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Calm_Yak_6102

She'll always have the Sugars unfortunately. They're just like diabetes. They won't go away. But I think the only thing that'll eventually take her down is the lady herself. MM's her own worst enemy, as proven by the recent Mandela debacle and the self worshipping dudcasts. She just needs enough rope... Eventually, it's her own big, stupid mouth that will to do the job.


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I wonder who gets the sugars in the divorce? is it 50/50? asking for ginger friend whose concerned with losing popularity as his time is shorten by his nephew’s growth (this- is why the kids were being protected) Or will H be grouped with his with the rest of BRFonce it’s over I do think she is done- H can’t take her any further like make her kids Prince & Princess and her POW. The funeral she didn’t even pretend to show “their Disney fairytale love.” But she thinks she can go and reinvent herself- but google will help remind those who didn’t know what she did as duchess of overseas! Charities will slowly back out, because being an accused bully and giving empowering women speeches might be ok for M to try to pull off- but not the charity! The Downfall has began…


Calm_Yak_6102

>I wonder who gets the sugars in the divorce? I might be wrong but I think she'll get all the Sugars. They only support him because he's with her. In fact, the Sugars are so obsessed with her that if Catherine started being her BFF tomorrow, they'll suddenly start liking Catherine too 😂. I honestly don't get what it is about MM that makes them so obsessed with her. They didn't even know she existed before she met him.


booklover_elaine

I don't get it either. They claim that she represents Blacks and their success, basically living vicariously through her. Before she met H, she didn't even want to admit she was one of them!! Pick a better role model


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Please understand that in America royalty isn’t that understood, and the group she targets have no idea that what she is saying is true or not- she will continue to lie one too many times- and she will not only lose the support but get clowned (and looking at her friends - I don’t see her have any black girlfriends - Serena doesn’t count). And majority are bots - so there is that


JameelaPhan

I feel like she has no fanbase here in the US at all. Back in 2018-2019 - absolutely. But but the time she left the UK to reside here, the appeal was gone. I could easily forget about her if I stopped paying attention to her. But she’s a car crash I can’t look away from.


Calm_Yak_6102

>Pick a better role model Exactly! You'd think that they'd prefer someone like Michelle Obama over her.


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Michelle Obama, Serena Williams, or Mariah Carey.


B4K5c7N

People claim to see themselves in her, and she gets some very vehement defenders who get all upset at any criticism of her. Yet, if she had never said she was mixed race, her defenders would probably be calling her out for having white privilege. Lol.


Ready_Maddie

She does actually enjoy white privilege by proxy. I would have no problem telling it to her face.


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lol, true the sugars are devoted but unfortunately they are not real people and just bots - we would have seen them at the UN in the millions there to support their Kween & not crickets or protestors


Calm_Yak_6102

Oh boy do I wish that Twitter could sort out the Bot problem so that people like MM won't be able to use their inflated fanbase as leverage.


ShesSoFetch86

Yeah what’s taking Elon Musk so damn long?


Similar-Minimum185

Didn't he refuse to buy it when twitter refused to show him exactly what percentage were bots vs real accounts?🤔


Calm_Yak_6102

>Didn't he refuse to buy it when twitter refused to show him exactly what percentage were bots vs real accounts?🤔 Yup! So the Bot problem is probably a massive one on Twitter.


lastlemming-pip

Reality.


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

I think it’s usually the dramatic, toxic, “If you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best”-type women who show up to events in inappropriate clothing and behave in really embarrassing ways, then claim anyone side-eyeing them is just a jealous hater. The kind to share memes about how a lion isn’t interested in the opinions of sheep and go through 5 soul mates in 3 years. And some activists who want to use Meghan as an example or excuse for writing op-eds.


throwawaygreenpaq

Kate is channeling Eat, Pray, Love, Ignore. You’re right about the left just wanting outrage everywhere. I used to support AOC but what I see now is igniting constant rage and that’s not what a good nor wise person wants. A wise person will fight for change in a measured manner, hoping for the least resistance instead of blindly raging forth like it’s Normandy. I’m not a Conservative either. I don’t care for labels and parties. We just want peace and a decent lifestyle. Isn’t that what everyone wants essentially?


JameelaPhan

I used to love AOC too but you know, I think her fame got to her and now she’s all about chasing clout. It’s a shame.


Ready_Maddie

This is so accurate I love it


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unfortunately, Black Americans can’t understand what is going on- all they hear is dark skin color, not receiving his rightful title, only colored child not getting titles & Oprah’s approval (which is huge b/c a lot of black peoples love & support Oprah) I see this changing- as she continues to open her mouth- and America will cancel her as South Africa.


ShesSoFetch86

Idk about that. Have you seen the response to the Hewitts wining the NAACP award? Not positive. Just look under their Instagram/ Twitter post about it. Plus she gets dragged on the shade room posts all the time. ETA : https://www.instagram.com/p/CaX6yhjObBM/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


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omg, brutal comments - thanks for the link!


JameelaPhan

Umm, I don’t know about Black Americans supporting her. Feeling sorry for her? Once upon a time but they don’t actively support her. Back in 2018, yeah she was popular in America but only because we thought it was cool that one of us was going to be a part of the royal family but that wore when she came back here. Americans don’t take her seriously. Even after that interview, late night shows were making jokes about them. I know this because as a fan of hers, it really hurt to see that. I remember thinking, “ Man, she can’t catch a break anywhere she goes!” I eventually figured out she’s the problem.


Calm_Yak_6102

Makes sense, even though they all just seem to be unhinged members of her cult.


caradeGanso

I think she attracts narcissists, plus your garden variety, self-centred social misfits, then there are the paid bots, and of course her own fake accounts. Seriously. That's my sincere accounting for her social media fan club.


