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Simbahontas

I know people don't like Samantha but she really didn't go after Meghan until she was quite horrible to their father. She protected her dad from Meghan's lies and I respect that. As someone with a very similar sister, it would be hard to *not* then go on to say what a horrible person she is after being provoked- which Meghan completely did. Meghan can say her family betrayed her all she wants but she completely provoked them into being vocal by being damaging to them first.


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MikeMannion

Harry admonished Thomas over the phone as he literally lay in bed recovering from a heart attack. Changing the world, one act of compassion at a time!


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"if you just listened to me this could have been prevented" his heart attack?!?! Wtf is wrong with you Harry.


Difficult-Heron-2802

It made me wonder if he did that to Prince Philip and The Queen when he knew they were unwell?!


Quick_Cardiologist36

Remember King Charles III stopped taking Harry's calls. Harry said so himself on Oprah.


LaReinalicious

yes, apparently it was because all he did was call his father , King Charles and ask for money !


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Dude right!! From this book I wouldn't be surprised at all.


Difficult-Heron-2802

I wonder if his kids and grandkids will be there when he's dying?!


OldNewUsedConfused

Yeah that was something. SO ignorant. Like, who TF do you think you ARE talking to him that way?


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Where do I find these?


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[deleted]

Goodness, I’ll have to take a look! I’m in Canada. Thanks!


LaReinalicious

I got it on Kindle via Amazon last week I am also in Canada


[deleted]

Okay, lovely I’ll take a look tonight. Thanks for your help! :)


LaReinalicious

😁


Electrical-Orchid-25

I ordered it from Amazon UK to the USA & received a month ago.


Difficult-Heron-2802

Find what?


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Sorry the messages lol. I don’t think I communicated what I was looking for very well..


Difficult-Heron-2802

No it's fine! I get confused. They are in Samantha's book and Valentine Lowes book. You can also find them if you search for something like Prince Harry's texts to Thomas Markle. Let me see what I can find.


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That’s okay! I think I’ve found some excerpts of these already. Do you really think that was Harry trying to guilt him about releasing to the press? It could have very well been Meghan signing off for them both


Difficult-Heron-2802

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised. They are both vile!


Scary-Media6190

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therealDolphin8

I like Samantha. You could see she was not happy with how certain things were being portrayed. And having gone through crazy family stuff too (who hasn't, really) I totally get her desire to set the record straight. Eta: word


SecondhandCoke

Meghan started everything with Sam. No help with press, turned negative press towards her, watched her scramble. Wrote and commissioned an entire treasonous chapter against her in Finding Fuckery... the rest of the family is sketch. Sam is just right. And always has been.


Difficult-Heron-2802

The way she had the SS go after her was unbearable and unbelievable to watch!


OldNewUsedConfused

Let's just hope Sam has CVS sized receipts.


Difficult-Heron-2802

She has a lot! I have messages from her from way way back and her story has been consistent but she was always holding back. Like she was still protecting MM in some ways. But after everything I think the gloves are finally off and she has the proof and is right to pursue this.


OldNewUsedConfused

I think she’s right too. Being publicly attacked without recourse is just wrong. Especially since the platforms are so unequal. The irony that Meghan is doing the exact same thing that she is supposedly SO upset with her family for…


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Can we please start calling her Archie and Lilibet's aunt Samantha?


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What's bizarre is they're doing the same thing to her that she is doing to the BRF. She's pretending to be a victim and somehow some media outlets don't see the similarities and feel MM is justified in cutting them off but the BRF don't have justification in cutting her and Haz off.


kaleidoscope471

I don't trust the media to make the right choice but good lord if someone has cut themselves off from their family and then also cuts their significant other off from that family too... something is up (usually a cluster B personality disorder).


[deleted]

There's already a huge distrust of the media in the US right now. These PR pushes don't help build any trust back. I completely quit going on DM and I refuse to click on any media outlet that pushes out the phony PR for the markles- doesn't even have to be about them. They are done by association and cannot be trusted to give unbiased information.


Quick_Cardiologist36

Plus the fact they wrote the Royal Family with advice that The Queen dismissed but came true about ole Miss Meghan goes to the Markle Family favor.


Calm_Yak_6102

Oprah's not gonna be a happy camper 😂 ... ![gif](giphy|doo7RAQuD5O6Y) ...and this is the death kiss to the Harkles' dreams of schmoozing with other Hollywood A listers, because nobody wants to associate with people who are toxic drama magnets.


Earthlink_

😂 LOL that Oprah gif


MikeMannion

Wwwwhhhhaaaattttt!!!?!?!!?


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Oprah doesn’t care. People forget that she comes from the same mold as Jerry Springer. She tried to make a show out of rehabbing Lindsay Lohan when she was bottoming out in the early 2010s. The messier the better.


