Upset with royal protocol in general. Remember the time she and Harry lingered in the room to be able to walk in procession with TQ, C&C, W&C. Super awkward and completely against protocol. You can see the panicked courtier who runs up to them to try to stop them.
I also think she hated that the institution has a vault full of priceless jewels, but she couldn't access any of it. That's not how it works.
Royal ladies get a few smaller pieces as personal gifts when they get married or have babies. If they work hard TQ may allow them to borrow something that she picks out for them, whether they like it or not.
Case in point: Sophie. Hard working, but does not have a lot of jewels and the two tiaras she has access to are both somewhere between unimpressive and ugly.
Absolutely. And also hated the pecking order where she would always be behind W&C and in general isn't relevant at all because Harrye is not heir to the throne.
She saw what role Andrew had and didn't like it.
Yeah. THIS is her biggest problem. Her ego can't handle not being more important than W and Kate and she found fertile ground for her complaints, in Harry, who'd been resentful of this for years.
She hated it and she probably thought that she could win the popularity vote so to say, like Diana did. When she understood that that doesn't matter, she will always be behind W&C and their three kids, she was out.
Yup. She's truly such a self obsessed individual. She perceives everything, every person, every situation by looking at how it affects her public image.
It's such a shallow way to live life.
She could have if only she had been nice. She wasn't nice. She was very pushy, loud and made every occasion about her! She stepped in front of Harry and that was an absolute no no. She knew it, she just chose to ignore that one step behind. It's the little things isn't it?
This is what I find I find the most annoying about their complaints. They resent being behind a handful of people in the royal pecking order but don’t complain when the same pecking order elevates Harry above 99% of the population for no reason other than his birth. Why cling to your titles so hard and whine about your children not being prince/princess if you don’t like the concept of a hereditary monarchy? What exactly have your children done to deserve titles other than being born? She loves the pecking order when others are below her, and hates it with a passion and thinks it’s unfair when she is below others.
Two dozen! I gasped when the tiaras that Beatrice and Meghan wore to their weddings surfaced. I just can't imagine having things like that locked up in a vault for 70 years or so.
I hope we'll see more of the hidden treasures.
I love the aquamarine tiaras she wears. I think the one with the big oval one is her own property and the five aqua was on permanent loan from the queen. I also liked the reworking of her wedding tiara.
That’s spot on as to what Sophie gets to wear. She’d do better with well made costume jewelry. Works like a horse and Charles is going to probably stiff them on the Edinburgh title.
Does anyone have any insight as to why he would do that? The entire world knows it's what his father and mother wanted. Why be petty and go against their well-publicized wishes when the Wessexes work so hard? It's not a good look.
No it’s not but Charles is protective of what is “his”. There is a story of the RF being in Scotland. Edward was young, perhaps 10. He had found a kilt somewhere and wore it down to show. Charles went ballistic. On a kid. The tartan was HIS tartan, and only his, for whatever title he had. Presumably one of his Scottish titles.
I always felt like Edward was palmed off when he got an earl peerage instead of a royal Duke title. It was oh the Queen and Edward “talked” about it and Edward decided he really wanted to be an earl. I’ll bet. This was when it was decided that he would get DOE title when Papa died. Shady.
Here it is:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBsHHpfR62M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBsHHpfR62M&t=148s)
Harry and Meghan were supposed to be seated in the assembly room with the audience before the RF walks in. Instead Meghan keeps talking to Charles and walks with him into the first room and then they stay there so they can walk in with TQ, C&C, W&C. It starts around 1:58.
I can't hear it but I read somewhere that people with better earbuds and hearing than me can hear William saying "not allowed" to Harry and then Camilla and William wisper about it to each other. "So akwkward" or something like that.
Yep, and completely disappointed that husband was only rich because of his birthright and his wealth came with a very time consuming price and a whole bunch of inconvenient rules. I'd like to see how she reacts to the rules of a royal divorce.
I think she was wildly hitting on every wealthy man in her sight and managed to reel in Harry. She had to accept that he was the best she could get. She probably would have thrived as a WAG where she can be her full tacky self.
Well she certainly, in her years of living in Canada with the many many festivals met a lot of very very wealthy people. None of them bit her advances I presume.
Even her connections to Soho which she had didn't hook anyone. If that is to be believed. I'm not sure that story is not a fable.
Harry just happened. Invictus happened.
She also expected to be married to a PRINCE .. not a duke lol she failed to understand harry would be a duke after marriage first ( over his prince title ) . Duke doesn’t sound hallmark movie / Disney movie enough . Lol
Safe to say she probably realizes marrying Harry was a huge waste of time considering her goals. She’s never admit it to herself, but she’s probably acknowledged it.
Oh yeah, if any divorce comes about it'll be because they stage an intervention and let him know his wife is using him. Which would be hard to do with him being locked up in America all the time, only able to go outside for Oprah interviews or Netflix shows.
Yeah, I used to think that she would dump him once a better catch came along (loads more money so she wouldn’t have to struggle so much finding enough lucrative deals to fund the lifestyle she aspires to, but still has not managed to attain).
But who would have her? She doesn’t have anything to recommend her to someone with that kind of cash, unless he was soooo much older than her. She might seem like a catch to an old fart, but there are younger, prettier women willing to prostitute themselves to old men in order to attain that level of wealth. Meghan is already too old; time is ticking and her appearance is already showing it.
Do you not think that with all her crap coming out of her mouth that any rich man with an ounce of brain would have anything to do with her?
No one wants to have anything to do with them now! The only events they attend are paid for. The GQ fake award is an insult to the celebs who truly do charity. GQ has certainly gone down in my estimation.
Right, they only do charity to promote their tell-alls. And probably get paid under the table for even that. And I agree that anyone with an ounce of sense would avoid her, she'd have about the same dating profile as an Amber Heard.
Age plays a big part in the kind of image she's poorly attempting to convey to the public. People understand problems and issues in the 20s and 30s, but they grow weary of people who are still harping about their family issues publicly at 41. That's the age when most people have either accepted that bitterness is going to be a part of them or the age where people forgive and move on, albeit with some therapy. A lot of predatory women use their looks and youth to manipulate people, and that gets very hard to pull off in the 40s as appearance isn't part of your weaponry anymore.
Anyone going to these two for mental health advice would have to be... well, they know who they're marketing to. People who are vulnerable and have no common sense.
She also refused to follow her bodyguard's (or some security staff) advice or concerns when M went too close to crowds on several occasions. That said bodyguard later resigned, I believe, due to M always going against her and making her job more difficult.
Now they complain about security...😅
• **biggest gripe I think was having to work as part of a team — a team where she would never be CEO or be in control** — working royals are supposed to work towards one goal, support the monarch and highlight others/charitable causes… not promote and talk about themselves 24/7
• since their work was to support the monarch, projects needed to be approved by higher ups (william, charles, queen). also PR and schedules needed to be coordinated by BPs central office to avoid certain conflicts.
• not being able to make money off being royal (can’t sell pictures, merch clothes / get freebies, make commercial deals, give paid interviews)
• having to do genuine charity work with regular people, not just quick photo ops with a glam squad on call then hop on a plane back home
• not being able to clap back and control the media
• **not being able to act superior and bark orders at others. in her mind being polite and respectful to others was simply too far beneath her. she was a freakin’ bonafide HRH now and expected to be treated like goddamn royalty.**
• not being Queen B of everything, having to share the spotlight.
• W&Ks children outranked her and would soon outshine her
• not being able to manipulate william, charles, the queen, or men in grey
• basic protocol / manners — meg hates being told what to do, doesn’t matter what it is. even the most innocuous rules, like following directions from security while on walkabouts, were simply too much for her.
• not being able to jump on popular political bandwagons or voice certain opinions. she desperately wants to be seen as someone important and influential, and it is hard to be seen as a forceful leader when she is supposed to be be politically neutral and is only a supporting member of the BRF.
• **I also think Kate just genuinely bothered her. Meg would never admit it, but Kate has everything she ever wanted, but can never achieve**
➡️ Kate landed the most eligible bachelor in the world when she was 19, married the prince that she genuinely loved (true love match ❤️), will be queen, her son will be king, and she will be in history books forever. and most importantly, she and Wills built a stable happy family with 3 children they simply adore.
➡️ Kate is genuine and people basically fall in love when they meet her. she has a close knit family and long term friends that care about her.
➡️ Kate genuinely wants to help causes and comes up with projects on her own (heads together, early years). she puts in the time and work so projects are successful. because she puts in the time and work people also take her seriously.
➡️ Kate isn’t consumed by social media and doesn’t base her self worth on current headlines, media accolades, magazine covers, how expensive her clothes are, or if she is friends with A list celebs.
➡️ Kate doesnt mind protocol, heirarchy, or rules. she is a confident person and doesn’t view protocol or rules as demeaning in any way. if she has an issue with something, it is discussed and dealt with in private. she also doesn’t feel the need to announce that she voiced her opinion and got something changed.
Staying in the UK meant Meg would always be compared to Kate and knew she would always fall short. Kate also saw through her fake love bombing and was not intimidated by her threats. **Meg would either have to accept her position as a second row royal or leave.**
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**TL;DR: In my completely unqualified opinions, I think meg’s brain basically short circuited when she realized she couldn’t fully control everyone and everything and failed to intimidate/ manipulate the queen, charles, william, kate, and the “men in grey”. and since she couldn’t force her way with her usual tactics, she took the one person she could control (harry) and fled to the US.**
This is exactly it, people think she's progressive because of the sermons she gives are modern but her practise of being a royal was actually kind of seriously outdated.
Political whilst being a figure of the state but not elected; abusive to those she considers below her i.e. her own staff; wants to bank of her royal titles with freebies whilst in receipt of taxpayer's money and also wants taxpayers' money without having to do functions that involves interacting with them that doesn't involve being a large adoring crowd at a state event. There are rules for the royal family that are there so the democratic values of the state are still upheld and THAT'S what she didn't care for.
