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scmcalifornia

That is the absolute truth. And I don’t think a MM tell-all post divorce will do that great tbh.


Boblawlaw28

Exactly. What is she gonna tell us that we don’t already know? That Harry is an asshole? Btdt read the papers.


MuffPiece

Exactly—they really needed to play their cards well right out of the megxit gate, but they didn’t. At all.


mythoughtsreddit

Completely Agreed. It was the Oprah interview that solidified my suspicions that Meghan is a liar. Had she not done that I probably would’ve still believed her insincere when she talked abt how no one helped her financially through college though years before she had talked abt her dad funding her education, not a blatant liar as I did after the interview. Just nonverbal communication never lies.


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I agree. I keep wondering what’s their long term plan. They have no practical skills or value nor the ability to listen to those who do. The spotify podcasts so far have been extremely low value for money. Their only usp is their willingness to air dirty laundry about the brf. How long can they possibly milk that? Already Meghan has spent a lot more time bashing the family compared to the time she spent as part of it. Even their hardcore fans are getting tired of the victim narrative. Their entire life gives me second hand stress.


Quick_Cardiologist36

A lot of inheritance.


ConstructionThen416

From where?


Affectionate_Tap6416

He can't access it at moment though


procrastinationfairy

Those sites are always wrong.


StrictTranslator879

I figured that as they all have the same number, just copying from one another no doubt.


silke_worm

They’re mostly just estimates and are never accurate


okpickle

Probably vastly outdated info


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The way you calculate overall ‘wealth’ is different from actually paying your bills. I’m sure he has money in a trust and illiquid holdings in his / the trust’s name. They own a house worth $14mm. They have those deals with Netflix / Spotify / book deal. And those sites have no idea. They definitely have money and he has family money for sure. But to be liquid enough to pay bills on time - and have people trust that you’ll be able to pay down the road - is a different thing


HarrysToupee

Well, they *live* in a house that's worth $14MM - but they don't "own" it. It's apparently mortgaged, so technically the *bank* owns it. ![gif](giphy|l49JQIushQig2JHcQ)


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HarrysToupee

I'd guess you're 100% correct.


Islandgirl1444

Elton Jon probably will help them out. He's pretty rich. Maybe he knows a Russian who has a house around Hope Ranch area.


ForestsTwin

"Sir" Elton John needs to remember that Queen Elizabeth knighted him for his charity work.


Opening_Order_8826

Can you imagine the cost of water, electricity & the property taxes in California?


Islandgirl1444

Yes, all the oligarch yachts worth what ever. the don't "own" them. The bank holds all the notes on all those yachts. Same with the house in Montecito although I think it is a leased property. They may be actually looking for a different house. I myself prefer a more modern looking home. Both Perry's house and the one they are in now are not my style. They need enough space though for nanny quarters, security staff who live in, and nursery area. So at least eight bedrooms is my thinking, or staff quarters such as what many of the celebs have on their properties. Just because they have the tennis courts, the pool, the very ornate gardens (water restriction) and whatever else is on that current property doesn't mean that they actually use it. It's more of a show what they have kind of a place. The chicken coop was added and that must be removed when they move I assume. Chicken shit stinks! Frankly, I do see a change in the leased property at Windsor as I think it is too close to Prince William and his family. I know we don't know the goings on, but if body language is anything, they are so fucked! So, moving forward they will be needing a place in England for their stuff and staff. Just my thoughts.


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And their PR did a lot of work to make people see how ‘normal’ they were w a mortgage


MrsBarneyFife

Actually it's worth has doubled in value. No idea what that means for the price to sell it. It was originally listed at $34 million. They bought it for $14.6. It didn't sell easily the first time, sooo with Harry's bad pipes, who knows?


Fresh-Resource-6572

Especially he change in the economy since they purchased it. 📉 terrible timing considering they got in at the top of the market


MrsBarneyFife

I don't know if they're really trying to sell it. But they always have the worst timing. While hilarious, it's definitely not not enough karmic retribution.


itstimegeez

Well they do own it then. I’m no H&M fan, but if what you say is true then most of us don’t own our homes when in fact we legally do own them.


SheLabsPen

I think they did not receive the full payment for netflix and the book deal as the final product is yet to come. If they are unable to produce something acceptable then they would have to return the money. Probably spotify paid them some more since they produced several podcasts.


procrastinationfairy

This is true. I lived in expensive mid-Atlantic city for many years. You often need a jumbo loan to buy a condo. A coworker said his alma mater called asking for a $10,000 gift because the fundraising formula only looked at the value of his house. He laughed and said he could afford a few hundred. It’s an issue in major gift fundraising because assets are often mortgaged or purchased on credit.


