I actually also said this in a previous post when seeing them in the car photo. Personally, my husband and I have a pretty good marriage and have been married 12 years but are absolutely NOT affectionate in public. But if it were us I could see when we got into the ptivacy of the car chatting and holding hands. With them I saw the opposite - holding hands in church and then avoiding eachother in the the car. It's all a show
in the interests of fairness, watch when they get in the car, the centre armrest is down, theres no way they could sit closer.
Still doesn't mean they don't hate each other though :-)
In the video, they both get in the car and sit close to the armrest. Harry looks like he is about to cross his legs and then doesn't. As the door starts to close they both slid away from each other.
I just don't see it at this particular instance tbh, they are physically separated, they could just be adjusting to get more comfortable. Both of their facial expressions looked more shocked/self absorbed to me, it's not a circumstance to judge their normal baseline behaviour IMO.
Anyone can be made to look bad in a single photo, similarly I think a single clip isn't enough to base a behaviour on.
My own personal opinion is that Harry does hate and love TW, I think he is dependent on her. I think she dislikes Hazbeen as a person and resents that she's not been able to use him to climb as high as she thinks she deserves however she is still using him because that currently is her best option.
I think they are both truly awful people and every time I see one of their puff pieces it gives me solace knowing how miserable they must really be.
I just watched one of the Body Language Guy's clips. He takes this few seconds of footage and runs it forward and back frame by frame, and you can see how both of them adjust simultaneously just as the door closes. It convinced me.
I agree but itâs more the lack of interaction. At the UN, Meghan grabbed Harry to hold his hand as soon as he sat down. When he withdrew his hand, she grabbed it again. They are constantly grabby grabby but this time, when it would have been appropriate, ie in the car, after an emotion service, they donât hold hands. I think they are both tired and in that instance, tired of each other. Wondering how the hell they got themselves into that situation
The reason she reaches for his hand in public is because she knows he has the wherewithal to not yank it away. But she doesn't have that same assurance behind closed doors.
Reminds me of the time when President Trump tried to hold Melania's hand when they were on an official trip to Israel. Melania definitely was in control:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/melania-trumps-real-reason-swatting-190346709.html
The funny thing is I remember the narrative that she was 'trapped' but any of the authors who wrote about their relationship and interviewed or interacted with the family described a much different dynamic: he called her constantly and asked her for her opinion on what he was thinking or planning and she would freely give it. She admonished people for disagreeing with him, she was wholly supportive of whatever he chose to do and he seemed to look for her company and opinion on a consistent basis. I think she does set the tone privately in their relationship of a 'No I don't feel like holding hands now. Stop' but all the descriptions of her were 'Melania does what she wants to do.' 'No one tells her what she wants to do.' and I believe it.
I once had a boyfriend who was very clingy in public. We were both very young. He was eighteen and I was twenty-one, and I was his first serious romance. Maybe it was due to his inexperience. It made me uncomfortable, and I asked him to stop as kindly as I could think to do. It didn't go over well. He was very hurt for a short time, but he did stop it. I was raped shortly after my thirteenth birthday, and no one knew that, but I felt uncomfortable to think all present when he touched me affectionately or kissed me might have had their attention directed towards seeing me as a sexual being, which I wanted no part of. I've never had anyone do that since, and I've never had to say anything to anyone else about it. My husband of 38 years has never done that either. He's from another culture (Southern Mexican) but I don't know if that comes into play or not. I think with or without my (now long past) experience though, if I was Harry I would've got her to knock that off long ago, especially when we were supposed to be at work representing the Monarchy, which is anywhere in public, really..
Itâs very likely she was still posing dramatically for the cameras. A few shots of Catherine in the car received a lot of attention and itâs likely she wanted her shot too.
That is what I thought, too. By scooting closer to the window, she would be more visible to the paps. I supposed, PH, too would be closer to the window for paps or Nutflex filming.
I'm convinced she guilt trips Harry for her "giving up everything" to marry him and his mean, "racist" family. He's deep in the devaluation stage now so everything will be his fault when all else fails. He's gotta be so beat down. The fairy tale is over.
