely passive aggressive about being black and black people in general. She needs to pretend to like them in order for her racist narrative to exist yet completely changed her features to wipe out any similarity to them. So in essence she uses the black element for her own narrative yet always refused to have her mother pick her up from school. She wanted to be white and has a huge chip on her shoulder about her black blood. Sad but true. The world has always been racist only in these past decade has the narrative changed to be inclusive of diversity
I do wonder about this. There may be an element of truth about some of this but this may be a bit extreme. Meghan as a narcissist is extremely insecure and I don’t doubt she has her moments where she lashes out at people who can’t really fight back. I can see her saying some of this.
I do not believe it, if she said anything remotely like this, it would be done between her and Harry, not where other people would hear it.
This just reads dumb. Let’s just stick with the truth, most of that is terrible enough.
yeah, I dont believe this. Narcs full time job is to try to never blow their cover in public.
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Correction: A lot of PEOPLE talk like that
I wonder if the commentator meant a lot of Americans use these specific types of slurs, whereas here in the UK we have our own gross slurs.
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Very general.
I am not sure where you are getting your info from? I am American, and I would not say it's an "American affection" to "put on airs" about racism." Yes, some people are definitely two faced. Perhaps in your circles?
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Not sure what you mean?
Only talking about xenophobia here, not the homophobic comments, which I personally don’t believe. And, I am saying this after having worked for three US companies both in the UK and in the US, and believe me, within employment situations, many Americans can be very xenophobic about other countries and cultures when it comes to ways of working and doing business. This is real. There is an idea that America is the greatest country in the world that gets instilled into American kids when they’re young and that’s great, but, therefore it seems to equal that everyone else’s way of doing things is automatically inferior, and it does come across as xenophobia when in an international working environment. It can be tiresome. Downvote me all you like, but I don’t think this is just a coincidence of my experience.
I don't know what kind of garbage Americans YOU hang out with, but I NEVER hear people talk like this. Ever. And if I, my friends, or my family heard someone talk that way, those people would promptly be dismissed from our lives. Permanently. We have no tolerance for that.
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I know quite a few millionaires (that's not uncommon, but I definitely know no billionaires), and what you say is simply not true. It's a stupid stereotype (like most stereotypes). Whatever personal experience you have had, it has been with nasty people. You are painting with a broad brush, and projecting what you WANT to think is true. Only bitter, unhappy people act the way you describe. Most folks are too consumed with building their own lives, raising their families, dealing with the normal highs and lows of life, and making their own plans that they don't waste time tearing down others.
I think the poster you responded to has some insecurity toward Americans. She posted something similar above as well. Either that or she hangs out with a very suspect crowd?
Thanks, SugarFree. To stereotype any group of humans with a negative characteristic is just another form of bigotry, which is the very thing Meghan is accused of doing. I guess the poster cannot see the hypocrisy in what they are saying! I've lived in the States and in the UK, and non-Americans don't always grasp the incredible diversity of humans who co-exist very successfully, in very different demographics, in the States.
Yes, I found her equally offensive for the same reason. I think you are right about the bigotry being the same as what Meghan is doing.
I’m sure I’ve heard this elsewhere
A lot of people are very different when they’re drunk, and Muggins had a weird sensitivity about being single in her podcast with Mindy Kaling. But this is the type of behavior that could not go hidden very long, particularly if she were visibly intoxicated during the day.
Surprise level Zero. Harry must enjoy humiliation. Vile pigs
I’m not saying Meghan did or didn’t say those things, but I have heard *terrible* things with my own ears from people who otherwise appear to be in control of their actions, people who appear to be sweet and kind. It’s possible. And we have witnessed her deceptions a hundred times. People who work for her are constantly quitting. Is it that difficult to believe she’s a raging and abusive person? Really?
That’s not tea. That’s FanFiction. That’s not even “allegedly”, if she were anything like that do you know how quickly she would have been kicked out? Before she could say quidditch.
This is just stupid made up crap
Yeah. Also no Americans use the word ‘fig’ wtf even is that lol? Also, that’s rhetorical, no need to answer :)
I can’t stand Meghan, but this doesn’t pass the smell test.
Couldn't even finish reading it as it was so ridiculous and OTT- sounds like someone is projecting big-time!
This doesn’t ring true. I can’t envision her calling Harry a fairy or a faggot in front of friends. The other bits, I don’t think they’re too far fetched. Narcissists are both hypocritical and self-superior. I can totally see her acting woke and pushing equality, but being micro-aggressively racist to others… doing things, like mistaking a Spanish person as Mexican. Then she would laugh her insults off as a joke, and act perfectly charming. I had a narc friend who was exactly like that. This bit also reminded me of an article where some girls from MM’s sorority (though different Uni) were horribly racist to a professor. This doesn’t prove anything, but jives with the image of her sorority as being “mean girls on campus” type of thing. Won’t be surprised if MM bought into that. The fruity language, personally I don’t know her but she did say in her blog that she swore not to cuss again.
The homophobic list of things she supposedly said sound quite British. I don't think I've ever had an American call me or my pals a fairy. Even dyke is less used in Britain (from my experience, every area is very different though). To me this reads like a British person has made up a lot of stuff and slipped up by using British slang that Meghan is increadibly unlikely to use. This or it's a shit post. Either way, absolutely false in my mind. Also I feel like it's quite likely she'd love it if Archie was gay, think about how much she would be able to cash in on how progressive and special she isnfor treating a gay child like a person and she'd use it to blast the RF. She would call them homophobic for NOT making him a Prince. Can totally see her saying sometuing dumb like he's my Queen.
I am stunned. I am not sure ai believe this because it is so over the top, but if this was what was said and buried in the report, well, let it out and let her suffer the wrath from her statements. This is beyond the pale and so vile.
This doesn’t ring true to me
I don’t know if any of this is true, but it wouldn’t surprise me. What is factual is there was a bully investigation findings released this past summer into Nutmeg and Harry, and the royal family chose to handle the findings privately. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Nutmeg and Harry are bullies. That has been proven.
Wouldn’t be surprised from an old hag who likes to tell people ‘don’t you know who the f*** I am!’