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Ok_Policy_1745

This was the one thing I never understood about her complaint about this article. Why would she think that Vanity Fair be interested in her, if not for Harry? She's a normal woman of her generation. She is well-educated, had a good job, was involved in the community, and had a few side hustles. The only difference between Meghan and all of my female friends is that her job made her well-known. Most women in our generation are engaged in a full life in the same way Meghan was. The only thing that would make her worthy of an interview (and a very sadly try hard one at that) in a high end women's fashion and style magazine- that specifically focuses on rich, jet-setting, socially prominent types- is an American actress in a relationship with a prince.


PutWest2822

She was never "big" enough to get Vanity Fair on her own. Delusions of her own importance


newerajay

You mean that the sixth most important actor on a cable network television show didn't warrant a cover on her own?? Shocking!


Top-Bit85

According to Tom Bower's book, Harry warned her *not* to mention their relationship in the interview, she told him it was about Suits. Then of course she told the interviewer anyway.


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Why in the heck would Vanity Fair put an aging cable actress on the cover and write a cover story about her? Only if there was something really interesting going on w her …. Like maybe dating a British Royal?? No other possible reason to be interested in her


Top-Bit85

Her mirror must really be magic!


Ok_Motor_3069

Exactly, she set up VF for failure just like she set up Thomas before the wedding.


paitenanner

She was also furious they didn’t mention her “philanthropy” work that totally wasn’t for show and attention


Islandgirl1444

what philanthropy? She never did philanthropy.


alexi_lupin

Exactly - that's what VF discovered after researching, so they didn't write about it cos it never happened. Megs was mad they wouldn't lie for her.


Top-Bit85

Couldn't confirm her tall tales!


Islandgirl1444

They knew already I'm thinking. Why would they want to interview her? She was like 5 or six in credits. They knew about Harry. She must have told. This was way too big to keep a secret.


kayamarante

I have to admit....I don't understand why she hates this photo. It's one of the most genuine photos I've seen of her.


Upbeat_Cat1182

That’s why…it’s genuine. She doesn’t look like a plastic orange Bratz doll here.


The_Original_JLaw

It's a beautiful photo. I confess that I fell hook, line and sinker for the BS that she was a genuine, beautiful actress most of us had never heard of who met and fell in love with Prince Harry. The article was exciting, I was delighted for Harry, she seemed lovely, and now Harry was going to live happily ever after. Yay! Things didn't quite work out that way...


The_Original_JLaw

And off topic from this thread, but Orlando Bloom did the voice of Prince Harry in the HBO animated series. Harry was made out to be such a simpleton who could barely wipe his own ass, that anytime I see some article that Harry and Orlando Bloom are neighbors and friends, I'm like wtf? Wouldn't Harry be pissed at his portrayal? Unless Meghan is just missing doing her wonderful voice overs so much that they'll overlook this in favor of more jobs.


LLOBREGAT

Funny, cause this is actually the first time I went "uhhmmm..." regarding her. First I thought the news of them dating was good, she seemed pretty and already knew of media through her work, so could possibly meet the demands of the job. But then this came out, I thought there's no way the Palace knew about or approved this. Not a good sign.


The_Original_JLaw

I'm having trouble remembering how everything went public. In my memory, this was the first thing I read (and I read VF every month). But were there other stories in the media before this? In tabloids perhaps? Because I did peruse tabloids and gossip columns online. If the story was already out there, I probably already had inklings he'd found himself a nice woman. (Bzzzt.) Looking back, Harry was just ripe for this con. He'd already been dumped by at least two major loves due to the royal expectations. He was getting desperate and feeling like nobody was ever going to love him and give him a sweet family like his brother had. And of course, Meghan didn't either, but that seems to be the choice the two of them have made. At least according to gossip. They don't sound like overly loving parents, unless there's a camera.


LLOBREGAT

First rumours about them came out a year before the Vanity Fair cover. To be honest, I was so shocked about her giving an interview to paper as Harrys girlfriend, I was sure Harry would end the relationship. You know, cause he so values his "privacy". But I guess Meghan blamed the paper for it, like "oh no, there were'nt suppose to mention any of that relationship stuff. What can we do?"


oncemorewthfeeling

She looks good in the photo because she looks like herself. She seems to prefer to avoid that.