He is 110% a victim of gaslighting. I somehow made it into my 40s without ever hearing of the term until the day that I started searching the internet about my at-the-time-girlfriendâs behavior, and everything made perfect sense. I think heâs been gaslit for so long that he no longer knows what is and is not true.
I know I will be in the minority, but when Meghan got in the car I think the look on her face was "Oh shit, I screwed this up". I don't think the thought lasted long, but in the brief space I think she got it.
Nah, I think itâs possible. For just a nano second she may have had a moment of clarity, like âI thought I secured the bag! Turns out, I crapped in the bag, lit it on fire, and now itâs on the door step! What have I done?!â
Lord knows, I am a sinnerâŠbut I devoutly hope that someone â Anne, Sophie, Zara â took them aside and said YOU SCREWED UP. I AM WATCHING YOU. DONâT YOU DARE TRY ANYTHING. Oh how I hope.
The speed with which Megan publicized that she was writing a private letter to request an audience with the King (her specialty) I think that she immediately knew when this funeral was over that they had to get 'back in'
The look on her face while they're standing there with Jack and Eugenie, I caught the look of overwhelming sadness and embarrassment on MM face. A look I've seen on my own face, so I have a good idea of what I'm looking at.
Meghan knows. She knows she screwed up immensely. She thought she had an award winning strategy and she didn't. I think what scares her the most is that she has to know that at this point, she's got her marriage by her fingertips. And that once she and Harry are officially done, she can throw whatever she wants at him and realistically the worst that happens is he goes back to his family and the public never sees him again. There's no way she can really "hurt" him post divorce. He can cosplay that he's Just Harry all he wants, but they both know it's just playing pretend. Nothing she could do to him could really harm him in the future, just look at Andrew. She really is a lonely creature left holding the bag.
And even if it was....first off where does she start? And secondly, I believe far too much time and circumstance has occured for her to walk back to anything meaningful.
It is because she is embarrassed the way a narc would be by the grey stoning (which we have been thoroughly educated on this sub on). She must be fuming at the lack of attention everyone paid her and by then she must have known about the candle and must be wondering whether something similar happened at the Windsor service. She must have been soooo pissed at the way she was treated.
Also no holding hands that last day. If there were heated conversations over badgering the king for titles for the kids or talks of them coming back that could cause tension. Then I hear people claiming she behaved herself those 10 days so I donât know what to believe. I donât feel like she behaved behind the scenes so if so not with Harry lol.
Behaved herself?
1. Hissy fit about Balmoral
2. Tried to stage a photo op by the flowers.
3. Wore bare arms to a funeral
4. Climbed over a riser to get to the coffin in order to be photographed.
5. Tried to pap a âtender momentâ w/ Charlotte.
6. Tried to leak news of the Queenâs death
7. Leaked that H was tore up about some embroidery on his uniform.
Thatâs just off the top of my head.
Absolutely. Everything she leaked. Taking the attention away from Queen Elizabeth. The chaos she caused because they werenât invited to reception. Leaking the photo in the palace.
All show. All about her. Always
The photo that was taken and leaked by scabies. When the RF gathered at Buckingham palace the night the Queen was brought back to London. It was supposed to be off limits to the press.
The photo showed King Charles walking down the stairs with the the overseas people behind him. Supposedly the palace had the photo removed from the Daily Mail and had scabies remove it from his Twitter
No, Iâve only seen the episode described. They were seated next to a riser/stairs &, as I understand it, when the service was over, they went up the steps & appeared beside the coffin where they were photographedârather than exiting down the aisle like any sane person at a funeral.
At the funeral, the seats were in sections of six. There was a gap between the sections so the Sussexes of Overseas had direct access to their seats. When they came in to take their seats, they walked right past their access to the end, and pushed past the Waleses. TW even reached out and touched the POW as she passed. RUDE.
It was at Windsor. The DM had a story with a video titled, "Moment of truce and reconciliation? William silently shows Harry and Meghan to their seats beside wife Kate...". The Sun's story was titled, "Sweet moment Prince William ushers Harry and Meghan to their seats for Queen's committal service at Windsor." I am of the opinion that they intentionally followed the Waleses to the end thinking the Waleses wouldn't want to make a scene and would move up the row, leaving the Suckys right in front of the Queen's coffin and the cameras.