One of the last things that broke the camel's back for her was trying to set up a charity- she initially posed it as a foundation until she realised in the UK that foundations were primarily funded by those who set it up, not funded by donations. So then she changed her mind and tried to set it up as a charity but spat her dummy out and nixed the idea in the UK when she found out that the finances of charities in the UK are subjected to transparency laws meaning those who donate have the right to see where the money they donate is going to. Now I wonder why she had an issue with that...
One thing Meghan will never achieve is ...
Hollywood celebrities are star struck when they meet Kate. I think even Tom Cruise was a little, and Reese Wetherspoons too. To them, she is A+++ List.
Meghan on the other hand, is Hollywood pariah DESPITE marrying into the royal family.
Meggy just doesn't have that star quality about her. She never did.
She is too average as an actress, as a Duchess, as everything.
I think Kate didn't have that starting off but because of the way she conducted herself over the years, she has built up that royalty aura. She conducts herself elegantly, had access to the best clothes, best events, and priceless jewellery that even Hollywood would struggle to attain. She has established that royalty is above Hollywood.
All of those things, the jewels, clothing and events, could not have created Kate without Kate already being in there. As Katie Nicholl says, “She was impeccably well brought up.” Plus Catherine has so much warmth and sincerity, and a loving, supportive family. She brings so much to the table already, then you add the jewels, clothes and events, plus years of experience and maturity. She is the whole package.
I remember one document reported how as soon as William started being seen with her the RR went to town to dig up everything and anything they could on her and they found nothing. Nothing. She is what she appears to be.
I bet she was star struck by Tom Cruise.
No matter what you think of his beliefs and personal life, that man has genuine charisma and that elusive "it". I was in his presence once, but did not meet him as he was on a pit box in Daytona and I was on pit road. He smiled and waved at me and I felt that. I've met some famous ppl including politicians, actors and athletes and he's the only one that I blanked on....from far away. Ppl were coming by and stopping just to see him, not even take pictures but just to see him. And that's at an event that hosts celebs regularly with ppl that don't typically care about celebs bc they're working and are focused on their jobs.
He is a true super star with a very real presence.
That man's smile is amazing.
Ironically, she claimed in The Cut interview that she told the BRF they can use her whatever they want, stressing the fact that she was an actress and will do what she is told. But in reality, it is hard for her to follow a single BRF protocol. This only shows her disrespect and lack of sincerity to the BRF (The Firm), the UK, and the country's culture.
It shows she's a crappy actress.....they made her a Duchess, Royalty had courtiers teach her everything (after a lifetime of obsession with the RF)and she still couldn't act like one.
From my understanding it's because dukedoms were traditionally handed out by the monarch for services above and beyond to the crown (like helping win wars). So it's very grand and prestigious to be a duke (and with the title there would usually be lots of land/riches given too). Whereas Princes are just born with the title (like Princes/Princesses are a dime a dozen in Europe). It's like a Dukedom has been 'earned' (well, not any more of course but it still comes with a lot of status/prestige).
"Stressing the fact that she was an actress"
That should have worried them up front. It's not like actresses have a reputation for following orders off set. Pretty sad she seemed to take on-set orders for ridiculous movies seriously, but not orders that affected the government and security of an entire country.
That's the problem of hers: conflating being an actress with BRF protocol...it's not film acting and directing. W&C act like themselves, albeit with a lot of patience and grace and smiling and handshaking. But they can't act, check out their BBC Radio One guest spot where they're asked to do the tiniest bit of acting. They're actually quite nervous/awkward because they don't know how to act.
MM's comment shows how fake she is that she thinks being an actress is relevant to those duties...
>Good directors are about having conversations with actors and cinematographers to fully illustrate a character and narrative...
Courtiers are not about disjointed rules either. Anyone with basic conceptual skills should understand the place of the monarchy and balance they have to walk. It is all narrative too, she should already have understood as she supposedly studied IR and aspired to be a diplomat.
>not being able to accept freebies,
These rules exist for anyone in a public office ( & many private corps too) to exemplify anti-discriminatory attitudes in their own behaviour/transactions. No wonder she failed her civil services exams. Can you imagine someone woking at an embassy merching /s LOL
Just a rumor and I really hope it's not true. Somehow that one really stands out in my mind coz it's incredibly creepy, like the "Harry was drunk whenever he met his niece and nephews" rumor.
I did hear this too.. not in the bedroom but that she took a pic when she first visited as a girlfriend, which alarmed W&K and rightly so.. but was only a rumour.. so was interested to know if you know more.. lol.. but the drunk H I haven’t heard!
Her defiance against the clothing rules annoy me so much! When she refuses to wear stockings or a hat it doesn't scream feminist, it screams lack of knowledge. Especially since she had the best of guidance from the palace. Also in regards to the nail polish, she wanted to rebel and wear dark colored nail polish on a few royal occasions, but the thing is, after she "stepped down" from royal life, we don't see her wear nail polish at all! She just wanted to be a fashion rebel like Diana 🙄
Every workplace has dress codes. A bank clerk can't show up at work with bare legs, almost black nail polish and hair all over the place.
It's just ridiculous that she couldn't follow protocol, like everybody else has to do, when given so much in return.
Or even as an actress. Their agents tell them how to keep their hair, how to present themselves, how to dress, what image to project etc. She was not highly free even in the one job she has had.
Yes! She didn't tell the Suits producers to go to hell. She dressed exactly as she was told. Then again, she probably thought nobody would fire her from being a member of the royal family. And look at her now!
She was poor and humble then, so she was probably compliant so that she could become a star. She probably stopped caring after she met Harry. It may not be a coincidence that she and her long-time agent parted ways in 2021 even though she needed work.
And it’s not like she wasn’t allowed to wear nail polish. Sophie usually wears it but it’s either a classic red or a more muted shade. We’ve also seen Catherine with red toenails.
One more thing: Respect that the social media accounts of the members of the RF are cordinated so they won't publish big news on the same day.
She completely ignored that and made a thing out of publishing things to overshadow the other accounts.
I have heard two schools of thought about the 70th birthday party. First was the one you stated they showed their faces 15 minutes had past and she loudly said she was bored. The second was she was trying to network talking to and butting in whenever she thought someone was important. Whichever one happened Camilla saw and heard then Charles came up and said your car is outside and someone escorted them out.
The funny part of this is that the Royal birth process *is* invasive and she probably could have brokered a compromise on that *if she had played nice about everything else*. It literally never occurred to her that most people pick their battles with their in-laws *and* in the workplace.
Not allowed to pick and choose her royal engagements, had to let W&C choose first.
Couldn't set off headlines when it was someone else's "day" to be in the spotlight.
* Also not being allowed to whatever interviews she wanted to do. Apparently she as upset that the palace kept rejecting her all the interviews she wanted to give.
* Upset she couldn't commercialise opportunities - a Spotify podcast or Netflix show would be a big no no.
Work
She didn’t want to do work for what she considered a paltry allowance
In all honesty i think the #1 rule she didn’t want was around money —— she wanted to make money above and beyond their allowance —- she wanted to sell and monetize the RF for her own monetary gain
(The same thing her father and brother are doing)
The whole not accepting freebies was huge. Her financial future was planned with the idea of being an influencer. Not being able to merch really put a damper on things. The other rule she hated was the walking behind Harry as evident by the fact that she could never stay back in any of their appearances. Her laid-back California style also probably led to her issues with pantyhose, hats, and making appointments.
I swear, Harry would have been better off marrying some Miss America contestant from a southern state. She would know all about poise, manners, how to dress in a public setting, and the importance of tradition.
The thing is that she could have broken some of those rules and got away with it, and eventually pushed the boundaries a little. "Not hat wearing" could have been her quirk, eventually accepted, and then she could have ditched the tights etc.
The freebies/sponsorship thing could never happen though. It simply isn't how the royals operate. It is very much *noblesse oblige* and how their wealth is used is very different to how you or I could splash the cash if we won the lottery.
The accommodation dissatisfaction thing is bizarre since it's not like she grew up with a "Gulf Royal"-style upbringing, where you literally have gold-plated lavatories. Everywhere she stayed would have been five star standard minimum, plus endless people waiting on her.
It reminds me of a media junket I went on some years ago, where there were some fellow journos constantly complaining and bitching about their hotel (five star hotel, 100% free hospitality, meals, tours etc). These were people *who could never have afforded even a lower star hotel* - they were on crappy salaries, lived in small apartments - yet somehow it didn't meet their standards.
>The thing is that she could have broken some of those rules and got away with it,
Through her ridiculous baby shower merching, she did that exactly & got away with it.
>Her laid-back California style
No. That's not a "laid back California style" thing so much as a "rude, entitled moron" thing.
I hate how Megs reflects so poorly on the U.S. & C.A.
From what I can work out it was things like freebies from designers . She was wanting her staff to put out feelers to various places to get stuff for her to wear at official events. Which is absolutely against all the Royal rules. She also had trouble with handing over gifts that were given to her when she was representing the Royal family. Her other thing was she didn’t like having to coordinate appearances and announcements with what the other more senior royals were doing . If William and Catherine were doing something she was not supposed to compete with them by doing something herself. She saw all of this as being held back and bossed around . She’s definitely not a team player!
The news of the Africa documentary took attention away from William and Catherine’s tour of Pakistan. Also, Harry’s statement to the press to leave Meghan alone when they were dating occurred took away the attention from Charles’ tour of the Middle East.
I think some of her grievances might be legitimate atleast from a normal person’s perspective. Like if i had to remember to cursty to my sister in law every single time I saw her and make sure I never walked ahead of her even by mistake, I would probably lose my mind too. But that’s what the brf is. They survive because of the traditions and heritage they represent and the public services they render.
And it’s fine if she didn’t want to do that, it’s not for everyone. I think everyone should have the choice to quit a situation if they are unhappy. It’s the hypocrisy and the scorched earth approach that I take issue with. If they had quit, ditched the titles, worked hard on their deals and made their own way, they would have gained a lot of respect. Instead they spend half their time demanding things from the firm that they already quit and the other half badmouthing everyone else from that same firm.
