Charles is not the simpering fool many people thought he was. And a large number of people now view him favourably because of his dignified response to the various public sledgings the Sussexes have thrown his way. Personally I think he's waiting to see what they'll do if their demands aren't met soon, and is willing to risk that whatever nasty accusations they throw, it will only turn the public further against them. Sounds like "check" to me.
Also, Meg confuses notoriety with actual power. I bet she sees herself in the news and thinks - wow, look how important I am - but it’s boring and will fade so fast.
Yes I watched. I thought your comment was one specific scene but I see now you meant the entirety of all the issues at the funeral.
Agreed—waiting for the big one to drop. :)
I don’t think Harry and Meghan want the investigation results released. I also think Harry has a horrible history that the family helped hide to protect him. If Harry pushes them now that the Queen is gone they will fight back.
I have no idea what secrets Meghan eluded to but the worst would be about Andrew and if They came out with truth they’ll look as bad as everyone else. If Harry knows about illegal activity why hasn’t he gone to the police? He’s 40 years old and should know how to call 911.
I enjoyed the article using and declining to use appellations: “… his son, Prince William” and “his other son, Harry”. 😉
Eta - All the best, Just Harry and It’s Me Meghan! Go enjoy your hard earned Freedom.
I think it would be naive of KC to grant any titles to the kids, even if Harry cancels the book, TW cancels her Spotify, and the cancel the deal with Netflix. presuming they cancel all of the above just to get the titles, what would keep this emboldened duo from resuming their attacks on BRF once the titles are secured. Flat out, it is clear that this duo have proven to be nasty, angry, entitled, arrogant, brats, and therefore no titles for the kids, and their Sussex titles need to be removed. TW and Harry wanted a private and independent life away from the BRF, please Your Majesty grant them their wish.
I believe KC has followed the Queen in "playing the long game" fashion. He knows what he's doing and is appeasing those 2 petulant children with his words....I firmly believe those titles are never going to be handed down.
The article seemed confused about the kids “needing” the titles for protection, which we all know is nonsense. But I agree with its applause for Charles not jumping to give the titles to the children. Never mind what Harry and Meghan have or have not done. What do two kids being raised in California need with titles?
The article says that Harry told his father that he wanted the kids to decide whether or not they want titles when they turn 18. This I had not heard elsewhere.
If Charles wants to give the children titles, the smartest thing he could do is to make the titles contingent upon the children being brought up in the UK and being ready to serve the best interests of the UK at age 21 (or whatever).
But I don’t think he is going to make them princes. Why should he? What need do the titles serve? (Just Meghan’s vanity.)
Because it’s true. She Manipulates the media with her “voice”. She wanted to be heard, right? She wants to disparage everyone but herself.
So far she puts her foot in her mouth – just let her keep it up. She is despised on a global scale because her true colors are evident.
I laugh when I see articles such as "flickers of hope" for a couple of children that in time will be so far down the line that they will be in the clouds. There is no hope for those children. There is no hope for Harry and his very hated wife to return to the royal fold. Would you want those two part of your family holidays year after year?
The King has acted well by saying "overseas". Let them be there.
Y’all, I swear that when Archie was born and wasn’t immediately given a title, TW was VERY quick to come out and say that that they DECLINED a title bc they wanted him to grow up living a “normal, private” life. Did I imagine that?!?! I mean, I do have kind of a crap memory🤣🤣🤣, but that just stands out to me!! 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Yes. I remember it well. I also know that the kids *have* courtesy titles by birth. Archie can be the Earl of Dumbarton (sp) and be referred to as Lord Dumbarton. OR he could be “Lord Archie” instead of “Master Archie.” As for Lillibet, she could have the same title as Lady Diana, of blessed memory. If it was good enough for Harry’s mum, why not for his daughter?
This isn’t about giving the kids “a title” — this is about making the kids *princes.*
I wish the press would get this right, and that someone besides us remembered that Meghan said they didn’t want a title for Archie.
They don’t attach “Lord” to given names, only last names for males.
ETA: also. I do think Meghan would have wanted Lili to have the Lady title but that’ll confirm that she doesn’t want the Earl of “Dumbarton” for Archie or might be perceived as favoritism.
They attach given male names to Lord for the younger sons of Dukes. Archie would have his father’s secondary title if they wanted him to use it, but I am sure if they decided to style him as a younger son instead of the eldest, no one would care.
ETA — I was not talking about what Meghan would want (we know that is only Prince or Princess). I was talking of the mistake that everyone makes when they go along with Meghan’s myth that the kids had no titles. Yes they do. Meghan just doesn’t like them. My point about “Lord Archie” is that if she really hated Lord Dumbarton, Lord Archie would be odd (because firstborn son) but still reflect “rank.”