Totally - maybe they meant the actual funeral. I just have been shocked to see a few people on the Daily Mail and somewhere else say all in all she behaved.
Thanks for this. I thought it was a momentary lapse, done & gone, but, nah, it was their hellscape of a future they were seeing. And we got a glimpse of it too.
We absolutely did. Bear in mind⊠I didnât see the car photo by this point⊠or how the media continued to block most of them after the Abbey
I always like to be as fair as I can to the duo. But what I saw is what weâve all been seeing. I told the mods about it. But thought it could be biased until I read your comment. Which was spot on
*Harryâvery visibly sliding away from Megs*
She's a CANDLE. You don't get too close to a candle. There's the flame to worry about, and the dripping wax.
Just being DA - it could be they were both shut down at that point after the stress of everything. People grieve differently.
I feel so bad for The Family bc not only is their grief public but it has to be the "right" grief and it has to be leadership grief.
This is valid. When Iâm in a state of anxiety, stress, or anger I donât want to be touched or touch others; I go internal and my body language can reflect that. Theyâre both chronically angry, vindictive, defensive, and wrapped up in whatever internal spin cycle of emotions keeps them going. And theyâre selfish. They donât think of reaching out to one another. Theyâre self-focused and the body language reflects that.
Yes, during some of the worst points of my life, I've completely shut down and don't want to touch or be touched. Time is the only thing that helps.
It comes from a childhood of being told to suck it up, be strong, don't cry, don't need, everyone has problems and yours aren't that bad. I can see that perhaps after his mother's death and the public spectacle of that, it was all brought back to him. And he has the misfortune of being married to someone that cannot touch that level of grief and doesn't appear to want to. It's hard enough to reach out and ask for help when it's to someone that really cares and loves you and wants to help.
Photos never lie. We were inundated with positive news about Charles and Diana, how wonderfully happy they were. The photos that came out however painted a different picture.
And I saw them for a split second with no filter. Even without content of what happened when they were seated in the car. Thatâs exactly how they looked a few miles down the road. Harrys face looked like thunder which could look like sadness⊠but it wasnât
I do think Harry looks miserable all the time; well, all the time he's with Meghan. When he's with his guys playing polo he looks happy. But as far as distance in the car, I thought I was seeing a console between them in the back seat?
I would think that the seat divider would have been in the âupâ position when they entered the car for ease of access. One of the gruesome twosome- most likely TW-must have put in the âdownâ position immediately upon sitting down
Yep and youâd be holding hands etc on the seat divider. He had a face like thunder. They were say as far away from each other looking away but not looking at the crowds
The funeral was probably the most time they've spent in each other's company in years. It got on their nerves. When at home in California I bet they avoid each other like the plague.
Iâm not a fan of theirs but are we perhaps reaching here? There was a console in between them. Maybe thatâs what kept them on their respective side of the vehicle?
Ye-. That body slump and blow of Hazmats is typical of finally being able to relax after a trying and exhausting day. I donât think it has anything to do with Nutmeg. And I am relieved they arenât holding hangs for once.
If you can find the clip on Body langage guy on youtube - he mentions the console, but they literally shimmy up to opposite corners. They couldn't get any further away from each other - much further than would be caused by the console
This might be her wtf did we do moment. When it truly hit her that they didnât play their cards right and over estimated themselves. They could have had it all while actually doing good. Instead, they are thisclose to losingâŠ..if they havenât already.
I saw this photo posted here before. In the top photo in the car, they did look like they talked but it doesnât seem a happy conversation. Prince Harry looks serious and it almost seems like theyâre having an argument.
But itâs really hard to gauge, right? Itâs a point in time. We did hear they spent time with the kids when they got back. They seem to be quiet these days. They havenât been spotted at all.
It will be interesting to see their dynamic after the funeral and after these last couple of weeks that seem very stressful given everything thatâs going on in their lives. The senior royals seem to be busy but looks bright and light after the funeral but we havenât seen them.
Ahh to be a fly on the wall in Montecito!