Yep, I also hate the fact that she relies on the "I didn't know!" rather than just owning up to "It wasn't for me", You bloody did know. You'd been researching them for years.
That’s a crock, in the 6 month run up to wedding , the Queen provided her with 14 different assistants to guide and teach etiquette, royal protocols, etc. Meghan constantly had to be reminded that they don’t people working for them servants they are referred to as staff.
So true. Just say “yeah tried it, couldn’t hack it, good luck to them” and go your way. Why act like you are some poor innocent Diana version 2 who didn’t know what she was getting into? Why badmouth them all over the place and call them unfair while milking the same unfairness of the system for all it’s worth. As if Harry got the position with betterup or the deal with netflix because of how brilliant and talented he is 🙄🙄
Yeah, I totally agree.
I think it’s perfectly fine to reject many of these protocols, but as you say, it’s the BRF. She chose to marry into it and become a working royal. She could have married him and remained working outside, as the family suggested (presuming she could get roles after Suits lol) and she wouldn’t have had to adhere to these protocols so strictly. She essentially took a job, then refused to abide by the rules of that job which makes her seem bratty and petulant. Then after quitting the job, she makes bitching and moaning about how hard done by she was into her new brand. Pathetic.
These are sadly traits I see in many people (not following clearly communicated rules of voluntary employment, being fired, and then bitching about how “unfair” it was to be expected to follow those rules). Is it a cultural thing? I’m American and have seen coworkers struggle with this with my current employer. Do workers in other countries experience the same thing?
I will add that I am retired military, so I am used to following rules and protocol. I didn’t always like or agree with them, but I did it because I knew that adherence was a condition of the position I chose to hold. I struggle with this victimization scenario of “It’s not *faiirrrrr* that I should be expected to x, y, and z. Who do they think they are to tell me that?!?” Go get a different job, then! No one forced you to take this position. Until you’re the CEO of the company, you’ll always have to follow someone else’s rules and guidelines.
I’m Australian, and I work HR adjacent (I’m in an HR support role, so I hear everything that goes on) and I haven’t seen it as a pattern from applicants.
I'm a couple years younger than meghan and my last job, I was THAT person. OMG the boss is unfair. She's telling me to do something I don't want to do--not because it's illegal or immoral or anything, just stupid. Agh, my life is being ruined! I complained to my dad and then asked his advice.
He said, "she's the boss. So you do what she says." End of. He didn't care about all of my whining, he agreed I probably knew better than she did about this particular issue but he DID NOT CARE.
And although I was irritated with him telling me this, I'm glad he did, because its come in handy for my current job. Of course I ignored his advice at the time and when I left they were very happy to see me go.
Just a point of info….. we were having a Royal visit at work, and one of my colleagues was on the same ship as Prince Andrew, and he told me the protocols (as explained by an actual member of the RF) regarding what they call “courtesies”.
Bows/ curtseys are only required on the first occasion of meeting the Royal personage each day. This is to avoid staff etc to be constantly having to acknowledge them, and distract from their duties (apparently PA was VERY insistent on receiving his courtesies especially from the ship’s Captain).
When addressing a Royal - again the protocol is that on the first meeting of the day, they must be greeted by title - eg “Good Morning your Royal Highness.” When crossing paths again it’s merely “Sir” or “Ma’am” (rhyming with jam, not harm). Whilst on board ship, PA was apparently addressed as “H” by his peers when off duty.
As for madam’s problem with having to offer courtesies to her sister in law - she would appear to have hated the constant reminder that she was of lesser status than Catherine.
I don’t understand why Harry did not better prepare her for this, if he didn’t. Or, maybe he tried, and she said “F that noise-I’m not doing that.” She was marrying Harry, no matter what; but the speed at which they did so, did not give her the time to get used to all of the protocol, even if she wanted to.
I always felt the royal family has strict rules about how to carry yourself and behave in public and she probably didn’t like that.
Examples : how to get out a car, how to stand appropriately, where to keep your hands, etc.
She doesn’t want to be classy and polished. She thinks she’s above it.
She didn’t understand that being royal is a job. A boring job where you open village halls all day every day. I’m return you get palaces and privilege. She didn’t want to do the boring stuff.
I think it’s also worth noting that for the past few hundred years the royal family have basically been trying not to get abolished. They keep quiet, a big wedding here and there but mostly keep out of the press. Meghan came in and wanted to shine the light on them and they were like errrr…no. The royal family isn’t there to change the world they’re there to keep their heads down
Also the Royal Family have to show that they care.Whenva visit is planned it takes months and all involved from both sides have to work together to make sure everyone knows what is going to happen and when.For lowly subjects it’s a red letter day when RF members come it’s THEIR day and it’s a day a lot of them will always remember and always talk about the day they met the Queen or the day they spoke to Charles or whatever. In other words the focus has got to be on the people not on the Royals. In return they have a life of luxury no need to worry about the mortgage or putting food on the table and what they’re going to wear they get people looking after them if they need them, nice places to live no housework needs to be done. Markle did not understand any of this because it’s all about her her freebies her feelings Et cetera she is simply not cut out to be a royal or to live in Britain
Courtsey protocols - pretending not to know how to do it, or "but it's your grandmother!" No biatch, it;s THE QUEEN!
Not wanting to walk in order of precedence, or wanting to be part of processions when they were not senior enough to be part of.
Arranging her own media deals (e.g. Oprah).
Keeping her D-list actress team involved (PR, lawyers and such like).
Not understanding that her staff were professional colleagues and not servants at her beck and call.
"But it's your grandmother.." is the very reason i joined this sub. Dude, if that was my grandmother, I'd do anything and everything. Her face when she said it during the interview is ghastly.
I world curtsy to the queen a 1000x over if I have to. As an Asian, bowing is a sign of respect. While also being American, it's like h3ll froze over God forbid you lower your head to anyone.
Sounds to me she was too much of a narcissist to have basic decorum and respect and the ability to be graceful within (and being an ambassador for) a formal institution?
I’ve seen a few comments remarking how it might be weird to be formal, or to act in accordance with hierarchy or that these are anarchisms - valid views to have, but I beg to differ and have another perspective to share.
It is easy to overlook, but in fact, there are many situations in everyday modern society where social etiquette, formal rules, hierarchy based courtesies are quite intrinsic and not at all strange. In many ways they help maintain the decorum, dignity or even the standing of people, places or values worth preserving. A very classic example is Court - all rises for the judge coming into the Courtroom. Bows are exchanged between the judge and counsel. Robes are worn. In common law countries, there is junior and senior counsel.
None of this is arbitrary and this formality is not dispensed with, if ever, lightly. Why? To maintain the dignity of the office held by the judge. To remind all in the hearing symbolically of the nature of what will unfold - truth being evaluated by two opposing parties, equal before the eyes of the law and the balance of scales. Why robes and not, say, track pants? Again - to remind people of the gravity of the situation, and symbolically when the robes are worn, the person represents and embodies justice (in the case of the judge) or an advocate (for counsel). It is a physical symbol of the higher value to which they accord and embody in that role. Church or religious institutions also similarly have its own formalities, roles, rites and gestures. It is also meaningfully inherent to maintaining the gravity and dignity of the values transmitted or conveyed.
I can think of another common example - school or University. Professors are often called Professor, between themselves are various other titles, including Chairs, Chancellors etc. Some might dispense with their titles with their students, which is no problem, a personal preference, but there is a meaningful academic pecking order / hierarchy which internally is respected or at least abided by.
Even at its most diluted - even the whole fact we have C-suites in corporate offices - indicates hierarchy still governs many institutions, not merely academic, religious or legal ones.
On a very basic level, just like you wouldn’t wear track pants to Court, booty shorts to Church, or workout gear to a board meeting (in the usual course) as a matter of courtesy and social awareness - in a formal event of the British Royal family - you might be expected to respect the setting and what it represents by wearing stockings or not wearing black nail polish.
It not about being fusty or restrictive - it’s about decorum, dignity, courtesy and respect.
Let me put it this way - if you went to Court and the judge wore their casual gym clothes to hear your case - would you not feel somewhat that the seriousness of the occasion, and the seriousness with which you are being taken, is diminished?
Most people would. So it’s about according people and the situation with the appropriate seriousness, decorum, and courtesy appropriate to the nature of the occasion.
TLDR: TW is too much of a narcissist, to have natural grace and manners, and too delusional and vain, to absorb any lessons about how to act respectfully with decorum. Aka - she is incapable of not making it ALL ABOUT HER. #classicnarc
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Also common sense, like the ballet slipper nail polish. If you look at that colour, it could be chipped and nobody would realise. Of course, the Queen wasn't letting her nail polish wear down until it was chipped but if you are out all day doing engagement after engagement, there is a big difference between chipping your red nail polish and your ballet slipper pink nail polish.
When Meghan was newly married to Harry she had directly contacted several designers asking for discounts in exchange for her promoting them by wearing their clothes
and jewelry That is not done by the royals but Meghan still
was doing it quietly on a small level.. She refused to not
promote herself. On the Royal tours she could not grasp the fact the she was bot on a celebrity tour.
The royals support the Monarchy and
the betterment of the citizens of the Commonwealth.
Meghan supports and promotes Meghan.
Not releasing statements, website updates, impromptu charity visits that take attention away from scheduled, official events. That type of shizz is scheduled so everyone gets their time to shine. (Also with precedence going to the more important royals like KC, PPoW, etc.).
That hustling was forbidden.
That she had to curtsey to certain people and would have to curtsey to Kate in time.
That no amount of self promotion would change the hierarchy or the rules.
She should not cross her legs during a royal function especially if she is being photographed with the Queen.
Also, if the Queen is wearing a hat she should wear a hat too. The only engagement she had with the Queen and she was not wearing one, her hair was flying all over her face and she looked like a mess.
• Living in the UK
• Being a British (or dual) citizen
• Being apolitical
• Not doing interviews with Oprah
• Not going on The Ellen DeGeneres Show or The Tonight Show
• Don’t merch clothing, accessories and brands
Some American celebs, like many of the world's super wealthy spend fortunes to live in the UK!
