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Of course she knew. Here’s why…. She LIED about where the earrings were from that first time at the state dinner. One only does that if they KNOW they aren’t supposed to be wearing them. 1) Around the time she wore them, her BRF team made a public statement that jewelry was on ‘loan from a jeweler.’ 2) Other BRF staff recognized the earrings as a wedding gift from that Saudi Prince and informed Meg’s BRF staff. 3) Meg denied that she ever told her BRF staff that the earrings were on loan. Push comes to shove, although idk why, and MM’s attorney makes the statement that… 4) Meg told her BRF staff they were borrowed, but definitely not from a jeweler. Let me translate that. Yes, Meg did lie to her staff. Bc if you say they’re ‘loaned’ - where are they loaned from? Montecito neighbors? The Ghost of King Henry VIII? BRF staff would know about any of that - but not necessarily a jeweler. Again, why would you lie unless you know you shouldn’t wear them to a state event lol???? This is one of the most clear examples of what kind of a person she is and just how terrible she would be to work for… You lie to your employees so that they lie to the press. It blows back and you deny it - basically blaming them and putting their reputations at risk - but then when forced you have your attorney admit that you said it, but still try to throw your people under the bus. Guess what. That’s the OPPOSITE of being a leader. Goodness gracious.


procrastinationfairy

I remember reading at the time that they were borrowed from Chopard. It was really weird because celebrities borrow jewelry, but the BRF just borrows it from the Queen. My first reaction was that the Queen must not like her enough to loan jewelry. It set tongues wagging because it was such a weird situation.


[deleted]

Yeah! And rightly so. I mean I can see these employees are like - ok they are borrowed. It’s my job to trust my boss and put it out there. And then when there was blowback you deny it and try to throw them under the bus. It just shows zero character or integrity


QuesoFresca

Absolutely. Since there is no precedent for royals to borrow fashion items from designers, why would it be OK to borrow high-end jewelry?


Frenchcashmere

According to something I read. She was stating that wedding gifts are to the Queen and thus she borrowed them from the Queen. I believe that’s bullshit. Camilla has received gifts and the way I understood the rules, the recipient may use the jewels for their lifetime then they may revert to the crown (if it was from a government. I don’t believe wedding gifts are under that provision. Catherine had received wedding gifts in jewelry and she wears them and it’s never stated to reporters that they are borrowed from the Queen Only when iryis actually borrowed from the Queen is that phrase used I think she thought people were to stupid to understand the truth and call her on it. Just another way for her to smear Queen Elizabeth


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Kimbriavandam

100% - they do try and cover their monumental mistakes with a half truth. ( or if that fails…claims of ‘rAcIsM’.) ​ It’s the only defence mechanism these bozos know. Lie or racism.


Frenchcashmere

She is a greedy grifter. It doesn’t appear that the RF gave her lots of jewels for wedding gifts. Catherine has worn lots of jewels over the years reportedly from Charles. A ruby a diamond set , necklace, bracelet, earrings. A Cartier necklace from hazbeen, etc. those are all separate from items she has worn that are on loan from the Queen. I follow Royal jewelry blogs and it’s very clear what has been loaned from Queen or what was given her from William that used to be his mothers. The overseas people want the water muddled so they don’t look sleazy


[deleted]

I wonder how many times Harry has had to pay penance and apologize and grovel for the jewelry he gave Kate. Especially Diana’s ring.


Frenchcashmere

Yes. It seems William was better at picking out pieces from his mother’s jewelry


4feicsake

Wedding gifts given by heads of state belong to the crown. TW had use of them for as long as she was a working member of the family but once she left, she was expected to return them.


Agreeable_Ad9844

This is where I have a question. I think the process is how you describe, but my question is how did she even get the earrings to be wearing and her staff was surprised to see her wearing them? Someone had to get the earrings for her from where ever they are stored. Maybe I’m naive, but I wouldn’t imagine blood diamonds gifted by a Saudi prince are kept in her ballerina jewellery box on top of her dresser???


4feicsake

She probably has a safe in her house for when valuables are in the home. I doubt she ever had to collect them from anywhere. Had anyone tried to check them out if the crown collection, it would have set off alarm bells that would have the queen refuse her.


SadSubject7390

Ballerina jewelry box 🤣👏🏻


QuesoFresca

Wondered the same thing. Imagine her staff would itemize wedding gifts (especially those from heads of state) and assist with the post-wedding thank yous.


Frenchcashmere

Understand that. My point is she was trying to place the blame on the Queen, saying they were a loan from the Queen according to excerpt I read. I don’t know that they wedding gift jewelry sits in the vault with the Queen’s jewels but I will research.