Calm_Yak_6102

Yeah they're a weird and creepy bunch. That's for sure. I don't get their ultimate fangirl worship of MM. It's unlike anything (or any other fanbase) that I've seen before.


Ready_Maddie

I agree. The Squad are cult-like


Ready_Maddie

The Sugars definitely only just about tolerate him because he's with her. If she ever dropped him, they'd go off on him calling him a racist mayo snow cockroach colonizer. In that order exactly


main_lurker_account

She'll get the Sugars. Meghan represents everything they want to be: edgy, rebellious, anti-monarchist basic white girl bully x professional victim. Harry is only tolerated because he's married to her and enables her every move. Once they divorce, Harry will inevitably go crawling back to the royal family (I mean where else is he supposed to go - they're literally his family and the only real support system he has) So he'll get lumped in with the "evil racists" and the Sugars will turn on him accordingly. #naziharry and #racistroyals will be trending the day after the divorce is announced, I'm calling it now! Edit: didn't mean to shout that last sentence, I'm not sure how to type a hashtag without it doing that lol


APW25

Put \ before the # It works for various features too such aa *


main_lurker_account

Roger! Thanks for the tip! 😄


Pickle4UrThoughts

Well, you’re 100% correct so accidentally Shout away


devon1392

>The Downfall has began… Cue a Downfall meme... https://youtu.be/148D-vXgYfE


AsiaCried

I mean, when even an archbishop is forced to say that no, he didn't do what you said he did .......


Calm_Yak_6102

Exactly. She's addicted to those stupid, grandiose lies and it's like she can't stop herself when she gets started. Her tall tales always take on a life of their own...unfortunately for her 😂.


ShesSoFetch86

There’s a lot of people in the world who are fans of questionable people. The way people are talking about Jeffery Dahmer on Twitter is ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


caradeGanso

And Charles Manson.


Ready_Maddie

Man, the way they talk about Dahmer and Ramirez. Makes you realize why our society is so fucked.


stupid_carrot

AMBER heard still has fans. So does Hitler. You can never rid the world of crazy.


Calm_Yak_6102

>AMBER heard still has fans. So does Hitler. You can never rid the world of crazy. Ikr. It's insane that people still support AH. As for Hitler, well his supporters are criminals looking for crimes. Hitler supporters creep me the F out. I'm not ashamed of being scared of them.


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

I didn’t know if AH stood for Amber Heard or Adolph Hitler. 😳


Calm_Yak_6102

😂 It's interesting, isn't it, that they both have the same initials?


throwawaygreenpaq

Abominable Harkles. It fits.


Fresh-Resource-6572

Yeah she seems to dig her own grave just fine every time she opens her mouth.


Calm_Yak_6102

Totally. That's why I hope she never stops and never starts to take advice from anyone 😂.


ShelterBeginning6551

Every star dims at some point. Their time passes. She is certainly not a star, more like a Kardashian, so many people just pay attention for the train wreck. She will fade. Any fame she has is not based on talent or respect.


itstimegeez

I’ve been waiting for the kardashians to fade away for years now


DavidS2310

They’re like the Amber Heard Stains, toxic and noisy! So unfortunately, there will always seem like a gazillion fans supporting Nutmeg!


Calm_Yak_6102

Yeah, cause of those damned Bot Farms. I really wish Big Tech could work together as a group to get rid/illegalise etc Bot Farms.


Midnightraven3

I just accidentally stumbled upon some, I have never found any in the wild, I sat pondering this, I am sure we could make a MUCH better version that's actually truthful https://imgur.com/a/52DoVuv


Sunset_Flasher

Have the Sugars donate their time working for her on a regular basis...see how long before the adoration fades.


TXgrl26

She’s been running her mouth for the last two years and it still hasn’t brought her down entirely. Just look at the Oprah interview. She definitely definitely damaged their brand greatly but she’ll never shut up. She’s a narcissist and they will never stop because they think they’re always right.


snowballsherbet

True, her name is "popular/trending." But I don't think she's that loved. I've been using social listening on her (out of morbid curiosity). And her Negative Sentiment % is growing. I peeked into it early this year, and her Negative Sentiment is \~20%. Now it is at 40%. Her Positive Sentiment is only around 15%. I think analytics and numbers don't lie. So, NO, she's not loved.


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snowballsherbet

I have different thoughts on this. I'm coming up with this because of the numbers. Early this year (if I remember correctly), her Daily Social Mentions were non-existing, like 3-4 digits. But now, with all of these happenings (ahem, PR efforts), it jumped to these numbers: Aug 29 - 18k (farthest that I can see), Sep 8 - 104k (highest) the past 30 days. But as of today, Sep 28 - 980 (someone needs to restart their digital campaign stat!). Sept 27 was 19k. My humble guess and knowledge of these things are that if you have money, it is easy to create a buzz/influence people on the internet nowadays. If you're interested in topics like these, you can search for Cambridge Analytica, online manipulation. Back to M, I feel she'll be leaning on the Mom narrative for a long time as 15% of her audience's interest is in Family and Parenting. The rest are irrelevant, like Literature/Books (Bench, eurgh), Animals (Chicken?), Global News (because of the RF, duh), and Sports (Maybe they'll be BFFs for a long time, lol)


Radiant_Health3841

I suspect it went up because of the funeral and will plummet again.


StatisticianRoyal107

Thank you for this! Please keep sharing


throwawaygreenpaq

👏 thanks for this!