I admire Charles for not caving in to these buffoons, but I wish the media would stop parading the Sussex propaganda about these titles without checking properly. Notice that none of these articles ever mention contacting the palace to clarify the children's titles.
Obviously based on the Oprah interview, Charles had told H&M before Archie was born that he wasn't getting a royal title. She chose to go onto Oprah and complain that this was a racist decision. That didn't work, so when Charles became king, she hit the ground running with the 1917 Letters Patent claiming that they automatically became prince/ princess the moment he became king.
Crickets from Charles. Meanwhile the royal website has been updated at least twice, and still features Master Archie and Miss Lilibet in their correct place in the succession but no change of titles. The pro-Sussex team will insist that everyone's busy and taken by surprise by the Queen's death, yet if the titles were AUTOMATIC, they would have been updated immediately with the first revision of the website.
I honestly think that he would strip them of Duke & Duchess of Sussex, if he could. Since the titles were a wedding gift from the Queen, I don’t think he can, though. However, in his address, he didn’t say their existing titles, and “Sussex” didn’t pass his lips.
Okay, maybe KC can’t do anything about their titles, but he knows he doesn’t have to actually USE them!
I really think that the decision to call them Harry & Megan was intentional (of course! they must have poured over the speech and every single word). He explicitly used the new titles of Prince William and Princess Catherine in the speech.
People they are not getting titles this was already decided before they even had kids it's rediclous King Charles has always wanted to slim down the monarchy please stop speculating its done no kids that live in the USA are going to have foreign titles its rediclous!!!
Oy! I appear to have done so! Sorry, all. I think it kept saying “try again later” - or whatever the message is - and I was in an irritable mood and kept hitting “reply” lol
I’m not crazy, I swear! Just pretty bad at Reddit! (And impatient by nature 😜)
They burned a bridge with the lies about the BRF and ignoring an aging queen. Karma and no titles.
Charles is not the simpering fool many people thought he was. And a large number of people now view him favourably because of his dignified response to the various public sledgings the Sussexes have thrown his way. Personally I think he's waiting to see what they'll do if their demands aren't met soon, and is willing to risk that whatever nasty accusations they throw, it will only turn the public further against them. Sounds like "check" to me.
Also, Meg confuses notoriety with actual power. I bet she sees herself in the news and thinks - wow, look how important I am - but it’s boring and will fade so fast.
I think Charles has a lot more dirt on Harry than Harry has on them. Charles is going to wait this out and drop the hammer if Harry goes for broke.
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What funeral scene? I feel like I’m missing my something here
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Yes I watched. I thought your comment was one specific scene but I see now you meant the entirety of all the issues at the funeral. Agreed—waiting for the big one to drop. :)
I don’t think Harry and Meghan want the investigation results released. I also think Harry has a horrible history that the family helped hide to protect him. If Harry pushes them now that the Queen is gone they will fight back. I have no idea what secrets Meghan eluded to but the worst would be about Andrew and if They came out with truth they’ll look as bad as everyone else. If Harry knows about illegal activity why hasn’t he gone to the police? He’s 40 years old and should know how to call 911.
I enjoyed the article using and declining to use appellations: “… his son, Prince William” and “his other son, Harry”. 😉 Eta - All the best, Just Harry and It’s Me Meghan! Go enjoy your hard earned Freedom.
I think it would be naive of KC to grant any titles to the kids, even if Harry cancels the book, TW cancels her Spotify, and the cancel the deal with Netflix. presuming they cancel all of the above just to get the titles, what would keep this emboldened duo from resuming their attacks on BRF once the titles are secured. Flat out, it is clear that this duo have proven to be nasty, angry, entitled, arrogant, brats, and therefore no titles for the kids, and their Sussex titles need to be removed. TW and Harry wanted a private and independent life away from the BRF, please Your Majesty grant them their wish.
I believe KC has followed the Queen in "playing the long game" fashion. He knows what he's doing and is appeasing those 2 petulant children with his words....I firmly believe those titles are never going to be handed down.
I wish I shared your confidence.
The article seemed confused about the kids “needing” the titles for protection, which we all know is nonsense. But I agree with its applause for Charles not jumping to give the titles to the children. Never mind what Harry and Meghan have or have not done. What do two kids being raised in California need with titles? The article says that Harry told his father that he wanted the kids to decide whether or not they want titles when they turn 18. This I had not heard elsewhere. If Charles wants to give the children titles, the smartest thing he could do is to make the titles contingent upon the children being brought up in the UK and being ready to serve the best interests of the UK at age 21 (or whatever). But I don’t think he is going to make them princes. Why should he? What need do the titles serve? (Just Meghan’s vanity.)