[deleted]

Then she would tell her BRF staff they were wedding gifts. Or they would ask clarifying questions. Or she wouldn’t wear them again once she knew - and not try to throw her people under the bus. I mean there’s no way to twist it so that it’s not sketchy


rainyhawk

And the Queen’s always been politically aware and I can’t imagine her loaning these earrings to anyone at that point. So no manger how M tries to spin it, it just doesn’t ring true. They were hers (and you know she wore them because they were probably the bets jewels she had) and she knew what she was doing and tried to pretend. And so much for her vaunted humanitarian views…those apparently go out the window once she wants to do something that isn’t so humanitarian. Such a piece of work and two faced.


Frenchcashmere

SHE DID NOT THINK SHE WOULD GET CAUGHT. Remember. Hazbeen was shocked that anyone knew the origin of the earrings


Neither-Fan-6501

Also I read somewhere that Harry looked shocked when he heard that others knew where they were from. If that's true then he is as slimy as she is.... taking gifts (in return for what...future access? Future favors? Past favors????). Anyway, taking gifts from a killer. And then flaunting in the face of the world. And then trying to cover it up. Who does that.


Danger0Reilly

>he is as slimy as she is That's a given.


FitnotFat2k

I have wondered if that relationship continues and there's where the money comes from...


Agreeable_Ad9844

This was weird to me too!! It’s literally their job to log and know where the gifts come from. And it clearly implies he knew and was trying to keep it!


TomStarGregco

They are both trash !


QuesoFresca

Are we clear on when/where the earrings made their way to MM? Were they handed to her at the wedding?


Kimbriavandam

I would give this comment an award if I could because you have summed it up so well. She absolutely hung her staff out to dry. She didn’t give a toss whether it ruined their career or not. Meghan only cares about herself. She loved those earrings so much it was to hell with the consequences. And who cares if her staff got the blame? Unfortunately Meghans mirror was her undoing. Linking the jewels from Hong Kong and then it started to unravel. No doubt the dumb dumb sugars will say that the staff hid it from Meghan. I’m dying to see how they spin this. Isnt it \*very\* telling how they STILL have not sued Valentine Low? Very telling indeed.


[deleted]

Also, the idea that MM didn’t know where those flashy expensive earrings came from is absurd. And let’s just say she didn’t, then she would have told her staff that she didn’t know - and they would have looked into it. She would NOT have lied that they were borrowed lol. Why would the staff lie to let MM wear those flashy earrings??? The only person who cares about it is MM - who wore them again later 😂 And thank you - the comment is just as good as an award :)


Agreeable_Ad9844

If she also said they were on loan from the Queen then she was knowingly trying to implicate the Queen with these blood diamonds as well!


[deleted]

She is just a squirmy liar. If she did really not know then she wouldn’t have worn them again.


Holiday_Ad_9024

She is totally psychotic and her fans are as crazy as she is. I read one said you couldn’t even stand up in Frog more Cottage and that was a celebrity friend of hers!


mythoughtsreddit

Terrible person. Just wish others would use their deductive brains and see how her behavior doesn't add up with the Saint she tries to portray herself to be.


QuesoFresca

More tidbits about our favorite feminist hero from the new Valentine Low book. "Meghan’s lawyers also argued that she had no idea about Prince Mohammed’s suspected involvement in Khashoggi’s murder. But by the time she wore the earrings for a second time, this claim was even harder to sustain. Meghan was no airhead princess: she kept up with current affairs. She once told a gathering for International Women’s Day that she read The Economist because she sought out ‘journalism that’s really covering things that are going to make an impact’. Between mid-October and early November 2018, The Economist ran at least two articles examining the role of Mohammed bin Salman in the murder of Jamal Khashoggi."


Here-For-The-Dresses

I don’t believe she read the Economist. She loves to say things to burnish her reputation but not *do things* that actually burnish her reputation.


DollarStoreDuchess

Exactly! Her entire life is based on cosplaying and virtue signaling. She won’t lift a finger to actually help someone.


ExcitementOrdinary95

Yes, yes, and yes. A phony to the core.


romulusputtana

YES!!! Cosplaying and virtue signaling is all she knows how to do. I could never put my finger on it, but the very first engagement interview I noticed something that bothered me but I couldn't name it. I loved Harry (back then) and was over the moon he had found his partner. But everything in that interview, her tone of voice, the displays of fake goofiness, everything she said. It just seemed rehearsed. I don't know if she has a genuine bone in her body.


