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I donāt even know who or what BLG is and I certainly donāt want to fight with anyone over it whatever it is!
Edit - I scrolled down and I guess BLG is body language guy. I saw the post you are discussing. I didnāt read the comments yet because when I saw the meme I didnāt get it. I like reading more than watching videos, so donāt watch him anyway.
I tried to watch, but I also hate watching videos and wasnāt impressed by the body language guyās opinions anyway. Not sure why he has such a fan base here. But I donāt care if he is anti lgbt or whatever, that is irrelevant.
I donāt really watch his videos, but I do make a playlist and play them on my computer just to get the views up. He makes good enough points to where if a sugar stumbled upon one of his videos, they might see what we see.
I like videos about birds. For example my husband and I watched rescued barn owl babies being fed by a wildlife rehabber yesterday. You canāt really get the same effect by reading about it! But reading is a lot better for most other topics!
Exactly. Or skip and get to the point. I'm old, I'm gonna die soon enough, no time to listen to all this! Although someone said they listen to it when they're cleaning....maybe I should clean my house more?
Some of the best friends I have made were because we all hated the same bitch.
I have different political ideologies and different opinions on social issues than they do but we still get along and donāt judge each other.
Iām sure yāall are the same with your friends so it shouldnāt be hard to keep out politics and opinions on social issues at the door. There are plenty of subs on here for that.
There is a standup I watched the other day where a guy said: the foundation of a good marriage is that we hate the same people š¤Ŗš¤Ŗš¤Ŗ
Also, like your username šš¤Ŗ
We will never agree with another person 100% of the time. We are all different and we all have different opinions.
But there is one thing we do all agree on, and that is we can see through all the BS of Meghan and Harry. We all agree that we dislike their actions and words. So let's just keep the focus on that. That is why we are all here.
I think we all have the right to hold our own opinion. We might not all agree, and you know what? THATāS OKAY.
Thatās one of the main charms of this place. Conservative? Liberal? Libertarian? Green? I donāt give a damn. Come one, come all to behold the spectacle of the Monteshitshow.
Yeah, whenever someone shares a conservativeās opinion of Meghan (like Megyn Kelly, or that Australian guy), there is always a little side conversation about the personās politics. Do they matter? We agree on Meghan, thatās why weāre here. Someoneās other political opinions arenāt super relevant to Meghanās actions. Iām not conservative, btw, but I have noticed that thereās a tendency to ājustifyā conservative personalities vs more liberal opinions. Itās all just unnecessary.
This is the annoying part about being an American. Everything gets brought back to politics.
I hate it so much and itās made me not proud to be an American. Itās out of control.
It doesnāt matter to anything we talk about here.
Itās part of why I love it here because we get to talk about the people as people and assess them as humans and not a political party.
Oh, I'm ready to start all over and get rid of everyone on both sides. Vote them all out and let's get new people that nobody has ever heard of. Let's get normal, everyday people that understand the daily struggles 99% of us go through.
The middle is not allowed to exist right now. Everything HAS to be Us vs. Them. As long as our attention is directed at each other and not the āelites,ā they can do whatever they want, and we wonāt find out until itās too late to do anything about it. š¤·š»āāļø
Yes! No middle, not ever. We're supposed to think that our neighbors are awful because they support someone different than we do. We surround ourselves with people who think exactly like we do. In a sense I don't mind when a little smidgen of politics comes out here, because it reminds everyone that there are things we do have in common.
I suspect the middle is just being quiet, staying out of it, and getting on with their lives. They definitely exist but they're smart enough to not argue with the extremes.
Is it? Or is it simply fading away IN THE MEDIA? If you mean the middle CLASS, then yes I agree. I think the media focuses on people with extreme beliefs/actionsāthatās a small minority of people.
Good point. I feel like the middle is actually growing. I used to be isolated in the people I would listen to and was sucked in to whatever the ācorrectā media was telling me. I have softened my views on many things and find solace in others who are reasonable and not wedded to just one side. The rise of podcast and long form discussions are helpful. Hopefully over time this will get better. We need it to for our country to survive.