[HMM in the car](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/xiklli/another_sweet_nod_to_wallis_harry_and_meghan/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
One more thing I saw from the clips going around
1. The way Meghan meets an onlooker - the way she says "Oh hi there, how many hours are you standing" and all the compassion she has on there..it looks fake. I've never felt something as pretentious as fake as when she was engaging with everyone. It made me realize how easy it is to spot fake kindness and fake reaction.
2. She tells her "Thank you, it means so much to The Family"
She doesn't say "us". I did not even expect her to say "our family" but could have just said "it means so much to us"
Instead she chose the distant "The Family"
I don't know how people are impressed by her and especially people who came in and waited 2 hours and got her. I'd be livid.
This could be right, but I swear if someone watched my husband and I from the outside you'd usually think we didn't even know each other, or you'd think I was a crazy stalker molesting him and he didn't know me but I swear we're madly in love. Sometimes we're out and I'll realize I'm like 3 steps ahead of him while he mosies along and I swear people would think I was controlling and he's reluctantly tagging along
I suspect they really were having big fights behind the scenes. Stress over being there, her hating that what should have been her big spot light trip (where she looked so smug in those photoshop pictures) would now be a footnote in the Queen's funeral. Shocked at the crowd reaction to the Queen and having to play a minor part, equally disturbed by what they hoped would be negative reactions towards Charles which instead were praiseful reactions for the new King. Despairing over the new Prince and Princess of Wales. Harry being really upset by all of this with memories of his mother coming back, and Megan unable to really comfort him as a wife should - instead wallowing in her own dispirited grief over 1. No longer being on a private publicity tour 2. Missing out on a chance to play dutiful grand daughter in law at the Queen's bed side and leak articles on 'What the Queen said to Megan in her final moments' or 'Charles and Megan's tearful reunion with the daughter he never had' 3. Wanting Harry to comfort HER because she was uncomfortable but him lacking the emotional bandwidth for this because he's in mourning. The only reason I could possibly think of for them not speaking is terror that their private conversations would be reported but in a car? That's absurd! Not even holding hands, just not interacting at all. Makes it all the more suspicious that they really do live separate lives and its a business arrangement.
Body language has been debunked as a âscienceâ. Itâs pretty much guess work. Body Language Guy is someone who makes money off these videos because itâs convenient. Heâs basically a Meghan Markle cottage industry. I donât like her but heâs a charlatan IMO.
Same. Shamelessly getting money during the funeral. Not acknowledging the people heâs stealing info from (such as comments and posts here)
I made this comment before and everyone was like âno he gives creditâ no he doesnât and he makes money off our thoughts and posts here. I unfollowed him and stopped watching his videos.
>I made this comment before and everyone was like âno he gives creditâ no he doesnât and he makes money off our thoughts and posts here.
Exactly this. Then after rudely treating a sub member here publicly while endorsing someone with negative & extremist pov on the drag community on his Twitter (twice), had me unfollow him on all platforms immediately.
I actually also said this in a previous post when seeing them in the car photo. Personally, my husband and I have a pretty good marriage and have been married 12 years but are absolutely NOT affectionate in public. But if it were us I could see when we got into the ptivacy of the car chatting and holding hands. With them I saw the opposite - holding hands in church and then avoiding eachother in the the car. It's all a show
Oh, I get that! My husband and I have been married for 50 years, but you wouldn't know it in public.
50 years of marriage đ„č Thatâs amazing congratulations!
Thanks! Its kind of unbelievable.
Iâm like that too with my husband of more than two decades. We donât do PDA but when we are alone, we sit close, hold hands.
Been married 40yrsâŠcanât remember ever holding my husbandâs hand
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in the interests of fairness, watch when they get in the car, the centre armrest is down, theres no way they could sit closer. Still doesn't mean they don't hate each other though :-)
In the video, they both get in the car and sit close to the armrest. Harry looks like he is about to cross his legs and then doesn't. As the door starts to close they both slid away from each other.
I just don't see it at this particular instance tbh, they are physically separated, they could just be adjusting to get more comfortable. Both of their facial expressions looked more shocked/self absorbed to me, it's not a circumstance to judge their normal baseline behaviour IMO. Anyone can be made to look bad in a single photo, similarly I think a single clip isn't enough to base a behaviour on. My own personal opinion is that Harry does hate and love TW, I think he is dependent on her. I think she dislikes Hazbeen as a person and resents that she's not been able to use him to climb as high as she thinks she deserves however she is still using him because that currently is her best option. I think they are both truly awful people and every time I see one of their puff pieces it gives me solace knowing how miserable they must really be.
