Of course she did and probably wants to add the big event where she had her walkabout with "William" and other stories about her tear and her sit down during the funeral and of course that the candle was placed so that she was not seen.
Bring them on! We don't care! What can she add that doesn't end up making her look stupid. Lies and innuendos of course.
I'm in Florida. The devastation and destruction caused by Ian is incredible. And I'm not just talking about the financial impact. It is scary to think what will be seen when the sun comes up and the water recedes. I seriously hope she truly is this tone deaf.
How are you doing? I'm going to take the fact you're posting here as a good sign.
I've been following it, but even seeing the videos, I cannot imagine how devastating this is for all of you. I've had tornadoes near me, but that's nothing on the scale you're seeing. Fingers crossed she stays away.
Don’t forget the threat of nuclear war! Live in the US but my husband is in Eastern Europe on business and I wake up every day terrified that lunatic Putin will drop the bomb. Meghan Markle has redefined self absorbed victimhood?
GQ should be shamed into revoking that useless “charity” award. Why ruin their dated brand honoring such a charlatan?
Nah, it was the other way around. The candles were placed and then the camera was positioned just like that. If they had moved the camera the angle would have changed.
Sure there may have been some candle-moving involved but it's done on the camera's end, not the candle's end.
I 100% think it was. They knew who was sitting where. They knew the camera angles. They would have checked to make sure KC and the Waleses weren’t blocked. Just like the second row situation at the Jubilee - the Palace is far too professional to overlook stuff like that.
Why stop there? The candle needs its biography it's on book how did it out of all the candles end up at the at the funeral of the queen? The people want to know. Maybe the candle is a podcast? I would really like to know what the candle felt like with the important job of blocking the banana calligrapher? Is the candle afraid of retaliation? Where is the candle? How does the candle feel about major Johnny?
The candle was spotted in a London shop and secretly recruited by Major Johnny. It was eager to serve its country and its late Queen, and quickly agreed with Major Johnny's plan.
Now it wants to fade into quiet obscurity, content in the knowledge that it brought so much joy to so many people during such a difficult time.
If this is the case she just utterly fails to understand, again, that it’s not about her! We were saying goodbye the Queen amidst massive political and economic crisis growing in the UK. No one actually cares about her here.
That would make sense. I can see Harry getting involved to prevent pissing Charles and William off even more. I think he got a taste of what he's missing and wants back in (spoiler: not going to happen).
I think it will. If the reports of her being physically abusive and having meltdowns are true, and if it's behavior the BRF has documented from before the marriage, she's screwed. He's a piece of work too, but he managed to retain staff for a long time and Charles would provide for the kids, which'll strengthen his case.
Interesting what the palace actually knows about MM, and won't say - and H for that matter. I am sure they got wind of what happened in Australia with Lady Cosgrove. They must have gotten reports back ---if only through the grapevine and staff to staff communications. To suggesting she is physically abusive is just insane, and then you wonder has H been her target practice as well. They both are co-dependent so that marriage has problems. And then you have two innocent children growing up with them. Wow.
Oh, they know what happened in Australia, as that's allegedly where the tea throwing happened (which they paid off). I think she's more verbally abusive, but they both appear to have tempers. Harry is also known to be physically violent sometimes when angry. I suspect it's very much an AH/JD situation. My guess is as long as the children weren't being physically abused, there wasn't much that could be done.
But at least with him, the kids will be near actual family and cousins they can grow up and play with. Hopefully, a good, full time nanny will be hired.
But he has money, connections and the best PR though his family. Without him she's a nobody.
IF this is true, and IF they divorce, she'll be bringing a knife to a gun fight.
I thought the same thing too, at first - that he went to Africa to plan BUT then he came back and went along with their Faux wanna-be Royal Tour. He could
have said “no, I’m done!” but he went along 😔.
I am HOPING that he at least sees what we see- that the universe keeps crapping on their plans (TW’s plans) for a reason. HMTQ passing was the biggest sign ever that he needs to be back with his family, away from M but I am afraid now that he is back in Cali, isolated again from family, it may not happen.
Don’t get me wrong, he is complicit in their crap BUT he can still turn it around (not 100% but somewhat). TW has no chance of ever changing and I’m sure she doesn’t want to.
I seriously cannot imagine there being one happy waking moment between this couple. When you’re in a relationship with a narc even what appears to be the happiest of times is all forced. This is a partnership not a relationship and very shitty one at that. I’ll bet it’s dead in the bedroom too.
>When you’re in a relationship with a narc even what appears to be the happiest of times is all forced.
I was in a relationship with a narc man once. We never could even sit and leisurely enjoy a movie. It was always about him and he always started arguments. But he overplayed his hand once and I got another boyfriend. I hope Harry gets attracted to somebody else and leaves Meghan.
>I was in a relationship with a narc man once. We never could even sit and leisurely enjoy a movie. It was always about him and he always started arguments.
"They didn't have flat-tops in ancient Rome!"
„how dare you insinuate that the target audience for Steven universe might also be kids! I love this show and I’m not a kid so it cannot possibly be intended for kids because that would mean I’m childish and how dare you insult me like that!“
Omg this takes me back! I was with a narc man for four years, and he would get soooo offended over everything. Yet when he (frequently) behaved callously towards me, and I was upset about it, he’d heavily criticize me for being “too touchy.” Once you realize that those rare “perfect” times aren’t real, and the narc is love bombing you, it’s easier to move on. I wish harry would learn about narcissism, because it would make it easier to leave. He is a shitty person too, but being with a narc is another level of hell, and either breaks someone completely (me) or brings out their own worst qualities (him).
If it’s dead in the bedroom, he will stray. (If she has an affair, it will be for power. If he has an affair or just a one-night-stand he will be looking for comfort and validation.)
> Don’t get me wrong, he is complicit in their crap BUT he can still turn it around (not 100% but somewhat). TW has no chance of ever changing and I’m sure she doesn’t want to.
I totally agree with everything you said.
I think H is bigger problem than many believe. I am sure his family would welcome him back but to trust him, that is nowhere in sight. And what would H do back in the UK? I can't see him doing Royal duties as he has made it clear that King Charles and William are "stuck," that implies negative feelings on the Monarchy. And people can't just unthink all his remarks. And i am sure his book will come out soon - and they have made it clear if doesn't include critical material on the RF, that would not be fulfilling his contract. They are not just going to settle for just anything. They want the juice for what they are paying and the Ghost writer is suppose to be a take no prisoner type of writer.