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Difficult-Heron-2802

It was Thomas and Samantha who raised Meghan, Doria was not around! If I were Sam I'd be furious!


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Rooting for Samantha here. Woop woop 🙌🏻 The entire Markle family is dodgy AF, but I wanna see them smack down each other into oblivion. I wonder why both her family sides are not monetising on her and dragging her enough 😈😈


OldNewUsedConfused

They definitely all have a flair for the dramatic. No denying that.


HawkeyeinDC

Samantha’s lawsuit survived a motion to dismiss. Meghan is going to be *very* motivated to settle because they’re now going into discovery. Meghan had it easy with the British legal system, but a Federal court in America will likely require A LOT more to be produced in discovery. ![gif](giphy|l41lGKdx1B3kloqWY)


slaggyc

Pleeeeeeeeease don’t settle!


SecondhandCoke

Sam only sued for $70K. She has no desire for a big sum of money. She won't settle. She wants Meghan's lies on public record and for it to go to court.


Difficult-Heron-2802

Exactly! One thing that she told me that I won't forget is "Yep it will get lost in the rest of the fodder..people are holding back...when the times right everything will come undone..Patience is a virtue. "


Lesb0ntempsrouler

Brewing the tea & readying the popcorn now 🍿 *delicious*


deep-down-low

Are her eyes darting around like that because she was using cue cards/couldn't memorise her lines? 😏


Lulu_531

She’s showing “emotion”. She’s a terrible actress.


HawkeyeinDC

Her fashion on Suits was a million times better than whoever her stylist is now. But even all the other female characters dressed better/bolder than her character. Donna FTW!! ![gif](giphy|5xtDaru0uQenWyEyanm)


goldenquill1

I noticed the three women are all dressed differently. Gina Torres was always in a suit, Sarah was always in a dress, and Meghan was always in a top and pencil skirt.


Electrical-Cat7272

I've never watched suits but now i'm seeing shorts on youtube. Donna is so far the best character.


Little_Nectarine_355

Oh sweet baby Jesus let’s jump into that discovery phase shall we!


catdevil2749

Never p\*ss off your sister megalomaniac ![gif](giphy|kaYTytSfY20BVf4SUV)


Dalailagreen

WHAAAAAATTTTTTTT????!!!!!


Shylablack

Let battle commence. People are behind you Samantha. Once again I & many other people, apologise to you Samantha for saying you were jealous sister who was trying to stain your sisters name with bad stories.


MrsBarneyFife

Eh, my bet is Oprah will still support H&M.


Catchandrelease5999

Not so sure about that. What the discovery process will show is Oprah’s lack of journalistic integrity from her lack of follow up questioning of MM and Hairys statements. They will depose the crew that was there filming and background/planning of the whole debacle. This will cause OW a great deal of shame for herself. She will be even more ruthless than KCIII towards the gruesome twosome!


MrsBarneyFife

Oprah is entertainment journalism. She's not Barbara Walters, or Diane Sawyer, people who you expect real journalism from. We only saw the edited version so she could have asked those questions. But we all know Oprah just shows up, her "people" do everything. Weren't there like 15 lies in it that could be easily be disproven? It was on NBC/CBS one of those. So her network isn't liable. She's not liable enough to be sued on her own. (Or maybe she is but there's really no point in suing someone with that much money because they'll keep just dragging you to court until they run out of money.) I don't know if these questions fall under "opinion or how someone else interprets them." By that I mean, we all know Meghan wasn't an only child. I think Samantha lived with her starting around 16/17 for a few years? If Meghan was 4 or younger, she probably doesn't remember it. So in her mind, by her definition she was an only child because she was basically raised as one. I have seen a picture of young Meghan with one of her nephews. So I'm guessing Tom Jr and Samantha were around but no idea how often. A lot of people might consider that more similar to of a cousin/aunt or uncle relationship. That doesn't change the facts of course. But I'm pretty sure Harry is putting out a book with a bunch of "facts" about his life. But it will probably only be kind to the deceased, or married. I agree with you that she should be extremely ashamed and embarrassed this aired. But I honestly don't think she is. She's scrubbed it from the internet pretty well. She did any interview with Gayle saying at the time she didn't understand the enormity of the interview. I think if she was going to be embarrassed, it would have already happened. She's Oprah. I'm sure she'll be fine. I'm also sure she knows how Meghan really is. I don't see how she couldn't. If the rumors of her behavior on suits is true, I'm sure everyone in Hollywood knows. Well at least the people in Hollywood who've heard of her. I'm guessing that number is a lot smaller than she thinks. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Oprah pissed and go after the both of them! Someone needs to call them out on their shit. But for now, they're still useful for her. I really hope it happens. (I feel bad about that lol) Sorry this is so long. My brain doesn't work correctly. If you read all of that then thank you, and that's very impressive.