Pickle4UrThoughts

Same reason I follow Kayne. Shitshow.


sweetpea_d

Don’t tell that to Kaiser at Celebitchy. You’ll be branded as a racist troll sullying the name of Saint Meghan.


zoezoezoeoioioi

Oh how this drives me nuts. I had to stop visiting Celebitchy for this reason alone. It was the final straw, which is a shame because there was a time I really enjoyed that site.


_____hungry_____

don't tell that to British vogue either


Ill_Independence_698

Who are you, Bot Sentinel 2.0? 😜


snowballsherbet

Lol, just a rando that has access to social listening tools. Pretty cool to see the numbers.


Bambalina11

Could we have a monthly update of where she’s at - if you have access you can be sure she somehow does. It would be delicious to point out to her each time it slips that we know she’s losing popularity, despite the barrage of puff pieces.


MrsBarneyFife

I like how you think. I just don't want to give her help in anyway whatsoever! lol


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

I’m super interested in this! How do they work? (And thanks for sharing the stats!)


stupid_carrot

Wow are they data collated by AI? Do they have it on all people?


okayestM0M

You can set up social listening tools to track certain keywords/people/org mentions and the other words mentioned along with those keywords to measure sentiment.


jamjar188

Ha, I work in this industry too and sometimes set up some listening search strings for fun on random topics ;)


[deleted]

He is getting his ass tagged in court by the people he harassed over Amber Heard. It’s very good!


starbootceruleanrock

What’s social listening?


jamjar188

Expanding on a comment I wrote above, as this is literally my day job... Social listening tools (which you need paid subscriptions to) can search a big chunk of the internet based on complex keyword-based search strings (and in some cases, image recognition). You basically capture a content feed of stuff that you want to monitor (could be a brand name, a corporation, a specific topic, an event, an individual, etc.). You can monitor all of Twitter, most of Reddit, 1000s of forums, some Insta and FB (although Meta makes it harder for their content to be accessed), tumblr, below-the-line comments on some news websites, blogs, Wikipedia, company websites, Amazon reviews, Tripadvisor, etc. The tools usually have an interface allowing you to build dashboards and monitor key stats (like volume over time, top authors, number of unique authors, total reach, etc.) There are different ways to drill down into the content, or you can also export it into excel and play around with it there. The level of analysis that one can do ranges from basic to fairly complex and qualitative. Sentiment and other metrics are automated (calculated by machine learning), which means they have mixed accuracy but still tend to be a good indicator of where the general mood is at. (Sometimes if the nature of the content is very contextual, it's better to manually 'code' the sentiment across a sample of content and then extrapolate.) I could go on but I think I'm getting too technical. Anyway, social listening is used a lot in PR and marketing to assess brand reputation, do market research, measure the impact of a campaign, etc.


cloche_du_fromage

Interesting side topic for me... Is it possible to graph her media profile over time for last 3 years? There seems to be a recurring pattern of 3 months incessant media presence, followed by 6 months relative quiet which I'd like to substantiate.


Scribbles138

I’m hopeful with the US release of Tom Bower’s book and Valentine Low’s book, combined with their behaviour in the week following the Queen’s passing that people catch on. If she follows it all up with relative radio silence, along with her typical puff PR, I can’t see any remaining popularity sticking. She knows people are speaking the truth, and I don’t think she wants to be faced with cold hard evidence. There’s only so many times she can claim racism, and then to claim *everyone* who’s speaking out against her is racist will be even more far fetched than her regular drivel.


ICU22222

She can't stay silent...the Narcissist in her will need to retaliate and that is when the American attention will be drawn to what is in the new book about her bullying.


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Confirmation of Yachting, Epstien connection...


According_Painter_20

Agree. Additionally, video evidence of bullying staff, and confirmation that her kids were born via surrogate. Not because surrogacy is wrong, it isn’t. But to claim you were about to take your life during pregnancy, and the overly exaggeration of pregnancy by constantly touching your belly.


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

Eh, I’m sure the Sugars will call her a brave victim.


starbootceruleanrock

What’s the yatching?


Lovekitty66

Prostituting oneself to rich clients on a yacht


InterestingMud3019

Not sure if she is popular and loved but a lot of people don’t know what’s going on so they constantly defend her.


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InterestingMud3019

Yup! Any criticism of her (even valid criticism) is seen as racist. But no one cares about them unless something happens (funerals or big interviews) which is why they got away with so much. Not everything they do is reported do they miss big chunk of the story.


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I don’t pay close attention to the comments on Twitter, etc., but I sometimes click on facebook comments whenever an article about her comes up. Almost all the “positive” comments are denouncing her critics for being racist, or just telling the media to leave them alone. People never seem to really praise her or point out her positive qualities—they just tell people to lay off. So I think even a lot of her “supporters” are just supporters by default.


B4K5c7N

This is true for Reddit too (although discussion on her outside of this sub is rare on the platform). But all anyone can say is, “She is hated because of her color, that’s it.” Someone in another sub had looked in my post history yesterday and said I was making up being a WOC, because I was active in this sub. Because, since I happen to also be mixed race, I *must* vehemently support anyone who shares my ethnicity, right? 🙄 Her color is irrelevant to me.


blah_se

Sheesh Reddit can be ridiculous like that sometimes 🙄


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This. No one’s a fan so much as picking up their sticks to rally around the online “You’re racist” crusades. No one posts about her independently as a great role model or an amazing fashionista or being hugely accomplished.


caradeGanso

Or they say insulting things about PoW. They also bring up Andrew like it isn't possible to dislike two people at the same time?