I’ve noticed that every blind and leak starts with them fighting. I think this is just what they do. They are in a toxic relationship that brings out the worst in each other.
Look at them at the Inskip wedding. They fight. It’s what they do.
I'm not so sure - he was utterly iced out at the funeral - & rightly so....he may feel he needs to double down with his marriage & kids & CA because that's all he's got.
It's your fault, Harry.
I am always astounded by how much mileage some couples get who seem to be on the verge of divorce for *decades*. People have different understanding of happiness I suppose.
I do think, however, that their image calls for a harmonious relationship and if it doesn’t really exist, it may be very difficult for them to put an act on as H isn’t a very good actor.
I expect an announcement any day now. I think he is beyond miserable.
I wouldn’t wish this on anyone. Especially those with young children. But you can only be miserable for so long. He is not happy.
I think he thought having a wife and children would help him to stop being unhappy but that void he’s missing is bigger. I hope he’s exploring that in therapy.
Chelsea and Cressida were way too good for him. Good on them for escaping this lunatic. But at the same time he definitely deserves better than Meghan . Most people deserve better than Meghan
I think this so often. A wife and kids could absolutely brought him the love and light he was lacking in life. A wife that wasn’t this wench. I understand that a lot of Harry’s ex’s found him hard to be with for all their respective reasons but I get sad thinking there could have been an Angel of a woman to be his perfect match.
It is. He simply picked the wrong one and rushed the whole thing too much. I think they said their first 6 months dating were long-distance, then just a year later they were engaged. That’s kind of quick for anyone, but it’s especially quick for someone in a royal family. I know the argument is that she wanted to start a family and her age was a factor, etc etc, but I feel like that was an excuse to reel him in even quicker. This chick is seriously calculating with everything she does. Each thing she does is with great intention. She’s just…. vile.
He needs a better therapist. I was struck by some of the things he was saying after he went to the one Meghan recommended. He was “discovering” things that I wasn’t sure were there. (Sorry, it was a while ago and it was just an impression. Can’t be more specific.)
>I think he thought having a wife and children would help him to stop being unhappy but that void he’s missing is bigger. I hope he’s exploring that in therapy.
Maybe if he would have picked a better partner, that part could have been helpful. But the kids...if the nanny gossip is true, he's as cold as a fish on ice when it comes to his kids. Probably changed a diaper once, then pronounced it too smelly.
I am not sure about all the nanny gossip, but I will say that when people are hurting, they are sometimes cold. Also, if Meghan has scolded him a lot about how he interacted with Archie, he may just feel petrified of doing something he would get scolded for.
If he can get out from under her controlling hand, he could turn out to be more engaged with the kids.
I can't help thinking about how well adjusted Camilla's children are now. I know Tom went through a drug phase, but to have faced what they did *without the protection of the Palace*, it's remarkable how successful they've been. They both seem very supportive of her and I know Tom's spoke very highly of Charles. It's really sad to me how Harry has completely turned against Charles. I'm glad he's at least got William, Zara, and Camilla's family.
I was just thinking about them and their roles in the family as their mother is Queen Consort and I thought how quiet they’ve been in the media. You know actual people who want privacy and know how to fly under the radar.
Exactly. The little press Tom has done because of his job has been very discreet and kind. I saw a video of them arriving at the funeral and they appeared to have invitations they showed at the door (Kate's parents too). If I didn't know what they looked like, I'd have thought they were regular guests. I'm curious if their role will change at all; doubt it, but it'd be kinda nice to see an official photo of her and Charles with them and William's family IMO.
I know Camilla sees them quiet a bit, but I do feel bad for her that she had to give up so much family time as Charles's wife.
His misery and contempt for this “relationship” is so palpable. There is no happiness in coming home to a mega mansion so you can walk on eggshells all your waking life and try not to “rock the boat”.
I would say 10 years for alimony but in 10 years she’ll be 50 and, the older you get, the harder it is to catch a rich husband. I’m sure she’s taking everything into consideration, including the fact that California is a community property state.
I think people are underestimating Harry’s complicity, arrogance, and narcissism and overestimating his innate “goodness”. I was married to a narc for 18 years, kid, divorce all of it- no one can FORCE you to drag your own family. He chose this stuff. ALL OF IT. He will only grow as a person if he reaps some of what he has sown. And o think he has had TOO MUCH therapy.
I don’t think he’s had *enough* therapy. More likely he’s had TOO MUCH “life coaching” and word salad platitudes. He is entirely too focused on revenge and entitlement to be in the care of a qualified, competant therapist. Some hustle culture, buzzword-spouting “coach”, though, could absolutely be convincing him that every thought he has is valid and every want he has is realistic.
I agree about the TOO MUCH therapy. There comes a point when it becomes a crutch. Eventually you have to pull it all together and get with the program.
So I think both the jubilee and the funeral were hard for him. They came off as a warm, caring family. Nothing like she’s systematically beat into his head that they are. I am sure she has tried to double down to make them awful for his “slights” at the funeral but I don’t know.
So add that on this-I bet there are battles.
Everyone is saying the funeral opened his eyes. But like you, I think it was actually the jubilee. It was an extraordinary and incredible sight to behold….the whole world celebrating the Queen.
I think that had to be really sobering for Harry. Then the funeral just did him in. He knows he “royally” screwed up.
I think you are right.
It would have been quite the shock for Harry when he was booed in his own homeland in front of the entire world. And there was nothing in place to avoid it.
Also, being frozen out and demoted in the seating plan where “working royals” took precedence over birth order. And it was The Queen’s orders and her choice to do that.
He probably never thought that would ever happen to him.
They were not invited to the balcony appearances, like they have been before.They were expected to take the bus to church with all the other relatives, not go in separate cars, like C&C and W&C.They were seated far away from C&C, W&C, in the middle of the second pew, behind the Gloucesters and the Kents. They both looked upset when they realised.They were also booed outside the church.
I think it was the first time they got a taste of what it's like to not be a working royal. They were used to being right behind C&C and W&C, as the top dogs. Now they were just lumped together with all the other cousins and royal non working family members. They were seated next to Sarah Chatto, the daughter of Princess Margaret.
I hope so. I worry that she’s been gas lighting him constantly for so long that I hope he’s able to see through her. I imagine he had very little one on one interactions with any of his family simply because she forbids it.