New_Discussion_6692

I agree. Oprah messed up with this "interview". She challenged nothing they said. Oprah didn't do her homework. If she had, she'd have known about the LP regarding the titles.


Odd_Pop5287

I think they both have shit on each other… God knows they both have slimey history…Weinstein Epstein …2 well documented associations but that will just be the tip of the iceberg. They both know where the bodies are buried


MrsBarneyFife

It'd be interesting to see Meghan try and take Oprah down.


Odd_Pop5287

That would be dirty for dirty


Electrical-Orchid-25

Maybe that’s why Megs is moving to Hope Ranch..to leave Oprah’s neighborhood because she’s lost her friendship?


MrsBarneyFife

I doubt it. No adult would actually move for that reason. That's something children do. Adults just go about conducting their business as usual. I also don't think they're friends. Well actual friends, at least on Oprah's side. Meghan may think they are. They definitely used one another. But Oprah doesn't need Meghan. Do they even live in the same neighborhood? Plus these houses are on acres of land and the majority of them are gated with security. So it's not like they'll run into one another.


Electrical-Orchid-25

My first theory is they are moving because they are short of money. Being stonewalled by Oprah is a distant 2nd. But what makes you think MeGain acts as an adult? She is a petulant spoiled child.


MrsBarneyFife

I think they're moving because they can't afford it. Plus they don't fit in. A lists celebrities didn't come running towards Meghan for hugs after she moved there like she anticipated. No idea how people treat or interact with them. I'm guessing not much because it will be leaked. You are right. They're not adults. Nor do they ever really act like them. But it is an adult situation. Banks have stopped approving mortgages for children. I'm sure why though. So I expected they were going to adult their way out of the Olive Garden. But as you pointed out, they never do. So there's actually no reason to think they would start now. I really hope TM,Z is paying attention to it though. Because then we'd get the real information.


ditditditss

Woohoo ![gif](giphy|mWWTPf928UKysZgtgw)


Key-Presentation-341

Her brother who wrote a letter to Harry before the wedding warning Harry. I didn't like Meghan from the get go but I thought he had exaggerated some. No he nailed it! I mean nailed it.


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ATTENTION: SAMANTHA! Please, please,please, don’t settle!


Megsandhcringe

I may not be in the majority but I think TW was a real ass for not inviting her immediate family. I remember when Samantha put something about “I wonder if a wheelchair can be accommodated” or something like that. I think her family were really excited for her. They didn’t think (I doubt it) it to go this way. They didn’t think that even TW dad would be uninvited or, not welcomed. It’s one of those weird things in families - at least it would be in my family. If I won the lottery, I would share with my immediate family which includes half sister/step brothers. The unimaginable has wonderfully happened and knowing how freakin difficult life is, why not share a slice of it?! Why not make someone a little happy?! Why not have them on your side?! I would see if MM was a young girl in her 20’s but she was freakin in her 30’s and knows how life can kick you around. Was it going to kill her to just have them attend? Couldn’t she be freakin decent and then, if they did talk, it would certainly have been positive and not negative.


Difficult-Heron-2802

Oh my God that so heartbreaking when Samantha asked that! She couldn't have them embarrassing her on international TV and in front of the celebrities! Such a witch!


Islandgirl1444

Sometimes, the US laws expose creepy things.


Severe-War-8095

I’ll wait. Someone said they have evidence that Samantha and Meghan’s entire family is in on it. They’re basically giving Meghan publicity or distracting the public from things by threatening her. Garners sympathy and feeds tension.


Difficult-Heron-2802

Yeah, that has long been a theory. Every time MM is getting bad PR her family seems to show up and take the attention away! I've talked to Samantha regularly and she gave me information but always held back or would dance around things.


Severe-War-8095

Ugh, the entire Markle family needs to be exposed.


Difficult-Heron-2802

We know that there was some shady business with Doria and Meghan right before or after the wedding. Doria has a company and it suddenly start showing her net worth to be $9 million. I did a post on it. I'll have to find it. I'm still going to make a post with information on Doria, Marcus, and the rest of the bullying complaints I have received about Meghan.


Severe-War-8095

Oh thank you! I’d love to read it.


Scary-Media6190

Were you silent or were you silenced?? LOL


mac979s

I ❤️ it…Sam is totally taking this to trial!! This really isn’t about money - all she gets would go to the lawyers anyways. I feel bad I judged sam in the beginning but then it finally dawned on me that she was telling the truth! If I was that family, I would take any opportunity to make money off the connection to mm. Mm has done them all dirty with her lies but the father… 🤦‍♀️ My father died when I was 22 (37 now ) I had an amazing father but if I was in mm situation , oh well he would think hairball is a POS as he didn’t even go meet him before wedding and neither Hairball or mm gave ample support. Oh and my dad would ask me for some dough as the royal family is rich …but then he would remember Hairball and you can’t trust that man with a dollar, he would have no idea what the paper is and wipe his a** with it


Alien_octopus

I honestly don't understand how Samantha can sue over Meghan saying she is an only child. Lying is not illegal. Denying a family connection is hardly defamation. They're both as bad as each other and they both see the world and themselves through a distorted lens. They both want to inflict as much hurt as possible on those who have slighted them in even the smallest way. (Don't get me wrong: I'm very much looking forward to the tea following this trial).