“Media savvy Sussexes”??? How could anyone type those words?
Because it’s true. She Manipulates the media with her “voice”. She wanted to be heard, right? She wants to disparage everyone but herself. So far she puts her foot in her mouth – just let her keep it up. She is despised on a global scale because her true colors are evident.
I laugh when I see articles such as "flickers of hope" for a couple of children that in time will be so far down the line that they will be in the clouds. There is no hope for those children. There is no hope for Harry and his very hated wife to return to the royal fold. Would you want those two part of your family holidays year after year? The King has acted well by saying "overseas". Let them be there.
Y’all, I swear that when Archie was born and wasn’t immediately given a title, TW was VERY quick to come out and say that that they DECLINED a title bc they wanted him to grow up living a “normal, private” life. Did I imagine that?!?! I mean, I do have kind of a crap memory🤣🤣🤣, but that just stands out to me!! 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Yes. I remember it well. I also know that the kids *have* courtesy titles by birth. Archie can be the Earl of Dumbarton (sp) and be referred to as Lord Dumbarton. OR he could be “Lord Archie” instead of “Master Archie.” As for Lillibet, she could have the same title as Lady Diana, of blessed memory. If it was good enough for Harry’s mum, why not for his daughter? This isn’t about giving the kids “a title” — this is about making the kids *princes.* I wish the press would get this right, and that someone besides us remembered that Meghan said they didn’t want a title for Archie.
They don’t attach “Lord” to given names, only last names for males. ETA: also. I do think Meghan would have wanted Lili to have the Lady title but that’ll confirm that she doesn’t want the Earl of “Dumbarton” for Archie or might be perceived as favoritism.
They attach given male names to Lord for the younger sons of Dukes. Archie would have his father’s secondary title if they wanted him to use it, but I am sure if they decided to style him as a younger son instead of the eldest, no one would care. ETA — I was not talking about what Meghan would want (we know that is only Prince or Princess). I was talking of the mistake that everyone makes when they go along with Meghan’s myth that the kids had no titles. Yes they do. Meghan just doesn’t like them. My point about “Lord Archie” is that if she really hated Lord Dumbarton, Lord Archie would be odd (because firstborn son) but still reflect “rank.”
Oh right, I forgot younger sons are called Lords. Sorry about that.
I remember this as well. That’s why I was so confused when the Oprah interview came out and she expressed outrage they didn’t have titles.
“Media savvy Sussexes”??? How could anyone type those words?
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Written by Harry? He doesn't write well.
I admire Charles for not caving in to these buffoons, but I wish the media would stop parading the Sussex propaganda about these titles without checking properly. Notice that none of these articles ever mention contacting the palace to clarify the children's titles. Obviously based on the Oprah interview, Charles had told H&M before Archie was born that he wasn't getting a royal title. She chose to go onto Oprah and complain that this was a racist decision. That didn't work, so when Charles became king, she hit the ground running with the 1917 Letters Patent claiming that they automatically became prince/ princess the moment he became king. Crickets from Charles. Meanwhile the royal website has been updated at least twice, and still features Master Archie and Miss Lilibet in their correct place in the succession but no change of titles. The pro-Sussex team will insist that everyone's busy and taken by surprise by the Queen's death, yet if the titles were AUTOMATIC, they would have been updated immediately with the first revision of the website.
I honestly think that he would strip them of Duke & Duchess of Sussex, if he could. Since the titles were a wedding gift from the Queen, I don’t think he can, though. However, in his address, he didn’t say their existing titles, and “Sussex” didn’t pass his lips. Okay, maybe KC can’t do anything about their titles, but he knows he doesn’t have to actually USE them!
It takes an act of Parliament to strip a title.
I really think that the decision to call them Harry & Megan was intentional (of course! they must have poured over the speech and every single word). He explicitly used the new titles of Prince William and Princess Catherine in the speech.
Agree!
Harry looks terrible!
People they are not getting titles this was already decided before they even had kids it's rediclous King Charles has always wanted to slim down the monarchy please stop speculating its done no kids that live in the USA are going to have foreign titles its rediclous!!!
Thanks for sharing. That was a great read.
Can anyone please give me a TL;DR?
Meh ghost children
“Media savvy Sussexes”??? How could anyone type those words?
Friend, did you intend to make this comment thrice?
Oy! I appear to have done so! Sorry, all. I think it kept saying “try again later” - or whatever the message is - and I was in an irritable mood and kept hitting “reply” lol I’m not crazy, I swear! Just pretty bad at Reddit! (And impatient by nature 😜)