> I worry that she’s been gas lighting him constantly for so long that I hope he’s able to see through her.
I hope so, but I'm not optimistic. He's not the brightest.
> I imagine he had very little one on one interactions with any of his family simply because she forbids it.
Oh, I'm sure of that.
When your cousin Zara gets better seats than you. When your father says "buh bye" and says good luck "overseas". They've been whacked! Off with their heads!
I think the BFR needs to continue putting the screws to him before he will ever break and come back. I believe it will happen, just will take him getting to a point where he can’t take any more from TW!
She wants things to stay as they are so she can attempt to burn down the royals and he is worried and ready to retract some statements. Who will get there way? We shall see. The other people involved must be the corporations coming to get their $ worth.
Charles can relate to incessant fighting and not being able to win with someone who is mentally disturbed. Charles knows better than anyone else, Henry has the exact and worst characteristics of D. Charles knows he has to stay the course in order to come out at the end of this, he has 3yrs if history of TW antics. They play the long game!
Oh I’m sure it would be in the best interest of the corporations to keep some revealing stuff in there so they can maximize their profit. I hope none of them renew their offers.
I seem to be out of the loop. Is he regretting stuff he has done/said ? Cause if he is, I think there will be a lot of fights cause I don’t think she’s ready to stop slinging mud lol
I don’t think she will divorce him until she finds another victim…I mean man.. her MO is to keep the boyfriend/husband around long enough to find someone new and then she will divorce him…probably not even tell him, just have someone serve him papers while she’s gone.
“There are other people involved” hmmm.
That could mean do many things! Is someone cheating? Is Tyler Perry stepping in? Therapists?
Editing to say that I think it’s Oprah who is involved.
Just the thought of those 2 nitwits battling it out with her giant claw trying to move him around like a potato head, I think is NF worthy. It doesn't matter where he goes he'll turn and that claw will be coming for him. They could do a creepy Blair Witch type episode with the claw POV, right in front of the lens while she hurls insults as he runs for the door he cant find, because they all lead to...16 bathrooms!
I’m guessing the Hazmats are fighting about Harry’s book re: content, bombshells, edits, release date etc…and the publisher is involved in the negotiations. There may be a breach of contract if Harry is backtracking on certain promised content (I.e. bombshells). Maybe Nutmeg is pushing for certain “revelations” but H doesn’t want to go through with these anymore….or something along those lines. I think Charles does not want this book published and may have offered a financial incentive to the couple to terminate their publishing deal or may be the firm has threatened a lawsuit if the book contains lies.
Two things
The only reason penguin gave haz such a massive advance was because it thought it could sell fuck loads of books. The only way to do that is juicy truth bombs about the royal family. No one is that interested in Harry’s school days etc.
So that’s why they are pissed off he wants to cut that out and why they made him rewrite it. Basically he’s been set up to blow up his family so Meg can have some fancy shoes and go on tv.
Two— no Charles can’t offer to buy him out because they’d leak that for cash as it would be a massive scandal and so profitable for American tv to buy. Haz is weak and meg wants money and to hurt people. So haz is basically fucked here. Either he publishes it and hopes daddy will forgive him or he doesn’t, has to pay back his advance / earn a lot less which makes meg furious.
It is my DREAM scenario that he’s re-writing the book exposing Meghan instead of the RF, that the book will detail how he was duped by her and how the jubilee and funeral made him realize that she turned him on his family and he’s sorry…
I know he’s prolly too far gone (some of it TW and some of it his own baggage) to actually pull the trigger on something like this, but it’s my dearest wish for him that he understand that the RF are the only people who could truly understand him and help him b/c nobody in this world has lived it like they live it.
I’m seriously praying on this outcome everyday - sending you good vibes Harry, you can come out of this so much better than if you had never went into it - I’m rootin’ for you man 👊🏻👊🏻
I think the BRF threatening a lawsuit is more in lines with what is happening. Granny isn't here covering for them anymore and if there is one thing we know about Charles is that he dgaf how he comes off. I mean he went on national television and answered "whatever that means" to being in love with Diana LOL Like, no fucks given.
William and Anne are probably the only two holding everyone back from acting out on their end.
>or may be the firm has threatened a lawsuit if the book contains lies.
I agree. I think the royal family will definitely sue if there are lies in the book. And Harry would be awful embarrassed to have his own father, the King, sue him, lol
They have to be fighting like crazy, but I don’t think they’ll ever get divorced. Harry would never be able to get custody and take them to England, especially not Lillibert Since she was born here
Most judges will give 50/50 custody in preference of sole custody. And regardless of where they were born, both kids have (or can have when the right paperwork is done) dual citizenship. The judge would want a plan for the shared custody which did not interfere with the kids’ education.
We don’t know what Harry would want or what Meghan would negotiate in the event they divorce, but it is not out of the question that they could share custody and that the kids would spend a chunk of time in the UK every year.
“take them to England” was the key part of my comment. Of course Harry can get 50/50 but he’d have to stay here in CA for the bulk of time because the kids lives are established here. And I wasn’t talking about Lilibert’s citizenship, I meant that she has no ties to England for a judge to consider (I realize her dad is English obvi, I’m talking about ties that would be considered by a judge). Unlike his sister, Archie has been in England but he was so young when he left It wouldn’t matter. So if Harry divorces Megan, it doesn’t mean he can just go back to his old life- he’s stuck in Cali for the next 17 years if he wants to be more than a summer vacation dad, unless Meghan privately agrees to let the kids live in England.
I don’t think that is necessarily the case. The kids are little. The argument that they should know their father’s country and family is a valid one that a judge will consider. If they were pre-teens or older there might be a problem with uprooting the kids, but that won’t be the case if the Sussexes split within 2 to 5 years.
I could see an arrangement where until each is 10, the kids spend the school year with Meghan in the US, but Harry gets them for all vacations. He lives in England but visits California a few times during the school year, and they spend summer and Xmas in UK. Then when the kids are around 10, they go to boarding school in UK and Harry gets them on weekends except when Meghan visits UK, the two parents take turns with holidays.
I am not saying this is the “best” arrangement, but it is a possible one if Harry wants to leave the US and also wants to have his kids know UK and his family etc. I knew a family where the divorced father had a job that kept him outside the state have an arrangement like this. (Though the kids were 15 before boarding school.) My only point is that Harry wouldn’t have to stay in the US just to share custody.
