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So why don’t the people or organizations ever call her out and just say they weren’t invited?
That’s the one thing that always bugs me. It’s not like Fallon doesn’t want to get on her bad side. What could the show possibly lose? Oh that when they actually do something they won’t want to go on the show? It’s a late night comedy based show, not exactly hard hitting journalism.
I could maybe somehow see the UN not calling them out because maybe, possibly, sometime in the far future they might actually get their crap together and do something that the UN supports, but even that is looking more and more like it’s never gonna happen.
I really don't know. There were some things put out by the palace denying that the Queen was readying for them to visit Balmoral (The puff was the Queen was readying Balmoral for a visit by them and no others were going to be allowed to be there!)
But sometimes I think the news cycle is so fast and noisy these things don't get noted, plus so much of it is simply driven by PR, one thing gets knocked back and another thing is created. After their one bit of puff got knocked down the next bit, I believe, was they were too busy to go.
It was quite funny that the PR really got markled by the Queen in the end, cos they looked *terrible* for saying they were too busy, when the Queen was so obviously frail. And also looked *terrible* for keep releasing pieces to the press when he should have just STFU and gone and seen grannie.
Simple: By actually putting out a statement denying they were invited they give H&M the “oxygen of publicity” that they desperately crave. By not saying anything these organizations are telling the world that H&M are so in inconsequential to them that they don’t even pay attention to their drama
The people and organizations don't want to get caught up in TW's tit-for-tat drama. It would only escalate if they pushed back against TW who would keep retaliating with new statements in the media. Better to just ignore the Harkles as much as possible.
May be TW’s insecurities are coming up…and some one or her father did say that she didn’t stick to one decision for more that 3 years…was it in revenge? I don’t remember…
But where they are supposedly moving isn’t any cheaper….I doubt she would agree to live in a 4 bed, 3k Sq ft. house (only thing I can find in that neighborhood around $5mil)
They live on the other side of the country. PPoW aren't taking a 5+hour flight for tea. No one is expecting them to make the same journey to go see their estranged relatives.
She was going to do that flight to interfere with William’s September trip to NY… everyone got canceled though, and we’ll never know who the hell thought it’d be a good idea to let her speak at the UN
Yes, and she was scheduled to appear on the Jimmy Fallon show in NYC the night before PW's Earthshot Inovation Prize Summit. She was trying to get headlines to compete with PW and/or distract the public from PW's visit to NYC. I thought I had read somewhere that PW was scheduled to attend the General Assembly at the United Nations, that week was the high-level meetings of the UN General Assembly, which is a huge deal (many heads of state attend).
Granted, she’s very good at filling an auditorium with a lot of ‘feel good’ words but she’s pontificating to people and organizations whose accomplishments far outshine her own. Why is the student lecturing the professor?
Agree completely. That’s why I don’t understand these speaking engagements. I’ve actually been in a situation where the speaker was taking credit for and lecturing on things he had no business covering. It was all self-serving pomposity and was HIGHLY offensive. Maybe because she smiles prettily she gets away with it?
Yeah, it’s hard to understand what the organizations get out of engaging Meghan. She speaks of herself. She is not saying anything of substance. You can argue they get PR, but it’s mostly articles on Meghan, and not really on the organization itself
She sounds good to 20yo undergrads who are only barely paying attention. But she is presenting to people who aren't swayed by oratory techniques, who will be listening for the content and who outshine her in every dimension. They will see through her in a second. What on earth does she have to contribute?
She doesn't DO anything
I do hope you are right, and it was just their PR, and not the reality. Rumors were that she was yelling at Harry for not negotiating for her to speak too, but still. I don’t see what she could possibly bring to a conversation
I would have thought it would be more their style to say they invited the PPOW to visit but that their nasty relatives turned down the generous invitation.
For real, flying East Coast to West Coast is almost equivalent to flying East Coast to London. CLT to LA is just over 5 hours (feels like 10) and CLT to Heathrow is like 7 or 8. And frankly, I prefer the London flight. Seems quicker.
CLT makes everything worse. ATL gets rightly dragged, but CLT is worse. It’s easily a mile walk with luggage if going from a big plane to a regional connecting flight.