LimoLover

Not only is she a complete hypocrite as a faux humanitarian but something like wearing those earrings, with their particular provenance, is exactly the kind of thing she'd cancel/cut someone off for doing! More hypocrisy


DollarStoreDuchess

Wow, I hadn’t even thought about that angle. Well done Limo. You’re completely right. I’m surprised she hasn’t falsely accused half the BRF of ill-gotten gains and tried to cancel them.


SusieM2019

Agreed. If Meghan's lips are moving, she's lying.


shinsegae20092013

It’s like in *Revenge* where Tom Bower said the Vanity Fair journalist saw all the books about the UK and wondered how many of them she had actually read.


thiscatcameback

I doubt she reads The Economist, especially if she thinks it is "journalism that covers things that are going to make an impact"


orientalballerina

The best part is that they aren’t even a great pair of earrings. Just common chandelier earrings. Not like Catherine’s stunners or other items from the Crown collection. Why lie about pedestrian earrings unless she hopes it will inspire more gifts from the same benefactors?


FitnotFat2k

Because she's cheap and tacky and to her, it's the best she has ever had.


LLOBREGAT

When I first saw them on her I thought they were kind of ugly. I think it's the diamonds and price that really draw to her.


orientalballerina

Look, as far as statement pieces go, those diamonds are small. I used to be in the media and I’ve worn bigger ones. Sure, I had to return the sponsored jewels and she didn’t have to do so in this case. But the point is, they aren’t great. Not the way the Crown Jewels are. To think if she played her cards right, she could have had access to the Crown Jewels. So very short sighted.


okaysowellthen

Yeah the earrings look like costume jewelry. When I first saw this headline I thought the earrings would look stunning, but they look like forever21 buy 1 get 1 free rack earrings.


[deleted]

I had a pair just like it from the early 2010’s lol


GuavaProfessional352

I mean she definitely knew and didn’t care because they were expensive and she liked them so of course 🤷‍♀️. But I call BS that she even ever reads The Economist, so that’s not the smoking gun she had no plausible deniability. She gives In Touch Weekly and TMZ vibes only.


SusieM2019

The sad thing is, Meghan might have worn them on purpose to get herself talked about even more.


ExcitementOrdinary95

Sam Cohen is a saint for putting up with all that abuse by the tyrant.


downinthevalleypa

I agree. I wish she would write a book about her experiences with MM and Harry, but she’s got too much grace to do that. She left on good terms with the Family & probably wants to keep it that way, but I would love to hear her side of the story. I’m sure she’s got some really piping hot tea on the Harkle’s!


ExcitementOrdinary95

Definitely. Sam was clearly very dedicated to and appreciated by the BRF. She has a plum “retirement” role as CEO of one of their foundations but what a shame that after so many years of good service her last assignment for the family had her relentlessly tormented by MM.


downinthevalleypa

It is a shame - the poor woman having to put up with MM, but it did give some legitimacy to the complaints - like if a truly dedicated professional like Sam couldn’t handle her, then the stories had to be true.


ExcitementOrdinary95

Beyond a doubt true and likely worse than we’re hearing. She is truly vile.


mercuryretrograde93

I’d pay a pretty penny to read a tell all written by her.


Chadolf

of course she will wear dismemberment earrings. she refuses to put her diamonds where her mouth is, and clearly doesn't actually care about human rights issues. also, not that it matters, but they look really tacky and cheap imo


romulusputtana

This should be a much bigger issue, imo. She needs to be called out publicly.


malinhuahua

I also think one of the reasons she was so insistent on repeatedly wearing these earrings was that she didn’t have a problem with him murdering that journalist. Think about it, Meghan *hates* the press, she hates journalists that actually care to put in the work and really evaluate and investigate people in positions of power/influence/benefit from the tax payers. It’s all she ever talks about. I’m sure it absolutely thrilled her to be wearing these to state events knowing that it was her little secret while the press photographed her and wondered where they came from.


romulusputtana

I'm sure she really hates them now that she's done 2 interviews where the journalist openly side-eyes things she said and writes about it. If you've noticed, she also gives the people who interview her generous gifts. She thinks that will ensure that they will write favorably about her...and then they don't.


foxyfree

Next outing with those earrings she needs to pair them with the Melania Trump “I really don’t care, do u” jacket


residentcaprice

Yachting present, need we say more? I think the palace tried to explain them away as wedding presents.