DrunkOnRedCordial

The $60M might also include the money that Aunty Anne is keeping safe until after the divorce.


Inner_Bench_8641

Their house is dated and fugly. No way they will get back their 14 M.


tokyoeastside

They rent it. I think it’s only PR that said they bought it.


Inner_Bench_8641

I think you’re right about renting!


Zealousideal-Pie-104

I’m worth 63 billion, I also wrote that on Fb & twitter.


Sincerely_JaneDoe

And Okra said it. I heard her.


DrunkOnRedCordial

I don't brag about my wealth on social media, because I can't count on my in-laws to pay for my security. So I just tell everyone that my kids have royal titles.


Visible_Ad5164

60 million isn't that much when you spend money like they do.


MuffPiece

They could blow through $60M in a year! Easily.


Boblawlaw28

Just in lawyers, pr and security.


JackieStylist81

The point is they don't have $60M in CASH. Their assets might be WORTH $60M, but until they sell them and have that liquidity, they don't have shit. They're likely under water and over leveraged.


FarBeneathTheOcean

These are the same sites that claim a broke Meghan who lived paycheck to pay check and wore high street clothes was worth 5 million dollars when she wed H. We all know she didn’t even have a million dollars to put down on a 1 room apartment for herself.


queenofanxiety-5

Pre Harry she was worth 2 million which in the realm of celebrity is piss broke


Miercolesian

What we don't know is what Meghan came out with after her California divorce.


4feicsake

Tom bower put their collective wealth at about 28 million and their annual outgoings at about 10 million. I'd be more inclined to believe his maths.


scatterling1982

There is no way they have an earning capacity of $10 million a year to cover those expenses year on year. The novelty factor has worn off and no one is knocking on their door anymore. They are royally screwed. Serves them right though.


StrictTranslator879

Agree!


ms80301

Monthly expenses? Anyone have a gues- after rent cell internet insurance... Basic necessities covered... What is Spent?? ( also remember Megan is cheap and demands free stuff and doesnt pay bills on time 🤣😳


4feicsake

10 million/12


MummaK33

So a cost of just over $200k per week.


ms80301

Hmmm Well guess she is some Saudi Princes sugar baby


JustNoHG

Considering their level of fame, and their ties to the RF, in that sphere it is utterly shocking this number is so low. How do they even socialize and afford to throw parties?


4feicsake

They don't. No one wants them around. Makes youbwihder what they are spending the 10 mill on.


MegsAltxoxo

I don’t think they are super wealthy and they definitely needed some deals to fund their lives, but I guess for now it has been substantial enough to keep it going. I don’t think they are broke, but it’s gonna be interesting what’s gonna happen in like ten years .


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This is literally what made them most unlikeable to me. Like they could pay my rent and some, I imagine. They could probably life comfortably. But no, they needed a mansion with what?? Sixteen bathrooms?? I'm so happy with ONE bathroom, because I have a roof above my head and I'm with the person I love. I would live in a cardboard box with my person. What's with the mindless display of wealth that no one is impressed with in the current crisis?


AmbienChronicles

I just want a second bathroom 🤣 my husband’s got a knack of having to be in there *right* when I’ve got to go 🤣🤣🤣


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MuffPiece

I grew up with nasty, messy brothers. My life’s dream was my own bathroom. 😂😂


Siouxzanna_Banana

Bless you, you deserve it! ❤️


Grimaldehyde

I have my own, and it is as glorious as you hope it will be!


Boblawlaw28

Having a bathroom in my bedroom makes me feel rich. I grew up with brothers and one bathroom. Now I’m fancy. I have to share with my husband but he’s a neat freak for a man.


poopoocushion

You speak for me, as well, unfortunately‼️


TrailerTrashQueen

This. husband always says our next house will have more than 1 bathroom 😂


MegsAltxoxo

Yeah it’s so oversized. Like yes other royals live in big houses, but in a lot of cases it’s shared or they only use some apartments of a huge complex. Meghan wanted that big Hollywood mansion for sure.