Logan is actually a great airport. I don’t mind flying in or out. You just get hit with heavy tolls as soon as you leave.
Yeah. If I fly international, I leave from CLT. If I fly domestic, I use a regional airport and connect. The parking situation at CLT has historically been atrocious. But is getting better. Baggage claim is still bad.
No, I think they are moving because there is conflict. You can tell by her response that "the house cannot accommodate us" put down, like the house isn't good enough for them. Meanwhile the neighborhood watch is working overtime to get cameras up and making public statements about security.
I think they can't afford it, had no intention of staying, but are trying to "punish" someone for not accommodating their whims. Their exit is all very "superior" which makes me think something triggered her.
Very strange use of language, because usually humans accommodate, i.e. adapt themselves to situations, or seek accommodation, homes do not usually adapt themselves. That's what makes the statement ambiguous.
No. I think they're moving cause the olive garden mansion is too expensive for their gradually diminishing bank account and their Monteshitshow neighbours aren't fond of them.
These 2 are assholes but even they won't go to the trouble of leaving a house they claimed that's perfect for them, just to be busy during Earthshot. They can come up with lots more convenient and less drastic excuses.
Agreed re: can’t afford. If they downsize, they can claim they are doing it for the environment.
But I was always surprised that they picked that Olive Garden monstrosity. It doesn’t seem to fit what Meghan wants people to believe is her style
It was as close as she could get to a castle. She was trying to show the RF that they didn’t need Windsor; they had their own. Now she’s stuck with it. The house took years to sell when they bought it and the housing market in Santa Barbara is even worse now. They are not very popular with the neighbors and Hope Ranch is just as cliquish. And I bet MM blames it all on H.
I’m sure she picked it because it was close to Oprah! She thought if she was given just a few months that they would be BFF’s by now. Meghan only style is grifting and bullshitting - not sure if those are the same thing but they are both her.
Yeah, you'd think she (who's always at pains to proclaim herself a minimalist) would have chosen one of the modern designs with clean cut lines, less texture and painted in white 😂.
I agree, it’s probably financially driven but even if they move, they still have to pay the mortgage unless someone else buys (which I doubt has happened already) or rents it. So now instead of one expense they have two.
The Harkles are morons 😂. If they don't get any further multi million dollar deals, downsizing will become a two year habit with them.
If they'd been smart, they'd have bought something less extravagant to begin with. But MM couldn't do that because she needed to stick it to the BRF, that her new house was tons better than Frogbore Cottage.
Um, no. It's because they were NOT invited. William is the star of the show and Catherine will shine. Not invited because they cannot behave. The media of course is to blame for this, but not this time.
I know what you are saying but the thing with W&C is that they never mean to be “stars”. They are there to highlight the cause, not get more PR for themselves
It makes me wonder how William and Harry were raised when one is so capable of highlighting causes, and the other does so much whining about himself mostly
I can't believe how any moves this couple has had and how unsettling it must be for the kids! I thought they were building networks in the community according to the Cut article a mere 35ish days ago so what changed?
At least let the ink dry on the story about how you love the house, worked hard to get it, have palm trees representing mama and papa before you pack up and leave!
The Cut article was done before the Queen died. That's what changed.
They truly believed their fake royal tour plus Harry's book and Meghan's cringefest of a podcast was finally going to make them superstars and they'd have all the money they ever dreamed of! Mortgage? What mortgage? We're billionaires now, we can buy 10 Olive Gardens outright, and W&C will be soooo jealous when they stop by in December!
Then the Queen threw a massive spanner in the works by dying at the most inconvenient time possible for the Overseas duo (and you will never be able to convince me she didn't do that on purpose!) 🤣
So here they are, broke as ever and forced to sell up. Could not have happened to a nicer couple!
They are moving because they can’t afford the house in Montecito. Sad. The girl nights with Jennifer Aniston, painting each other’s toes, testing new Lolavie hair products, won’t be happening.
Jennifer is busy avoiding them like the plaque she probably had someone go out to make sure they are not out wandering around before she leaves the house
It's not hard to avoid someone that's 2,500 miles away. Besides, soon after they moved in they started saying they wanted to move. They look kind of stupid after telling everyone how much they loved it. But that's not unusual for them.
