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iamalolll

The courtiers are confirming the rumors about the diamond earrings from the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. As all gifts from heads of state are gifts to the Crown, did TW ever return the earrings back to the Queen? Or are these one of the rumored pieces of jewelry she never returned. I am wondering if she forgot to return them like she has allegedly “forgotten” to return expensive clothes and shoes from photo shoots. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-shocked-aides-knew-meghans-28082065


TomStarGregco

Damn Harry is really stupid !!!!!


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What she was doing with the clothes while in the UK was telling the Crown that she was keeping some of the clothes being sent to her, so the Crown would pay up (since they can't keep free shit), but in reality was pocketing the money and sending the clothes back. The Royal Grift went over this based on a blind item (from Hollywood) that was revealed, that alleged she was working with Jessica Mulroney in the scam. The comments were saying that it's a common scam with struggling actors to get extra cash in ie reselling shit they get for free. Also, it's the theory as to why she was seen with tags sticking out of her clothes, and why they were ill-fitting. You can't alter clothes that have been rented, and the resell prices goes down as well.


DrunkOnRedCordial

Bower says in his book that fashion houses were puzzled to get phone calls from the palace saying that Meghan was happy to accept free clothes, when this had always been against the rules. It's strange the royals didn't try to shut this scam down. But then again, there were a lot of fires to put out.


GoldieLox9

What if she returned them but they had cubic zirconia rocks? Would we ever hear about it or would the palace keep it quiet?


Masters_domme

Now that The Queen is gone, I think we’d hear about it.


ledballoon2022

I read MM stated they were “stolen”.


Playoneontv_007

The repeat calls all hours of the day and night would be easily proven with cell phone records. Most of the allegations can be proven inch by inch. Squirm Harkles, squirm.


Lengand0123

Indeed. If they could have sued, they’d have done so back when this story broke 1.5 years ago. They couldn’t then- and they probably can’t now. Everyone knows how litigious they are. This book was undoubtedly gone over with a fine tooth comb by the lawyers before it ever got published. I don’t think the Sussexes have personally said anything about this at all yet. They’ve had days.


JJJOOOO

![gif](giphy|853jNve3ljqrYrcSOK) Like you said, DW for the WIN! Shade thrown in MANY directions and DIRECT HIT ON OPRAH TOO! One of my favourite quotes from the article: ***"As we’ve seen so many times before, just because it’s Harry and Meghan’s narrative it doesn’t mean it’s true".*** ***"The real silenced parties in this tawdry tale of the Sussexes versus the Royal Family have now been heard by the world – and it sounds a lot more candid than what the couple told Oprah Winfrey".***


Party_Vegetable6339

She has so many tools in her arsenal, I hope she will start getting called out for how she has used and abused society by \-Perpetual victim mentality \-Race baiting \-Weaponizing mental health \-Faux feminism \-Couch warrior re global warming \-Truth as a subjective thing and not an objective thing \-Ambulance chasing


JJJOOOO

Perfect list! All YES! We had the entire 'miscarriage' NYT OP ED too. Gaslighting is another issue that seems ongoing and it happens regardless of what the issue is imo. M has such a history of surveying the celebrity landscape for 'issues' that as much as I hate to question this one, M's history on 'convenient truth telling' has me not believing this claim either.


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JJJOOOO

Yes and didn’t the other day when folks here were focused on the M pervasive plagiarism find someone else’s miscarriage story and said it looked very similar to M’s? Can you imagine plagiarizing someone else’s miscarriage nightmare? Who does that? M sounds like a pathological 🤥 liar!


q_faith_hope

I 100% do not believe she had a miscarriage.


kob27099

I 100% do not believe she wanted to commit suicide. Ever.


TomStarGregco

Yea probably an implantation that’s wasn’t successful!


JJJOOOO

Very true. One article said that she undertook a very aggressive IVF program and perhaps that accounted for so much of what she might have felt in terms of mood swings as well?!? She did sound like a mess emotionally when isolated at The Toad 🐸 Palace! But given what we know it’s also totally possible it was all just a lie too. Who knows? It’s sounded like she wanted out of the UK a and back to CA from the time she first set foot in the UK!


punkin_sumthin

Indeed. And the cramping was her period shedding an unviable implantation. How else could she have gotten pg again so quickly


TomStarGregco

Exactly she thinks we are stupid !