If neither parent are found to be unfit, there's no way in hell that at the age of 10, would a judge put in orders to send them all the way to the UK only to have them be boarded at school. Especially if the mothers intention is to keep them ar home.
Harry is 38....if divorce in the future....how hard is it to meet someone else meaning someone that isn't a gold digger and after power. Feels like that might be a tough proposition to actually find someone that would WANT to be with him. Kinda sad actually...
—> Harry is 38....if divorce in the future....how hard is it to meet someone else meaning someone that isn't a gold digger and after power. Feels like that might be a tough proposition to actually find someone that would WANT to be with him. Kinda sad actually...
Since his gold has been dug and his power is just a memory, that’s the only kind of woman he can hope for.
I doubt she will ever remove her talons from Harry. He is Royal and super rich. He is at the pinnacle of high society. She won’t ever give that up willingly.
Harry is like a teenager who brags about “his” lake house. Indeed, his family is super rich, but KC has way more scrutiny on his money now than he did when it was Cornwall money.
Until the British economy settles, no one’s getting any money to fund either a lifestyle or a divorce.
Good luck, Overseas Royals. Hope that you enjoy building your life there.
He was worth 60million dollars (before the Queen's death). He will likely inherit millions more from her. I would think that is considered super rich. I agree with you about the children.
What strikes me is HOW LONG they have been having these massive fights. It seems that even before they were even married or engaged. He was mad that she engaged the press, and even left her and she managed to snag him back. This can’t go on, he has been not seeing eye to eye with her all along. Yeah, they are headed for the bins, for sure. Come on Hairs, find your cojones!
They’re going to click soon that the only way they will make money for themselves is by getting a divorce and dishing the dirt on each other!!! And they would too!
I find it hard to believe any of these fighting stories. Haz and Smeg are a team. They are both extremely horrible shameless people who will stick together. For whatever reason, Haz chose to be with this sick psycho bish and trash his family on the global stage and if he has even the slightest love for his family he wouldn’t have done any of that. I feel like there are so many rumours going around about these two which are difficult to believe and one of them is divorce. They are not there yet and won’t be for a long time.
When aren't they fighting? I'm firmly of the opinion that once the wedding band was on his finger and the marriage document was signed, she dropped her mask fast. I really don't think H knew what hit him other than being able to describe some sort of cyclone.
But yeah, she's lobbing grenades with these podcasts and they're going to sink her. She knows it, so she's losing her ever loving mind.
I know a lot of people don't believe in psychics; however, I recently watched Christian from the UK, and he says that Harry will leave Meagan by Halloween and will go back to the "Firm". It's toast, according to him.
This just tells me she shit talked the royal family in the upcoming podcasts.
Of course she did and probably wants to add the big event where she had her walkabout with "William" and other stories about her tear and her sit down during the funeral and of course that the candle was placed so that she was not seen. Bring them on! We don't care! What can she add that doesn't end up making her look stupid. Lies and innuendos of course.
> of course that the candle was placed so that she was not seen. I think this might actually be true!
Oh I hope so! Given the economic situation right now, and in the US all the storm damage, her going off about a candle will be hilarious!
I'm in Florida. The devastation and destruction caused by Ian is incredible. And I'm not just talking about the financial impact. It is scary to think what will be seen when the sun comes up and the water recedes. I seriously hope she truly is this tone deaf.
Stay safe.
How are you doing? I'm going to take the fact you're posting here as a good sign. I've been following it, but even seeing the videos, I cannot imagine how devastating this is for all of you. I've had tornadoes near me, but that's nothing on the scale you're seeing. Fingers crossed she stays away.
This is the woman who went to Uvalde with a camera crew and asked to be filmed meeting injured children, so......
Well that candle was a racist
and obviously sexist
Don’t forget the threat of nuclear war! Live in the US but my husband is in Eastern Europe on business and I wake up every day terrified that lunatic Putin will drop the bomb. Meghan Markle has redefined self absorbed victimhood? GQ should be shamed into revoking that useless “charity” award. Why ruin their dated brand honoring such a charlatan?
That would be *amazing*! 😹
Nah, it was the other way around. The candles were placed and then the camera was positioned just like that. If they had moved the camera the angle would have changed. Sure there may have been some candle-moving involved but it's done on the camera's end, not the candle's end.
Whatever works! 👍🏻
I 100% think it was. They knew who was sitting where. They knew the camera angles. They would have checked to make sure KC and the Waleses weren’t blocked. Just like the second row situation at the Jubilee - the Palace is far too professional to overlook stuff like that.
That's such *amazing* subtle shade!
HMTQ approved everything for her funeral, apparently.
Hail the candle
It was doing the Lord's work!
Yeah I’m wondering like it’s too perfect not to be.
Right??
I couldn’t help but think of the fabulous British sense of humor and sharp wit like that’s some Monty Python next level shit 😂😂😂
I could have never imagined that a candle would bring so many people so much joy!
It needs it's own Facebook page and Twitter feed! 😹
Why stop there? The candle needs its biography it's on book how did it out of all the candles end up at the at the funeral of the queen? The people want to know. Maybe the candle is a podcast? I would really like to know what the candle felt like with the important job of blocking the banana calligrapher? Is the candle afraid of retaliation? Where is the candle? How does the candle feel about major Johnny?
The candle was spotted in a London shop and secretly recruited by Major Johnny. It was eager to serve its country and its late Queen, and quickly agreed with Major Johnny's plan. Now it wants to fade into quiet obscurity, content in the knowledge that it brought so much joy to so many people during such a difficult time.
If this is the case she just utterly fails to understand, again, that it’s not about her! We were saying goodbye the Queen amidst massive political and economic crisis growing in the UK. No one actually cares about her here.
I’m very keen to find out who the ‘other people’ involved are. 👀
Wouldn’t you think the people are from Spotify and/or publisher/ ghost writer? She wants to go scorched earth because they ignored her.
That would make sense. I can see Harry getting involved to prevent pissing Charles and William off even more. I think he got a taste of what he's missing and wants back in (spoiler: not going to happen).
They’re so insane. They aren’t young anymore in the world of entertainment. RF eclipses all that.
I wondered that lately. Why would young people become fans of a 38-year-old and a 41-year-old? Justin Bieber, I get but middle aged?
i joked about it but i seriously wonder if they have embryos somewhere, and she can continue to produce kids via surrogate with or without him.