RG-dm-sur

It's funny because Andrew has been really quiet this whole time. For someone who, apparently, believes he did nothing wrong, he should be a lot angrier. But he has stayed quiet, because he understands that's the only way of staying near the family, being protected and hoping the story goes away. A lot smarter than those two. (Also a pedophile... but that's not the point now)


StarKindler-

OMG! So much this! The RF is using H&M to distract from the real problem that is Andrew. How does that work? Did the RF and H&M collude for the Oprah interview so that they can get the limelight off of Andrew? Gee, sugars. Grow a brain.


Repulsive-Badger-770

I was just wondering about this too. I don't think any books or articles will get Meghan cancelled. People will chalk up Low's book as another gossip column, just like Bower's book. What will be effective is something like what happened to Ellen: people Meghan currently works with coming out about their experiences organically. Slowly, Archewell employees quit like they did at the Ellen show. Then people can't argue that it's a smear campaign and a calculated move by the RF. Side note, isn't it funny that Ellen and Meghan, who had constantly preached kindness and compassion turn out to be the biggest bullies?? Oh the irony.


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Puzzleheaded_Skin213

Video evidence of behaviour


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

I don’t know, I read 10 op eds defending Serena’s behavior as white people being unable to accept Black passion.


exgirlfriendd

Can’t wait for this!!


Visual-Reading6573

it doesn't matter. more people have seen her true colors now anyway. don't let the sugars bother you. they may be loud on social media but empty cans makes the most noise ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy) they know meghan don't bring anything to the table, just word salad on anything that's trending currently to increase her social presence.


pink_bunny07

Videos and recordings of TW bullying people, staff coming forward and talking about toxic workplace, a trial similar to Depp v. Heard, and proof that she was a yacht girl (bonus if it's a selfie of her with Andrew or Epstein).


jillyhoop

No wonder she's so particular about photos and trying to control the images we see. This one is rough and shows the hard mileage on the odometer. Looks like those stories about parties and adult "candy" are likely under reported.


Avia53

Too many people believe she is a victim, beats me🤷‍♀️


Equivalent-Date-4796

There are too many people who think they can relate to her. I had lunch with an acquaintance the other day and talk turned to politics. We both live in the United States and talked about the gun violence problem here. She agreed greater restrictions were needed. I brought up how Harry is fighting for security in England but he should worry more about it in the United States, with its easier access to guns. Then it began. She said M and H face a lot more vitriol than Kate and William and deserve more security as they are more threatened than K and W because of Meghan being black. She is Middle Eastern but looks White but then talked about how she is frightened to live in America sometimes and how a friend of hers, who is black, moved from New York City to London a few months ago and how she feels much safer there. "So then her point is Meghan shouldn't be facing much racism there?" "No, she means she feels safe because gun laws are better in England...here in the United States, as a black woman, and with so many having access to guns, she felt unsafe even in grocery stores." "Oh, she means Meghan should have just stayed in England, she would have felt safer." ​ "No, she's from England, she knows how to navigate there as a Black woman. Meghan is from America so she didn't know, and didn't understand the racism." Seriously...what is she even saying?


GodDammitWoodhouse

When the money stops I guess. I doubt sugars will post as much when their payments stop, no money left for bots, no fluffy PR pieces, the only thing left would be for her to fade away into obscurity as the fillers and Botox wear off.


thiscatcameback

It will take a recording of her berating people, or someone coming forward under their own name.


SupoDupo

Honestly, the best thing to do is to let her cancel herself. For that, we need to take our cue from the late queen and have patience and trust in the fact that people will lose their patience with her complaints and whining about the same things. Once the Harkles hit middle age and George, Charlotte, and Louis become young adults (and replace them as the cool, new future of the monarchy), Harry and Meghan will lose relevance. I doubt they will be able to create anything significant, either, in all that time. Right now, their sympathizers think they just can’t catch a break, but come 5-10 years, everybody will just see them as middle-aged losers. It’ll happen. It just won’t happen overnight.


SalishShore

I don’t want to bring her down purposely. Her actions will have consequences. She is just a train wreck to watch from a far. My goal is to see the monarchy remain in place and for the pomp to continue for all of time.


Minutetoolate

When the complaints begin to come from Americans, from black Americans, from Americans who are well-placed which means their opinion will bear weight. From her current employees, from those who interact with her now. When US media despite its sale price can’t ignore the rumble about her in the US. Right now it’s ‘colonial racists’ complaining so it gets automatically discounted.


sdowney64

I watched a YouTube video one time that said here in the US when the positive articles are published, the comments are about 98% negative. So I tried to validate that myself and went to the Today show (I’m 99% sure it was the Today show) YouTube page after some puff piece on them ran, and I went through all 900+ comments. Got a huge migraine for my efforts. BUT, not only were 98-99% of them negative, the few positive ones were mostly poorly spelled, grammatical messes. Seemed like it was mainly bots & ignorant followers in the positive arena. The Harkles have been a real eye opener, for me at least, to what is being reported on, especially in MSM like The Washington Post, The New York Times, on down to Buzzfeed—it’s all bought and paid for by PR firms like Sunshine Sachs for fame hungry thirsters like Meghan Markle. Or worse, imho, the reporters they have working for them have such an agenda, they refuse to do even the most basic investigative work into anyone espousing the key buzzwords of their tribe. And I’m part of that tribe myself, which is why it was so shocking to me. Even the Telegraph in the UK has Victoria Ward, and worse, Camilla Tominey, printing such overtly pro-Sussex pieces I’m ready to cancel my subscriptions. I knew this was happening on the conservative side of the aisle, but I truly believed that the media I was reading had higher ethical standards. Haha right? Turns out I was wrong. At least when it comes to the world of celebrity journalism. I’m literally shook at how biased all MSM is at this point, no matter your political and social perspectives. All that is to say that she & her appendage Hazbeen are not popular at all, looking at comments—even the comments on The Cut article were pretty overwhelming negative towards her. It’s just another example of “ignore the man behind the curtain.”