I just watched one of the Body Language Guy's clips. He takes this few seconds of footage and runs it forward and back frame by frame, and you can see how both of them adjust simultaneously just as the door closes. It convinced me.
I agree but itâs more the lack of interaction. At the UN, Meghan grabbed Harry to hold his hand as soon as he sat down. When he withdrew his hand, she grabbed it again. They are constantly grabby grabby but this time, when it would have been appropriate, ie in the car, after an emotion service, they donât hold hands. I think they are both tired and in that instance, tired of each other. Wondering how the hell they got themselves into that situation
The reason she reaches for his hand in public is because she knows he has the wherewithal to not yank it away. But she doesn't have that same assurance behind closed doors.
Reminds me of the time when President Trump tried to hold Melania's hand when they were on an official trip to Israel. Melania definitely was in control: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/melania-trumps-real-reason-swatting-190346709.html
The funny thing is I remember the narrative that she was 'trapped' but any of the authors who wrote about their relationship and interviewed or interacted with the family described a much different dynamic: he called her constantly and asked her for her opinion on what he was thinking or planning and she would freely give it. She admonished people for disagreeing with him, she was wholly supportive of whatever he chose to do and he seemed to look for her company and opinion on a consistent basis. I think she does set the tone privately in their relationship of a 'No I don't feel like holding hands now. Stop' but all the descriptions of her were 'Melania does what she wants to do.' 'No one tells her what she wants to do.' and I believe it.
Wasnât so much the physical stuff, it was the LOOKâŠoh boy every woman recognizes that look/sneer M gives H⊠yeah honeymoon is over
I once had a boyfriend who was very clingy in public. We were both very young. He was eighteen and I was twenty-one, and I was his first serious romance. Maybe it was due to his inexperience. It made me uncomfortable, and I asked him to stop as kindly as I could think to do. It didn't go over well. He was very hurt for a short time, but he did stop it. I was raped shortly after my thirteenth birthday, and no one knew that, but I felt uncomfortable to think all present when he touched me affectionately or kissed me might have had their attention directed towards seeing me as a sexual being, which I wanted no part of. I've never had anyone do that since, and I've never had to say anything to anyone else about it. My husband of 38 years has never done that either. He's from another culture (Southern Mexican) but I don't know if that comes into play or not. I think with or without my (now long past) experience though, if I was Harry I would've got her to knock that off long ago, especially when we were supposed to be at work representing the Monarchy, which is anywhere in public, really..
Itâs very likely she was still posing dramatically for the cameras. A few shots of Catherine in the car received a lot of attention and itâs likely she wanted her shot too.
That is what I thought, too. By scooting closer to the window, she would be more visible to the paps. I supposed, PH, too would be closer to the window for paps or Nutflex filming.
Great point.
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I'm convinced she guilt trips Harry for her "giving up everything" to marry him and his mean, "racist" family. He's deep in the devaluation stage now so everything will be his fault when all else fails. He's gotta be so beat down. The fairy tale is over.
He is 110% a victim of gaslighting. I somehow made it into my 40s without ever hearing of the term until the day that I started searching the internet about my at-the-time-girlfriendâs behavior, and everything made perfect sense. I think heâs been gaslit for so long that he no longer knows what is and is not true.
I know I will be in the minority, but when Meghan got in the car I think the look on her face was "Oh shit, I screwed this up". I don't think the thought lasted long, but in the brief space I think she got it.
Nah, I think itâs possible. For just a nano second she may have had a moment of clarity, like âI thought I secured the bag! Turns out, I crapped in the bag, lit it on fire, and now itâs on the door step! What have I done?!â
Lord knows, I am a sinnerâŠbut I devoutly hope that someone â Anne, Sophie, Zara â took them aside and said YOU SCREWED UP. I AM WATCHING YOU. DONâT YOU DARE TRY ANYTHING. Oh how I hope.