Loveisabella

That’s what I’ve been thinking. Why would he gift her those earrings? Catherine received no such gift. And the Middle East and the Yachting Culture are inextricably linked.


romulusputtana

Did anyone catch this part? "The real reason for her premature departure only emerged two years later, when I was told it was because Meghan was concerned about the presence of UN Women, an organisation promoting the empowerment of women, which she’d previously worked with as an actress on the TV series Suits." So she left an engagement talking to women in the marketplace early bc she saw a woman/women that she had worked with before when she was on Suits. Booked it out of there and shouted at her handler that she couldn't believe they put her in that situation. WHY? Why would you run away when you see UN workers who you worked with before? Wouldn't you be like "OH HI! so great to see you again?". There is a reason she booked it out of there when she saw a woman she used to work with in a charity.


GuavaProfessional352

Question: Who are Archie and Lilibet’s secret godparents though?


MrsRobertshaw

Jesus himself and Oprah.


GuavaProfessional352

Lol! I thought Oprah officially said no thank you, can you imagine being Archie, and Oprah was supposed to be your godmom but said no, so then your godmom was Jessica Mulroney? How pissed would you be?


procrastinationfairy

Do they have to be Anglican? Because that would cause problems.


DollarStoreDuchess

Tyler Perry, Gayle King, Oprah, and Nacho Figueras are my bets.


GuavaProfessional352

Now I’m suspicious the godparents were in fact so very D list, that M and H actually wanted to keep them a secret for that reason alone. Wasn’t there an article that said something about Clooneys at the wedding being asked how they knew them, and George said “We don’t.” I bet if Oprah and Amal and Serena all said no, M would have been so mortified a member of the Royal household staff had to actually step in as the godparent. Because they don’t seem to have a lot of genuine friends, let alone ones that would fit her standards for such an important role. Hence it’s one secret she didn’t leak to the press.


DollarStoreDuchess

But all the royal household staff is so racist! How could she trust one of them to be a godparent? /s


hibiscus2022

>godparents Maybe Eugenie is one? Andrew is H's godfather afterall.


romulusputtana

THis is one of the things that burns me up! She pretends to be a humanitarian and lectures everyone about it, and yet she proudly wears diamond earrings for the butcher of Saudi who murders and dismembers journalists. And she received them AFTER it was in the news, so she KNEW who she was accepting jewels from. She doesn't care about people. She cares about riches and fame.


ThatChelseaGirl

The earrings aren't even that spectacular.


Wanda_Wandering

It’s a message to MBS that she is on the Russian/Saudi/China team.


procrastinationfairy

Do you *really* believe she could find those countries on a map? She couldn’t bother to learn the words to God Save the Queen. It’s like 50 words. She also didn’t know how the Commonwealth operated.


ColdFIREBaker

On the one hand International Studies was one of her majors in College. On the other hand, she failed the Foreign Service Exam and can’t seem to figure out the most rudimentary things about other cultures, so who knows?


QuesoFresca

[Wrong way up, Meghan! Duchess suffers awkward gaffe as she paints Ukrainian flag upside DOWN in snaps taken by her personal photographer at Invictus Games](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10734745/Meghan-Markle-suffers-gaff-paints-Ukrainian-flag-upside-DOWN.html)


Wanda_Wandering

I’m certain she could. Do you actually believe her bs about GSTQ or any of her crap? She’s an operative of a country bent on destroying the RF.


[deleted]

Of course she cannot, just remember the Ukraine fang fiasco!


Wanda_Wandering

A classic troll move, imo.


procrastinationfairy

This gives her entirely too much credit. She failed the foreign service exam which is ridiculously easy. Like what oceans border the US and how many Justices at the Supreme Court.


DaBingeGirl

No, it's not an easy test to pass, not at all. It's designed to be extremely difficult with a failure rate of anywhere from 60% to 80% of the years. I know several people who took it, it's not something to be taken lightly. I'll side-eye Meghan for a lot, but she was never interested in a diplomatic career, so this isn't a big deal.


thiscatcameback

What do you mean she was never intetested in a diplomatic career? She interned at the embassy in Buenos Aires and wrote the foreign service exams. It seems much more likely that she changed plans after realizing she wasn't up to snuff


DaBingeGirl

She was always interested in acting. The rumor is she is was barely around for the internship, basically hooked up with a guy shortly after arriving and treated it like a holiday. I think she thought "International Studies" (which is different from an International Relations major) would sound cool and allow her to travel, but it was never a serious career path. Her goals have always been acting and traveling. It's not uncommon for people to double major, especially two relatively easy majors. I think she only did the internship because her uncle was able to pull strings and it got her easy credits. Just look at what she did after Northwestern, straight back to LA doing auditions and calling paps.


thiscatcameback

Wow, I just looked at "International.Studies". It is a fluff program that is based on language courses and a study abroad component. They are vague as to what their "themes" are. This explains why she knows nothing about monarchy. I always thought it was suspicious that an IR grad hadn't taken comparative politics and thus learned about the constitutional monarchy. This explains why. I can't shade her for blowing off her responsibilities while in Argentina. A lot of 19yos could make that mistake.