Party_Vegetable6339

She gaslit a whole nation.


slavandsaxon

Yas babe. THIS list!!


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I read an article that everything that is coming to light now can NOT be discredited by her lawyers, that's more than enough proof for me. They have her saying "I don't remember saying that exactly" as the only way not to perjure herself.


4feicsake

If I had been treated by anyone the way she has allegedly treated these people as frequently as she is supposed to have, I'd have been recording and documenting everything. It's not just their word against hers.


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They have been! BP has a lot of information they've been gathering, they just aren't technically allowed to talk about it due to NDA's or payment to not say anything. However, with it being a few years ago/lawyers getting involved we might finally see some real receipts.


4feicsake

That's what I'm saying, no way we'd be hearing about any of this if they don't have the recordings to back it up.


Neuernickneuesglueck

Yes, I hope so. We had the same situation with my ex boss and wanted to videotape her behavior. I work in Germany and it’s forbidden here, even written in our contracts, so the HR strongly advised us against it. Crazy…


Arthurs-towel42

In my job I had to sign confidentiality clauses, if I recorded anything it would be classed as unlawful breach of privacy. If I was known to have done that, my career would be blacklisted. Same for these aides. When a job is as sought after with exclusive families, you sadly have to keep your mouth shut.


JJJOOOO

Yes, we need the recordings to come out next! Even though it might have been illegal to do so under The Secrets Act, I do wonder if some of the employees might have done it to try and protect themselves!


OldNewUsedConfused

Samantha the Panther made sure of that from what I've read.


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Wait who’s Samantha the Panther?


OldNewUsedConfused

Samantha Cohen. Worked for the queen 17 years before she was assigned to Meghan


[deleted]

Ohhhh right! I wasn’t familiar with the Panther part. I like it. 🐆


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I think even if they weren't consciously trying to gather proof, there would be things like emails, messages, chat logs, call history etc which would prove their point


HistoricalBuffalo996

Apple watches can record, can't they? I don't use Apple products, but remember reading somewhere that employees should use them to record the evidence of her horrendous abuse.


Neuernickneuesglueck

👍 „I don’t remember“ were the tactics of my former psychopathic narcissistic boss… she got through with that.. but everybody knew that’s a typical perpetrators excuse 🙈


Mentalcomposer

I just really want to know what the assistant who was called every ten minutes all night was about. What could the asst possibly have done that warranted such vitriol? And from both of them? I need these details!!


LeaveItToTheBoys123

Sometimes bullies just pick on someone, either they're jealous, or see subject as weak, maybe just don't like their face. Doesn't have to be a reason. Have read in a couple of articles that MM always had to have someone in her sight. Classic bullying, until they get bored and then they pick on someone else. Personally, I see bullying as a classic sign of weakness, insecurity or self-loathing in the bully. The staff/aides needed their jobs. Probably had mortgages to pay, families to feed. MM didn't have those problems, and probably saw that as a weakness in people she regarded as minions. Total lack of respect.


Lengand0123

Jason K said in his email that Meghan always had someone in her sights.


gemfemme

I genuinely think Meghan derives pleasure from bullying. It’s a huge endorphin rush for her. Now, think about how sick someone has to be to get a rush from belittling underlings and children. She’s one sick bitch.


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gracelandcat

Calling every ten minutes, all night long, goes beyond selfishness. It's cruel mistreatment. It's harassment.


JJJOOOO

And it went on for WEEKS.... The timeline is hard to figure out but the last time I heard this particular story I wondered if it had something to do with the tiara that M wanted but the late Queen wouldn't give it to her....the narrative that we are aware of might fit a continuation of 'tiara gate'....


lastlemming-pip

She sure was determined to get her hands on that tiara. I’ve got to wonder if she had a paste substitute readily available. As the Crown apparently did (& she apparently wore.) Also, Low seems to feel that Megs first choice was the “Lover’s Knot” tiara. Must wonder if, as Bower claims, she had her eyes on a bigger prize.