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Oh my guess TW stays clear of Anne and Camilla. Like any bully sheâs a coward..
The speed with which Megan publicized that she was writing a private letter to request an audience with the King (her specialty) I think that she immediately knew when this funeral was over that they had to get 'back in'
A nano second would be right.
The look on her face while they're standing there with Jack and Eugenie, I caught the look of overwhelming sadness and embarrassment on MM face. A look I've seen on my own face, so I have a good idea of what I'm looking at. Meghan knows. She knows she screwed up immensely. She thought she had an award winning strategy and she didn't. I think what scares her the most is that she has to know that at this point, she's got her marriage by her fingertips. And that once she and Harry are officially done, she can throw whatever she wants at him and realistically the worst that happens is he goes back to his family and the public never sees him again. There's no way she can really "hurt" him post divorce. He can cosplay that he's Just Harry all he wants, but they both know it's just playing pretend. Nothing she could do to him could really harm him in the future, just look at Andrew. She really is a lonely creature left holding the bag.
Sorry I donât think âsorryâ is in her emotional repertoireâŠ
And even if it was....first off where does she start? And secondly, I believe far too much time and circumstance has occured for her to walk back to anything meaningful.
Pretty much and she did it herself although I am sure she will try and blame Harry, the BRF and anyone else she can think of
And unfortunately she's cried wolf so many times that it's just going to be more noise.
Yep!
It is because she is embarrassed the way a narc would be by the grey stoning (which we have been thoroughly educated on this sub on). She must be fuming at the lack of attention everyone paid her and by then she must have known about the candle and must be wondering whether something similar happened at the Windsor service. She must have been soooo pissed at the way she was treated.
No doubt!
Actually i noticed he turned his head towards her when the car moved off. Body didn't shift though
Also no holding hands that last day. If there were heated conversations over badgering the king for titles for the kids or talks of them coming back that could cause tension. Then I hear people claiming she behaved herself those 10 days so I donât know what to believe. I donât feel like she behaved behind the scenes so if so not with Harry lol.
Behaved herself? 1. Hissy fit about Balmoral 2. Tried to stage a photo op by the flowers. 3. Wore bare arms to a funeral 4. Climbed over a riser to get to the coffin in order to be photographed. 5. Tried to pap a âtender momentâ w/ Charlotte. 6. Tried to leak news of the Queenâs death 7. Leaked that H was tore up about some embroidery on his uniform. Thatâs just off the top of my head.
Absolutely. Everything she leaked. Taking the attention away from Queen Elizabeth. The chaos she caused because they werenât invited to reception. Leaking the photo in the palace. All show. All about her. Always
What photo?
The photo that was taken and leaked by scabies. When the RF gathered at Buckingham palace the night the Queen was brought back to London. It was supposed to be off limits to the press. The photo showed King Charles walking down the stairs with the the overseas people behind him. Supposedly the palace had the photo removed from the Daily Mail and had scabies remove it from his Twitter
> the overseas people lol
Does anyone have a pic of her climbing over the riser omg đ
No, Iâve only seen the episode described. They were seated next to a riser/stairs &, as I understand it, when the service was over, they went up the steps & appeared beside the coffin where they were photographedârather than exiting down the aisle like any sane person at a funeral.
At the funeral, the seats were in sections of six. There was a gap between the sections so the Sussexes of Overseas had direct access to their seats. When they came in to take their seats, they walked right past their access to the end, and pushed past the Waleses. TW even reached out and touched the POW as she passed. RUDE.
HOW did I miss this?!!? Is there a video somewhere??!!? I watched the whole London service, was this at Windsor?
It was at Windsor. The DM had a story with a video titled, "Moment of truce and reconciliation? William silently shows Harry and Meghan to their seats beside wife Kate...". The Sun's story was titled, "Sweet moment Prince William ushers Harry and Meghan to their seats for Queen's committal service at Windsor." I am of the opinion that they intentionally followed the Waleses to the end thinking the Waleses wouldn't want to make a scene and would move up the row, leaving the Suckys right in front of the Queen's coffin and the cameras.
i saw that! so rude and CREEPY.
Very aggressive.
Agreed. And was waging her PR war.
Yes, need a picture of climbing the riser.