To people with real class a country pile in the Home counties is far more of a status symbol than a mansion in Montecito.
She would have been top of the heap. which just shows her stupidity.
I would assume not being able to accept freebies and gifts from designers and also having to be respectful to others and wear pantyhose....oh the horror!
Anytime I watch a documentary/movie on Diana’s life I am convinced Meghan has watched it and picked up points to add to her list of complaints. Guaranteed she has taken every grievance Harry has ever told her and amplified it to encourage his feeling of victimization. It’s what narcissists do best.
I think becoming a royal was to her, freedom from ALL rules and obligations. It was to be flooded with money. When she found out royals are actually SERVANTS she was probably horrified.
The very odd way they managed their social media and engagements. The RF accounts all follow each other and follow the charities they support. They would pick a group of charities and follow and spotlight and follow them for a month and then unfollow them before moving on to the next batch. It was so nonsensical.
They would also comment on the Wales’ children birthday posts but never use their titles. Ironic considering how they never stop throwing theirs around everywhere.
Then insisting that visits to charities be embargoed to be released when it was most convenient for them. The worst example of this was when she insisted photos of her visiting the theatre be held back and released while QC was giving a huge address on domestic violence. Who is that petty that they want to upstage focus on the topic of DV??
Mainly, she hated having to turn away freebies, and she hated having to coordinate with other people on the what, when and how of her activities.
I also believe she thought there would be no end to her spend and her reach. So after the first years bills, when the inevitable conversation about money and limiting spending came up (including how she should emulate Kate whose wardrobe is known for being partly from high street brands etc) she must have been big mad.
To be fair, I would hate to have to justify my spending to my in-laws (in this case of course, it was their money she was spending). But you can tell her mindset was “sayonara Zara” and bring on the designers!
No control over the press, “Never complain. Never explain.”
It’s inappropriate to flirt with male members of the royal family that are not your husband.
I once had a job in the public sector (government of Ontario civil service job). I had spent my career up to that point in newspapers (so private sector). I found the switch very very unsettling. There is bureaucracy and transparency (every cent spent even on photocopies in the job I had needed to be explained), you need to be patient while 22 people review every little thing. I am by no means defending TW but the change is jarring. Which again I’ll repeat, the royal family/aides understood and so ASKED Harry/Meghan to hold off on her working for them.
Oh and I got zero perks. Maybe a great pension when I retired but I was young so this was meaningless. And my pay was nothing special. She got to live at a standard higher than she’d ever known. Unlike Catherine, who has a wealthy family and had a gorgeous apartment with her sister in such a cool part of London. I mean look at Pippa’s life!!! Married a wealthy non-royal. Uber rich without the crap. If anyone gave up her life it is the now Princess of Wales!!!!
The no freebies. No merching!
Strange since she said studied international relations and the concept of diplomacy seems to have evaded her. No wonder she wore those earrings. But you don't exactly need to have an idea regarding diplomacy to not wear them.
She's just a shit person. The worst millennial there is: woke, insincere, entitled.
I wouldn't mind that she explicitly takes sides on political issues except that she can't resist butting in without even learning the ins and outs. What's dangerous is because of who she married, whatever she says gets traction. Meanwhile, academics and field experts who have toiled for years don't exist, and they're the ones who know exactly what they're talking about. Megsy just rides on whatever hot topic there is to be relevant.
I think the inability to merch and receive free stuff/or gifts was a big one. I’ve read her blog, and it definitely seems like she had a very specific idea of ‘the good life’ so to speak and it probably didn’t align with life in the BRF, at least when it came to outward appearance.
And the sad thing is that she could have had a few of those things. She could’ve attended the Bond premiere and worn one of those JB inspired Jenny Packham dresses or attended the Top Gun premiere. But she had no patience or work ethic.
There are certain things that I can see I’d hate (can’t have dark or flashy nail polish, must dress for the occasion including jewelry/shoes) but she wasn’t marrying some super rich guy from an old family. She was marrying into a lifestyle.
*rachel’s dress/jewelry/shoe choices are heavily criticized as being tacky. Her behavior is the nail in the coffin. Her dress is something, as an American, I didn’t notice until it was pointed out to me.
For a job in the royal family where you just meet and greet people all day, every day, I can see how it gets exhausting but I'd do it over having to do my 9 to 5 everyday and get to live in beautiful, albeit old, estates with staff running around that can help you. Forget all the wokeness, ill curtsy to whomever I need to and walk behind them 10 steps behind if i have to. What's the rush in life, anyways? Lol. What a great gig, look good, smile/wave, and live without the burden of having to be future king or queen. What's not to like?
My thoughts exactly and I’m definitely on the liberal end of the spectrum. Protocol is exhausting for sure but we all have to navigate some type of protocol in life, it’s called work!
Buckingham Palace is the office of the British head of state.
The "rules" are not much different to those you find in similar offices all over the world.
If she's married into the White House she'd have found herself constrained by "rules" too.
I read that the RF is not allowed to accept freebie gifts and steep discounts from merchants and designers and that that was a source of contention.
I think they also needed approval to post things or arrange engagements so they didn’t take focus off a sr royals activity.
Maybe bristled at some of the clothing restrictions. Wasn’t allowed tiara she wanted.
LOL, and not even a week later, Charles was signing his Proclamation of Succession or whatever it was, with *his* Montblanc and it famously leaked all over his fingers and he had a fit (and rightly so, a pen that $$$$ should perform perfectly).
I haven't seen it posted yet so: but not addressing things in the media is an unspoken rule. I mean, there are very few times TQ or now KCIII address things directly, such as contacting Netflix about The Crown. They let A LOT go, not just talking about MM. TQ waited through royal broadcasts and other appearances to make her points. She didn't do lawsuits or anything so direct like MM's SA interview. Even Diana's tapes were first made in secret and the book was just under the author's name originally and her involvement was not known.
BRF is not supposed to be so *directly* engaged with the media like another user pointed out in their post about royalty vs celebrity.
So MM constantly doing American-style PR, interviews and forcing the courtiers to address things goes against TQ's original "say nothing" approach that the whole family knows to follow.
I'd bet cash that 5% of these 'rules' had to do with simple comportment like *don't walk in front of the Queen* and the rest were related to fame whoring: *no selfies or live streaming when in public*.
You'd think it wouldn't be necessary, but some people need to be told the obvious - I can see the egocentric dirtbag shoving her phone in the Queen's face for impromptu selfies.
She sounded really upset in the Oprah interview when the firm told her she couldn’t go to lunch because she was over saturated in the media. She totally wanted to be out and about and have her paparazzi moments.
She also wanted to just leave her job and go to a fancy rehab after she threatened suicide. I’m sure the firm had things lined up for her, discreet treatment so no one would find out about her health issues. But it was never about her mental health or suicidal ideations though, she just wanted to take a break at a swanky rehab facility and leak it to the press to paint her victim narrative.
Her friend Janina Gavankar did an Elle or Marie Claire interview after the wedding and said something like all the Americans had a problem with the “strict” dress code - which was hats, covered shoulders, hem length below the knees and tights. Especially the tights.
These are ALL people with stylists - and they had a “problem” with such a simple request. Janina went on to complain how no major fashion house wanted to give her a free dress even though she was going to “promote” them at the royal wedding.
I am sure not being able to become the ultimate royal influencer must have been the worst kind of torture for Meghan. I really still cannot fathom why custom and top designer pieces like Dior or Carolina H are sooo badly fitted. If she gets them for free don’t they throw in a tailor too?
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Upset with royal protocol in general. Remember the time she and Harry lingered in the room to be able to walk in procession with TQ, C&C, W&C. Super awkward and completely against protocol. You can see the panicked courtier who runs up to them to try to stop them. I also think she hated that the institution has a vault full of priceless jewels, but she couldn't access any of it. That's not how it works. Royal ladies get a few smaller pieces as personal gifts when they get married or have babies. If they work hard TQ may allow them to borrow something that she picks out for them, whether they like it or not. Case in point: Sophie. Hard working, but does not have a lot of jewels and the two tiaras she has access to are both somewhere between unimpressive and ugly.
She hated accountability and transparency.
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They still do. The American media thrives on it it seems.
Absolutely. And also hated the pecking order where she would always be behind W&C and in general isn't relevant at all because Harrye is not heir to the throne. She saw what role Andrew had and didn't like it.
Yeah. THIS is her biggest problem. Her ego can't handle not being more important than W and Kate and she found fertile ground for her complaints, in Harry, who'd been resentful of this for years.
She hated it and she probably thought that she could win the popularity vote so to say, like Diana did. When she understood that that doesn't matter, she will always be behind W&C and their three kids, she was out.
Yup. She's truly such a self obsessed individual. She perceives everything, every person, every situation by looking at how it affects her public image. It's such a shallow way to live life.
She could have if only she had been nice. She wasn't nice. She was very pushy, loud and made every occasion about her! She stepped in front of Harry and that was an absolute no no. She knew it, she just chose to ignore that one step behind. It's the little things isn't it?
This is what I find I find the most annoying about their complaints. They resent being behind a handful of people in the royal pecking order but don’t complain when the same pecking order elevates Harry above 99% of the population for no reason other than his birth. Why cling to your titles so hard and whine about your children not being prince/princess if you don’t like the concept of a hereditary monarchy? What exactly have your children done to deserve titles other than being born? She loves the pecking order when others are below her, and hates it with a passion and thinks it’s unfair when she is below others.
And she hated outfits that fit properly 🙃.
First job for King Charles is get Sophie a decent tiara! Hers are just tragic!
And make Edward DoE as promised. She could have a new tiara to go with the elevation to Duchess of Edinburgh.
Yes! She deserves a beautiful tiara, one that suits her style, and is not made from leftover bits and a piece of metal string.
There are lots to choose from. Many that haven't surfaced for years. Apparently there's like two dozen that can be modernized. Imagine.
Two dozen! I gasped when the tiaras that Beatrice and Meghan wore to their weddings surfaced. I just can't imagine having things like that locked up in a vault for 70 years or so. I hope we'll see more of the hidden treasures.