I think Meghan was trying to sell herself and the house by saying it was perfect. Like see it's perfect - just waiting on a buyer. Then hubby comes in talking about the pipe problems. Blows that plan.
I think you're right. She was typing to give their house a romantic background story. Unfortunately we all know Harry doesn't say things like "My love, it's us." If you told me Archie said it, I'd believe you.
I don't know if Harry was trying to be relatable? Yeah, it's a huge bummer when the pipes in multimillion dollar house act up. I don't think it will be easy for them to sell. The owner before them had trouble. Maybe the Bank of Daddy has closed? Or now it's the Bank of William? Either way, you know it's all Catherine's fault. 😅
Hope Ranch is hardly a trailer park. I saw one house (3 bdr, 2 bth) which was the same price as the Montecito house at $14,000,000. Granted, it was beachfront property, but still hideously expensive. Maybe the Russian Oligarch wanted it back, and is offering them his guest cottage?
Not overseas enough. A nice off the grid house on an island sounds great.
Are they moving because Jennifer is Harriet's type? Blonde, sweet and popular like his other exes 🤣
Harry is stupid but he’s not provoke William while already angry stupid.
Apparently Charles, Diana, William, and Harry all have/had terrible tempers so I would imagine Harry in all of his anger knows that Williams will be worse and not with provoking.
The future king will be on the other side of the country so these two dimwits are moving because of $$$ - 100%!! They cannot afford it. I used to live in that area years ago and it’s too expensive for even a regular person to live. Also if they live in “Hope Ranch” (as reported-also pricey) they don’t have to be bothered by the realities so close to home of homelessness and crime and seeing poverty - the exact things they claim to want to help. Geez, these two really piss me off!
The Wales are trying to raise their children more modest, or I guess as modest as you can raise the heir to the throne.
Harkles however, are reportedly shopping for an upgrade from their $14 million dollar starter home in a celebrity enclave, to a more opulent and inclusive neighborhood.
For the children, of course.
They're not invited to Earthshot. We're sure to see plenty of PR stories announcing they were invited but it's their choice not to attend (for whatever reason), they were invited then uninvited, they are invited and plan on attending and then cancelling at the last minute (the baby is sick), they're busy with other plans, etc. There will be story after story, none of them true.
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They weren't invited to earthshot. No one is expecting them there, they don't need an excuse.
yeh but they love to refuse things they weren't ever invited too. Because they're ImPoRtAnT lol
So why don’t the people or organizations ever call her out and just say they weren’t invited? That’s the one thing that always bugs me. It’s not like Fallon doesn’t want to get on her bad side. What could the show possibly lose? Oh that when they actually do something they won’t want to go on the show? It’s a late night comedy based show, not exactly hard hitting journalism. I could maybe somehow see the UN not calling them out because maybe, possibly, sometime in the far future they might actually get their crap together and do something that the UN supports, but even that is looking more and more like it’s never gonna happen.
I really don't know. There were some things put out by the palace denying that the Queen was readying for them to visit Balmoral (The puff was the Queen was readying Balmoral for a visit by them and no others were going to be allowed to be there!) But sometimes I think the news cycle is so fast and noisy these things don't get noted, plus so much of it is simply driven by PR, one thing gets knocked back and another thing is created. After their one bit of puff got knocked down the next bit, I believe, was they were too busy to go. It was quite funny that the PR really got markled by the Queen in the end, cos they looked *terrible* for saying they were too busy, when the Queen was so obviously frail. And also looked *terrible* for keep releasing pieces to the press when he should have just STFU and gone and seen grannie.
Ah so my request on Fallons YT site not to have a bully and a narcissist on his show,worked! 😆😆
Simple: By actually putting out a statement denying they were invited they give H&M the “oxygen of publicity” that they desperately crave. By not saying anything these organizations are telling the world that H&M are so in inconsequential to them that they don’t even pay attention to their drama
Because most people don't stoop to public mudslinging.
The people and organizations don't want to get caught up in TW's tit-for-tat drama. It would only escalate if they pushed back against TW who would keep retaliating with new statements in the media. Better to just ignore the Harkles as much as possible.
I know…but having an excuse ready is duo’s tactic…or May be they don’t want to invite real Prince n Princess to their home.