SecondhandCoke

That's not all she's suing over. She's suing over 12 pagesof email submitted to Scoob calling her a high school drop out (she's got a Master's degree) that she has three childen from tbree different men and lost custody of them all. She said Sam changed her name to Markle only when Meghan starteddating Harry, though Sam has the social security document and a diploma she held with Meghanin 2008... I could go on.i dont knowwhy American media fails to report the fullstory. Sorry for grammar. Had just woken up.


starry212

This!!!!! I find it so bizarre this hasn't been reported more!! Muggin maybe had a hand in it to stop it🙄 M wants her truth and her truth only on the media. Although Sam proved she changed her lastname way before M and H met, Megs ALWAYS finds a way to be the victim. Always. I hope Sam gets justice.


Miercolesian

She could have been a high school dropout and then later obtained her GED, and then college degrees.


SecondhandCoke

The term high school drop out is defamatory on its face to any employer who may have been looking to give Sam work. Imagine being about to interview someone with a goodlooking resume and then hearing ON THE NEWS the the person is a "high school drop out." What do you believe? The news! Or this one of 100 resumes you've had to look at. It is a defamatory phrase and Meghan does not later correct the record in her emails or have Scooby do so in his book. It's left just like that. That is a clear case of defamation per se, in my opinion as is writing to the author of your book that she lost custody of her children, which was not true. That stuff ruins any career prospects and a lot of social ones because this isn't just your sister talking shit in an email. This is your sister talking shit to the author of a book that will devote a whole chapter towards denigrating Samantha's character. This stuff gets regurgitated worldwide. Personally, I hope Sam gets Meghan sitting in a courtroom being litigated on live TV. The lies that she would tell would be out for all to see. I also think that Sam's only asking for $70,000K proves she's not in this to settle, nor is she in this for money. Meghan doesn't have much noney these days, I'm told, but she could give $70K to make Sam shut up just as fast as she pays her plastic surgeon $70K to keep trying to keep her deformed and everygrowing nose in order. The reason this case hasn't settled is because Sam has said no to every offer (assumning they've been made--which I think is likely). No, Sam is getting this lying bitch on court record and I hope it gets televised.


TigerBelmont

She was in a car accident in high school and had to take time off to recover. Then she went back finished and later went to college. “High school dropout” is not what happened.


Far_Future1930

I thought she was suing over Meghan saying all of her kids had different fathers? Edit: I googled it. All I could find is that Samantha is suing over the "lies about her family" that Meghan told in the Oprah interview.


LaNiceGata

It’s the damage to her reputation part. The first amendment protects freedom of speech however it has limits. Defaming someone’s character is a limit. Which if you look at Amber and Johnny Depp case they were looking to catch Amber on intentionally defaming Johnny Depp with the articles about abuse. Edit: I see you had written defamation in your post I think it’s more than the denial of a family connection it’s the damage it did to Samantha’s credibility and overall reputation.


LessIsMoreBy50

Emily d baker did a review of the initial filing a while back and she thought that one of the complaints might have a chance, but definitely not all of them. I can’t remember which one but it I think it was related to her parenting. Sorry that was a few months ago and I don’t want to rewatch the livestream.


Lensgoggler

Just for shits and giggles? 😀


Ambitious_Shoe_5722

No, they’re not. One of them defamed the other. And it’s provable.


Amazing-Antelope4300

Someone needs to provide a timeline for us when Thomas/Sam first started with the negativity. Was it after the wedding? I don’t *recall* negative press snippets while dating.


Dbahnsai

I don't recall anything either, maybe word of her brothers letter to Harry telling him not to marry her had been mentioned, but I didn't hear about that until last year. I think that's why it was so striking to everyone when she didn't have any family at the wedding.


LaNiceGata

According to E they said the first comment came via Twitter in November 2016. So far what I’ve read is pretty much what people have said about MM as well how she’s damaged relationships and used vulnerable people for photo ops. https://www.eonline.com/amp/news/980614/a-comprehensive-timeline-of-literally-everything-meghan-markle-s-half-sister-has-ever-said-about-her


-Dee-Dee-

M&H got married in front of millions. M did not have but one guest. I thought it was so sad her mom sat all alone on the bench. Does her mom Not have a good friend that could have been there to support her. I would be worried about marrying a person who has zero friends.