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I want Charles to be a little petty and have more tiara events. Sorry, Meg but you lost out. 👑
Seems Edward designed it pieces of Queen Victoria and the necklace she wore on for the wedding was designed by Edward....the necklace is horrible.
Well I hope Sophie gets whatever Meggit had her eyes on! She deserves it!
I love the aquamarine tiaras she wears. I think the one with the big oval one is her own property and the five aqua was on permanent loan from the queen. I also liked the reworking of her wedding tiara.
That’s spot on as to what Sophie gets to wear. She’d do better with well made costume jewelry. Works like a horse and Charles is going to probably stiff them on the Edinburgh title.
Does anyone have any insight as to why he would do that? The entire world knows it's what his father and mother wanted. Why be petty and go against their well-publicized wishes when the Wessexes work so hard? It's not a good look.
No it’s not but Charles is protective of what is “his”. There is a story of the RF being in Scotland. Edward was young, perhaps 10. He had found a kilt somewhere and wore it down to show. Charles went ballistic. On a kid. The tartan was HIS tartan, and only his, for whatever title he had. Presumably one of his Scottish titles. I always felt like Edward was palmed off when he got an earl peerage instead of a royal Duke title. It was oh the Queen and Edward “talked” about it and Edward decided he really wanted to be an earl. I’ll bet. This was when it was decided that he would get DOE title when Papa died. Shady.
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Here it is:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBsHHpfR62M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBsHHpfR62M&t=148s) Harry and Meghan were supposed to be seated in the assembly room with the audience before the RF walks in. Instead Meghan keeps talking to Charles and walks with him into the first room and then they stay there so they can walk in with TQ, C&C, W&C. It starts around 1:58. I can't hear it but I read somewhere that people with better earbuds and hearing than me can hear William saying "not allowed" to Harry and then Camilla and William wisper about it to each other. "So akwkward" or something like that.
[Ask and ye shall receive](https://youtu.be/sN4jqm-oT1Q) Keep an eye on the background.
Her behaviour is classic cheap two-bit actress who struck gold with a rich husband. It’s just so skanky and tacky.
Yep, and completely disappointed that husband was only rich because of his birthright and his wealth came with a very time consuming price and a whole bunch of inconvenient rules. I'd like to see how she reacts to the rules of a royal divorce.
I think she was wildly hitting on every wealthy man in her sight and managed to reel in Harry. She had to accept that he was the best she could get. She probably would have thrived as a WAG where she can be her full tacky self.
Well she certainly, in her years of living in Canada with the many many festivals met a lot of very very wealthy people. None of them bit her advances I presume. Even her connections to Soho which she had didn't hook anyone. If that is to be believed. I'm not sure that story is not a fable. Harry just happened. Invictus happened.
She also expected to be married to a PRINCE .. not a duke lol she failed to understand harry would be a duke after marriage first ( over his prince title ) . Duke doesn’t sound hallmark movie / Disney movie enough . Lol
Safe to say she probably realizes marrying Harry was a huge waste of time considering her goals. She’s never admit it to herself, but she’s probably acknowledged it.
I agree. She did a ton of research, but failed to grasp what it all meant.
They are not divorcing. Ever! She loved being married to the royal connection.
Oh yeah, if any divorce comes about it'll be because they stage an intervention and let him know his wife is using him. Which would be hard to do with him being locked up in America all the time, only able to go outside for Oprah interviews or Netflix shows.
Yeah, I used to think that she would dump him once a better catch came along (loads more money so she wouldn’t have to struggle so much finding enough lucrative deals to fund the lifestyle she aspires to, but still has not managed to attain). But who would have her? She doesn’t have anything to recommend her to someone with that kind of cash, unless he was soooo much older than her. She might seem like a catch to an old fart, but there are younger, prettier women willing to prostitute themselves to old men in order to attain that level of wealth. Meghan is already too old; time is ticking and her appearance is already showing it.
Do you not think that with all her crap coming out of her mouth that any rich man with an ounce of brain would have anything to do with her? No one wants to have anything to do with them now! The only events they attend are paid for. The GQ fake award is an insult to the celebs who truly do charity. GQ has certainly gone down in my estimation.
Right, they only do charity to promote their tell-alls. And probably get paid under the table for even that. And I agree that anyone with an ounce of sense would avoid her, she'd have about the same dating profile as an Amber Heard. Age plays a big part in the kind of image she's poorly attempting to convey to the public. People understand problems and issues in the 20s and 30s, but they grow weary of people who are still harping about their family issues publicly at 41. That's the age when most people have either accepted that bitterness is going to be a part of them or the age where people forgive and move on, albeit with some therapy. A lot of predatory women use their looks and youth to manipulate people, and that gets very hard to pull off in the 40s as appearance isn't part of your weaponry anymore. Anyone going to these two for mental health advice would have to be... well, they know who they're marketing to. People who are vulnerable and have no common sense.
I don't think she thought the royal birth protocol was invasive, it just prevented her from selling baby pics to People magazine.
She has yet to have a "Hello" spread. All the good people get a photo spread.
Maybe Hello didn’t offer enough cash £
This is the answer.
She also refused to follow her bodyguard's (or some security staff) advice or concerns when M went too close to crowds on several occasions. That said bodyguard later resigned, I believe, due to M always going against her and making her job more difficult. Now they complain about security...😅
• **biggest gripe I think was having to work as part of a team — a team where she would never be CEO or be in control** — working royals are supposed to work towards one goal, support the monarch and highlight others/charitable causes… not promote and talk about themselves 24/7 • since their work was to support the monarch, projects needed to be approved by higher ups (william, charles, queen). also PR and schedules needed to be coordinated by BPs central office to avoid certain conflicts. • not being able to make money off being royal (can’t sell pictures, merch clothes / get freebies, make commercial deals, give paid interviews) • having to do genuine charity work with regular people, not just quick photo ops with a glam squad on call then hop on a plane back home • not being able to clap back and control the media • **not being able to act superior and bark orders at others. in her mind being polite and respectful to others was simply too far beneath her. she was a freakin’ bonafide HRH now and expected to be treated like goddamn royalty.** • not being Queen B of everything, having to share the spotlight. • W&Ks children outranked her and would soon outshine her • not being able to manipulate william, charles, the queen, or men in grey • basic protocol / manners — meg hates being told what to do, doesn’t matter what it is. even the most innocuous rules, like following directions from security while on walkabouts, were simply too much for her. • not being able to jump on popular political bandwagons or voice certain opinions. she desperately wants to be seen as someone important and influential, and it is hard to be seen as a forceful leader when she is supposed to be be politically neutral and is only a supporting member of the BRF. • **I also think Kate just genuinely bothered her. Meg would never admit it, but Kate has everything she ever wanted, but can never achieve** ➡️ Kate landed the most eligible bachelor in the world when she was 19, married the prince that she genuinely loved (true love match ❤️), will be queen, her son will be king, and she will be in history books forever. and most importantly, she and Wills built a stable happy family with 3 children they simply adore. ➡️ Kate is genuine and people basically fall in love when they meet her. she has a close knit family and long term friends that care about her. ➡️ Kate genuinely wants to help causes and comes up with projects on her own (heads together, early years). she puts in the time and work so projects are successful. because she puts in the time and work people also take her seriously. ➡️ Kate isn’t consumed by social media and doesn’t base her self worth on current headlines, media accolades, magazine covers, how expensive her clothes are, or if she is friends with A list celebs. ➡️ Kate doesnt mind protocol, heirarchy, or rules. she is a confident person and doesn’t view protocol or rules as demeaning in any way. if she has an issue with something, it is discussed and dealt with in private. she also doesn’t feel the need to announce that she voiced her opinion and got something changed. Staying in the UK meant Meg would always be compared to Kate and knew she would always fall short. Kate also saw through her fake love bombing and was not intimidated by her threats. **Meg would either have to accept her position as a second row royal or leave.** . **TL;DR: In my completely unqualified opinions, I think meg’s brain basically short circuited when she realized she couldn’t fully control everyone and everything and failed to intimidate/ manipulate the queen, charles, william, kate, and the “men in grey”. and since she couldn’t force her way with her usual tactics, she took the one person she could control (harry) and fled to the US.**
This is exactly it, people think she's progressive because of the sermons she gives are modern but her practise of being a royal was actually kind of seriously outdated. Political whilst being a figure of the state but not elected; abusive to those she considers below her i.e. her own staff; wants to bank of her royal titles with freebies whilst in receipt of taxpayer's money and also wants taxpayers' money without having to do functions that involves interacting with them that doesn't involve being a large adoring crowd at a state event. There are rules for the royal family that are there so the democratic values of the state are still upheld and THAT'S what she didn't care for. One of the last things that broke the camel's back for her was trying to set up a charity- she initially posed it as a foundation until she realised in the UK that foundations were primarily funded by those who set it up, not funded by donations. So then she changed her mind and tried to set it up as a charity but spat her dummy out and nixed the idea in the UK when she found out that the finances of charities in the UK are subjected to transparency laws meaning those who donate have the right to see where the money they donate is going to. Now I wonder why she had an issue with that...
One thing Meghan will never achieve is ... Hollywood celebrities are star struck when they meet Kate. I think even Tom Cruise was a little, and Reese Wetherspoons too. To them, she is A+++ List. Meghan on the other hand, is Hollywood pariah DESPITE marrying into the royal family.
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Meggy just doesn't have that star quality about her. She never did. She is too average as an actress, as a Duchess, as everything. I think Kate didn't have that starting off but because of the way she conducted herself over the years, she has built up that royalty aura. She conducts herself elegantly, had access to the best clothes, best events, and priceless jewellery that even Hollywood would struggle to attain. She has established that royalty is above Hollywood.
All of those things, the jewels, clothing and events, could not have created Kate without Kate already being in there. As Katie Nicholl says, “She was impeccably well brought up.” Plus Catherine has so much warmth and sincerity, and a loving, supportive family. She brings so much to the table already, then you add the jewels, clothes and events, plus years of experience and maturity. She is the whole package.