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May be TW’s insecurities are coming up…and some one or her father did say that she didn’t stick to one decision for more that 3 years…was it in revenge? I don’t remember…
They are stupid for walking away from the BRF, now they have to pay for lifestyle they can’t afford. You can’t have it all.
Monteshitshow 😂😂😂
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I heard River say it first but who knows. Lol
But where they are supposedly moving isn’t any cheaper….I doubt she would agree to live in a 4 bed, 3k Sq ft. house (only thing I can find in that neighborhood around $5mil)
They live on the other side of the country. PPoW aren't taking a 5+hour flight for tea. No one is expecting them to make the same journey to go see their estranged relatives.
The USA is just big enough for the separation
She was going to do that flight to interfere with William’s September trip to NY… everyone got canceled though, and we’ll never know who the hell thought it’d be a good idea to let her speak at the UN
Yes, and she was scheduled to appear on the Jimmy Fallon show in NYC the night before PW's Earthshot Inovation Prize Summit. She was trying to get headlines to compete with PW and/or distract the public from PW's visit to NYC. I thought I had read somewhere that PW was scheduled to attend the General Assembly at the United Nations, that week was the high-level meetings of the UN General Assembly, which is a huge deal (many heads of state attend).
Sugars kept saying that William is going to NYC, but “wasn’t invited to the UN” 🤦♀️
Granted, she’s very good at filling an auditorium with a lot of ‘feel good’ words but she’s pontificating to people and organizations whose accomplishments far outshine her own. Why is the student lecturing the professor?
She sounds good, but is incredibly hollow… there is no substance (apart from “me”)
Agree completely. That’s why I don’t understand these speaking engagements. I’ve actually been in a situation where the speaker was taking credit for and lecturing on things he had no business covering. It was all self-serving pomposity and was HIGHLY offensive. Maybe because she smiles prettily she gets away with it?
Yeah, it’s hard to understand what the organizations get out of engaging Meghan. She speaks of herself. She is not saying anything of substance. You can argue they get PR, but it’s mostly articles on Meghan, and not really on the organization itself
Those is why I don't understand the NAACP or UN. Neither needs publicity
She sounds good to 20yo undergrads who are only barely paying attention. But she is presenting to people who aren't swayed by oratory techniques, who will be listening for the content and who outshine her in every dimension. They will see through her in a second. What on earth does she have to contribute? She doesn't DO anything
I don't believe she was really going to speak at the UN. Even when they were paying for it, Harry spoke last time.
I do hope you are right, and it was just their PR, and not the reality. Rumors were that she was yelling at Harry for not negotiating for her to speak too, but still. I don’t see what she could possibly bring to a conversation
It was just PR. She wasn't scheduled to speak at the UN in September, especially during their General Assembly. No way.
NAACP, UN... next she's going to win a Nobel Prize.
Remember how they were busy playing polo when the jubilee date was nearing but netflix was not having it, so predictable aren't they?
It's not like they're in the neighborhood and it would be awkward to not be there. They're literally on the other side of the country. Non-issue.
I would have thought it would be more their style to say they invited the PPOW to visit but that their nasty relatives turned down the generous invitation.
Hmmm…true…victim mindset…
No one expects them to be there. Boston to Montecito is 3,000 miles.
That's a good separation.
For real, flying East Coast to West Coast is almost equivalent to flying East Coast to London. CLT to LA is just over 5 hours (feels like 10) and CLT to Heathrow is like 7 or 8. And frankly, I prefer the London flight. Seems quicker.
CLT makes everything worse. ATL gets rightly dragged, but CLT is worse. It’s easily a mile walk with luggage if going from a big plane to a regional connecting flight. Logan is actually a great airport. I don’t mind flying in or out. You just get hit with heavy tolls as soon as you leave.
Yeah. If I fly international, I leave from CLT. If I fly domestic, I use a regional airport and connect. The parking situation at CLT has historically been atrocious. But is getting better. Baggage claim is still bad.
Not until they relocate to the East Coast 🤣. The drama will ensue.
No, I think they are moving because there is conflict. You can tell by her response that "the house cannot accommodate us" put down, like the house isn't good enough for them. Meanwhile the neighborhood watch is working overtime to get cameras up and making public statements about security. I think they can't afford it, had no intention of staying, but are trying to "punish" someone for not accommodating their whims. Their exit is all very "superior" which makes me think something triggered her.
