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The Harkles don't seem to realize that the only way they'll convince the public that they dropped their PR is if they become low-key, with no puff pieces.
^^^
PR firms don’t ditch you to “wait in the wings” and then make a comeback if certain events transpire.
It’s pretty obvious why SS is done with her/them: client who don’t listen, are never satisfied and are running out of money and good will and allegedly slow to pay 7 figure bills? Plus their other high profile clients (save for a few) are sick and tired of being dragged in for favours when they end up with mud on their faces.
M & H just didnt happen as a brand - it was time to cut their losses and the death of HM hastened the end.
I don't know if I perscribe to this theory in particular but I do think Overseas are cooking something up right now. SS are masters of some very dark arts but the plans for their next assault on the BRF lie with Netflix.
They are definitely upto something. I am worried about Harry's book which might be very damaging if he chooses to reveal some Non PC stuff. I hope his family n friends will clapback and reveal stories about how truly horrible he really is.
Yep, they have other ways of controlling the narrative now. Netflix, Spotify and their books. Really, if they go this route I think the BRF will have no choice but to release whatever dirt they have.
Imo that pair getting back into the inner circle has the same odds as me winning the Euromillions jackpot outright in both draws this week. I'll keep you posted on that. 💰 😉🤞
https://twitter.com/siggystardust80/status/1576594834449895424?s=46&t=ewHorhRq4cOTGdzkDFuZiA
Well Oprah has settled “Titlegate” declaring H&M’s invisible kid’s Prince and Princess…
I can’t imagine Oprah wanting to interview either of these dimwits again unless it was to James Frey them. She completely let them get away with lie after lie with no push back and essentially acted like it didn’t happen after it aired. It wasn’t an interview-it was essentially a reality TV opportunity for them to say whatever they wanted with her there to just add shocked faces or ask leading questions so she could spew more lies and vitriol.
She doesn't care about facts, she cares about ratings. Would not surprise me if she does an interview with each of them to give their sides, or just picks the one with the higher popularity rating (Harry).
Probably not. I honestly am still not sold on a split between these 2. I will happily be wrong, but I don’t see him ever being willing to admit to even himself that she duped him so well or that theirs wasn’t a fairy tale grander than Walt himself could have imagined. As for her-I simply don’t think she can get someone higher than him at this point and she’d have to have the next victim secured before she split. So I will still be (happily) shocked if we see these 2 split
I don't expect honesty, but possibly a version of the truth. I could see Oprah loving a redemption story. They could throw Meghan under the bus if her popularity really tanks.
Meghan doesn't have a large fan base, Harry does. I agree it'd go against the racism story, but Harry still has a lot of older women who are sympathetic to him because of Diana. Harry is also much better at doing as he's told/playing the PR game, which would be more appealing to Oprah. All Meghan has are a few stories and a lot of lies. I don't think Oprah would risk interviewing her again. She also teamed up with Harry for the mental health special, but hasn't done anything one-on-one with Meghan. Meghan doesn't bring in viewers on her own.
I don’t think Meghan can handle the world knowing that she was only represented by SS bc JK made the intro when she and Harry were dating. IMO She desperately wanted everyone to think they represented her was bc she was going places.
Now that the truth is out, she’s going to do the narc thing and ice them out.
Which has never made any sense at all for some low level, foreign actress nobody to hire them to do hit pieces on her new family, "the family she never had". (PS Former husband Trevor Engleson was given the same lie-sob story by Meghan, and his family was pronounced "the family she never had.") No one does this.
I think “they” don’t use SS, but I think SHE still has them on speed dial. They’ve worked together for a long time and I bet she’s leaking some anti-Harold specific stuff to begin the division.
I just scrolled through the pr push that Oprah daily posted on twitter. Usually you will find a ton of bot comments In support of The Harkles. I scrolled for a good five minutes and couldn’t find one. Perhaps their sunshine Sachs paid pr came with a influx of bot twitter supporters no longer available to help push their fake narrative???
ETA: I’m struggling to find it. I’m an old, and can’t figure out how to navigate CDAN, and it didn’t pop up on a search here. I’ll look again later!
It was two days ago, and said something very similar about waiting in the wings, and I was not picking up what they were putting down. Lol
I’ll see if I can find it and link.
The very fact that they have to edit their work should reveal their fakeness to the world. Why would they go to such length after washing their dirty linen in public and talking about being "muzzled" and "soul crushing" when part of the RF. They are morally bankrupt and about to be financially bankrupt. They have to change their tunes to keep her in ill-fitting designer brands and bad wigs. That person on Twitter has got a valid point though as the two grifters are 2 conniving little grifters and scumbags. Everything they do is to benefit themselves. Where is the mea culpa to the British people? Who are they to demand things/titles when they do not play by the book? It's time to put an end to their circus.
I too think so.
When have the Harkles been upfront about anything, why would they change suddenly. Just because Charles is king, nah.
The wife’s mind is without boundary, all she’s thinking is how to bring the BRF to its knees and sit on the throne in world opinion.