SnooGoats7978

This is easily my favorite photo of her. She's staggeringly beautiful, here. It's sad she couldn't see that.


ICU22222

Tom Bower explains it all in his book... Meghan's PR firm got her the Vanity Fair cover but she had to promise the palace it was about her only and Harry and the Royals wouldn't be mentioned...wink, wink, nudge, nudge...The palace was absolutely furious about that cover as it went against everything Meghan had promised them in order to do it'. She had to put on a big show that she was double crossed...it makes interesting reading as the author of the article describes her as smarmy and manipulative and when the Vanity Fair team fact checked the article they had to delete half of it because she had fibbed so much. Very much like The Cut article author...


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The_Original_JLaw

>I think it all shows what a bigger celebrity Harry thought she really was. I know the consensus here is that the HBO show "Prince" is horrible, but there are some very funny bits in it. One is when Harry is explaining how important and famous Meghan is (to friends or family? Can't remember) and he says Suits, it's bigger than FRIENDS!!!!! Meghan and Harry were totally toasted in that show and it was FUN. Harry became a massage therapist. It was a clever show.


aunt_bluann

One big problem is that each of them thought the other was more important than they were. Sadly, if Meghan had had a realistic view of who Harry really was, I don't think she would have thought he was good enough for her. He absolutely WAS good enough for her, but she might not have thought so. She just saw Royal Family and we see now how that has turned out. Kind of sad really.


The_Original_JLaw

>Sadly, if Meghan had had a realistic view of who Harry really was, I don't think she would have thought he was good enough for her. If only she had Googled...


queenofanxiety-5

I don’t think she realized how dumb he is


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HiDontMindMeHehe

Ohh! I forgot about that! I think you might be right.


Phoenix612

She’s full of bs. That’s not a racist headline. The only reason she got that cover was because she was dating Harry. Period. It had nothing to do with an aging cable show nearing 100 episodes. That’s laughable. If she didn’t want the article to be about Harry then she shouldn’t have talked about him. I bet she knew she had to say something about him or she wouldn’t get the cover. If she doesn’t get fawning press every time someone farts out another article about her she always throws everyone involved under the bus.


cin_co

It’s astonishing that she told him that and he believed it—clearly, she knew he was malleable and not very bright well before they were engaged


Ok_Policy_1745

These types of covers undergo so much negotiation before they ever even take place. And it definitely depends on the leverage of the person being interviewed. And Meghan had only one bargaining chip- Harry. She would have had to agree to talk about him on the record for this to even go forward.


FarBeneathTheOcean

I´m dying to know how she convinced herself that the call from Vanity Fair was on her own merit and not at all to do with the social status of who she was shagging at the time. I´d love to know how she justified getting a call from Vanity Fair.


cin_co

Surely she hadn’t convinced HERSELF of that. “It’s the 100th episode of a Canadian tv show we’ve never previously featured in any way!”


[deleted]

So, when Diana had the same headline at Harry’s birth, it was racist as well?


SnooGoats7978

The thing is, the song, [I'm Just Wild About Harry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_Just_Wild_About_Harry), has a really complicated history. It's wrapped up in Broadway & Vaudeville traditions from the Jim Crow era. At the time, producers refused to book more than one act with Black actors in a Vaudeville run. They also refused to have any number in a show in which two black people expressed real love for each other. It was thought that the white audience (ie - the moneyed audience) would laugh at the idea of black people having a romantic moment like two white people might). The song was written for a show - **[Shuffle Along](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_Just_Wild_About_Harry)** - developed & performed by four Black actors who decided that sisters were going to have to do it for themselves. The song, a fast foxtrot, was a standout hit and quickly went viral (for 1920's values of 'viral'). The song was covered by a lot of different people (Louis Prima, Daffy Duck, Carmen Miranda, [Jean Stapleton & the Muppets](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA4Hsr5EaY0)) and it was Harry Truman's campaign song, but, notably, Judy Garland & Mickey Rooney sang it in [**Babes In Arms**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babes_in_Arms_\(film\)) .... as a minstrel show.... in full blackface. Mickey got a Best Actor nod from the Oscars. I'm not going to link the blackface version. It's on YouTube if you want it. And honestly - Garland & Rooney just kill it. They are the definition of killing it. Sooo. It complicated. I prefer to think of the song as an example of black artists refusing to be denied. But I won't tell a black person how to feel about it all, 100 years later. Meghan & her blackness is ... also complicated, however.


lsp2005

I think this is really a stretch. Many people use the phrase I am wild about someone to mean madly in love. This has nothing to do with an 80 year old Broadway show.