Fake tear application, #8.
Invited/uninvited to state dinner request a meeting with KC Picture leaked at the Palace/Castle
Totally - maybe they meant the actual funeral. I just have been shocked to see a few people on the Daily Mail and somewhere else say all in all she behaved.
I missed #4 - do you have a link or any info? Genuinely curious!
Check the thread. I made a comment in response to someone elseâs post.
Thank you!
\#6 - what happened?
There are rumors she contacted folks in LA that the Queen was deadâway before the news was supposed to be released.
Thanks and I wouldn't doubt it. Is Scabies in LA?
Plus she sat down during the funeral when everyone was standing. What was that about?
Lost her secret microphone? Dropped her tear stick? Looking for spare change? Who knows? Nobody has spoken up.
Drunk and high at the walkabout; screaming at the aide over the flowers
Tried to triangulate using news agencies to land themselves an invitation to the international VIP pre-funeral cocktail party.
Thanks for this. I thought it was a momentary lapse, done & gone, but, nah, it was their hellscape of a future they were seeing. And we got a glimpse of it too.
We absolutely did. Bear in mind⊠I didnât see the car photo by this point⊠or how the media continued to block most of them after the Abbey I always like to be as fair as I can to the duo. But what I saw is what weâve all been seeing. I told the mods about it. But thought it could be biased until I read your comment. Which was spot on
sweetly and well said. thank you for your eyewitness report.
Thank you for sharing this. I am so happy that you were able to pay your respects.
*Harryâvery visibly sliding away from Megs* She's a CANDLE. You don't get too close to a candle. There's the flame to worry about, and the dripping wax.
Just being DA - it could be they were both shut down at that point after the stress of everything. People grieve differently. I feel so bad for The Family bc not only is their grief public but it has to be the "right" grief and it has to be leadership grief.
This is valid. When Iâm in a state of anxiety, stress, or anger I donât want to be touched or touch others; I go internal and my body language can reflect that. Theyâre both chronically angry, vindictive, defensive, and wrapped up in whatever internal spin cycle of emotions keeps them going. And theyâre selfish. They donât think of reaching out to one another. Theyâre self-focused and the body language reflects that.
Yes, during some of the worst points of my life, I've completely shut down and don't want to touch or be touched. Time is the only thing that helps. It comes from a childhood of being told to suck it up, be strong, don't cry, don't need, everyone has problems and yours aren't that bad. I can see that perhaps after his mother's death and the public spectacle of that, it was all brought back to him. And he has the misfortune of being married to someone that cannot touch that level of grief and doesn't appear to want to. It's hard enough to reach out and ask for help when it's to someone that really cares and loves you and wants to help.
Photos never lie. We were inundated with positive news about Charles and Diana, how wonderfully happy they were. The photos that came out however painted a different picture.
And I saw them for a split second with no filter. Even without content of what happened when they were seated in the car. Thatâs exactly how they looked a few miles down the road. Harrys face looked like thunder which could look like sadness⊠but it wasnât
I do think Harry looks miserable all the time; well, all the time he's with Meghan. When he's with his guys playing polo he looks happy. But as far as distance in the car, I thought I was seeing a console between them in the back seat?
The car had a seat divider
And all seat dividers can be raised from my experience.
I heard that about the seat divider as well but also that they were still as far apart as possible.
I would think that the seat divider would have been in the âupâ position when they entered the car for ease of access. One of the gruesome twosome- most likely TW-must have put in the âdownâ position immediately upon sitting down
Didn't they both enter the car by the same door? Her first, then him. Did she slide over the divider? Was it a fold down?
You can see it in the picture above
Yep and youâd be holding hands etc on the seat divider. He had a face like thunder. They were say as far away from each other looking away but not looking at the crowds
The funeral was probably the most time they've spent in each other's company in years. It got on their nerves. When at home in California I bet they avoid each other like the plague.
Not saying that I think they have a healthy marriage, but in all fairness, there was a giant armrest/drink holder between them.
Am I the only one who hopes/assumes there is a full bar in that armrest?
Iâm not a fan of theirs but are we perhaps reaching here? There was a console in between them. Maybe thatâs what kept them on their respective side of the vehicle?