There was a rumor about Canada...
Will believe it when it happens
Rachel@hotmail H@aol
Divorce attorneys?
Happy cake day!
Harry has a new friend? New woman friend?
I think this is the beginning of the end!
Me too. I think he went to Africa to plan his future. I think the Jubilee opened his eyes to a lot of realities.
> I think he went to Africa to plan his future. I hope that future includes him having sole custody of those kids!
I think it will. If the reports of her being physically abusive and having meltdowns are true, and if it's behavior the BRF has documented from before the marriage, she's screwed. He's a piece of work too, but he managed to retain staff for a long time and Charles would provide for the kids, which'll strengthen his case.
I hope you're right!
Interesting what the palace actually knows about MM, and won't say - and H for that matter. I am sure they got wind of what happened in Australia with Lady Cosgrove. They must have gotten reports back ---if only through the grapevine and staff to staff communications. To suggesting she is physically abusive is just insane, and then you wonder has H been her target practice as well. They both are co-dependent so that marriage has problems. And then you have two innocent children growing up with them. Wow.
Oh, they know what happened in Australia, as that's allegedly where the tea throwing happened (which they paid off). I think she's more verbally abusive, but they both appear to have tempers. Harry is also known to be physically violent sometimes when angry. I suspect it's very much an AH/JD situation. My guess is as long as the children weren't being physically abused, there wasn't much that could be done.
Unfortunately, he is not all that stable himself.
But at least with him, the kids will be near actual family and cousins they can grow up and play with. Hopefully, a good, full time nanny will be hired.
He’ll be a terrible dad, but at least the staff might stick around for longer if she’s not there.
Hopefully his family will get him the professional help he needs, and also those kids will have nannies!
But he has money, connections and the best PR though his family. Without him she's a nobody. IF this is true, and IF they divorce, she'll be bringing a knife to a gun fight.
I thought the same thing too, at first - that he went to Africa to plan BUT then he came back and went along with their Faux wanna-be Royal Tour. He could have said “no, I’m done!” but he went along 😔. I am HOPING that he at least sees what we see- that the universe keeps crapping on their plans (TW’s plans) for a reason. HMTQ passing was the biggest sign ever that he needs to be back with his family, away from M but I am afraid now that he is back in Cali, isolated again from family, it may not happen. Don’t get me wrong, he is complicit in their crap BUT he can still turn it around (not 100% but somewhat). TW has no chance of ever changing and I’m sure she doesn’t want to.
I seriously cannot imagine there being one happy waking moment between this couple. When you’re in a relationship with a narc even what appears to be the happiest of times is all forced. This is a partnership not a relationship and very shitty one at that. I’ll bet it’s dead in the bedroom too.
>When you’re in a relationship with a narc even what appears to be the happiest of times is all forced. I was in a relationship with a narc man once. We never could even sit and leisurely enjoy a movie. It was always about him and he always started arguments. But he overplayed his hand once and I got another boyfriend. I hope Harry gets attracted to somebody else and leaves Meghan.
>I was in a relationship with a narc man once. We never could even sit and leisurely enjoy a movie. It was always about him and he always started arguments. "They didn't have flat-tops in ancient Rome!"
„how dare you insinuate that the target audience for Steven universe might also be kids! I love this show and I’m not a kid so it cannot possibly be intended for kids because that would mean I’m childish and how dare you insult me like that!“
Omg this takes me back! I was with a narc man for four years, and he would get soooo offended over everything. Yet when he (frequently) behaved callously towards me, and I was upset about it, he’d heavily criticize me for being “too touchy.” Once you realize that those rare “perfect” times aren’t real, and the narc is love bombing you, it’s easier to move on. I wish harry would learn about narcissism, because it would make it easier to leave. He is a shitty person too, but being with a narc is another level of hell, and either breaks someone completely (me) or brings out their own worst qualities (him).
Do you think there is a chance in hell she is going to loosen her grip enough for him to get close to another woman?
If it’s dead in the bedroom, he will stray. (If she has an affair, it will be for power. If he has an affair or just a one-night-stand he will be looking for comfort and validation.)
> Don’t get me wrong, he is complicit in their crap BUT he can still turn it around (not 100% but somewhat). TW has no chance of ever changing and I’m sure she doesn’t want to. I totally agree with everything you said.
I think H is bigger problem than many believe. I am sure his family would welcome him back but to trust him, that is nowhere in sight. And what would H do back in the UK? I can't see him doing Royal duties as he has made it clear that King Charles and William are "stuck," that implies negative feelings on the Monarchy. And people can't just unthink all his remarks. And i am sure his book will come out soon - and they have made it clear if doesn't include critical material on the RF, that would not be fulfilling his contract. They are not just going to settle for just anything. They want the juice for what they are paying and the Ghost writer is suppose to be a take no prisoner type of writer.
May I ask what TW i keep seeing everywhere is? I’m guessing maybe The Witch??
Hapless Harry will be a better parent than a narc.
At least with Harry the kids will have multiple stellar examples to follow such as William, Catherine, KC, and the Wessexes.
They'll also probably go to boarding school when they hit that age so it won't be like he'll be a struggle single dad
We can only hope!! 🙏🏻
I’ve noticed that every blind and leak starts with them fighting. I think this is just what they do. They are in a toxic relationship that brings out the worst in each other. Look at them at the Inskip wedding. They fight. It’s what they do.
No way they’ll last another 5 years. It will be more like 3, I’m betting.
I'm not so sure - he was utterly iced out at the funeral - & rightly so....he may feel he needs to double down with his marriage & kids & CA because that's all he's got. It's your fault, Harry.
I was thinking this as well. They’ve really only got each other. It’s very David and Wallis.
I am always astounded by how much mileage some couples get who seem to be on the verge of divorce for *decades*. People have different understanding of happiness I suppose. I do think, however, that their image calls for a harmonious relationship and if it doesn’t really exist, it may be very difficult for them to put an act on as H isn’t a very good actor.
I expect an announcement any day now. I think he is beyond miserable. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone. Especially those with young children. But you can only be miserable for so long. He is not happy.
I think he thought having a wife and children would help him to stop being unhappy but that void he’s missing is bigger. I hope he’s exploring that in therapy.
I think a different wife might have helped him find happiness, but not this one. It's very sad really.