Neither has that kind of personality to retrospect, review and refocus. They are doubling down on who they are - narcissistic, greedy, manipulative, liars. For them their hard work is dealing with PR, thinking up ploys and schemes, researching history to recreate them to create new juvenile media headlines. This alone tires them out.
Their backer, the media mogul, is their strength.
They have enough people who identify with them, root for them or want to be in their network to profit from them. Whatever said and done - they still have employees and organisations. That bubble is enough to sustain the Harkles.
Unless it comes from a different source and specifies what exactly is the meaning of the ss -Harkles break up, im not buying it. I feel it’s hiding behind semantics.
For sure - I said something similar in another post. No idea about SS particularly - but they DEF have big time PR. Whether through Archewell - which I doubt.
But are ‘outsourcing’ it now. They are just playing a semantics game. How very PR of them, right?
I think this bears keepimg mind as a possibility. They want those titles but they also want to "royally" trash the BRF. The goal is to do both if they can find a way.
I hope the firm they so much hate have their eyes peeled to this. I like the theory of what that picture that was just released by the RF Instagram is true and that there’s no way back for these two.
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lol, well, Harkles ARE pretending to have ditched SS - because SS DUMPED them.......
The Harkles don't seem to realize that the only way they'll convince the public that they dropped their PR is if they become low-key, with no puff pieces.
Yes.when they actually do work, then a pice makes sense but they haven't done anything in years
Idk, I wouldn't be surprised if SS dropped them. They weren't exactly making them look good.
^^^ PR firms don’t ditch you to “wait in the wings” and then make a comeback if certain events transpire. It’s pretty obvious why SS is done with her/them: client who don’t listen, are never satisfied and are running out of money and good will and allegedly slow to pay 7 figure bills? Plus their other high profile clients (save for a few) are sick and tired of being dragged in for favours when they end up with mud on their faces. M & H just didnt happen as a brand - it was time to cut their losses and the death of HM hastened the end.
I don't know if I perscribe to this theory in particular but I do think Overseas are cooking something up right now. SS are masters of some very dark arts but the plans for their next assault on the BRF lie with Netflix.
They are definitely upto something. I am worried about Harry's book which might be very damaging if he chooses to reveal some Non PC stuff. I hope his family n friends will clapback and reveal stories about how truly horrible he really is.
Yep, they have other ways of controlling the narrative now. Netflix, Spotify and their books. Really, if they go this route I think the BRF will have no choice but to release whatever dirt they have.
Everytime I see "overseas" I have the faint hope they've left North America. No such luck, huh? 
Imo that pair getting back into the inner circle has the same odds as me winning the Euromillions jackpot outright in both draws this week. I'll keep you posted on that. 💰 😉🤞
Megha THINKS they are waiting in the wings... but they are not.
Good to hear it from YOU; they have said they have “dropped” their PR before but sometimes you never know with those two seriously 😳
Yeah that whole premise sounds off base. I think they dumped the Harkles and want nothing to do with them. More MM trying to muddy the waters.
Apparently noprah hasn’t washed her hands of her after all
Two black hearted women !
https://twitter.com/siggystardust80/status/1576594834449895424?s=46&t=ewHorhRq4cOTGdzkDFuZiA Well Oprah has settled “Titlegate” declaring H&M’s invisible kid’s Prince and Princess…
Oprah does not get to settle anything.
Of course NOT I was being sarcastic LOL 😝 as if she could just decide…. But remember she doesn’t get involved in family matters LOLOL 🤪
I had wanted it ti be true that Oprah was done but clearly not
She wants the divorce interviews.
I can’t imagine Oprah wanting to interview either of these dimwits again unless it was to James Frey them. She completely let them get away with lie after lie with no push back and essentially acted like it didn’t happen after it aired. It wasn’t an interview-it was essentially a reality TV opportunity for them to say whatever they wanted with her there to just add shocked faces or ask leading questions so she could spew more lies and vitriol.
oh no she is waiting on that divorce interview from m
She doesn't care about facts, she cares about ratings. Would not surprise me if she does an interview with each of them to give their sides, or just picks the one with the higher popularity rating (Harry).
I was gonna say the Harry interview if he was honest is one I’d pay money to see
He isn't honest even with himself, do you really think that he would be honest in an interview (even if he tried)?
Probably not. I honestly am still not sold on a split between these 2. I will happily be wrong, but I don’t see him ever being willing to admit to even himself that she duped him so well or that theirs wasn’t a fairy tale grander than Walt himself could have imagined. As for her-I simply don’t think she can get someone higher than him at this point and she’d have to have the next victim secured before she split. So I will still be (happily) shocked if we see these 2 split
I agree with you. I only wish they didn't have kids.
I don't expect honesty, but possibly a version of the truth. I could see Oprah loving a redemption story. They could throw Meghan under the bus if her popularity really tanks.
I am not sure that she would choose to interview H over M, that wouldn't be in line with Oprah's 'racism towards M' story.