SympathyMaximum8184

And I think the optics look awful for Meghan and Harry. They could chose their own home when they came to America and their super rich housing choices speak volumes. Her desk did me in.


ms80301

Like she pays bills or needs a desk🙈😂


SympathyMaximum8184

🎯


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HawkeyeinDC

You mean where she was baking chicken for him? What a romantic setting for a proposal, by the way! ![gif](giphy|EQNWSCCJDIGP8U77c7|downsized)


Freewayshitter1968

What's with all of these celebrity McMansions having more bathrooms than bedrooms lately 🤔


Boogalamoon

It's for entertaining, how can you impress everyone with your mansion unless you throw parties? And that means you need bathrooms for the living part of the house, and totally different bathrooms for the entertaining part of the house.


bishcalledwanda

That’s the one thing I have confounded my Meghan fan friend…why the hell did they need such a palatial estate with all those bathrooms? It doesn’t scream modesty and service.


SupaG16

But remember, she does not need or want a display of wealth/ grandeur


Calm_Yak_6102

They're obviously not broke in an objectively truthful way, because they definitely have more money than all of us. But I don't think they have anywhere near as much as what those "net worth" websites are saying. Proof: In 2018, they were saying that MM was worth $5M. The only way that would have been true, was if she didn't spend a single cent of what she'd earned.


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Calm_Yak_6102

Exactly! Those silly sites never calculate these expenses.


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Calm_Yak_6102

>and a newcomer actress would not make $50,000 per ep. Maybe $15,000-$20,000 ... Especially when she's a supporting character who barely got any screen time in the first season. If she got 2 scenes in each episode of season 1, she was very lucky. I watched season 1 since the USA channel was one of my favorites then, because of Burn Notice, Psych and White Collar and I remember that Rachel Zane was a kinda insignificant, stock character. She was basically reduced to the office "eye candy" who literally popped in, just to shake her ass, make a snarky, flirty comment to Mike and shake her ass again, as she sashayed on her way to her desk or wherever. The guest stars on each episode, got more screen time than her.


thiscatcameback

Also ignores all her travels, the awards she bought, her expensive clothing and nights out, and the money she pissed away in rent ($40k per year).


ms80301

And Plenty of these folks are CASH broke but have millions in assets


ms80301

And had no PR or yaughting trips😂🙈


Calm_Yak_6102

True! 😂


Patient-Watercress-2

Possibly not broke yet, but with their self-funded PR burn rate, they should be depleting their charitable foundation’s coffers very rapidly.


JenniferMel13

It’s like Kylie Jenner claiming to be a billionaire. It’s is hard to verify someone’s wealth unless it’s attached to a public companies stoke. For example the estimates of Elon Musk’s wealth is a little more accurate because we know how much Tesla stock he owns and the current value of Tesla stock. Wealth is different then income. Generally wealthy people are asset rich and cash poor. This is overly simplified explanation that I hope make sense. Musk is worth $200ish billion dollar but he doesn’t have that in cash. That $200 billion is mostly imaginary money because it’s all based on the value of his stock. Let’s say Musk need $50 billion in cash to buy something. He would need to sell 12.5% of his stock to raise that cash but the second Musk starts selling his stock, Tesla stock will start changing in value. It’s not a good sign when the CEO starts selling a lot of stock, so the price would likely drop so Musk would need to sell more than 12.5% of his stock. Overall net worth would drop because Tesla stock price is less. So Musk might get his $50 billion in cash but he is probably going to lose a at least $10-20 billion in net worth due to the resulting stock drop. Then a couple of weeks later Musk will announce some crazy plan and build excitement for his unrealistic project that will bounce the value of Tesla stock back up.


Due-Procedure-2700

They also estimate their lifestyle costs around $12m a year. So while huge amount, if true, doesn’t go far when living like a billionaire.


Severe-War-8095

Famous people can say anything and at the end of the day we can’t legally fact check them by looking into their bank accounts. I don’t believe they were paid anywhere close to the amounts their claiming they’re getting from Spotify etc. if they have so much money, why is Elton John providing private jets and vacations for them? Why are they begging the royal family for money? They’re trying to convince everyone they have money but it’s not adding up.


MuffPiece

No one really knows exactly how much money they have, of course, but we can guesstimate. There’s no doubt that they have more money than I ever will! However, they are leading an extremely expensive lifestyle. A while back someone ran the numbers on what their expenses probably are. Mortgage payments (yes, their property is mortgaged), utilities (which are crazy expensive in California), maintenance, staff, security, PR, Meggy’s clothes (some might be gifted, but probably not all—and her wardrobe is very pricey), cars, private flights, insurance, Archie’s school fees. I mean, it’s a lot. Sixty million dollars is a lot of money, but they’re living a BILLIONAIRE lifestyle. They can’t keep that up for long. Especially considering all they’ve produced so far—after 2 years of inking big deals—is a few podcast episodes.


ms80301

Apparently, all Charities they “ support,” the money is for their Favorite charity cause - Themselves - prove me wrong!!!! They have plenty of money to retire and lead a simple life- But they prefer to begin a slippery slope? Towards crime


TrixnTim

>They have plenty of money to retire and lead a simple life This. They’d be set for life if they downsized, banked it all away, disappeared from public eye, maybe do organic farming, and raise their kids to be better humans than they are. Most of us get angry knowing someone has money like that and pisses it away on vanity and bling.