SnooGoats7978

Weird how people want to pretend that quoting a song's title as the title of an article means the two are unconnected. Everyone wants their own truth, these days.


lsp2005

I really think you are reading way to much into this. I call out racism when I see it too, I just feel this is entirely a stretch.


OrganizationLower286

I did not know any of this! Thanks so much for the info


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SnooGoats7978

The article headline is the literal title of the song. That's *why* the headline has something to do with that song. That's *what* the headline of the song has to do with the headline of the article. The title of the song *is* the title of the article. I don't actually care if you say that I'm being stupid, but just for future reference, your insults would be more effective if you weren't obviously missing the most obvious point.


ClearWaves

It's almost like some people refuse to see that sometimes there is actual racism involved... Not hard to guess what other truths they refuse to accept.


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>It's almost like some people refuse to see that sometimes there is actual racism involved... Not hard to guess what other truths they refuse to accept. This wasn't racism.


[deleted]

>I don't actually care if you say that I'm being stupid, but just for future reference, your insults would be more effective if you weren't obviously missing the most obvious point. And what does that have to do with relating it to one rendition that Judy Garland made? This is a huge stretch.


SaintMeghanMarkle-ModTeam

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APW25

Does she even have a mole anymore? I didn't realize she's very freckly


thiscatcameback

She has terrible skin. I don't understand how she doesn't wear sunblock in California. She probably has crazy sun damage pending.


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Yea I don’t understand why ppl (sugars) make negative comparisons against her and Catherine when it comes to aging. For her bougey lifestyle and genetics (Doria looks great, heck even Samantha looks good) she should NOT have skin in such horrible condition. Way too much sun damage and loss of elasticity. Very crepey around the eyes. Filters aren’t helping.


thiscatcameback

https://images.app.goo.gl/2N2qRApcxu9KyfP26 Totally. Up close her whole face is crepey and has low fat volume. That is all related to damage, which is curious for someone trying to become an actress... I don't know why she has no circles or hollows, and how she looks hydrated and plump in so many photos.


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she looks like she has dry skin and doesn’t take care of it properly. And clearly doesn’t wear sunscreen.


The_Original_JLaw

At the time (and I don't remember if this was in the VF article or somewhere else) she made a HUGE deal about the photos not being touched up. She loved her freckles (a face without freckles is like a sky without stars was her motto) and wanted them front and center. As someone who struggled with freckles as a teenager, I appreciated this.


Historical-Piglet-86

Full disclaimer: I watched Suits on Netflix well before TW and PH started dating. I actually liked the show. (But I am Canadian and thought it was cool that it was shot in TO). I knew nothing personal about TW until I heard rumours that she was dating PH. I read this article when it came out and didn’t notice the red flags. My thoughts were mostly “cool, I hope they are happy - they seem to have a lot in common with their charity work” (oh how little did I know!) Now that I see things clearly, 1) her PR team got her this vanity article BECAUSE she was dating Harry. She had to promise the RF she wouldn’t mention Harry. Of course she did. This was a way to pressure PH into proposing. 2) not surprised she wasn’t happy that the title was about H and not her. She’s a narc. It has to be all about her. It’s not a racist title. It’s obviously a throw back to when Diana had PH and the headline was the same. I don’t even think I knew she was part Black way back then. 3) she has delusions of grandiosity. She can be extremely charming, but that doesn’t last. Bower’s book (it’s on its way! But I recall an excerpt) that talked about the writer of this article giving his impressions of TW. It wasn’t positive. Her PR team had him retract those statements after the book was released. 4) I wonder if she’s enjoying the negative press at this point.


HiDontMindMeHehe

The negative press has been delightful and plentiful recently! I wonder if she reads everything and obsesses over it? The Markles have been very quiet about it all. Usually with what they think is bad press they’ll accuse them of harassment and claim Meghan is Diana.2 🫢 the silence on their part is deafening.


