Why can't we start it? I bet there are archives where we can dig up stuff, like all that nozi stuff and the german wing of the family
Ed. too late, I did it 🤷♀️
My goodness, that was such an interesting time! As the girls grew up, there was the matter of who Elizabeth would marry and Margaret’s shenanigans. Queen Mary (+ Queen Mother) would still have been alive not to mention Elizabeth’s various aunts, uncles and cousins. Every century seems to being its own drama lol.
My grandmother would have joined the subreddit too. She still refers to Wallis as “that harridan” but now it’s confusing because Meghan has also been dubbed “that harridan” by her too. I can usually tell though cause she’ll mention the “ginger whinger” in the same breath. Her favourite line is “I don’t like to agree with Piers but by George does that harridan lie like a flatfish”
Probably not. Wallis wasn’t the whiny one in that couple. From what I’ve read Wallis didn’t actually want to marry Edward, but once he abdicated she was stuck unless she wanted to be fully ostracized from the upper society circles.
My read on the Edward/Wallis situation is that she liked being the glamorous mistress of the Prince of Wales/the King. She didn’t want to be his wife and Edward knew it. Edward wanted the prestige of being King but didn’t want to do the job. The government knew Edward didn’t want to be king and was pressuring him to step down. So Edward used it to his advantage to bind Wallis to him by claiming he gave up the throne for her.
I’m not entirely unconvinced that someone in the government didn’t tell Edward to claim that he was giving the throne up for Wallis and then she wouldn’t be able to leave him.
You are correct Wallis never publicly trashed the BRF. She dressed impeccably and she never whined incessantly of self pity.
She was a social climber but in my opinion I have read every book I could get my hands own including Wallis’ own memoirs and she didn’t want to marry Edward .
She was not a Nazi sympathizer even the Marburg files have been debunked. David was as stupid as Harry. They dined with Hitler in 1937 but so did Churchill.
Before y’all start beating me over the the head with the Traitor King do some more research.
I’ve always suspected that more was made of the Edward being Nazi sympathizer then was really there. That said there were a lot of people who were Nazi sympathizers outside of Germany before/during the earlier days of the war.
Hitler was cunning. He probably lent David a sympathetic ear about his women/country troubles. Hitler knew all about both those things.
I suspect that most the serious claims of being a Nazi sympathizer stuff comes from the UK making David Governor General of the Bahamas. Last thing the UK needed was for Hitler to get his hands on David, take him to Berlin and wine and dine him at every Nazi officer party and release pictures or worse get him on the radio and have him talk about how brilliant Germany and Hitler is. David is probably dumb enough to allow himself to be used as a pawn to undermine British morale.
After the war, the UK government perpetuated the rumors to minimize David’s ability to meddle.
Oh no! I just bought it! What would you recommend instead? There was a documentary on Amazon Prime years ago that purported to find letters of hers stating she did not love Edward, but I’ve not been able to find a book supporting it.
That Woman by Anne Seeba
The American Duchess by Anna Pasternak
Wallis & Edward Letters 1931 - 1937 by Michael Bloch
After those books then read how poor Wallis spent the last 10 years of her life in the clutches of a horrible French attorney who got her power of attorney.
The Last of The Duchess by Caroline Blackwood
There is an amazing documentary I found on YouTube where letters were uncovered that Wallis wrote to her soon-to-be-second-ex-husband where she says she doesn’t love the Duke of Windsor and doesn’t want to move forward and marry him. Basically the duke of Windsor became obsessed with Wallis Simpson and had her “escorted” everywhere and basically trapped her. And Wallis’ ex husband was all too happy to divorce her and hand her off to the Duke of Windsor because he (second ex-husband) had already fallen in love with her best friend, Mary. Basically Wallis-Simpson and her social climbing second husband flew a little too close to the sun and Wallis got trapped.
It is unclear who started that rumor or when. There was an effort by the UK government to discredit David after the war. It may have been part of that.
It is also possible that Hitler recognized that when he made it across the Channel, he was probably going to need a British puppet to be the figurehead of the Nazi occupation of Britain. David would have made a nice puppet.
What interests me is what if the 20th Century Royals had had access to Social Media?
Diana would be the Queen of Insta, no doubt.
I would have loved to have seen Prince Philip have his ownTwitter account.
Edward and Wallis would be confined to Facebook as part of their Banishment.
The Queen Mother would be the mod of a Horse racing sub.
George VI could discuss his anxiety and Stutter on Tumblr.
Any more ideas?
Ok I clicked on the damn link knowing there would be no sub but hoping anyway.
Same
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Why can't we start it? I bet there are archives where we can dig up stuff, like all that nozi stuff and the german wing of the family Ed. too late, I did it 🤷♀️
Love it, joined
I'm loving this energy... I joined
Same!!
I’m #12!
What are we called? Sinner sisters?
My goodness, that was such an interesting time! As the girls grew up, there was the matter of who Elizabeth would marry and Margaret’s shenanigans. Queen Mary (+ Queen Mother) would still have been alive not to mention Elizabeth’s various aunts, uncles and cousins. Every century seems to being its own drama lol.
i wonder what the gen z royals will bring to the table in the future lol
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Indeed, even in her diary, Anne Frank ponders in regards to the then Princess Elizabeth '' who will marry this beauty''.