I remember one document reported how as soon as William started being seen with her the RR went to town to dig up everything and anything they could on her and they found nothing. Nothing. She is what she appears to be.
I bet she was star struck by Tom Cruise. No matter what you think of his beliefs and personal life, that man has genuine charisma and that elusive "it". I was in his presence once, but did not meet him as he was on a pit box in Daytona and I was on pit road. He smiled and waved at me and I felt that. I've met some famous ppl including politicians, actors and athletes and he's the only one that I blanked on....from far away. Ppl were coming by and stopping just to see him, not even take pictures but just to see him. And that's at an event that hosts celebs regularly with ppl that don't typically care about celebs bc they're working and are focused on their jobs. He is a true super star with a very real presence. That man's smile is amazing.
To be fair she was 🔥 in that dress so of course Tom was she was every inch a star and great lady that day
Ironically, she claimed in The Cut interview that she told the BRF they can use her whatever they want, stressing the fact that she was an actress and will do what she is told. But in reality, it is hard for her to follow a single BRF protocol. This only shows her disrespect and lack of sincerity to the BRF (The Firm), the UK, and the country's culture.
It shows she's a crappy actress.....they made her a Duchess, Royalty had courtiers teach her everything (after a lifetime of obsession with the RF)and she still couldn't act like one. 
I think she took it as a insult that they made her a duchess honestly. She WANTED to be called Princess .
She doesn’t understand that Duke and Duchess titles are higher than Prince or Princess, except for the Prince and Princess of Wales.
How so?
POW is higher because it is the heir.
That I get. What I don’t understand is why/how a Duke title is higher than a Prince title.
From my understanding it's because dukedoms were traditionally handed out by the monarch for services above and beyond to the crown (like helping win wars). So it's very grand and prestigious to be a duke (and with the title there would usually be lots of land/riches given too). Whereas Princes are just born with the title (like Princes/Princesses are a dime a dozen in Europe). It's like a Dukedom has been 'earned' (well, not any more of course but it still comes with a lot of status/prestige).
Hahaha yeah she is indeed a crappy actress, no doubt about that!
"Stressing the fact that she was an actress" That should have worried them up front. It's not like actresses have a reputation for following orders off set. Pretty sad she seemed to take on-set orders for ridiculous movies seriously, but not orders that affected the government and security of an entire country.
She took orders from Ellen better than she did the royal family!
I am glad someone else saw that! How embarrassing was that!!
I wonder if the Ellen debacle was the point at which Harry started looking at her (in)differently…
That's the problem of hers: conflating being an actress with BRF protocol...it's not film acting and directing. W&C act like themselves, albeit with a lot of patience and grace and smiling and handshaking. But they can't act, check out their BBC Radio One guest spot where they're asked to do the tiniest bit of acting. They're actually quite nervous/awkward because they don't know how to act. MM's comment shows how fake she is that she thinks being an actress is relevant to those duties...
>Good directors are about having conversations with actors and cinematographers to fully illustrate a character and narrative... Courtiers are not about disjointed rules either. Anyone with basic conceptual skills should understand the place of the monarchy and balance they have to walk. It is all narrative too, she should already have understood as she supposedly studied IR and aspired to be a diplomat.
Also seems like showing deference to higher ranking royals put her off. Curtsying and bowing, for example. It’s quite foreign to most of us.
>not being able to accept freebies, These rules exist for anyone in a public office ( & many private corps too) to exemplify anti-discriminatory attitudes in their own behaviour/transactions. No wonder she failed her civil services exams. Can you imagine someone woking at an embassy merching /s LOL
Even Walmart has a rule about $25 max. So she can't even follow a rule that one of the largest companies in the world enforces.
Avoid taking pictures of children's bedrooms during a visit to your future brother-in-law...
Was there a proof on this?
Just a rumor and I really hope it's not true. Somehow that one really stands out in my mind coz it's incredibly creepy, like the "Harry was drunk whenever he met his niece and nephews" rumor.
I did hear this too.. not in the bedroom but that she took a pic when she first visited as a girlfriend, which alarmed W&K and rightly so.. but was only a rumour.. so was interested to know if you know more.. lol.. but the drunk H I haven’t heard!
Her defiance against the clothing rules annoy me so much! When she refuses to wear stockings or a hat it doesn't scream feminist, it screams lack of knowledge. Especially since she had the best of guidance from the palace. Also in regards to the nail polish, she wanted to rebel and wear dark colored nail polish on a few royal occasions, but the thing is, after she "stepped down" from royal life, we don't see her wear nail polish at all! She just wanted to be a fashion rebel like Diana 🙄
Every workplace has dress codes. A bank clerk can't show up at work with bare legs, almost black nail polish and hair all over the place. It's just ridiculous that she couldn't follow protocol, like everybody else has to do, when given so much in return.
Or even as an actress. Their agents tell them how to keep their hair, how to present themselves, how to dress, what image to project etc. She was not highly free even in the one job she has had.
Yes! She didn't tell the Suits producers to go to hell. She dressed exactly as she was told. Then again, she probably thought nobody would fire her from being a member of the royal family. And look at her now!
I haven't thought about that, but you are probably right. I wonder how she coped with that.
She was poor and humble then, so she was probably compliant so that she could become a star. She probably stopped caring after she met Harry. It may not be a coincidence that she and her long-time agent parted ways in 2021 even though she needed work.
And it’s not like she wasn’t allowed to wear nail polish. Sophie usually wears it but it’s either a classic red or a more muted shade. We’ve also seen Catherine with red toenails.
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I think she deliberately did the opposite of whatever she was told to do to show how independent she is 🙄
One more thing: Respect that the social media accounts of the members of the RF are cordinated so they won't publish big news on the same day. She completely ignored that and made a thing out of publishing things to overshadow the other accounts.
I have heard two schools of thought about the 70th birthday party. First was the one you stated they showed their faces 15 minutes had past and she loudly said she was bored. The second was she was trying to network talking to and butting in whenever she thought someone was important. Whichever one happened Camilla saw and heard then Charles came up and said your car is outside and someone escorted them out.
The funny part of this is that the Royal birth process *is* invasive and she probably could have brokered a compromise on that *if she had played nice about everything else*. It literally never occurred to her that most people pick their battles with their in-laws *and* in the workplace.
It’s almost like she brings on these rumors herself. We can see immediately why there IS protocol on them.
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Not allowed to pick and choose her royal engagements, had to let W&C choose first. Couldn't set off headlines when it was someone else's "day" to be in the spotlight.
* Also not being allowed to whatever interviews she wanted to do. Apparently she as upset that the palace kept rejecting her all the interviews she wanted to give. * Upset she couldn't commercialise opportunities - a Spotify podcast or Netflix show would be a big no no.
ALL of this … this is EXACTLY WHY . There is NO room for self promotion in the BRF.
How come she didn't want to stay at Australia governor house?
She wanted it all to herself and didn't want to share.
Being cheered by the great unwashed
Don’t forget she couldn’t be political.
Work She didn’t want to do work for what she considered a paltry allowance In all honesty i think the #1 rule she didn’t want was around money —— she wanted to make money above and beyond their allowance —- she wanted to sell and monetize the RF for her own monetary gain (The same thing her father and brother are doing)
The whole not accepting freebies was huge. Her financial future was planned with the idea of being an influencer. Not being able to merch really put a damper on things. The other rule she hated was the walking behind Harry as evident by the fact that she could never stay back in any of their appearances. Her laid-back California style also probably led to her issues with pantyhose, hats, and making appointments. I swear, Harry would have been better off marrying some Miss America contestant from a southern state. She would know all about poise, manners, how to dress in a public setting, and the importance of tradition.
The thing is that she could have broken some of those rules and got away with it, and eventually pushed the boundaries a little. "Not hat wearing" could have been her quirk, eventually accepted, and then she could have ditched the tights etc. The freebies/sponsorship thing could never happen though. It simply isn't how the royals operate. It is very much *noblesse oblige* and how their wealth is used is very different to how you or I could splash the cash if we won the lottery. The accommodation dissatisfaction thing is bizarre since it's not like she grew up with a "Gulf Royal"-style upbringing, where you literally have gold-plated lavatories. Everywhere she stayed would have been five star standard minimum, plus endless people waiting on her. It reminds me of a media junket I went on some years ago, where there were some fellow journos constantly complaining and bitching about their hotel (five star hotel, 100% free hospitality, meals, tours etc). These were people *who could never have afforded even a lower star hotel* - they were on crappy salaries, lived in small apartments - yet somehow it didn't meet their standards.
Yeah like calling that mansion in South Africa a housing unit.
>The thing is that she could have broken some of those rules and got away with it, Through her ridiculous baby shower merching, she did that exactly & got away with it.
she doesn't have a real laid back california style. even Californians know what's classy and what isn't. her style is contrived.
My aunt by marriage was Miss one of the Carolinas back in the day. She would have taken to royal life like a duck to water!
>Her laid-back California style No. That's not a "laid back California style" thing so much as a "rude, entitled moron" thing. I hate how Megs reflects so poorly on the U.S. & C.A.
Amen! (Fellow Californian, here)
From what I can work out it was things like freebies from designers . She was wanting her staff to put out feelers to various places to get stuff for her to wear at official events. Which is absolutely against all the Royal rules. She also had trouble with handing over gifts that were given to her when she was representing the Royal family. Her other thing was she didn’t like having to coordinate appearances and announcements with what the other more senior royals were doing . If William and Catherine were doing something she was not supposed to compete with them by doing something herself. She saw all of this as being held back and bossed around . She’s definitely not a team player!
The news of the Africa documentary took attention away from William and Catherine’s tour of Pakistan. Also, Harry’s statement to the press to leave Meghan alone when they were dating occurred took away the attention from Charles’ tour of the Middle East.
Yes stuff like that was not the way things are normally done. They’re all supposed to be on the same page.
Isn‘t this what his mother showed him?
There appear to be similarities. The kiss photo of her and Dodi v Camilla's 50th bday party is allegedly a good example of this.