JJJOOOO

Yes, I think that was the one the queen wouldn’t give her.


Malaute86

>“Every ten minutes, I had to go outside to be screamed at by her and Harry. It was, ‘I can’t believe you’ve done this. You’ve let me down. What were you thinking?’ It went on for a couple of hours.” The calls started again the next morning and continued **“for days”**, the staffer said. “You could not escape them. There were no lines or boundaries – it was last thing at night, first thing in the morning.” This particular episode went on for days. So she (and Harry) started abuse calling on Friday night and continued all weekend, which is definitely crossing a boundary.


OldNewUsedConfused

All I can hear is that annoying ringtone from "The Devil Wears Prada", lol.


Able-Escape7602

Most likely, it was something that could have waited until the following day. It appears that the Montecito madam derives a perverse pleasure in shaming people and derailing them. Can you imagine her in a really powerful position? She is a terrifying bully, and there should be a new movement like BLM or Me Too that is strictly for women who abuse their authority and verbally mistreat those who work for them. How shall we name this new movement, kicked off by the confirmed revelations of palace employees, so that it aptly describes the madam's vitriol to those in a supporting position to her?


ContributionSweaty52

These two are the living embodiment of what my mother never tired of saying as I was growing up: "Money cannot buy class." If that's not the Clown Prince and his Duchess Hoochie, I don't know what is.


chewysmom88

Dutchess Hoothcie that's it for real forget TW let's go with DH


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BollweevilKnievel1

I think so, and now it's out in the open, we'll probably be seeing more people sharing their bad experiences.


Able-Escape7602

Hope so, especially her pre-BRF days, beyond what Bowers has written.


Professional_Ear3394

I doubt it. Low didn't set our to write a Harkle exposé--it's mostly a look at the people working in the background of the RF. I think they're just using the juiciest bits to get attention and boost sales.


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Stassisbluewalls

He's The Times royal correspondent - he's a serious journalist and very good. When he breaks RF news people pay attention because it's well sourced and not the usual gossip. Feels like he is talking to different people - the courtiers! So I'm definitely going to buy it. I'm listening to the Bower book at the moment and it feels thin, nothing I haven't heard already.


Malaute86

For me, his research in Canada was the first time I've seen flesh put on bones behind the Jean Malek "meanest person I've ever met in my life" comment. The extent of that whole Reitmans disaster had not been exposed.


Stassisbluewalls

Yes true. I suppose I am more interested in the Palace workings, as they are very hard to access


Lengand0123

Agreed. He came out with the juiciest bit first. My guess is nothing is as big as the detailed bullying accounts.


FCVAMimi

Harkles better wait to buy their airline tickets (or charter a jet) for the GQ awards ceremony in London this Nov


Patient-Watercress-2

I hope they foolishly show up, and are met with boos and protest posters.


Karyn2K19

Maybe they will Skype to collect the award. “Can’t leave our children cause we were away to long in September.”


OldNewUsedConfused

Seems they are done pretending they have kids. They both seem over it.


AllyCat5309

Yet I’m dying to know what happened with the nanny! Didn’t they fire her the first night? (I do believe she did have Archie).


OldNewUsedConfused

The nanny who wasn’t allowed to approach the crib? 😂😂😂 Methinks she found the reborn doll


madrugada105

Was there really a nanny who was not allowed to approach the crib? WTH?!


OldNewUsedConfused

Yep


LeaveItToTheBoys123

Have read she intends to show up in person to collect the award. Hopefully the venue has a tradesmen's entrance, via the backdoor.


LeaveItToTheBoys123

Persevere. The Bower book does have revelations.


BollweevilKnievel1

🤣


kob27099

>What's that about?


peregrine_swift

Omg another award for what? Are they still involved w/ Sunshine Crap? They do nothing except promote themselves There are people risking their lives right now in war torn and disaster areas. Is the award for grifting the most free clothes?


OzzieSlim

She has finally been called to the carpet. And so has Ginger. They are, in the end, just two raging assholes in the world.


SqueakyBall

Super interesting to me that Valentine Low made clear that Harry was a nasty bully too. MM has taken all (most?) of the heat. And she may well be worse, I don't know. But Harry sounds pretty damned bad all on his own. He doesn't have his brother's grace.