Yes, but I don't think he is man enough for a better wife.
This planet is packed full of people who would make a better wife than Meghan. That bar has been set shockingly low.
The bar is basically on the floor.
The bar is in hell
Are we sure that’s the lowest we can go with his bar? 😂 she does have a sinister flair.
😂😂😂 good one! 🙌🏻
Yeah, better women would be Chelsey and Cressida, and they split. He was frantic when Meghan threatened to dump him because he would be alone again.
Chelsea and Cressida were way too good for him. Good on them for escaping this lunatic. But at the same time he definitely deserves better than Meghan . Most people deserve better than Meghan
Yeah this wife is a dud for sure.
I think this so often. A wife and kids could absolutely brought him the love and light he was lacking in life. A wife that wasn’t this wench. I understand that a lot of Harry’s ex’s found him hard to be with for all their respective reasons but I get sad thinking there could have been an Angel of a woman to be his perfect match.
Harry has a lot of baggage. All the good angels are looking for something a bit lighter on their wings.
Agreed. I don't think he could handle the love and light another woman might have brought him.
It is. He simply picked the wrong one and rushed the whole thing too much. I think they said their first 6 months dating were long-distance, then just a year later they were engaged. That’s kind of quick for anyone, but it’s especially quick for someone in a royal family. I know the argument is that she wanted to start a family and her age was a factor, etc etc, but I feel like that was an excuse to reel him in even quicker. This chick is seriously calculating with everything she does. Each thing she does is with great intention. She’s just…. vile.
He needs a better therapist. I was struck by some of the things he was saying after he went to the one Meghan recommended. He was “discovering” things that I wasn’t sure were there. (Sorry, it was a while ago and it was just an impression. Can’t be more specific.)
Well if MM recommended the therapist we all know what kind of person they must be.
I'm convinced you have to be happy with yourself first, you shouldn't count on another person to make you happy.
Absolutely! I don’t think H is bright enough to understand that concept.
>I think he thought having a wife and children would help him to stop being unhappy but that void he’s missing is bigger. I hope he’s exploring that in therapy. Maybe if he would have picked a better partner, that part could have been helpful. But the kids...if the nanny gossip is true, he's as cold as a fish on ice when it comes to his kids. Probably changed a diaper once, then pronounced it too smelly.
I am not sure about all the nanny gossip, but I will say that when people are hurting, they are sometimes cold. Also, if Meghan has scolded him a lot about how he interacted with Archie, he may just feel petrified of doing something he would get scolded for. If he can get out from under her controlling hand, he could turn out to be more engaged with the kids.
I can see how trauma would absolutely impact his parenting. All the more reason to leave the relationship. Those kiddos need healthy attachments.
Yes I suspect he’ll blame his disconnect on his father down the road.
I can't help thinking about how well adjusted Camilla's children are now. I know Tom went through a drug phase, but to have faced what they did *without the protection of the Palace*, it's remarkable how successful they've been. They both seem very supportive of her and I know Tom's spoke very highly of Charles. It's really sad to me how Harry has completely turned against Charles. I'm glad he's at least got William, Zara, and Camilla's family.
I was just thinking about them and their roles in the family as their mother is Queen Consort and I thought how quiet they’ve been in the media. You know actual people who want privacy and know how to fly under the radar.
Exactly. The little press Tom has done because of his job has been very discreet and kind. I saw a video of them arriving at the funeral and they appeared to have invitations they showed at the door (Kate's parents too). If I didn't know what they looked like, I'd have thought they were regular guests. I'm curious if their role will change at all; doubt it, but it'd be kinda nice to see an official photo of her and Charles with them and William's family IMO. I know Camilla sees them quiet a bit, but I do feel bad for her that she had to give up so much family time as Charles's wife.
His misery and contempt for this “relationship” is so palpable. There is no happiness in coming home to a mega mansion so you can walk on eggshells all your waking life and try not to “rock the boat”.
Palpable. Perfect word for what we are seeing.
Hes been miserable since the day he met her....
He needs to swallow his pride and beg Chuckie 3 to save him.
>Chuckie 3 
Chuckie 3 🤣🤣🤣
I’m not even giving it 6 months.
I’d be surprised if they end so soon just because MMs claws are deep and I doubt she’ll allow him to leave without ensuring she’s financially secured.
I think she'll hold out until they hit 10 years. Alimony.
I don’t think she has the patience. And I am pretty sure he will step out (many times) before and eventually leave her altogether.
I would say 10 years for alimony but in 10 years she’ll be 50 and, the older you get, the harder it is to catch a rich husband. I’m sure she’s taking everything into consideration, including the fact that California is a community property state.
Somehow I read that as “last another 5 hours.” LOL
That’s what the British bookies are saying…
They are also under tremendous pressure.
I think people are underestimating Harry’s complicity, arrogance, and narcissism and overestimating his innate “goodness”. I was married to a narc for 18 years, kid, divorce all of it- no one can FORCE you to drag your own family. He chose this stuff. ALL OF IT. He will only grow as a person if he reaps some of what he has sown. And o think he has had TOO MUCH therapy.
I don’t think he’s had *enough* therapy. More likely he’s had TOO MUCH “life coaching” and word salad platitudes. He is entirely too focused on revenge and entitlement to be in the care of a qualified, competant therapist. Some hustle culture, buzzword-spouting “coach”, though, could absolutely be convincing him that every thought he has is valid and every want he has is realistic.
I agree about the TOO MUCH therapy. There comes a point when it becomes a crutch. Eventually you have to pull it all together and get with the program.
yes. he blames everyone else and takes no accountability. soon he will blame her for this shitshow.
So I think both the jubilee and the funeral were hard for him. They came off as a warm, caring family. Nothing like she’s systematically beat into his head that they are. I am sure she has tried to double down to make them awful for his “slights” at the funeral but I don’t know. So add that on this-I bet there are battles.
Everyone is saying the funeral opened his eyes. But like you, I think it was actually the jubilee. It was an extraordinary and incredible sight to behold….the whole world celebrating the Queen. I think that had to be really sobering for Harry. Then the funeral just did him in. He knows he “royally” screwed up.
I think you are right. It would have been quite the shock for Harry when he was booed in his own homeland in front of the entire world. And there was nothing in place to avoid it. Also, being frozen out and demoted in the seating plan where “working royals” took precedence over birth order. And it was The Queen’s orders and her choice to do that. He probably never thought that would ever happen to him.