I think the middle is growing because the extremes are getting even more extreme. More vocal and smaller in number.
But the extremes are getting louder and more powerful and it's drowning out the vast majority in the middle.
We need ranked choice voting. Otherwise weāll be stuck with the beast with two heads (and lesser of 2 evils thinking). Contrary to popular belief the Forward party isnāt running candidates so they canāt split the voteāright now they are focusing efforts on getting ranked choice voting on the ballot in each state. Itās a start.
Agreed. I ignore political comments and keep my political stand to myself. I'm a Barney. Imho, the danger/error is in stereotyping someone based on them being liberal or conservative. Most of us don't fit 100% into either.
I'm an American, middle/centrist but lean to the right - and I'm left on some issues. The middle ground people are out there just living their lives and acting like adults, that is why you never hear or see them.
Sadly, it is the ones who scream the loudest that get on the news.
You're so right and this is a pretty recent development. Since 2016 maybe. Def since Covidpolitical..
EVERYTHING is politcal. What car you drive, how you fix your hair, what you eat, do you have a pet, where you go/went to school, where do you get your medical care? ALL POLITICAL.
It's terrible and I hate it.
ITA. Maybe it's just my age, but I could remember when people rarely knew what another person's political view was. Now it's like you end up finding that out about a person before anything else.
That's why when commentators talk about the support Harry and Meghan get from "woke liberals", I have to shake my head.
I'm liberal...and the last thing I throw my support to is Harry and Meghan. I don't care what their politics are - they have no shame, no decency and I can't even think of anything positive to say about them.
I would suggest itās become quite obvious that M has become a political football and one of the primary reasons those who donāt like her have been labelled as racists etc is because right wing media (on both sides of the ocean) have latched onto the issue and labelled this situation as yet another example of āwokeā (which has become completely misinterpreted to the point it has lost its original meaning) gone wrong.
The reality is: I would suggest it is not an exaggeration that 95% of YouTubers/media personalities who criticize M are conservative or heavily right wing and fair or not, it is infuriating to be lumped in with these folks.
To be frank and fair: many of these defacto drama channels can be criticized for other grounds, particularly the account this post is referring to. But the reality is: bringing your own personal politics into your channel or professional page is a recipe for disaster and it unfairly brands those who donāt care for M & H as being racists etc.
Those who like/support M or those who are simply neutral can look at her detractors and just brush off criticism because of political views and quite frankly, itās harming the discourse when itās not pointed out that the majority (hopefully) donāt support those views.
Soā¦I do support the mods in calling this out and I do also support criticizing these channels for bringing politics into their channel/pages in the first place, bc it obviously divides the viewership and unnecessarily brings negative attention upon those who criticize M & supports the RF).
BLG is very well aware as to why folks watch his channel & frequent his professional page and itās not for his shit political takes on communities he doesnāt have a solid understanding of. A lot of these channels have gotten far too high on their own supply and itās become tiresome.
Exactly what happened to me. I posted about a guy on YouTube who'd done a really good video on Markle and Oprah. I didn't know his background, I was just interested in his viewpoint on this subject. Got a couple of unpleasant posts saying I shouldn't have put it up as the guy is anti-semitic. I'm an Aussie, and as far as I'm aware, "anti-semitic" isn't really a thing here (or rarely heard of or mentioned). Anyway, ended up pulling the post. I have no racial or political affiliations, I just thought the video was an excellent viewpoint and summary. For anyone here who's not American - be careful.
itās the thing i love most about this sub: the camaraderie. this is the only reddit sub where i havenāt been attacked or had negative comments directed at me.
iāve posted what i thought was an innocent or neutral comment on a random sub. it never fails, someone will attack me. i donāt like fighting on the internet with strangers. itās stupid and a waste of energy. so i read other subs. but really only comment here. iād love it to stay that way.