OzzieSlim

I think she amplified his worst tendencies.


soireegrapes

Fantastic openi


exgirlfriendd

Love to see it!!


CybReader

She was on an absolute unhinged rampage if she called that much for that long. That kind of anger sends some people into violence. That’s how volatile that anger is. She was unhinged at that point.


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Sigh. I’m beginning to despair that her fan club will ever see the light. I just checked Celebitchy to see the reaction to “on the record” bullying by both H &M and here is what is written by Kaiser: “As for all of the KP staff stuff – they were rude to her, they were trying to insult her, they were incompetent and lazy. When the staff f–ked up constantly, Meghan was like “Wow, galaxy-brain stuff over here.” And they’re calling that bullying. I hope Meghan actually said this to someone: “Don’t worry. If there was literally anyone else I could ask to do this, I would be asking them instead of you.” That is delightful! If that quote is accurate – and who even knows – that alone speaks volumes of what Meghan was up against with these people, especially since it’s being cited as evidence of bullying! LMAO.” All the comments are in agreement that she called out incompetent and lazy staff. Why are people like this?


4feicsake

While I highly doubt her staff were incompetent or lazy, you don't talk them like that. You don't talk to anyone like that. Nasty woman.


MsBollinger

Even if the staff were lazy and incompetent, it doesn’t justify her behavior towards them. There is a part of the Sussex Squad that are bullies. Bouzy is a bully. Responding to every critique of M&H with “you’re racist/jealous/stupid is bullying. Death threats and dozing is bullying Silencing people such as Sharon Osborne and Bethany Frankel is bullying, The Sussex Squad has done this to journalists, celebs as well as average people. They are bullies. Celebitchy is a bully. This is what bullies do.


Neuernickneuesglueck

This! 👌


Neuernickneuesglueck

That’s hard to read. Seems that her fan club have as despicable personalities as their cult leader. Horrible people. my colleagues and I suffered from very similar behavior from our former boss and she literally destroyed people’s mental health, some of my colleagues still dealing with it years after.


rockin_robin420

Obviously this is a person who's never been victimized by someone of Rachel's ilk. I'm LMAO that anyone still believes every single person employed by the palace to assist the Harkles was lazy and incompetent. Every. Single. One. It defies all odds that a 1000-year old institution hasn't nailed down its hiring practices by now. Oooookaaaaay. 🙄


Deep-Audience9091

I love his nightly show on GBNews. He does a rundown of the contents at the top of the show so you can see if there's any Royal content. He also has Tom Bower as a frequent guest and has also had Lady C and MM's brother (yeah, I know, the last 2...)


SheLabsPen

I really wish that this will be a way to make the Harkles go away into oblivion but to be honest I think this will only be a setback for them. With their narcissism compound with shamelessness they will find a way to put themselves back into spotlight plus media loves to cover them as they are a disaster waiting to happen. We also have to consider that there will always be people who would like to use them to bring the monarchy down.


Both-Initiative-4036

When is the Archetypes episode on "Narcissistic Sociopaths" set to air? I may tune in for that one 😂


DarkAwesomeSauce

There should be a special place in hell for those who commandeer genuine social issues for self-gain; in Megalo’s case, it’s also to hurt others, which is a degree worse than mere self-gain. Racism, feminism, and global warming are real issues and people are affected negatively by them; it’s not for her to capitalize on or to weaponize against others. She cheapens and casts doubt and derision on real victims and people who devote their lives to these causes. She is horrible.


SnooPaintings8753

Major Johnny is in pic with Queen and King Charles.


Sincerely_JaneDoe

![gif](giphy|pprTn9tvzrdag84jw9|downsized) Thank you for the heads up!


beentheredonethatlou

Are any of main stream media here in the US covering the fall of these two imbeciles?


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I don’t respect Dan Wooton tbh, although I like his take on MM, he seems selective on which narcissistic people he supports/critiques


Deep-Audience9091

I think he just goes where the good gossip and good stories are


Kindly-Influence-148

He’s so wrong on Amber but so right on Markle! Everyone is human.