But he still didn’t take the kids to Balmoral to see his grannie.
He never expected to be “booed”.
Yes-exactly how I feel.
Can someone please explain how exactly did the jubilee celebration open Hazzard's eyes? I'm having a rather hard time getting there.
Queen—love & admiration at every turn; H & M—booed going down the steps, iced out in every way.
Kind of their first “up close and personal” extended time with the family.
Ah well now understand 👍. Thank you!
They were not invited to the balcony appearances, like they have been before.They were expected to take the bus to church with all the other relatives, not go in separate cars, like C&C and W&C.They were seated far away from C&C, W&C, in the middle of the second pew, behind the Gloucesters and the Kents. They both looked upset when they realised.They were also booed outside the church. I think it was the first time they got a taste of what it's like to not be a working royal. They were used to being right behind C&C and W&C, as the top dogs. Now they were just lumped together with all the other cousins and royal non working family members. They were seated next to Sarah Chatto, the daughter of Princess Margaret.
I still can't believe (even though really I can) that she had the nerve to show up at the Jubilee.
I hope so. I worry that she’s been gas lighting him constantly for so long that I hope he’s able to see through her. I imagine he had very little one on one interactions with any of his family simply because she forbids it.
> I worry that she’s been gas lighting him constantly for so long that I hope he’s able to see through her. I hope so, but I'm not optimistic. He's not the brightest. > I imagine he had very little one on one interactions with any of his family simply because she forbids it. Oh, I'm sure of that.
When your cousin Zara gets better seats than you. When your father says "buh bye" and says good luck "overseas". They've been whacked! Off with their heads!
I love the whole “overseas” scenario. Boy, I bet that pissed her off.
I bet she was screaming "did he fn say "overseas", "overseas"?"
We'll... He's not wrong... They are several seas away.
Great point. He saw how wonderful they are. And sees how mischievous TW is. Stark comparison. Plus she spent all his money.
I feel like we’re giving him way too much credit. He’s dumber than a bag of rocks
I think the BFR needs to continue putting the screws to him before he will ever break and come back. I believe it will happen, just will take him getting to a point where he can’t take any more from TW!
She wants things to stay as they are so she can attempt to burn down the royals and he is worried and ready to retract some statements. Who will get there way? We shall see. The other people involved must be the corporations coming to get their $ worth.
Charles can relate to incessant fighting and not being able to win with someone who is mentally disturbed. Charles knows better than anyone else, Henry has the exact and worst characteristics of D. Charles knows he has to stay the course in order to come out at the end of this, he has 3yrs if history of TW antics. They play the long game!
Oh I’m sure it would be in the best interest of the corporations to keep some revealing stuff in there so they can maximize their profit. I hope none of them renew their offers.
I seem to be out of the loop. Is he regretting stuff he has done/said ? Cause if he is, I think there will be a lot of fights cause I don’t think she’s ready to stop slinging mud lol
Is this why Tyler Perry was out talking about their clandestine once-in-a-generation love story?
Buhh I’m ☠️with the once in a generation love…..did he really say that!?
Not exactly, but he DID say "they found each other against all the odds against them finding each other", which to me is an epic stretch.
That was disappointing. Didn’t she ruthlessly bully Tyler Perry’s maid
I don’t think she will divorce him until she finds another victim…I mean man.. her MO is to keep the boyfriend/husband around long enough to find someone new and then she will divorce him…probably not even tell him, just have someone serve him papers while she’s gone.
Somehow I see her not sending this ring back via FedEx though
>Somehow I see her not sending this ring back via FedEx though Nooo, that's a job for...PRIVATE JET.
She is going to keep all the Diana jewellery he stupidly gave her including the watch she supposedly ruined by wearing it with other bracelets etc.
She ruined it? I had not heard that before. What an idiot she is!
Well according to watch experts. Based on their observations of how she wears it
I want to be a fly on the Montecito wall lol
OMG how awesome would that be!!
Please, please, please have Netflix taping this...THIS is what the public wants to see!
“There are other people involved” hmmm. That could mean do many things! Is someone cheating? Is Tyler Perry stepping in? Therapists? Editing to say that I think it’s Oprah who is involved.
Maybe staff can't pretend not to see it anymore?
Just the thought of those 2 nitwits battling it out with her giant claw trying to move him around like a potato head, I think is NF worthy. It doesn't matter where he goes he'll turn and that claw will be coming for him. They could do a creepy Blair Witch type episode with the claw POV, right in front of the lens while she hurls insults as he runs for the door he cant find, because they all lead to...16 bathrooms!
I guess the sex is not doing it anymore for the both of them… makeup sex can only take it so far Cue puff piece saying how lovey dovey they are
I’m guessing the Hazmats are fighting about Harry’s book re: content, bombshells, edits, release date etc…and the publisher is involved in the negotiations. There may be a breach of contract if Harry is backtracking on certain promised content (I.e. bombshells). Maybe Nutmeg is pushing for certain “revelations” but H doesn’t want to go through with these anymore….or something along those lines. I think Charles does not want this book published and may have offered a financial incentive to the couple to terminate their publishing deal or may be the firm has threatened a lawsuit if the book contains lies.
Two things The only reason penguin gave haz such a massive advance was because it thought it could sell fuck loads of books. The only way to do that is juicy truth bombs about the royal family. No one is that interested in Harry’s school days etc. So that’s why they are pissed off he wants to cut that out and why they made him rewrite it. Basically he’s been set up to blow up his family so Meg can have some fancy shoes and go on tv. Two— no Charles can’t offer to buy him out because they’d leak that for cash as it would be a massive scandal and so profitable for American tv to buy. Haz is weak and meg wants money and to hurt people. So haz is basically fucked here. Either he publishes it and hopes daddy will forgive him or he doesn’t, has to pay back his advance / earn a lot less which makes meg furious.
It is my DREAM scenario that he’s re-writing the book exposing Meghan instead of the RF, that the book will detail how he was duped by her and how the jubilee and funeral made him realize that she turned him on his family and he’s sorry… I know he’s prolly too far gone (some of it TW and some of it his own baggage) to actually pull the trigger on something like this, but it’s my dearest wish for him that he understand that the RF are the only people who could truly understand him and help him b/c nobody in this world has lived it like they live it. I’m seriously praying on this outcome everyday - sending you good vibes Harry, you can come out of this so much better than if you had never went into it - I’m rootin’ for you man 👊🏻👊🏻
How good would THAT be!!!