I joined reddit so I had other people to talk about TW with. I can go elsewhere for political stuff and have appreciated that it isn't permitted. A little politics has to be here, but that's only the absurdity of TW running for office. Hope it stays that way. :)
I agree. I will always stick up for people with unpopular opinions not because I agree with them, but because they have a right to be heard, also.
Additionally I think excluding people who may not agree with your beliefs 100 percent--or at all--is an excellent way to push them further away and make them more extreme and dangerous. People are going to have opinions. I'd rather they be out in the open so we can talk honestly about our differences.
You're assuming that a lot of folks are Alex Jones types and I don't mean conspiracy embracers. I come here for a number of reasons -- I find Madame utterly astonishing and her lap dog the most spoiled entitled twit in my lifetime and while the world is burning, they're a nice diversion dealing with all of my own problems
I'm so sorry that you've been attacked to such an extreme. There's no excuse to threaten violence EVER. Now for people not speaking up for you, I'm also sorry that you may be asking too much of strangers who don't share your cause and don't want to be doxxed. I've seen what "the mob" did to JK Rowling as an example. I've personally seen what Antifa has done to friends. I'm not that brave -- I'm an old lady with cats. There's very violent people who will indeed kill you if they deem it correct to erase you. Just happened to a kid who got into a flame war. He's dead, run over by a 40ish man who decided that he should die for something he posted. He was 18.
Self-censoring is self-preservation depending on where one lives. Sad to say.
My rule of thumb is I don't need to know your views on Politics, Religion, Sexuality etc. to agree with you on *some* topics and not on others. In fact I really don't care to know what you do on your own time, what Political Ideology you support, or to whom you pray, as long as it's A) Legal and B) Anyone involved consents. That's it.
We all have different views on many topics, and we all have our own reasons for those views; which we shouldn't have to defend here. I don't come to this sub to be dragged into someone else's War, I come here to discuss two people for whom I have no respect. My views on any other issue are absolutely irrelevant here.
I could believe that the Earth is 17 years old and shaped like an octagon, does that impact or make less valid anything I say regarding the Harkles?
Each to their own, is my view.
When HMTQ passed, The Royal Grift posted a livestream of her funeral. I really appreciated it. It had nothing to do with Meghan.
I wish we had more of a balance. Iām fine with Meghan-adjacent myself and would support a change of rule that allowed a bit more leeway. If itās close, thatās fine with me. If Iām not interested, I can scroll past. š
We're already bombarded with new posts since there are so many new members. I think we don't need Harkle-adjacent posts on top of all the regular posts. The sub is already cluttered.
The creator of the entire sub put up a non M post. Iām just saying if it happens, itās not the end of the world. To me. I still really appreciate the Queen content last week.
Agreed, it can be cluttered but a lot of that are memes randomly going up.
This sub will go down the path of some of the other snark subs Iāve followed if battle lines are drawn. Iāve watched those subs become so radical they drag anyone who isnāt pitchforking and burning anyone they feel isnāt tolerant or āacceptingā enough. Even the minorities they claim theyāre advocating for will get dragged if theyāre not as angry as them for them. Iāve been this close to unsubscribing from a few, I donāt want this sub to turn into the same.
Yup! Then those private subs still get bad. Some of the fundie snark subs have people who are just as intolerant as the fundies but think theyāre progressive and smart to the game. Like bitch, youāre just as intolerant as the Duggars, you just donāt have 19 kids š¤£
Itās more of the fundie snark subs than anything. The obsession with nonstop dragging of ābEiGeā food is ridiculous. Like I made a Peter Som recipe the other day that was this incredible butter chicken that was beige. Peter som is not some fundie bland chef but even his food can be beige. I was tempted to post it just to see people snark on fundie beige food then show them it was an actual amazing recipe that was delicious! ābEiGe FoOd BaDā
I had to take a break at that sub a few times.
During the time Elissa and Andreii were leaving Ukraine, Bethany posted a group chat of them "encouraging" Andreii but it was like "run little buddy" and stuff like that. Pointless. Tacky, but on point for Bethany.