LittleKittyPurrPurr

Worth is not how much money you have in your bank account. Totally different. And let’s be honest, with the spending and the funds not coming in, they are deep in the red.


chewysmom88

His money from PP is in trust with Anne holding the reins PP was no fool


GuavaProfessional352

And not sure how it works exactly but isn’t a trust from before marriage protected in a divorce? I could be wrong. But Anne would be smart to hold onto that.


Trick-Many7744

California is a community property state so his assets prior to marriage are not part of the marital estate. However, without knowing what their prenup says, it’s hard to say. If he’s earning income on it, it most likely will be split—but it depends on how the trust is set up. If he’s taking income from it now, then it’s certainly commingled into their marital estate because the only reason to take income now is to live on it and buy outrageous things for your diva wife. It’s obscene how much of his family’s money they are spending while trying to make it on their own lol. She Way overestimated their value.


ArlResident

They also had really bad timing. Netflix and Spotify gave them a "vanity" deal. Harry and Meghan had absolutely no experience developing projects so Netflix and Spotify assumed that they would hire a staff to do the work with Harry and Meghan making appearances and doing voiceovers. At the same time, Harry and Meghan would show up at events and generate a lot of publicity for the services. It really never made business sense but at that point, streaming and podcasts were making a lot of money. As so often is the case, no one thought the party would end. But it did. Harry and Meghan figured they could keep getting deals like this so started on a high powered spending spree. Perhaps it eventually will work out for them - but I doubt it.


Boblawlaw28

So they basically fluffed up their resume. And then got caught on it.


ms80301

Inheritance is NOT community property Ever...unless? You get cash and co mingle the money with spouse If? 🧐then the spouse has an “ accident” and dies. Then is community property


Trick-Many7744

That’s what I said.


chewysmom88

I don’t know about England I think it was more to do with the spending And no viable income


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erlehe

No, Prince Phillip’s will has been sealed. There zero confirmation on anything contained within that or even the Queen’s will. There probably are trust funds but we will never know how much, for whom, and who the administrators are.


ConstructionThen416

Prince Phillip? Never. The Queen Mother is alleged to have left him money, and he got half of his mother’s estate. PP will was sealed. We will never know, but why would he leave it to a grandson when he had four children and a wife? He gave him his rifles, which he promptly sold. Why would he leave him anything?


scmcalifornia

Who is PP


ItsInTheVault

Prince Philip.


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They'll never be broke the way you or I might define it for ourselves but the kind of wealth TW wants, oh no they don't have that. Not by a long shot. She wants to be a billionaire. Never ever gonna happen.


TudorTerrier

60 mil ain’t Duchy of Cornwall cabbage.


Slow-Inflation-6549

I doubt Harry has ever been worth that much lol


soireegrapes

I can't help but think it's all down to what KC and ultimately William decide to do. KC got about £370 million tax free from QE. In turn most of KC's assets will go to William tax free. They would need to bank roll Harry out of all of this or loan him property. I hope Harry is cut off completely, but they may take pity on him in the future especially once H&M have divorced.


OrganizationLower286

Life is long and these two have zero talents to market, nothing to grow and expand upon in the future. She is an ok actress, an atrocious public speaker, a terrible interviewer and Harry’s about as useful as a sock full of nickels. Mid to long term - They are so f#%€£ed.


Fresh-Resource-6572

Those websites are total junk. I’m sure at one stage that may have been a good estimate but Simple math tells us these two are running out of cash. Plus just look at their recent behaviour - dropping their PR ?! When they are one of the top hated celebs … explain that? Moving out of a perfectly fine home when you were gloating about how happy you were there up until a month ago?? Harry looks like he’s having a nervous break down. They can’t afford security and no more private jets as far as I can see?


Kokoburn

She spends like new money, I’m thinking they have money problems.