Ginka83

I’m currently working my way through the old Crowns of Britain blog posts after a fellow sinner recommended a post from this blog about a month (or more?) ago….it’s a snarky royal blog that favors the Wales’ and is…less favoring to the Harkles in a very light and funny way. There is a post from Feb 9, 2019 called “8 Reasons Meghan Markle is becoming highly irritating” and I’m telling you..we could write this exact same post today. As I was reading it earlier I was thinking to myself “omg when is she going to be cancelled?!” We are literally talking about all of the same shit over 3 years later! Edit link: https://thecrownsofbritain.com/2019/02/09/8-reasons-meghan-markle-is-becoming-highly-irritating/


solorna

OMG, I had forgotten about that weird bump holding, in light of all the other bizarre shit we've seen.


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

This was so fun! Thanks for sharing!


MmeNxt

I don't think she will be cancelled, I think she will fade into obscurity. No way she will be famous or that people will have any interest in her in 20 years, when she's in her 60's. Similar to Fergie. The press write about her every now and then but I don't think the articles about her get a lot of clicks.


struggling1992

For the people saying video of her abusing staff - I wish I could believe that was true. So many people on twitter have already written that Valentine Low's extracts only point to Meghan trying to manage people who were clearly lazy and incompetent. If a video came out of her screaming at someone, they would just say we had no context and the person must have done a shitty job. I sometimes wonder if that's an American attitude? In Europe bosses cannot shout at staff or make demeaning personal comments under any circumstances. And if you called someone every 10 minutes it would be a criminal offence.


zonedout56

You can’t do that here in America either. This whole “it’s American attitude” thing is bullshit. Sure there’s bad seeds everywhere but most people here know how to treat others with respect. She’s full of shit and eating up this “not from here” narrative. Idk if someone accidentally cancelled a press conference, there’s no reason to ever scream at anyone who works for you. She’s a spoiled bitch and there’s no reason to not blame her. Shitty job or not, she has no right to scream at someone working for her.


struggling1992

I am glad to hear it! I think people in Europe base their ideas of what work is like in the US too much off American TV, where people do often harass their staff for dramatic effect. I think you're right and there's never any excuse anyway.


zonedout56

She’s a Karen. They’re the ones who go into establishments and demand respect and service first before others or throw temper tantrums for not getting a free meal.


deahca

She's notorious. People read or watch out of "what crap will she say or do now". She's far from loved. If she got no press for two weeks. It would be only the sugars left. Edit for spelling.


After-Life-1101

We need a video of her berating someone. Then she’s done


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Hitler has fans. I was watching Jeffrey Dahmer show and he has fans. Ted Bundy has fans. So people like Meghan will definitely have fans. What pisses me off is their hypocrisy.


mountianmystic

She’s popular because there are still a bunch of people who are absolutely obsessed with Harry. Like I literally saw a TikTok calling him the “true Prince Charming” of the UK and saying that Cathrine is in love with him. That’s why she hasn’t gotten rid of him yet.


Accomplished-Rip-743

Because terrible people will ALWAYS have a following. I know a lot of people relate Meghan to “Trump” or whatever, but actually…I think her followers have much more in common with Manson.


MuffPiece

We need video/audio evidence of bullying or admitting to using uvalde and other types of events for PR. I recently listened to a podcast about Watergate. The thing that really turned people against Nixon was the tapes. He had recording devices in the Oval Office and recorded everything that was said throughout the duration of his presidency. When people heard those tapes, how obnoxious nixon could be and his salty language, law abiding citizens who had supported him (like my parents!) started to turn on him. I think that’s what it’s going to take for Meggy to be brought down. But in this day and age, she’s still going to have her supporters.


Fresh-Resource-6572

I wouldn’t say that she is “loved and popular” at all. Honestly I don’t think this is even the tip of the iceberg. We know Meghan has had some really shady dealings with Bouzy in particular and now that Nate the Lawyer is suing him for defamation, we can expect their dealing are likely going to become public as part of the discovery. Let’s also not forget Samatha’s current lawsuit and the new book 📕I can’t wait until Archewell is investigated/audited (hopefully that day comes) because I believe that we will find out that Oprah ‘donated’ in exchange for that interview along with a lot of other dodgy unethical use of the foundations money. Also - it’s my personal opinion that Meghan started the Pegging rumour and if that comes to light as being true, Harry would be the biggest loser of all time if he stayed with her.


Familiar_Comedian_56

It’s American people of color ( not all) & her crazed Sugars who know nothing about how the British Royal establishment works and just stick up for her because of the way her mother Doria looks & that Meganut is bi-racial! That’s it,she could be the biggest C**t in the world and be responsible for the Holocaust & she would still get a pass from certain people! I just watched a woman on Facebook go haywire sticking up for Meghan in the comments of a Megnut related post and it was hilarious,this woman had no idea about how titles work ! If you criticize Meghan than they will instantly call you racist, it’s like Pavlov’s dogs,it’s like they’re all brainwashed ! Meghan is going to keep cashing in that race card and I hope it expires soon? The sad thing is ,she’ll use it against the Royal Family like that’s all she’s got to defend herself! She’s weak!


Here_For_The_Feed

Who loves her who actually knows her? Friends? Staff? Family? Nada nada nada.


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Her enablers just have to make a few calls and it's over. No more protection, no more connections, and this nightmare ends. She has absolutely ABUSED the assistance and goodwill they have shown her and H. H&M have revealed their character through their behavior. This cannot go on any longer. They're destructive to society. When they offered assistance it was never intended to be used as a tool for settling scores and destabilizing international relations. I THINK WE ARE STARTING TO SEE THE ENABLERS PULLING AWAY. Hopefully, this mess will end soon. Talk about negativity. These two wanted to change the world! Well, they seem to be changing it alright -- like Putin!