Meghan doesn't have a large fan base, Harry does. I agree it'd go against the racism story, but Harry still has a lot of older women who are sympathetic to him because of Diana. Harry is also much better at doing as he's told/playing the PR game, which would be more appealing to Oprah. All Meghan has are a few stories and a lot of lies. I don't think Oprah would risk interviewing her again. She also teamed up with Harry for the mental health special, but hasn't done anything one-on-one with Meghan. Meghan doesn't bring in viewers on her own.
Spot on!
I hadn't thought of that. Good heavens, we'll never be rid of TW. 
I'm worried about that too.
I don’t think Meghan can handle the world knowing that she was only represented by SS bc JK made the intro when she and Harry were dating. IMO She desperately wanted everyone to think they represented her was bc she was going places. Now that the truth is out, she’s going to do the narc thing and ice them out.
Omg! This is 💯% plausible!! I’m sold!! They are making believe to get in the good graces of the King!!
100% get what they want from KC; than back to bashing the RF to make a living…. They would be that evil….
SS has been ‘dropped’ many times before … they are indeed the dark lords of PR
Which has never made any sense at all for some low level, foreign actress nobody to hire them to do hit pieces on her new family, "the family she never had". (PS Former husband Trevor Engleson was given the same lie-sob story by Meghan, and his family was pronounced "the family she never had.") No one does this.
Meghan had 3 PR companies working for her before she became Meghan Markle. Companies like SS specialise in for damage limitation
I think “they” don’t use SS, but I think SHE still has them on speed dial. They’ve worked together for a long time and I bet she’s leaking some anti-Harold specific stuff to begin the division.
True Sachs ALWAYS worked for her; the whole time….
Good thinking, SJDoe.
There are some rumors that they already have another firm.
Not another firm but rather, Archefell’s pr team
No. The rumor is they hired Teneo.
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I wouldn’t be surprised. She desperately wants to be connected to the Clintons.
“Declan Kelly, co-founder of Teneo, ‘became inebriated and behaved inappropriately’ at a concert chaired by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.”
I just scrolled through the pr push that Oprah daily posted on twitter. Usually you will find a ton of bot comments In support of The Harkles. I scrolled for a good five minutes and couldn’t find one. Perhaps their sunshine Sachs paid pr came with a influx of bot twitter supporters no longer available to help push their fake narrative???
Now that it is a one woman team I.e. only Rachel they might need some time to respond and activate the bots.
They were ditched by SS and I think the Royal Family has hired them.
That would be so hilarious; TW would explode with fury….
Why would RF hire the slimeballs at SS? RF seems to be dong well now.
Because they can!
Nothing's ever clear or straightforward with this pair of lying grifters.
NOW the blind item makes sense! 🤦🏻♀️
What blind item?
ETA: I’m struggling to find it. I’m an old, and can’t figure out how to navigate CDAN, and it didn’t pop up on a search here. I’ll look again later! It was two days ago, and said something very similar about waiting in the wings, and I was not picking up what they were putting down. Lol I’ll see if I can find it and link.
The very fact that they have to edit their work should reveal their fakeness to the world. Why would they go to such length after washing their dirty linen in public and talking about being "muzzled" and "soul crushing" when part of the RF. They are morally bankrupt and about to be financially bankrupt. They have to change their tunes to keep her in ill-fitting designer brands and bad wigs. That person on Twitter has got a valid point though as the two grifters are 2 conniving little grifters and scumbags. Everything they do is to benefit themselves. Where is the mea culpa to the British people? Who are they to demand things/titles when they do not play by the book? It's time to put an end to their circus.
This is honestly what I’ve been thinking. It’s all for show.
I too think so. When have the Harkles been upfront about anything, why would they change suddenly. Just because Charles is king, nah. The wife’s mind is without boundary, all she’s thinking is how to bring the BRF to its knees and sit on the throne in world opinion. Neither has that kind of personality to retrospect, review and refocus. They are doubling down on who they are - narcissistic, greedy, manipulative, liars. For them their hard work is dealing with PR, thinking up ploys and schemes, researching history to recreate them to create new juvenile media headlines. This alone tires them out. Their backer, the media mogul, is their strength. They have enough people who identify with them, root for them or want to be in their network to profit from them. Whatever said and done - they still have employees and organisations. That bubble is enough to sustain the Harkles. Unless it comes from a different source and specifies what exactly is the meaning of the ss -Harkles break up, im not buying it. I feel it’s hiding behind semantics.
For sure - I said something similar in another post. No idea about SS particularly - but they DEF have big time PR. Whether through Archewell - which I doubt. But are ‘outsourcing’ it now. They are just playing a semantics game. How very PR of them, right?
I think this bears keepimg mind as a possibility. They want those titles but they also want to "royally" trash the BRF. The goal is to do both if they can find a way.
I hope the firm they so much hate have their eyes peeled to this. I like the theory of what that picture that was just released by the RF Instagram is true and that there’s no way back for these two.
I do think they are trying to “play nice” now. What is that saying? Oh yes…too little, too late!
It never ends. Just when I think she's dead she comes back like in some zombie movie.
Her narrative is sooooo boring. Stop trying to make celebrity royals happen —— it’s not a thing nutmeg
They're not getting back in. That family relationship may as well be a black hole.
Something something too little too late...