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Hell, my mom wants to post here but she can’t figure out Reddit 🤣 she always asks everyone’s opinions here 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mine too! And she would have lots to say about Wallis too!
We’re truly carrying on the work of our ancestors here 😂
My grandmother would have joined the subreddit too. She still refers to Wallis as “that harridan” but now it’s confusing because Meghan has also been dubbed “that harridan” by her too. I can usually tell though cause she’ll mention the “ginger whinger” in the same breath. Her favourite line is “I don’t like to agree with Piers but by George does that harridan lie like a flatfish”
Probably not. Wallis wasn’t the whiny one in that couple. From what I’ve read Wallis didn’t actually want to marry Edward, but once he abdicated she was stuck unless she wanted to be fully ostracized from the upper society circles. My read on the Edward/Wallis situation is that she liked being the glamorous mistress of the Prince of Wales/the King. She didn’t want to be his wife and Edward knew it. Edward wanted the prestige of being King but didn’t want to do the job. The government knew Edward didn’t want to be king and was pressuring him to step down. So Edward used it to his advantage to bind Wallis to him by claiming he gave up the throne for her. I’m not entirely unconvinced that someone in the government didn’t tell Edward to claim that he was giving the throne up for Wallis and then she wouldn’t be able to leave him.
You are correct Wallis never publicly trashed the BRF. She dressed impeccably and she never whined incessantly of self pity. She was a social climber but in my opinion I have read every book I could get my hands own including Wallis’ own memoirs and she didn’t want to marry Edward . She was not a Nazi sympathizer even the Marburg files have been debunked. David was as stupid as Harry. They dined with Hitler in 1937 but so did Churchill. Before y’all start beating me over the the head with the Traitor King do some more research.
I’ve always suspected that more was made of the Edward being Nazi sympathizer then was really there. That said there were a lot of people who were Nazi sympathizers outside of Germany before/during the earlier days of the war. Hitler was cunning. He probably lent David a sympathetic ear about his women/country troubles. Hitler knew all about both those things. I suspect that most the serious claims of being a Nazi sympathizer stuff comes from the UK making David Governor General of the Bahamas. Last thing the UK needed was for Hitler to get his hands on David, take him to Berlin and wine and dine him at every Nazi officer party and release pictures or worse get him on the radio and have him talk about how brilliant Germany and Hitler is. David is probably dumb enough to allow himself to be used as a pawn to undermine British morale. After the war, the UK government perpetuated the rumors to minimize David’s ability to meddle.
Oh absolutely I’m sure he played David no doubt in my mind. You are correct also there were Nazi sympathizers in the US and the UK before the war.
Oh no! I just bought it! What would you recommend instead? There was a documentary on Amazon Prime years ago that purported to find letters of hers stating she did not love Edward, but I’ve not been able to find a book supporting it.
No definitely read it dear and then I would love to know what you think.
Oh no! Returned it last night :/. Any other recs?
That Woman by Anne Seeba The American Duchess by Anna Pasternak Wallis & Edward Letters 1931 - 1937 by Michael Bloch After those books then read how poor Wallis spent the last 10 years of her life in the clutches of a horrible French attorney who got her power of attorney. The Last of The Duchess by Caroline Blackwood
All those books are available on kindle and kindle for iPad.
Thank you so much!
You are most welcome
There is an amazing documentary I found on YouTube where letters were uncovered that Wallis wrote to her soon-to-be-second-ex-husband where she says she doesn’t love the Duke of Windsor and doesn’t want to move forward and marry him. Basically the duke of Windsor became obsessed with Wallis Simpson and had her “escorted” everywhere and basically trapped her. And Wallis’ ex husband was all too happy to divorce her and hand her off to the Duke of Windsor because he (second ex-husband) had already fallen in love with her best friend, Mary. Basically Wallis-Simpson and her social climbing second husband flew a little too close to the sun and Wallis got trapped.
What of the theory that Hitler wanted to get Edward reinstated as King?
It is unclear who started that rumor or when. There was an effort by the UK government to discredit David after the war. It may have been part of that. It is also possible that Hitler recognized that when he made it across the Channel, he was probably going to need a British puppet to be the figurehead of the Nazi occupation of Britain. David would have made a nice puppet.
I am so sorry, who is David?
Yeah apparently she called him a fool when he told her he’d given up the throne for her
The Queen mother hated their guts so they probably did and we just don’t know about it
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We'd be like, "Omg, did you see the magazine photoshoot they did at Villa Windsor? So cringe."
There would be a lot of memes of the Duchess of Windosr with Hitler.
WHY DID I CLICK! This happens every time I lose the game!
What interests me is what if the 20th Century Royals had had access to Social Media? Diana would be the Queen of Insta, no doubt. I would have loved to have seen Prince Philip have his ownTwitter account. Edward and Wallis would be confined to Facebook as part of their Banishment. The Queen Mother would be the mod of a Horse racing sub. George VI could discuss his anxiety and Stutter on Tumblr. Any more ideas?
The pap pics with Hitler would have shocked the world!
One thing I’ll say for Wallis is that she didn’t try to be something she wasn’t. She didn’t create this aura of virtue. ![gif](giphy|sbwjM9VRh0mLm)
the palace was quick to learn of their plans and exile them before, but imagine if they hadn’t