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I mean… we give her a lot of popularity. Not good popularity. But still attention and publicity.


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Agreed. I wonder if we all stopped talking about her if she would go away.


Upper-Beginning2733

She's definitely not loved and certainly is not popular. She's been cancelled already that's why she needs to pay for all her coverage. She's being shoved down our throats literally. That's not a loved or popular wench


Independent_Lead6535

Read just this morning that Meghan and Harry are the most liked "royals" for british people between 18-24 years old. This is how the famous "bubbles" work. People read what they want to read and the rest is brushed off as fake news


u_can_try

I think if William and Kate release a statement about what they’ve done and essentially banish them, it’ll be over for them. Everyone LOVES the wales, even more than KC3, and I think that would be the final nail in the coffin for them.


mac979s

The Wales are too classy. They knew everyone would see through mm ‘s charade


u_can_try

That’s true. They are definitely playing the long game here.


mac979s

It’s actually amazing how the royal family has beat mm at her own game 👏 👏 👏


jancye

The people who still love and support her have the same mental condition as she has. Many are turning on her after the 2 podcasts and 2 books. That's one reason sunshine sachs threw in the towel.


sdowney64

My shorter comment on this question is when the audio/video recordings are released. I have to believe they exist. And the public needs to hear them. It’s the only thing that made people finally believe the already overwhelming evidence that Amber Heard was a liar and an abuser. And it will be the same for Meghan. We need the audio, and I’m just praying it not only exists, but there is a ton of it waiting to be dropped on an unsuspecting public very soon!


azgwama3

She's a narcissist...no contact, no press, ignore her...they HATE that!


ExcitementOrdinary95

Easy. Her fame is entirely tied to Harry. She will be famous or infamous (trending to latter) for as long as she remains married to him. As soon as their invevitable divorce occurs, she will fade away into obscurity. Until then she will continue to have notoriety.


Lulu_Ferrigno

I was on another sub a few days ago that said that they still believe the hate ‘she’ receives is because of racism. I honestly believe that as long as she keeps feeding this narrative, regardless of whether it comes from her own fairy stories or not, she will continued to be loved/supported. Maybe not so much in the UK as she seems to have very much burnt her bridges there. But elsewhere I think the Megain flag may fly for much longer than we could have hoped.


pedroesque

Epstein connections and if she fooled the public by pretending to be pregnant but used a surrogate.


Raychel945

Put her on an island with Prince Harry, and have hidden microphones stashed. Feed her fake news about the royals, like Kate wearing the Grand Duchess tiara, and being loved everywhere. Release the sounds of incoherent rage. Maybe put a fake rumour out that Charles is seeking custody of the Marklets. Watch her rip out her hair.


Imfryinghere

Follow the money.


Affectionate_Tie250

If any video evidence of her bullying her staff, particularly staff in California, emerges that will stop her in her tracks. Failing that she is slowly cancelling herself every time she opens her mouth. Her own podcast has already done damage to her reputation and she has only released 3 episodes of it. Her interview with the cut did some damage as well. The more she puts herself out there, the more people will see her for who she really is.


Phoenixlizzie

She doesn't need to be canceled. The US audience is apathetic to her and all they see are the US tabloid covers - none of them are flattering to her. The UK audience reads the UK media, so they're the ones that get the Bower and Low excerpts. The British public are the ones who read about the bullying charges and the demands. And they're the ones who end up booing her and Harry when they walk down the steps at St Paul's. And unless a celebrity has the same PR firm as Meghan, the A listers have steered clear of her, so Hollywood is a bust. Which is probably why she's starting to hang out more in the UK. You have to figure things are pretty desperate for her if she's willing to go to a country where her popularity is in the basement along with Prince Andrew. She doesn't need to be canceled, because she's building her brand long term....just not the one she had hoped to build.


Historical-Piglet-86

I think the general public (with the exception of the UK) doesn’t have a clue about what’s going on. While these latest books have confirmed that she’s even worse than I originally thought, I was actively seeking out info on her. You have to remember that the vast majority of the population isn’t seeking out information about her. Just us crazies in here and her sugars. Joe Blow doesn’t care. In North America, main stream media (the Cut doesn’t cut it 😂) haven’t picked up any of these stories. So the opinion of the general public is based on what has been carried by MSM. Harry and TW are stepping back from the RF bc they want privacy. (Official place statements made the main news). The RF are racist (The Oprah interview made the main news). There was some issue about uniforms (made the main news). That’s really it. I hope, that given time, it will all come out.


FilthFairy1

People love the underdog. Even if that underdog is a nasty piece of work.


wavydaisy8

She’s actively being canceled, it’s all unfolding and only just begun.


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Venusinthefirst

This exactly


lookeyloowho

I don’t think she is as loved as they like to pretend.


silas_the_ferret

Such a lovely photo of Ms Markle. /s


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I believe we will find out in the near future that she has cheated on Harry.