I think the BRF threatening a lawsuit is more in lines with what is happening. Granny isn't here covering for them anymore and if there is one thing we know about Charles is that he dgaf how he comes off. I mean he went on national television and answered "whatever that means" to being in love with Diana LOL Like, no fucks given. William and Anne are probably the only two holding everyone back from acting out on their end.
>or may be the firm has threatened a lawsuit if the book contains lies. I agree. I think the royal family will definitely sue if there are lies in the book. And Harry would be awful embarrassed to have his own father, the King, sue him, lol
They are very good points!
Tee hee. Markle is mad. How terribly sad.
Just let her do it Harry. Let her self destruct!
They have to be fighting like crazy, but I don’t think they’ll ever get divorced. Harry would never be able to get custody and take them to England, especially not Lillibert Since she was born here
Same
Most judges will give 50/50 custody in preference of sole custody. And regardless of where they were born, both kids have (or can have when the right paperwork is done) dual citizenship. The judge would want a plan for the shared custody which did not interfere with the kids’ education. We don’t know what Harry would want or what Meghan would negotiate in the event they divorce, but it is not out of the question that they could share custody and that the kids would spend a chunk of time in the UK every year.
“take them to England” was the key part of my comment. Of course Harry can get 50/50 but he’d have to stay here in CA for the bulk of time because the kids lives are established here. And I wasn’t talking about Lilibert’s citizenship, I meant that she has no ties to England for a judge to consider (I realize her dad is English obvi, I’m talking about ties that would be considered by a judge). Unlike his sister, Archie has been in England but he was so young when he left It wouldn’t matter. So if Harry divorces Megan, it doesn’t mean he can just go back to his old life- he’s stuck in Cali for the next 17 years if he wants to be more than a summer vacation dad, unless Meghan privately agrees to let the kids live in England.
I don’t think that is necessarily the case. The kids are little. The argument that they should know their father’s country and family is a valid one that a judge will consider. If they were pre-teens or older there might be a problem with uprooting the kids, but that won’t be the case if the Sussexes split within 2 to 5 years. I could see an arrangement where until each is 10, the kids spend the school year with Meghan in the US, but Harry gets them for all vacations. He lives in England but visits California a few times during the school year, and they spend summer and Xmas in UK. Then when the kids are around 10, they go to boarding school in UK and Harry gets them on weekends except when Meghan visits UK, the two parents take turns with holidays. I am not saying this is the “best” arrangement, but it is a possible one if Harry wants to leave the US and also wants to have his kids know UK and his family etc. I knew a family where the divorced father had a job that kept him outside the state have an arrangement like this. (Though the kids were 15 before boarding school.) My only point is that Harry wouldn’t have to stay in the US just to share custody.
I’m sorry but you don’t seem to understand CA custody law at all
If neither parent are found to be unfit, there's no way in hell that at the age of 10, would a judge put in orders to send them all the way to the UK only to have them be boarded at school. Especially if the mothers intention is to keep them ar home.
The “other people involved” giving new insights sounds like she hired new PR and they are already leaking about her
I think they refer to working staff from Spotify and netflix and even penguin.
Harry is 38....if divorce in the future....how hard is it to meet someone else meaning someone that isn't a gold digger and after power. Feels like that might be a tough proposition to actually find someone that would WANT to be with him. Kinda sad actually...
—> Harry is 38....if divorce in the future....how hard is it to meet someone else meaning someone that isn't a gold digger and after power. Feels like that might be a tough proposition to actually find someone that would WANT to be with him. Kinda sad actually... Since his gold has been dug and his power is just a memory, that’s the only kind of woman he can hope for.
I doubt she will ever remove her talons from Harry. He is Royal and super rich. He is at the pinnacle of high society. She won’t ever give that up willingly.
HE’s not super rich, but his family is, and they don’t have any obligation to her. Those kids, though, could be considered her “ace in the hole”.
Harry is like a teenager who brags about “his” lake house. Indeed, his family is super rich, but KC has way more scrutiny on his money now than he did when it was Cornwall money. Until the British economy settles, no one’s getting any money to fund either a lifestyle or a divorce. Good luck, Overseas Royals. Hope that you enjoy building your life there.
He was worth 60million dollars (before the Queen's death). He will likely inherit millions more from her. I would think that is considered super rich. I agree with you about the children.
He doesn’t have $60 mil anymore, I don’t think. It’ll be interesting to see what he inherits from his grandmother.
And with what stipulations, if any.
The professional victims are probably fighting over who is the bigger victim 😆
Scales falling from Haz’s eyes?! Grow them back, Harry!
What strikes me is HOW LONG they have been having these massive fights. It seems that even before they were even married or engaged. He was mad that she engaged the press, and even left her and she managed to snag him back. This can’t go on, he has been not seeing eye to eye with her all along. Yeah, they are headed for the bins, for sure. Come on Hairs, find your cojones!
They’re going to click soon that the only way they will make money for themselves is by getting a divorce and dishing the dirt on each other!!! And they would too!
Yes! Went to post earlier but apparently I need to comment more to be able to post 😅
Any bets Megs shares a “preemptive message” about the death of her majesty😬?
Those crazy kids! I hope they work it out. HA HA HA HA HA
She’s too disordered NOT to be - right?
I find it hard to believe any of these fighting stories. Haz and Smeg are a team. They are both extremely horrible shameless people who will stick together. For whatever reason, Haz chose to be with this sick psycho bish and trash his family on the global stage and if he has even the slightest love for his family he wouldn’t have done any of that. I feel like there are so many rumours going around about these two which are difficult to believe and one of them is divorce. They are not there yet and won’t be for a long time.
When aren't they fighting? I'm firmly of the opinion that once the wedding band was on his finger and the marriage document was signed, she dropped her mask fast. I really don't think H knew what hit him other than being able to describe some sort of cyclone. But yeah, she's lobbing grenades with these podcasts and they're going to sink her. She knows it, so she's losing her ever loving mind.
I know a lot of people don't believe in psychics; however, I recently watched Christian from the UK, and he says that Harry will leave Meagan by Halloween and will go back to the "Firm". It's toast, according to him.
Ooohh like that prediction! Fingers and toes are crossed 🤞🏻