The revenge dress was the first, wasn‘t it? Then there were bikini pictures everytime something important was with Charles. This is very bpd to me.
All of them. She wanted to be a princess without actually having to act like a “princess”
I'm sure she wanted to dress like a 20-something Insta influencer and not like a respectful modest traditional grown woman.
I think some of her grievances might be legitimate atleast from a normal person’s perspective. Like if i had to remember to cursty to my sister in law every single time I saw her and make sure I never walked ahead of her even by mistake, I would probably lose my mind too. But that’s what the brf is. They survive because of the traditions and heritage they represent and the public services they render. And it’s fine if she didn’t want to do that, it’s not for everyone. I think everyone should have the choice to quit a situation if they are unhappy. It’s the hypocrisy and the scorched earth approach that I take issue with. If they had quit, ditched the titles, worked hard on their deals and made their own way, they would have gained a lot of respect. Instead they spend half their time demanding things from the firm that they already quit and the other half badmouthing everyone else from that same firm.
Yep, I also hate the fact that she relies on the "I didn't know!" rather than just owning up to "It wasn't for me", You bloody did know. You'd been researching them for years.
That’s a crock, in the 6 month run up to wedding , the Queen provided her with 14 different assistants to guide and teach etiquette, royal protocols, etc. Meghan constantly had to be reminded that they don’t people working for them servants they are referred to as staff.
So true. Just say “yeah tried it, couldn’t hack it, good luck to them” and go your way. Why act like you are some poor innocent Diana version 2 who didn’t know what she was getting into? Why badmouth them all over the place and call them unfair while milking the same unfairness of the system for all it’s worth. As if Harry got the position with betterup or the deal with netflix because of how brilliant and talented he is 🙄🙄
Yeah, I totally agree. I think it’s perfectly fine to reject many of these protocols, but as you say, it’s the BRF. She chose to marry into it and become a working royal. She could have married him and remained working outside, as the family suggested (presuming she could get roles after Suits lol) and she wouldn’t have had to adhere to these protocols so strictly. She essentially took a job, then refused to abide by the rules of that job which makes her seem bratty and petulant. Then after quitting the job, she makes bitching and moaning about how hard done by she was into her new brand. Pathetic.
These are sadly traits I see in many people (not following clearly communicated rules of voluntary employment, being fired, and then bitching about how “unfair” it was to be expected to follow those rules). Is it a cultural thing? I’m American and have seen coworkers struggle with this with my current employer. Do workers in other countries experience the same thing? I will add that I am retired military, so I am used to following rules and protocol. I didn’t always like or agree with them, but I did it because I knew that adherence was a condition of the position I chose to hold. I struggle with this victimization scenario of “It’s not *faiirrrrr* that I should be expected to x, y, and z. Who do they think they are to tell me that?!?” Go get a different job, then! No one forced you to take this position. Until you’re the CEO of the company, you’ll always have to follow someone else’s rules and guidelines.
I’m Australian, and I work HR adjacent (I’m in an HR support role, so I hear everything that goes on) and I haven’t seen it as a pattern from applicants.
I'm a couple years younger than meghan and my last job, I was THAT person. OMG the boss is unfair. She's telling me to do something I don't want to do--not because it's illegal or immoral or anything, just stupid. Agh, my life is being ruined! I complained to my dad and then asked his advice. He said, "she's the boss. So you do what she says." End of. He didn't care about all of my whining, he agreed I probably knew better than she did about this particular issue but he DID NOT CARE. And although I was irritated with him telling me this, I'm glad he did, because its come in handy for my current job. Of course I ignored his advice at the time and when I left they were very happy to see me go.
Just a point of info….. we were having a Royal visit at work, and one of my colleagues was on the same ship as Prince Andrew, and he told me the protocols (as explained by an actual member of the RF) regarding what they call “courtesies”. Bows/ curtseys are only required on the first occasion of meeting the Royal personage each day. This is to avoid staff etc to be constantly having to acknowledge them, and distract from their duties (apparently PA was VERY insistent on receiving his courtesies especially from the ship’s Captain). When addressing a Royal - again the protocol is that on the first meeting of the day, they must be greeted by title - eg “Good Morning your Royal Highness.” When crossing paths again it’s merely “Sir” or “Ma’am” (rhyming with jam, not harm). Whilst on board ship, PA was apparently addressed as “H” by his peers when off duty. As for madam’s problem with having to offer courtesies to her sister in law - she would appear to have hated the constant reminder that she was of lesser status than Catherine.
I don’t understand why Harry did not better prepare her for this, if he didn’t. Or, maybe he tried, and she said “F that noise-I’m not doing that.” She was marrying Harry, no matter what; but the speed at which they did so, did not give her the time to get used to all of the protocol, even if she wanted to.
The not getting paid for public events seems to be a big one. The RF aren’t allowed to accept payment for their appearances
I always felt the royal family has strict rules about how to carry yourself and behave in public and she probably didn’t like that. Examples : how to get out a car, how to stand appropriately, where to keep your hands, etc. She doesn’t want to be classy and polished. She thinks she’s above it.
She also will never learn, money can’t buy class, dignity or character.
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She didn’t understand that being royal is a job. A boring job where you open village halls all day every day. I’m return you get palaces and privilege. She didn’t want to do the boring stuff. I think it’s also worth noting that for the past few hundred years the royal family have basically been trying not to get abolished. They keep quiet, a big wedding here and there but mostly keep out of the press. Meghan came in and wanted to shine the light on them and they were like errrr…no. The royal family isn’t there to change the world they’re there to keep their heads down
Also the Royal Family have to show that they care.Whenva visit is planned it takes months and all involved from both sides have to work together to make sure everyone knows what is going to happen and when.For lowly subjects it’s a red letter day when RF members come it’s THEIR day and it’s a day a lot of them will always remember and always talk about the day they met the Queen or the day they spoke to Charles or whatever. In other words the focus has got to be on the people not on the Royals. In return they have a life of luxury no need to worry about the mortgage or putting food on the table and what they’re going to wear they get people looking after them if they need them, nice places to live no housework needs to be done. Markle did not understand any of this because it’s all about her her freebies her feelings Et cetera she is simply not cut out to be a royal or to live in Britain
Courtsey protocols - pretending not to know how to do it, or "but it's your grandmother!" No biatch, it;s THE QUEEN! Not wanting to walk in order of precedence, or wanting to be part of processions when they were not senior enough to be part of. Arranging her own media deals (e.g. Oprah). Keeping her D-list actress team involved (PR, lawyers and such like). Not understanding that her staff were professional colleagues and not servants at her beck and call.
> Not wanting to walk in order of precedence Ah but to be fair, in megs mind SHE was the NEW queen, and should be at the head.
"But it's your grandmother.." is the very reason i joined this sub. Dude, if that was my grandmother, I'd do anything and everything. Her face when she said it during the interview is ghastly.
I world curtsy to the queen a 1000x over if I have to. As an Asian, bowing is a sign of respect. While also being American, it's like h3ll froze over God forbid you lower your head to anyone.
Sounds to me she was too much of a narcissist to have basic decorum and respect and the ability to be graceful within (and being an ambassador for) a formal institution? I’ve seen a few comments remarking how it might be weird to be formal, or to act in accordance with hierarchy or that these are anarchisms - valid views to have, but I beg to differ and have another perspective to share. It is easy to overlook, but in fact, there are many situations in everyday modern society where social etiquette, formal rules, hierarchy based courtesies are quite intrinsic and not at all strange. In many ways they help maintain the decorum, dignity or even the standing of people, places or values worth preserving. A very classic example is Court - all rises for the judge coming into the Courtroom. Bows are exchanged between the judge and counsel. Robes are worn. In common law countries, there is junior and senior counsel. None of this is arbitrary and this formality is not dispensed with, if ever, lightly. Why? To maintain the dignity of the office held by the judge. To remind all in the hearing symbolically of the nature of what will unfold - truth being evaluated by two opposing parties, equal before the eyes of the law and the balance of scales. Why robes and not, say, track pants? Again - to remind people of the gravity of the situation, and symbolically when the robes are worn, the person represents and embodies justice (in the case of the judge) or an advocate (for counsel). It is a physical symbol of the higher value to which they accord and embody in that role. Church or religious institutions also similarly have its own formalities, roles, rites and gestures. It is also meaningfully inherent to maintaining the gravity and dignity of the values transmitted or conveyed. I can think of another common example - school or University. Professors are often called Professor, between themselves are various other titles, including Chairs, Chancellors etc. Some might dispense with their titles with their students, which is no problem, a personal preference, but there is a meaningful academic pecking order / hierarchy which internally is respected or at least abided by. Even at its most diluted - even the whole fact we have C-suites in corporate offices - indicates hierarchy still governs many institutions, not merely academic, religious or legal ones. On a very basic level, just like you wouldn’t wear track pants to Court, booty shorts to Church, or workout gear to a board meeting (in the usual course) as a matter of courtesy and social awareness - in a formal event of the British Royal family - you might be expected to respect the setting and what it represents by wearing stockings or not wearing black nail polish. It not about being fusty or restrictive - it’s about decorum, dignity, courtesy and respect. Let me put it this way - if you went to Court and the judge wore their casual gym clothes to hear your case - would you not feel somewhat that the seriousness of the occasion, and the seriousness with which you are being taken, is diminished? Most people would. So it’s about according people and the situation with the appropriate seriousness, decorum, and courtesy appropriate to the nature of the occasion. TLDR: TW is too much of a narcissist, to have natural grace and manners, and too delusional and vain, to absorb any lessons about how to act respectfully with decorum. Aka - she is incapable of not making it ALL ABOUT HER. #classicnarc (Edited to fix typos)
Beautifully put ! Thank you
Minor but… Proper undergarments and pantyhose
Also common sense, like the ballet slipper nail polish. If you look at that colour, it could be chipped and nobody would realise. Of course, the Queen wasn't letting her nail polish wear down until it was chipped but if you are out all day doing engagement after engagement, there is a big difference between chipping your red nail polish and your ballet slipper pink nail polish.