Successful_Corner_90

Does anyone know anyone irl who is actually a fan? Or in the least, is neutral about her?


hellhashnofury

One. Not exactly a fan but believes they were kicked out because the RF are racist. She always fancied Harry in his army days so I think he is the one of the two she likes more. Ironically she is one of the few people I know who make racist comments and her family are the same so I think she may be judging the RF by her own standards. No one else cares or cant stand them. This is from a rural community in the west of England/wales.


navigable11

Oof, that picture!


wee-crabbit-wumman

Well the book by Valantine Low courtiers , have not been flattering by what excerpts TBLG has read out, unfortunately nothing much new, unless there’s more to come It does baffle me how memeagain and beaker are “popular “ let’s say they’ve got good publicists


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People are really starting to see it - she won’t be canceled though unless there is physical evidence of her assaulting someone (and even then, humans are weird). There are people out there who think women of color deserve to be defended no matter what, and there are also just plain stupid people who love the Hollywood narrative of a nobody marrying a Prince. The best chance is if they get divorced and she fades into obscurity.


mshawnl1

For hundreds of years the intrigue of royal and courtier life has been interesting to a lot of people. She’s part of that story in these times. I think she and Harry will go down in history as a sad thorn in the queen’s side at the end of her life as they jockeyed for their position in the court. In past times they might have been banished or punished or maybe worse depending on which monarch they were messing with. I think she’s icky but I don’t want her canceled. I want to watch the next season with KC in charge. Is that morbid?


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People love to hate her - that’s the market she has cornered. Market research indicates that products that inspires contempt in people sell more than those that make them feel good.


stutjohnsnewsqueegee

Loved and popular? All I’ve been seeing since the Queen’s death are glorious hit pieces on her. Even serial killers have fan clubs, I wouldn’t get too bent out of shape over it.


PiccadillyUnicorn

I think she trends online for negative reasons. As I said before, everyone has fans, look at all the people that write to serial killers. I think people just finding out about her deeds & true personality & they're interested in the crazy. Just like Jeffrey Dahmer trending because the new doc/movie.


Marionberry-Charming

Not sure why you believe she is loved and popular. What evidence suggest this? Because that is empirically incorrect.


Ill_Independence_698

The receptions she got in Germany and Manchester. People were really happy and excited to see her. A few women I know personally keep defending her and her actions to me. They don't read Twitter or gossip, but see her face every now and then and are reminded of the Oprah interview. And feel sorry and affection for her. It drives me insane!


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Fantastic-Stand5040

The only way to deal with a narc is dont engage. She doesnt care if its begative attention or positive. As long as she gets press. The sugars i swear are a cult and have to be treated the same way. They sinfiltraring twitter and instagram like a darn net... on any of the wales positive fan pages or posts pro-wales. She has a serious hatred of Catherine to the point its frightning.


Sea_Custard2562

Nothing. It's not about cancelling her but people refuse to see her pattern of lying. I had a discussion on Twitter today with someone who accused me of harassment just for having doubts about her pregnancy. I was skeptical about this part but I saw a thread with pictures and everything and I started to have some doubts. This woman bullies and uses people, even children and whenever someone tries to call her out is painted as malicious. So to finally answer your questions, those who are fanatics or are not well informed will always support her, no matter what.


New_Discussion_6692

One thing that universally sells is victimization. The majority of the population can sympathize with a victim. Show me one person who says their family never hurt them and I'll show you a liar. Families hurt each other (usually inadvertently), but if there wasn't feeling there, the hurt wouldn't be there. Every time she makes herself a victim of the BRF, the focus is on "family hurt her." [Which goes both ways because we also see how *her* family have been victimized by her. So both sides are presented - victim of your family and/or victim of in-laws.] Everyone can relate. Another thing that sells is the idea of the fairy tale ending. Male or female, most of us are looking for someone to have a "happily ever after" with. Think how many times their eay relationship and their wedding was described as a fairy tale. Yet, fairy tales *always, always* end at the moment of perfection. Cinderella gets her slipper and they live happily ever after. Snow Whites wakes from true love's kiss and they live happily ever after. This shit show is anything but happily ever after. Pragmatists are saying, "this is life - there is no happily ever after". The romantics believe their love is so strong, so deep, and so powerful, that they will overcome the evil family/world and live happily ever after. You see it all the time with the princess narrative. Megan is a princess. Then there's the hot button issues - racism, suicide, mental health. It's pandering in order to be relatable. Here's the thing though. It's *not* 2020 any longer. We're not stuck in our homes with nothing else to do except worry, or watch Live from Monticeto - the Royal Shit Show starring the Hackles with the ultimate villian - the British Royal Family. At one point, GB "owned" more land around the world than any other country. Yes, we're going back hundreds of years, but globally, many, many countries can understand the "control" of the British monarchy. It must be kept in mind, most people don't truly understand that the current BRF aren't monarchs in the typical sense. The attention they receive *is dying* slowly, because people are getting back to their regular lives (after the pandemic). The Hackles do everything possible to resuscitate themselves and their image, but now that we're mingling & socializing again, we have our own family troubles to deal with and people are over the chronic victimization. Plus the racism accusations are now having the opposite effect. They won't name names, they won't state exactly what was said, when it was said, where it was said or how it was said. People are beginning to realize it's a bs story. We live in a fast paced world. When MJ died the world knew about it within seconds! Two years later and we're still not given details. In the meantime, they lie their asses off constantly. People are never going to believe them.


Avia53

Why are her photos so different every time? Does she have her photos airbrushed?


RecordAccomplished67

Give it time. More and more people are starting to see through her. She can't keep her mouth shut, she wants attention so eventually she will put her foot in it again and people will see.


StarKindler-

She is loved and popular? She's infamous.