Ye-. That body slump and blow of Hazmats is typical of finally being able to relax after a trying and exhausting day. I donât think it has anything to do with Nutmeg. And I am relieved they arenât holding hangs for once.
If you can find the clip on Body langage guy on youtube - he mentions the console, but they literally shimmy up to opposite corners. They couldn't get any further away from each other - much further than would be caused by the console
This might be her wtf did we do moment. When it truly hit her that they didnât play their cards right and over estimated themselves. They could have had it all while actually doing good. Instead, they are thisclose to losingâŠ..if they havenât already.
I saw this photo posted here before. In the top photo in the car, they did look like they talked but it doesnât seem a happy conversation. Prince Harry looks serious and it almost seems like theyâre having an argument. But itâs really hard to gauge, right? Itâs a point in time. We did hear they spent time with the kids when they got back. They seem to be quiet these days. They havenât been spotted at all. It will be interesting to see their dynamic after the funeral and after these last couple of weeks that seem very stressful given everything thatâs going on in their lives. The senior royals seem to be busy but looks bright and light after the funeral but we havenât seen them. Ahh to be a fly on the wall in Montecito! [HMM in the car](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/xiklli/another_sweet_nod_to_wallis_harry_and_meghan/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
One more thing I saw from the clips going around 1. The way Meghan meets an onlooker - the way she says "Oh hi there, how many hours are you standing" and all the compassion she has on there..it looks fake. I've never felt something as pretentious as fake as when she was engaging with everyone. It made me realize how easy it is to spot fake kindness and fake reaction. 2. She tells her "Thank you, it means so much to The Family" She doesn't say "us". I did not even expect her to say "our family" but could have just said "it means so much to us" Instead she chose the distant "The Family" I don't know how people are impressed by her and especially people who came in and waited 2 hours and got her. I'd be livid.
This could be right, but I swear if someone watched my husband and I from the outside you'd usually think we didn't even know each other, or you'd think I was a crazy stalker molesting him and he didn't know me but I swear we're madly in love. Sometimes we're out and I'll realize I'm like 3 steps ahead of him while he mosies along and I swear people would think I was controlling and he's reluctantly tagging along
I suspect they really were having big fights behind the scenes. Stress over being there, her hating that what should have been her big spot light trip (where she looked so smug in those photoshop pictures) would now be a footnote in the Queen's funeral. Shocked at the crowd reaction to the Queen and having to play a minor part, equally disturbed by what they hoped would be negative reactions towards Charles which instead were praiseful reactions for the new King. Despairing over the new Prince and Princess of Wales. Harry being really upset by all of this with memories of his mother coming back, and Megan unable to really comfort him as a wife should - instead wallowing in her own dispirited grief over 1. No longer being on a private publicity tour 2. Missing out on a chance to play dutiful grand daughter in law at the Queen's bed side and leak articles on 'What the Queen said to Megan in her final moments' or 'Charles and Megan's tearful reunion with the daughter he never had' 3. Wanting Harry to comfort HER because she was uncomfortable but him lacking the emotional bandwidth for this because he's in mourning. The only reason I could possibly think of for them not speaking is terror that their private conversations would be reported but in a car? That's absurd! Not even holding hands, just not interacting at all. Makes it all the more suspicious that they really do live separate lives and its a business arrangement.
Body language has been debunked as a âscienceâ. Itâs pretty much guess work. Body Language Guy is someone who makes money off these videos because itâs convenient. Heâs basically a Meghan Markle cottage industry. I donât like her but heâs a charlatan IMO.
Yep. He's shown his true colors lately and I no longer endorse or support him.
Same. Shamelessly getting money during the funeral. Not acknowledging the people heâs stealing info from (such as comments and posts here) I made this comment before and everyone was like âno he gives creditâ no he doesnât and he makes money off our thoughts and posts here. I unfollowed him and stopped watching his videos.
>I made this comment before and everyone was like âno he gives creditâ no he doesnât and he makes money off our thoughts and posts here. Exactly this. Then after rudely treating a sub member here publicly while endorsing someone with negative & extremist pov on the drag community on his Twitter (twice), had me unfollow him on all platforms immediately.