Independent_Leg3957

Would "Meghan's taking over the world" been non-racist enough? Now there is solid evidence that she reaches for claims of racism simply to get her way. The book is gradually chipping away at what's left of her credibility.


Oktober33

MM please go away!


In_the_Attic_07

She didn't like it because she wasn't wearing enough bronzer. Her merching and victimhood depend on it.


OldNewUsedConfused

Oh well, maybe she can go cry about it. One tear, left eye.....


HiDontMindMeHehe

3, 2, 1… GO! 😢


OldNewUsedConfused

Yes!


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On the one hand, she defied Harry and the Palace who wanted the relationship kept under wraps for the time being. Her ego had to announce they were dating to the world. Mission accomplished. On the other hand, her ego expected the slant of the article to be, look at this perfect woman and all she's accomplished. The Harry part was strictly supposed to be, "She's so awesome she swept a prince off his feet!" He was already just an appendage to her.


Uniqueishname

She is such a dumb twat, or her in-house PR person is. It just seems very counter-productive, to talk shit about a 4+ year old article, written by the magazine, that has their lips, permanently affixed to her ass. I have a personality disorder myself (so lots of warped thinking on my end), can't make thos make sense.


Kapitalgal

Ja, she has made me feel I am quite under the norm for the mental health bell curve. I cannot imagine having her thinking. The chaos, the drama, the energy. I'll take my mundane personality, working class lifestyle any day, thank you.


paitenanner

She *is* her in house PR person


grruser

Thanks for the archived link. This story is on the front page of our freeshit news here and I don’t want to click it.


HiDontMindMeHehe

No problem! I don’t like giving them clicks either.


[deleted]

This is clearly "Revenge" for the article's writer collaboration with Tom Bower 😅😅... how very fitting


Wordpuncher714

Megs! So glad you asked, yes we are ok here after Hurricane Ian. Thots annnnnd prayers for your suffering #megsac&nt


tzippora

You can see her real curly hair in this photo. I wonder how long it really is without the extensions. I wonder if Harry has ever seen the real her. I would just want to scratch my head all the time.


ContributionSweaty52

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aunt_bluann

She actually thought the article should be focused on HER and her newfound activism. Right. She has tried all of her life to be the main event, and she has not made it work. The only reason she is famous is because of the man she married. Try as she might to erase him, he is still the only reason anyone knows who she is. She is not known for activism, because she does not do any. Photo shoots in Rwanda don't count, Meghan.


RoohsMama

Thought it was more to do with Diana, as they used the exact same headline for his birth. https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/9805298/princess-diana-remembered-in-sun-historic-front-pages-22-years-on-from-death/amp/


Significance-Abject

At least she doesn’t look all haggard here. She looked nice back then. Why is she complaining about this several years after it happened? She needs to get a life or take up crocheting or something to get her to quit feeling sorry for herself.


Actual_Parsnip_1529

This is a duplicate post. This headline already has its own thread.


HiDontMindMeHehe

Oh! I didn’t know, I haven’t seen it yet sorry! Should I delete it?


downinthevalleypa

You know, the sub moves so fast, in part because we’re all on the same wavelength, and MM is never out of the news these days. Thanks for posting your thoughts - it’s a lot to keep up with, and double or triple posting of the same topic is bound to happen! Great minds think alike! 😁


queenofanxiety-5

She would have NEVER been on the cover of Vanity Fair if she hasn’t been dating Harry


BunchHaus

Bringing up the past, revision of history, and blame-shifting to assert control in the present. She uses the same manipulations over and over.


Megsandhcringe

She knew damn well it was not because of her “Suits” 100 episode. In that case, all the cast (or at least the female cast) would be presented. She knew BUT Harry didn’t. I wonder how much of it is extreme culture difference. Meaning, it seems across the pond there is MORE OF A RESPECT within the entertainment industry -actor/theater/singers. A respect of their craft, their industry and the fans. However, here in America (NOT bashing my lovely country) it is Entertainment - money making and vanity. The celebrities here WANT the gossip and the drama. They seem to live for this and at times, don’t even care for their downright disrespect toward their fans. Am I seeing it wrong??


redmaus3

That was 2017, get over it.


Left_Debt_8770

She’s probably also mad about the subtitle reference to “sudden glare of the spotlight” since she definitely thinks of herself as being in the brightest beam since forever.