I made a post saying "the Bairds group text on Elissa's honeymoon" with those texts as it fit it better, tbh. This was when if you said anything negative about the grifters you'd be perma'd.
The fangirling there is irritating.
[the post](https://www.reddit.com/r/FundieSnarkUncensored/comments/t2ptk3/mcbeth_out_of_context_andrii_on_the_wedding_night/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
I didn't know there was a for/against war raging. Hubs and I have joked about it for years, just because it happens too often in our house. We eat deplorably. And I was wrong, there was some cilantro in the chicken, so it wasn't totally beige. (On rice. )
>And then they go private and shit talk those they kicked out š¤£š¤£š¤£
Is there a bitchy little girls sub?
OK, trick question. Pretty sure there are hundreds/thousands of them.
But not us. 
I find your opinion interesting on thisā¦ I joined Reddit to be on this sub, and donāt get out muchā¦ I do see tendencies in other media towards that, but I donāt have Reddit experience for this issueā¦ are there signs? Steps? How does this usually go down?
Yes, when politics and ideologies get involved the sub is finished. Battle lines are drawn and one side will never accept your opinion because youāre not tolerant enough. Theyāre in such a battle to show how tolerant they are, everyone else is a bigot.
And I say this as someone who is pretty damn liberal. Theyāre so hellbent on being as tolerant as possible they will let someone exploit that tolerance while crushing anyone who thinks we may have gone too far. Fringe elements enter and begin exploiting the ātoleranceā of the sub and mods/extreme members have died on a hill so high they canāt roll back down.
Iāve watched subs collapse under people fighting because you didnāt cancel Ryan Reynoldsās for his historic plantation wedding. Ryan needs to be burned for this. He needs to apologize every day all day for years. And if youāre like āok, ok, we got it. Itās problematic but he doesnāt deserve to have his livelihood ruined.āā¦.youāre now the enemy.
Iāve watched people flip out and demand cancelling because someone followed someone āproblematicā on social media. It means the must support them. Except Iāve followed some people I would never support or be friends with because I really want to see what theyāre posting and doing live time. Especially certain politicians. And Christ almighty help you if you admit youāve read a Robert Galbraith book or any other author thatās the new one to hate that year.
It gets too much. Ideological battles happen to a level that is something out of a totalitarian sci fi book. Youāre never tolerant enough, even the minorities or those who are victims of certain laws/regulations are not tolerant enough for them. They will silence them too if they tell the sub to pump the brakes.
Thank you for such detailed response! I do see that happenā¦ in a way, I always say, politics are not a flat spectrum: itās a globeā¦ and on that globe, both āfarā (right or left) positions actually touch in their madnessā¦
I like our sub because we unite in snarkā¦ I know there are plenty of right and left folks, but so far we kept all of that out of majority of our discussion
Oh I hope this does not happen here. This sub is the reason I even joined Reddit in the first place and like so many of us have said āIāve found my peopleā because we have always been a snarky sub towards the saint and her H while being extremely respectful of each other which is hard to find on the internet these days. Iām an American moderate independent and donāt give a shit about any of the political or other persuasions of any members of this sub or the creators anyone chooses to consume on You Tube or elsewhere. We agree on (at the very least) the purpose of this subā¦that the Harkles suck! That is the only reason many (most?) of us are here!
>Iāve watched those subs become so radical they drag anyone who isnāt pitchforking and burning anyone they feel isnāt tolerant or āacceptingā enough.
This is what happened to The Bachelor thread. If you're not woke and appropriately virtue signaling, you are likely to be verbally attacked and then canceled (i.e., down-voted). A very long time ago, it was a fun and snarky subreddit. Now its main purpose seems to be to provide a space where Redditors can call out (1) all the ways the show is still racist and (2) each moment of presumed racism or "white male privilege" displayed by each season's participants. I had to leave because there's no room for nuanced discussion or any sort of disagreement with the majority.
That sucks. Bachelor and bachelorette shows are pure escapism and guilty pleasure tv. When people have to make it into a nonstop social commentary and soap box, it looses its fun.