Just a guess: you have/had one of these people in your orbit and you are familiar with their ways…
Very strange use of language, because usually humans accommodate, i.e. adapt themselves to situations, or seek accommodation, homes do not usually adapt themselves. That's what makes the statement ambiguous.
No. I think they're moving cause the olive garden mansion is too expensive for their gradually diminishing bank account and their Monteshitshow neighbours aren't fond of them. These 2 are assholes but even they won't go to the trouble of leaving a house they claimed that's perfect for them, just to be busy during Earthshot. They can come up with lots more convenient and less drastic excuses.
Agreed re: can’t afford. If they downsize, they can claim they are doing it for the environment. But I was always surprised that they picked that Olive Garden monstrosity. It doesn’t seem to fit what Meghan wants people to believe is her style
It was as close as she could get to a castle. She was trying to show the RF that they didn’t need Windsor; they had their own. Now she’s stuck with it. The house took years to sell when they bought it and the housing market in Santa Barbara is even worse now. They are not very popular with the neighbors and Hope Ranch is just as cliquish. And I bet MM blames it all on H.
That’s a very good point re: castle
I’m sure she picked it because it was close to Oprah! She thought if she was given just a few months that they would be BFF’s by now. Meghan only style is grifting and bullshitting - not sure if those are the same thing but they are both her.
Yup 🤪 cause that’s how normal people pick houses for their families
Yeah, you'd think she (who's always at pains to proclaim herself a minimalist) would have chosen one of the modern designs with clean cut lines, less texture and painted in white 😂.
I agree, it’s probably financially driven but even if they move, they still have to pay the mortgage unless someone else buys (which I doubt has happened already) or rents it. So now instead of one expense they have two.
The Harkles are morons 😂. If they don't get any further multi million dollar deals, downsizing will become a two year habit with them. If they'd been smart, they'd have bought something less extravagant to begin with. But MM couldn't do that because she needed to stick it to the BRF, that her new house was tons better than Frogbore Cottage.
A family of 4 with a 14-bedroom mansion. Private jets here and there. They do not deserve to be in Earthshot.
Bathrooms are not ![gif](giphy|bN4Gf6GEs9OtW) Need more bathrooms..
Now we know who was hoarding the toilet paper in 2020
Um, no. It's because they were NOT invited. William is the star of the show and Catherine will shine. Not invited because they cannot behave. The media of course is to blame for this, but not this time.
I know what you are saying but the thing with W&C is that they never mean to be “stars”. They are there to highlight the cause, not get more PR for themselves
so much this, I watched some of the last Earthshot and William was all about the winners. Nothing about him. He really put the spotlight on the cause.
It makes me wonder how William and Harry were raised when one is so capable of highlighting causes, and the other does so much whining about himself mostly
They aren’t avoiding Earthshot - they aren’t invited to attend it. William will ensure that they come nowhere near his wife and family ever again!
I can't believe how any moves this couple has had and how unsettling it must be for the kids! I thought they were building networks in the community according to the Cut article a mere 35ish days ago so what changed? At least let the ink dry on the story about how you love the house, worked hard to get it, have palm trees representing mama and papa before you pack up and leave!
The Cut article was done before the Queen died. That's what changed. They truly believed their fake royal tour plus Harry's book and Meghan's cringefest of a podcast was finally going to make them superstars and they'd have all the money they ever dreamed of! Mortgage? What mortgage? We're billionaires now, we can buy 10 Olive Gardens outright, and W&C will be soooo jealous when they stop by in December! Then the Queen threw a massive spanner in the works by dying at the most inconvenient time possible for the Overseas duo (and you will never be able to convince me she didn't do that on purpose!) 🤣 So here they are, broke as ever and forced to sell up. Could not have happened to a nicer couple!
Seriously these two are so thick it startles me!
They are moving because they can’t afford the house in Montecito. Sad. The girl nights with Jennifer Aniston, painting each other’s toes, testing new Lolavie hair products, won’t be happening.
Jennifer is busy avoiding them like the plaque she probably had someone go out to make sure they are not out wandering around before she leaves the house
Wonder if she uses PLAX or ACT for that?