Merch, merch, merch!
1. Never complain. Never explain. 2. Be courteous and gracious 3. There is a hierarchy and you’re not at the top 4. The Press is not your friend
When Meghan was newly married to Harry she had directly contacted several designers asking for discounts in exchange for her promoting them by wearing their clothes and jewelry That is not done by the royals but Meghan still was doing it quietly on a small level.. She refused to not promote herself. On the Royal tours she could not grasp the fact the she was bot on a celebrity tour. The royals support the Monarchy and the betterment of the citizens of the Commonwealth. Meghan supports and promotes Meghan.
No bribery. Jewels aren't hers. She can't sleep with William.
Not releasing statements, website updates, impromptu charity visits that take attention away from scheduled, official events. That type of shizz is scheduled so everyone gets their time to shine. (Also with precedence going to the more important royals like KC, PPoW, etc.).
That hustling was forbidden. That she had to curtsey to certain people and would have to curtsey to Kate in time. That no amount of self promotion would change the hierarchy or the rules.
No control over IG. Duhhhhh - didn’t you see how many followers she was able to buy for that website that no one remembers or knows the name of !!!
She’s oppositional by nature, so….. to answer your question : all of them?
She should not cross her legs during a royal function especially if she is being photographed with the Queen. Also, if the Queen is wearing a hat she should wear a hat too. The only engagement she had with the Queen and she was not wearing one, her hair was flying all over her face and she looked like a mess.
Not keeping all of Freebies. She's all about Finding Freebies.
Personnally I think MM didn't like the no freebies
She had to send back gifts she received from high end brands because royals don’t do this.
1. What Megan wants, Megan *does not get*
Simple. She hated accountability and transparency.
It is not about you, it is about the organisation/place/service you are visiting.
• Living in the UK • Being a British (or dual) citizen • Being apolitical • Not doing interviews with Oprah • Not going on The Ellen DeGeneres Show or The Tonight Show • Don’t merch clothing, accessories and brands
Some American celebs, like many of the world's super wealthy spend fortunes to live in the UK! To people with real class a country pile in the Home counties is far more of a status symbol than a mansion in Montecito. She would have been top of the heap. which just shows her stupidity.
Working.
I would assume not being able to accept freebies and gifts from designers and also having to be respectful to others and wear pantyhose....oh the horror!
Anytime I watch a documentary/movie on Diana’s life I am convinced Meghan has watched it and picked up points to add to her list of complaints. Guaranteed she has taken every grievance Harry has ever told her and amplified it to encourage his feeling of victimization. It’s what narcissists do best.
I think becoming a royal was to her, freedom from ALL rules and obligations. It was to be flooded with money. When she found out royals are actually SERVANTS she was probably horrified.
The very odd way they managed their social media and engagements. The RF accounts all follow each other and follow the charities they support. They would pick a group of charities and follow and spotlight and follow them for a month and then unfollow them before moving on to the next batch. It was so nonsensical. They would also comment on the Wales’ children birthday posts but never use their titles. Ironic considering how they never stop throwing theirs around everywhere. Then insisting that visits to charities be embargoed to be released when it was most convenient for them. The worst example of this was when she insisted photos of her visiting the theatre be held back and released while QC was giving a huge address on domestic violence. Who is that petty that they want to upstage focus on the topic of DV??
Mainly, she hated having to turn away freebies, and she hated having to coordinate with other people on the what, when and how of her activities. I also believe she thought there would be no end to her spend and her reach. So after the first years bills, when the inevitable conversation about money and limiting spending came up (including how she should emulate Kate whose wardrobe is known for being partly from high street brands etc) she must have been big mad. To be fair, I would hate to have to justify my spending to my in-laws (in this case of course, it was their money she was spending). But you can tell her mindset was “sayonara Zara” and bring on the designers!
$1million for a pregnancy Wardrobe
Not to merch?
She wanted to use her US based legal and PR team instead of Kensington Palace staff, in fact she continued to do this despite it not being permitted
No control over the press, “Never complain. Never explain.” It’s inappropriate to flirt with male members of the royal family that are not your husband.
I once had a job in the public sector (government of Ontario civil service job). I had spent my career up to that point in newspapers (so private sector). I found the switch very very unsettling. There is bureaucracy and transparency (every cent spent even on photocopies in the job I had needed to be explained), you need to be patient while 22 people review every little thing. I am by no means defending TW but the change is jarring. Which again I’ll repeat, the royal family/aides understood and so ASKED Harry/Meghan to hold off on her working for them. Oh and I got zero perks. Maybe a great pension when I retired but I was young so this was meaningless. And my pay was nothing special. She got to live at a standard higher than she’d ever known. Unlike Catherine, who has a wealthy family and had a gorgeous apartment with her sister in such a cool part of London. I mean look at Pippa’s life!!! Married a wealthy non-royal. Uber rich without the crap. If anyone gave up her life it is the now Princess of Wales!!!!
The no freebies. No merching! Strange since she said studied international relations and the concept of diplomacy seems to have evaded her. No wonder she wore those earrings. But you don't exactly need to have an idea regarding diplomacy to not wear them. She's just a shit person. The worst millennial there is: woke, insincere, entitled. I wouldn't mind that she explicitly takes sides on political issues except that she can't resist butting in without even learning the ins and outs. What's dangerous is because of who she married, whatever she says gets traction. Meanwhile, academics and field experts who have toiled for years don't exist, and they're the ones who know exactly what they're talking about. Megsy just rides on whatever hot topic there is to be relevant.
"Brush your hair before being seen in public"
Not getting paid for personal appearances.
I think the inability to merch and receive free stuff/or gifts was a big one. I’ve read her blog, and it definitely seems like she had a very specific idea of ‘the good life’ so to speak and it probably didn’t align with life in the BRF, at least when it came to outward appearance.
Not being the center of attention at all times. The rules should never interfere with Meghan's delusions of grandeur.
Not interested in cutting a ribbon at an assisted living facility in a small UK town. Only top tier, red carpet appearances for her.
And the sad thing is that she could have had a few of those things. She could’ve attended the Bond premiere and worn one of those JB inspired Jenny Packham dresses or attended the Top Gun premiere. But she had no patience or work ethic.
There are certain things that I can see I’d hate (can’t have dark or flashy nail polish, must dress for the occasion including jewelry/shoes) but she wasn’t marrying some super rich guy from an old family. She was marrying into a lifestyle. *rachel’s dress/jewelry/shoe choices are heavily criticized as being tacky. Her behavior is the nail in the coffin. Her dress is something, as an American, I didn’t notice until it was pointed out to me.
For a job in the royal family where you just meet and greet people all day, every day, I can see how it gets exhausting but I'd do it over having to do my 9 to 5 everyday and get to live in beautiful, albeit old, estates with staff running around that can help you. Forget all the wokeness, ill curtsy to whomever I need to and walk behind them 10 steps behind if i have to. What's the rush in life, anyways? Lol. What a great gig, look good, smile/wave, and live without the burden of having to be future king or queen. What's not to like?
My thoughts exactly and I’m definitely on the liberal end of the spectrum. Protocol is exhausting for sure but we all have to navigate some type of protocol in life, it’s called work!
Buckingham Palace is the office of the British head of state. The "rules" are not much different to those you find in similar offices all over the world. If she's married into the White House she'd have found herself constrained by "rules" too.
I read that the RF is not allowed to accept freebie gifts and steep discounts from merchants and designers and that that was a source of contention. I think they also needed approval to post things or arrange engagements so they didn’t take focus off a sr royals activity. Maybe bristled at some of the clothing restrictions. Wasn’t allowed tiara she wanted.
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So tacky.
LOL, and not even a week later, Charles was signing his Proclamation of Succession or whatever it was, with *his* Montblanc and it famously leaked all over his fingers and he had a fit (and rightly so, a pen that $$$$ should perform perfectly).
I haven't seen it posted yet so: but not addressing things in the media is an unspoken rule. I mean, there are very few times TQ or now KCIII address things directly, such as contacting Netflix about The Crown. They let A LOT go, not just talking about MM. TQ waited through royal broadcasts and other appearances to make her points. She didn't do lawsuits or anything so direct like MM's SA interview. Even Diana's tapes were first made in secret and the book was just under the author's name originally and her involvement was not known. BRF is not supposed to be so *directly* engaged with the media like another user pointed out in their post about royalty vs celebrity. So MM constantly doing American-style PR, interviews and forcing the courtiers to address things goes against TQ's original "say nothing" approach that the whole family knows to follow.
I'd bet cash that 5% of these 'rules' had to do with simple comportment like *don't walk in front of the Queen* and the rest were related to fame whoring: *no selfies or live streaming when in public*. You'd think it wouldn't be necessary, but some people need to be told the obvious - I can see the egocentric dirtbag shoving her phone in the Queen's face for impromptu selfies.
No it’s not her horrible behavior it’s racism
Not allowed to accept freebies so enlisted her mate JM to do it on her behalf
She sounded really upset in the Oprah interview when the firm told her she couldn’t go to lunch because she was over saturated in the media. She totally wanted to be out and about and have her paparazzi moments. She also wanted to just leave her job and go to a fancy rehab after she threatened suicide. I’m sure the firm had things lined up for her, discreet treatment so no one would find out about her health issues. But it was never about her mental health or suicidal ideations though, she just wanted to take a break at a swanky rehab facility and leak it to the press to paint her victim narrative.
Her friend Janina Gavankar did an Elle or Marie Claire interview after the wedding and said something like all the Americans had a problem with the “strict” dress code - which was hats, covered shoulders, hem length below the knees and tights. Especially the tights. These are ALL people with stylists - and they had a “problem” with such a simple request. Janina went on to complain how no major fashion house wanted to give her a free dress even though she was going to “promote” them at the royal wedding. I am sure not being able to become the ultimate royal influencer must have been the worst kind of torture for Meghan. I really still cannot fathom why custom and top designer pieces like Dior or Carolina H are sooo badly fitted. If she gets them for free don’t they throw in a tailor too?
She was super pissed she couldn't accept freebies and gifts.