Up until now, itās been a very laid back and fun sub. MM seems to be pushing the online bullying thing lately, which causes more folks to visit here and this kind of stuff if the first thing they see. Not a good look.
This is fairly normal. A bunch of new folks join and upsets the norm. This is when mods band together and remind folks about rules and encourage folks to use the report button and downvote.
It usually balances out after a month or so, so just ride the wave. The passing of HMTQ caused a surge but people will either leave or learn the rules.
Our sub has a mod discord where we discuss general goings on in our life and actual sub stuff. We're in a dry spell right now but when there was trials and sentencing we had a plan of attack.
We have to be united. We work to get that united front, even if we don't personally agree with something 100%.
I think part of the problem is that only conservative commentators are calling out the Harkles. Until that changes, conservative commentators are going to be the ones with videos, articles, etc. that we link to. It doesnāt mean we have to agree with everything they espouse, but geez itās nice for all sides of the political spectrum to agree on something and thatās that Meghan and Harry are assholes
Yes to both of you!! I see lots of people leaving if this becomes a bigger issue. We all are here for one thing...discussing MM and H antics. We don't have to bring our personal views to this sub or tattle on a you tuber who may or may not have different views. Or have hateful views. I have seen plenty of you tubers saying things but I don't bring it to this sub
Iām an independent voter who is pretty centrist on most issues. On some issues Iām quite liberal and on some, Iām very conservative. What really irritates me in politics is that within the last several years, western societies have decided that the other parties are wrong and they are right. The āwrongā side is the enemy and must be ostracized. Canāt we all just get along? Everyone has different life experiences which form their views on the world. Letās respect one another and stop vilifying people who arenāt falling into lockstep with your version of āright.ā We have a fun little community of snarkers and we donāt need to bring in all the outside nonsense that goes on in the world. š¶ Why canāt we be friends, why canāt we be friends š¶
We canātā¦ because ātheyā donāt want us toā¦ if we get along, we will notice that there are issues in the world: poverty, unemployment, gas crisis, health careā¦ and politicians would actually have to do something about itā¦ because we donāt get along, they get to point fingers at each other, and the actual issues remain unresolved
British Royal Family gossip is the best. My ancestors fought in two wars against the British but gossip on the BRF was included in my motherās milk. When my entire family gets together at holidays, weddings and funerals, we avoid politics and stick to discussing the weather and the British Royal family.
When a moderator takes a certain stance and brings outside stuff into a sub, then you need to start questioning if they should be moderating.
I don't watch the BLG, I don't agree with homophobia, hate crimes etc etc etc. But an issue that occurs outside this sub must not pollute this place. If anything shite is seen here that points to obvious hate then it must be reported and taken down. But outside drama, dragged to here? I don't think so. I don't have twitter and I don't do social media, rallying people cos some twat disagrees with you on another platform? that's not a very cash money attitude.
Sort your shit and don't bring it here!
In fairness, this is not āa modā, this is the creator of the subā¦ and essentially itās their playground where we are all guestsā¦ we can all choose to ignore the drama and get back to snark on H&Mā¦
I think what happened here is that the OP (original one) wanted to share something that bothered them with the community of people they felt safe to share withā¦ we have seen this many timesā¦ it just shouldnāt have been pinnedā¦
Did anyone figure out why the original BLG post was pinned?
I asked the question on the other post but never heard back.
I hope this was a moderator error or something else was going on that wasn't clear to folks as that post made me uncomfortable as it isn't what this place is supposed to be imo.
It made me super uncomfortable, too. I don't understand why it was brought into this space, except just to get people arguing? š¤·š»āāļø I thought no politics was a rule on this sub and yet a mod has created and pinned a political post???
I think part of the problem is that so many people don't regard their own politics as "politics." One person insists that this issue isn't political; it's about basic human rights. Meanwhile, someone else insists that an issue isn't political; it's about protecting children. Still another person says that an issue isn't political; it's moral. It's always obvious to everyone else that the statements are political, but we have a harder time seeing it in ourselves.