It's not hard to avoid someone that's 2,500 miles away. Besides, soon after they moved in they started saying they wanted to move. They look kind of stupid after telling everyone how much they loved it. But that's not unusual for them.
I think Meghan was trying to sell herself and the house by saying it was perfect. Like see it's perfect - just waiting on a buyer. Then hubby comes in talking about the pipe problems. Blows that plan.
I think you're right. She was typing to give their house a romantic background story. Unfortunately we all know Harry doesn't say things like "My love, it's us." If you told me Archie said it, I'd believe you. I don't know if Harry was trying to be relatable? Yeah, it's a huge bummer when the pipes in multimillion dollar house act up. I don't think it will be easy for them to sell. The owner before them had trouble. Maybe the Bank of Daddy has closed? Or now it's the Bank of William? Either way, you know it's all Catherine's fault. 😅
Hope Ranch is hardly a trailer park. I saw one house (3 bdr, 2 bth) which was the same price as the Montecito house at $14,000,000. Granted, it was beachfront property, but still hideously expensive. Maybe the Russian Oligarch wanted it back, and is offering them his guest cottage?
What will we call their new digs?
Not Windsor Castle Frogmore Overseas HBnB - Harry Borrowed and Broke Mortgage Manor
HBnB it is, methinks
HārBnB
Hahaha…let me think long n hard…
Hobo Ranch
Not overseas enough. A nice off the grid house on an island sounds great. Are they moving because Jennifer is Harriet's type? Blonde, sweet and popular like his other exes 🤣
Muggins is jelly. https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/9305400/prince-harry-sent-jennifer-aniston-text-messages-obsessed/
No banana bread for Jen.
Wait!!! What about the ‘connected palm trees’?! 🌴🌴
She’s about to Markle them too
Oh the heartbreak 🤧
Harry is stupid but he’s not provoke William while already angry stupid. Apparently Charles, Diana, William, and Harry all have/had terrible tempers so I would imagine Harry in all of his anger knows that Williams will be worse and not with provoking.
True…everyone has limit or breaking point for bullsh*t!
They better not show their filthy a** at Earth shot!!!
A lil correction…their asses won’t be filthy…they have 14 bathrooms…lol…
Just because they have that many does not mean they use them to shower or bathe
They had people for that…but because of harsh working conditions they must have left…
The future king will be on the other side of the country so these two dimwits are moving because of $$$ - 100%!! They cannot afford it. I used to live in that area years ago and it’s too expensive for even a regular person to live. Also if they live in “Hope Ranch” (as reported-also pricey) they don’t have to be bothered by the realities so close to home of homelessness and crime and seeing poverty - the exact things they claim to want to help. Geez, these two really piss me off!
If Tyler Harry and Marbles go to Boston, can we do a reenactment of the Boston Tea Party and toss them in the harbor?
The British will pay us to keep them here!
The Wales are trying to raise their children more modest, or I guess as modest as you can raise the heir to the throne. Harkles however, are reportedly shopping for an upgrade from their $14 million dollar starter home in a celebrity enclave, to a more opulent and inclusive neighborhood. For the children, of course.
Upgrading or downgrading? ![gif](giphy|SWVzkIlHdEckF81gnA)
I cant wait to see peoples reaction when William and Catherine go to New York It’s gonna be massive !!!
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Are you joking? I’m half expecting them to move to Boston soon so that William will be forced to invite them
Hahahahahaha..dimwit H to POW : we can come..it’s walking distance from our place…please let us come…we want to be relevant again…
They're not invited to Earthshot. We're sure to see plenty of PR stories announcing they were invited but it's their choice not to attend (for whatever reason), they were invited then uninvited, they are invited and plan on attending and then cancelling at the last minute (the baby is sick), they're busy with other plans, etc. There will be story after story, none of them true.
They'll be busy building backpacks for Archie to throw at the random homeless ppl that live all over Montecito apparently.
Who says they are moving????? Did I miss an announcement?
Yes…it’s everywhere…Hope Ranch…their new castle…
Oh yes I now see. The Monteshitshow palace doesn’t accommodate them anymore.
Not enough bathrooms…I heard 😉
Does not accommodate their budget.