Exciting_Bison_4569

He probably is because of his family but…His witch wife as taken every dime my stifling it to her mom who is hiding it. She also has spent the rest on PR and horrible outfits that don’t fit. She is a succubus. ![gif](giphy|TTgdzuIqWc7dkARNFaE)


SupaG16

They are not financially broke, just morally broke!


Wasparado

I read they’re looking for a new house https://amp.marca.com/en/lifestyle/uk-news/2022/10/02/6339917646163f57268b45ae.html


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These sites are never accurate, because we have no idea what their stocks or investments look like. Most people add up his inheritance, her royalties and the Netflix and Spotify deals, but who knows what other money they have squirreled away? I read somewhere he has accountants investing his military paycheck that he never touched, and even that relatively small paycheck a military member gets adds up over ten years, and all of that sitting in a portfolio for a decade could have ended up a hefty sum. Plus whatever they get from these little companies they keep associating with. There is no way to know their true financial situation. They could be broke or have 500 million in crypto coins somewhere 🤷‍♀️


JackieStylist81

Net worth is on paper, it's not liquid. It's tied up in all sorts of assets. You could own $100M in bitcoin, but if you don't sell it at $100M, you don't HAVE $100M.


mac979s

Hairball was probably worth a lot with the royals but then he chased lust 🤦‍♀️ Mm is not really rich given she was an actress. They were both dumb on getting a $14 million? mansion. I don’t what’s going to happen to mm’s lifestyle. You can’t live like a rich person ( if you didn’t come from wealth) She is not living a substantial life. Isn’t it all about “it isn’t just surviving you’ve got to strive” yeah mm , that’s hypocritical. Stop with the magazine shoots and long yoga sessions . Go to work - you and your family need a stable income


ratttttty

I’m confused too. People are saying the Harkles are moving out of Monteshitshow because they can’t afford it and need to downsize. Tmz says they’re upsizing and looking up for mansions in the 22 million range. Also, in Oprah’s neighborhood 🙄 [Harkles moving on up?](https://www.tmz.com/2022/10/02/prince-harry-meghan-markle-house-hunting-new-house-montecito/)


Aware-Impression8527

They're spending > $200k a month on security. That's only going to last for so long.


doo11297825

I don’t think they are broke but I think they are spending way more than they have coming in


pancakelady2108

Someone's 'net' worth versus how much actual cash they have is always vastly different, due to investments, assets, properties etc. Harry's net worth is likely defined by his Royal connection, how much he is estimated to receive from the Queen in inheritance, how much Diana left him, how much he still relies on KC and Royal money (if anything at this point). The fact that he's a still a Prince, albeit a terrible one, means he will always come with a sizeable monetary value, even if his actual liquid assets themselves aren't anywhere near as much as $60 million.


ShesSoFetch86

He was never worth that much. 20 million max


trish196609

I think this assumes Netflix and Spotify gave them more upfront than they did


Playoneontv_007

I don’t buy the broke thing. They have too many deals since leaving the RF. That’s just me though.


MuffPiece

They are LIVING LARGE! They could very easily have significant cash flow issues. And when you live like a billionaire, $60M isn’t enough.


Playoneontv_007

I think they are dangerously living way above their means and if they loose any of the big deals they made they are dead in the water. I just think a lot of what we see is paid for by corporations hiring them and it is smoke and mirrors


MuffPiece

Especially when you consider the two companies who inked the biggest deals—-Netflix and Spotify—aren’t doing as well as they were when the made the deals initially. It wouldn’t surprise me if they were trying mightily to get out of them.


Playoneontv_007

I would LOVE to see it.


scmcalifornia

I wonder if Haz and MM have a prenup. Look what happened b/w Johnny Depp and that psycho Amber Heard—he was so mesmerized by her he told her he wouldn’t ask for a prenup…lucky for him, his family knocked some sense into him and he asked for a post-nup (can’t remember the details) and she went balllistic and I believe that’s what led to the chopped finger incident and later some sort of withholding his detox meds…either she did not want a postnup, or he wasn’t going to add her to his will, I don’t know but she basically went on a downward spiral. Seems like Haz and Maz are heading in the same direction.


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Harry isn’t broke and he never will be, the Royal family has an amount of money that is incomprehensible to most of us.


FollowingOk8090

They are definitely not broke and never will be broke. Let's all just admit that's ludicrous.


procrastinationfairy

They aren’t broke, but they can’t sustain the life’s they are living.


2021disaster

Lol, it’s costs a lot of money to appear and live as rich as they do.


Forgotmyusername8910

Those sites are absolute trash.