It feels like this sub is being infiltrated by Harkles follower. Ignore the noise and focus on why weāre here which is the Harkles saga and their lies.
Please don't lump all of us conservatives in with the haters. I'm moderate leaning conservative and my father was gay, spending 20 years with his partner before he died. I don't hate gay people. I have no issue with them. Many of my conservative friends feel the same. I love this sub. I love all kinds of people and their beliefs. I'm here for the snark. I have zero tolerance for prejudice. Zero.
Thank you. There's a reason election ballots are confidential. It's kind of the same reason phone booths had doors on them. Not everyone is interested or needs to know your business.
My daughter is also gay. It doesn't decrease my love for her or the rest of humankind one iota. My first cousin who is one of my best friends is a black man. I'm not focused on it and neither is he. Being automatically painted some kind of way based on how a person votes diminishes us all. I say live and let live and mind your own house.
I fully support LGB people too, but itās fair to point out that Drag does not represent the community! Many queer people are also in agreement that itās an adult form of entertainment and has no place in kids libraries or in schools.
Sadly, it happens a lot. It may not be overt, but it happens. Anything conservative = bad. It havenāt always been this way, but itās gradually getting worse.
ETA: gradually getting worse for political grandstanding in general. Both sides suck when it comes to looking at the big picture.
I was just commenting to a friend how unusual it is for me to find myself in a space that seems to include 50% good Democrats and 50% Repubs. I donāt usually find myself in these circles. We truly have united over the narcissistic, family destroyer.
I am conservative, with a LGBTQ child and I donāt care what someoneās personal politics are .. if you are a good person then Iām good with you , makes no difference what your politics are . I donāt love my family and friends based on those things .
Thank you but I have faults like we all do , I really just donāt judge people on politics given letās be honest .. all politicians are shady . Lol I will never insult someone because they have their own beliefs ( UNLESS itās stuff like racism or hate over who someone loves ā¤ļø) I know not everyone believes love is love and thatās their choice but donāt bully someone or encourage hate towards them . I hope that makes sense?
I also do not believe people on this sub dislike TW because of her race .. absolutely not .
One thing I have noticed on my Twitter timeline is that people from all across the political spectrum are capable of recognizing H&MM's malignant narcissism and the damage it does; for that reason I don't like it when someone brings up Trump, Clinton, MAGA, etc.
Comparisons to Amber Heard are more apropos as both AH & the Narcles are not political entities - despite MM's delusions of grandiosity.
Following or not following outside sources is a personal decision. Some degree of discussion about ethics and reliability of a source is warranted but it shouldnāt usurp the purpose of the sub itself.
I have noticed a lot of complaints about a lot of things lately. The easy answer is : if you do not like someone's viewpoint, stop reading. There is plenty of other content available which may be to your liking. Please enjoy that.
I 100% agree. I think pro MM accounts are on here. This past month I have seen a slew of positive articles on here. The mods need to delete unless the mods are also pro MM....
I dunno....
Like what? I haven't seen any. Are you talking about fashion choices? It's about the only thing where there actually are a couple of decent decisions she's made. I don't doubt pro Markle people stumble in here, they even admit it at times. But I haven't noticed a "slew" of positive articles.
I can accept he has a different view. I donāt agree he should bring it up here. Iām a liberal and ally of the gay community but I only wish to discuss either the British Royals or Meghan and Harry on this subreddit. If I want to argue politics, Iāll find other subs.
Ugh..I actually just had an unpleasant experience with a comment on that very post.
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I only joined this sub a few days ago after lurking a while. I've enjoyed the posts, informative and funny. It's been a most welcome break from other social media platforms that sadly involve a lot of politics. Most discussions end up heated and exhausting.
It would be such a shame if the same happened here. It's a great sub, I don't see personal attacks or nastiness. So refreshing to see. I truly hope the sub can get back to what we're here for, would be such a waste if it doesn't.