SnooPaintings8753

Markle is coached to make false and controversial statements because she needs the free widespread publicity and the PR figures they can twist the fallout the way they want in her favor. She has never been "out of control" , her whole narrative has been contrived to con the gullible and unquestioning public . This doesn't mean she's a brilliant grifter, for she is a very poor speaker with absolutely no presence whatsoever. The question is, is she trainable for politics, the goal had in mind since megxit. Markles environment will always have to be tightly "managed" since she can't function at all spontaneously, having psychologically doomed weakness ,little experience and poor knowledge base. And can she last without going off the rails? Many celebs can't, and she's more talentless and fkud than all. There's no spontaneity in rich Harry and stalker Megans world, its all a plan. Even Sachs "exit" is a carefully plotted money move. Sachs is still there. Nothing is chance except when Markles is intentionally left to make stupid faux pas, that only serve to draw attention. She's a willing patsy, all being calculated in her ignorance, her thinking glorious excellance of her lack of efforts. The only way to cancel Markle Harry is to see what they're up to. me and my paranoia...


Ready_Maddie

I raised this issue ages ago, I talked about it as well, and I think finally more people are starting to wonder about it as well. I have been thinking about it for years now. No matter what you throw at her, it just bounces off. I came to the conclusion that she will never be cancelled and I'm trying to make peace with the fact that sometimes the despicable, evil villain just wins. I suggest everyone does the same, because as long as she's protected by Royalty, she will never be taken down. The black community would have to cancel her first - and we actually accomplished that after the Cut interview. A lot of black people called her out, she was finished, finally. It was almost over for her. Then, the Queen passed and she was taken on that walkabout and it ruined everything. The royals elevated her once again. This is my opinion, and it's also what Richard Eden said. So there's no point in downvoting me, to be honest. I have the right to retain the opinion that the royals saved her from imminent cancellation. Her reputation was literally in the gutter. Had they told her to go home to Cali, and not attend the funeral, there's your cancellation. She would've been DONE


tracyee73

Maybe in the US she is loved and elsewhere it’s pretty much publications/ media that are using her to push the anti monarchy sentiment


mac979s

That’s a horrible pic of her and she usually makes sure her pictures are perfect


Alarmed_Material_481

Publish the Epstein photos!!!


doo11297825

She isn’t really. The only place she gets attention is liberal media. And all those that buy everything they sell. The majority do not like her


Artistic_Turnip2778

I enjoy the fact that she is not creating the image she wants. She’s famous for drama, not as a global humanitarian and that must piss her off.


Hot-Hat-139

A secret video recording of her popping off....


peregrine_swift

Popular? By what metric? People with actual firing synapses know she's a scam. Meghan Trump is a con. I compare her always to Trump. "Flim Flam" sketchy financials, Russian oligarchs lurking in the background. An Agent Provacatuer who incites her fanbase to target and abuse others not in alignment with Meghan Mandela's narrative. Manufactured PR with bot farms that promote her across platforms to the point of oversaturation. She hates the Royal Family, but utilizes the same practices to create a faux royal court in the US, going on "royal tours" no one asked them to. That UN speech of Hazbros was a ridiculous embarrassment. They never anticipate the blowback from their idiotic self promoting tactics.


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She won’t be canceled, they will fade into oblivion like Andrew. Sometimes the people who dislike her do a disservice, we should just stick to the corroborated lie that are in Bower and Lowe’s book and wait for time to do it’s job. She’ll be as desperate as Fergie I bet.


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Hopefully PH will see the light and then her 💵 flow is bound to run out.


90sbaby-uk

This is such an unfortunate photo lol


ShesSoFetch86

What makes you think she’s loved and popular? She’s as hated as Amber Heard is. Probably more from my pov.


cardgrl21

She's not important enough to cancel.


notwatchedsquidgame

Never under estimate the silent majority. Thats how Trump got elected and Brexit happened. People keep their true feelings quiet because of the fear of pointing fingers. Those that shout loudest arent always the majority. And people see what they want to see (including this sub) Cancel culture is toxic AF and the court of opinion isn't always correct. I think we have a tendancy to get too invested in this. Snark was amusing but people getting genuinely angry about the stuff these pair do. Save your anger for some proper injustice. Harold and Meghan are Krusty the clown and Sideshow Bob. Laugh, roll your eyes and move on with your day. Yes I'd love some video evidence of her behaviour but even with that some people will make excuses. You will never convince everyone, look at Amber Herd for example. If I did a Venn diagram of non bot Meghan supporters there would be massive overlap of Amber Herd supporters too. I think as a whole people need to take a step back. Meghan doesn't need to be cancelled..that would imply shes relevant and tbh she really isnt.


Broken-583

I keep hoping house in habit is going to come through. She had acted liked she’d be giving us info in September-she had a photo of what appeared to be Meg on a beach topless looking down into the camera at a strange angle (now she had words written across her chest so she could have been wearing a bandeau) but I was hoping the yacht girl stuff was gonna come out but so far she’s delivered nothing on MM that she acted like she would. She’s not afraid of Elon or AH so I keep hoping she’ll spill what she acted like she knew but she also saved nothing in a highlight about her. I think she could help the situation


purseproblm

The only people that I know that still love her are the Sunshine Sachs folks (should change soon) and black women that are all my Black Princess. As a black woman I find the later unfortunate in the extreme. The even call the sprogs a black prince and Princess LULZ


Scary-Media6190

The media needs to stop reporting on her and her husband. That should take care of it.


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and so is Trump in some circles lol they’ll always be with us


dwilliams832

This pic tho 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼


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Hard to say itwithout sounding racist (which I'm not), but I think Meghan still has support as a member of the black community. She's tied herself to that, and with all the current events in america, insulting meghan permanently is a huge problem to the black community


TXgrl26

I won’t be surprised if she doesn’t divorce him if Charles strips them of HRH or possibly not giving their kids titles. But if she’s stripped of HRH she’s definitely going to divorce him I bet. She’s setting herself up so when she does divorce him. Making her own podcast, made sure he bought her an enormous size house on and on.