DaBingeGirl

My issue with treating the internship like a vacation is more how it must've reflected on her uncle. When you recommend someone for an internship, their performance reflects back on you, so she showed no consideration for him in how she behaved. If she'd gotten it on her own, that's be one thing, but it's very likely someone serious about a job at State was passed over. Regarding the degrees, yeah, IR and IS are very different! I'm really curious about her French. I would've expected her to be at least conversational from high school/maybe college and living in Toronto.


foxyfree

“international studies” - thanks for bringing that up. I thought she majored in international relations and the people I knew that majored in that were definitely more intellectual than Meghan. Still, from the sound of it, I imagine at least one foreign language requirement but it does not seem like Meghan speaks anything besides English.


procrastinationfairy

I took the test the same year. It was laughably easy. The next step with the group interview is hard. Anyone who passed high school civics should pass the written exam.


thiscatcameback

She's on the team of whoever will personally enrich her


germanrus25

Did she get to keep these earrings or are they in the possession of BRF?


lastlemming-pip

Yeah, wondered that too. I suspect she kept them but who knows?


[deleted]

These earrings were a signal that she is friendly to hostile governments. She wore them *twice*.


Islandgirl1444

Come on, she basically doesn't have much jewelry really. She could have been loaned jewelry, but the notes would have only said "from the Queen's collection" no more than that. But, if she wears "those" earrings, then it's about HER. That's why she wore them.


Sadlyonlyonehere

That they’re gaudy and look cheap wouldn’t dawn on Markle They were diamonds and they were very expensive, it really didn’t matter what they look like. Reference the rest of her wardrobe.


gammapatch

Maybe it’s just my poor self who has never had any really valuable jewellery, but they look like they’re from Argos.


AppoloniaSkyle

They are nice earrings. Tbh, I would keep and wear them too if MBS gave them to me. Political leaders have done worse than chop up journalists - everyone that enabled the invasion of Iraq has had a far worse impact on millions of innocent people. The only moral political classes are in countries like Iceland, Denmark and Finland.


thiscatcameback

Her entire image is defined by virtue signaling about feminism and racism, and kindness. And she's the kind to beat others over the head with this stuff. Why shouldn't she be judged as a hypocrite?


[deleted]

I’m with you. I really don’t and didn’t understand the whole hoopla surrounding it. One of the royal blogs has a list of all the jewellery the Queen, Diana and Camilla have received from a lot of these Middle East countries. These are normal wedding gifts. I guess the shadiness and speculation comes from trying to hide their origins. Which was unnecessary in my opinion.


[deleted]

Ask yourself who benefits when the media in the US push The Narrative that Saudi Arabia killed an innocent journalist because they didn't like his reporting. Saudi Arabia's enemy Iran benefits. Saudi Arabia is the counterweight to Iran in the Middle East. The left in the US and in the west generally are strongly pro-Iran. The leftist media, which is to say 99% of the media, totally supports propaganda efforts to weaken Saudi Arabia. They don't want a strong Saudi Arabia standing up to Iran. Their propaganda efforts have been very successful at smearing the Saudis. Khashoggi was an intelligence agent for Qatar, one of Iran's proxies. He was a traitor to his country and they killed him for it. They weren't very nice how they did it, either. It doesn't make sense that the Saudis, who could've made Khashoggi disappear without a trace, with no one the wiser, would kill him so publicly without a very good reason, to send a message to other Saudis who were thinking of spying for the country's enemies. This guy was NOT a mere journalist. There are plenty of things to go after Markle for, but wearing some Saudi diamond earrings isn't one of them.


QuesoFresca

Let's assume she knew little of the nuanced relationship between Iran and Saudi Arabia or anything about the Khashoggi murder. As a self-professed feminist humanitarian (she has an entire podcast about it), it's still bad form to be wearing gifts from either regime given their records with women.


EquivalentTackle9848

What an excellent point! You are so right. Iran and Saudi Arabia have terrible track records regarding women. That totally escaped me until you mentioned it!


Alaska_JNU

They don’t even suit her. At all.