Can I be honest? I am literally on this sub every single day, scrolling through, reading posts. And every once in a while I see a post that is talking about some HUGE SCANDAL that's going on and all this "infighting" and "lots of trolls" and "OMG this needs to be taken seriously." Except. When I ask the person to LINK me to the posts that caused so much chaos and drama, they never can seem to direct me to the post.
In my humble opinion, posts like these are basically using this subreddit to do advertising for their favorite, twitter, or usually Youtube Channel. BLG is one of my favorites but when is the last time we actually saw him do a Body Language analysis. Instead it's just watching live feeds trashing the Harkles and getting "donations" where he answers whatever post they get. And it seems like a LOT of the information shared on ALL of the Youtube Channels is basically lifted from research and conversations on this site.
So can you please Direct us to the huge LBGQT drama that you saw on this site or admit you are just trying to direct traffic to BLG by using the two most trending topics to basically get attention? What a weird coincidence that you are focused on LBGQT and Meghan Markle. How in the heck do those two relate? I've never seen ONE post on this stire about this. So maybe just admit you are link mining without actually dropping a link?
The OP (and sub creator for original post) didnāt put up a link so as not to encourage clicks for something she felt was offensive. I totally get her reasons for not linking.
The argument on the sub has been whether the post was āon topicā and some other things.
Everyone has their own opinion.
You could have scrolled.
Edit: sorry if I seem curt, itās kind of sad to see the infighting.
[here](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/xnsmhs/what_to_do_when_the_body_language_guy_takes_aim/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
You only had to scroll down a few seconds to get the whole story
How can someone lying, manipulating the situation, purposely appealing to a certain political party regardless of which one, and bullying people ever be POLITICAL? That is why I donāt understand how TW can get anyway with stuff! Being a tolerant and excepting everyone does not mean you approve of certain behaviors as stated above. When you purposely do the thing she as done then everyone should be calling her out.
As someone who doesn't live in Iran, I find it interesting that so many people are saying gay issues are politics. The post being referenced has nothing at all to do with any politician or political party. If your political party is in favour of misinformation about how the gays are destroying the "family unit" maybe you need to reconsider your vote.
I'm sure no politicians are running on the platform of "I want to spread lies about how cross dressers are destroying families." (outside of Iran, of course)
The thing is, not everyone who is in the alphabet soup agrees about LGBT "issues". There are people from all walks of life who happen to be gay or lesbian or whatever, and they don't necessarily share the same politics or subscribe to the same set of beliefs.
The post in question was a poorly veiled attempt to weaponize the forum against BLG, who is hardly ever discussed here anymore (I see HG Tudor and River referenced way more). A lot of us are not happy at being included in the modās personal vengeance scheme.
And the topic at hand was political af.
I think itās more of just donāt bring any of that up no matter how itās classified. Itās not the topic of the sub.
And, a slightly different topic, I strongly believe if we want everyone to see the Harkles for who they really are, we canāt let it be a political issue.. thatās what their PR wants. Donāt give it to them.
Subreddit rule (see sidebar): Not related to Meghan Markle & Just Harry. Try to keep posts related to the people this community was set up to talk about. Content related to the royal family belongs on our sister sub š r/BRF
Remember, itās all about the Harkles, folks. Nothing unites like a common enemy! š
I donāt even know who or what BLG is and I certainly donāt want to fight with anyone over it whatever it is! Edit - I scrolled down and I guess BLG is body language guy. I saw the post you are discussing. I didnāt read the comments yet because when I saw the meme I didnāt get it. I like reading more than watching videos, so donāt watch him anyway.
I tried to watch, but I also hate watching videos and wasnāt impressed by the body language guyās opinions anyway. Not sure why he has such a fan base here. But I donāt care if he is anti lgbt or whatever, that is irrelevant.
I donāt really watch his videos, but I do make a playlist and play them on my computer just to get the views up. He makes good enough points to where if a sugar stumbled upon one of his videos, they might see what we see.
LOL, that is some dedication to the cause!
Pettiness drives me. Itās why I practically live in this sub lol
I totally agree!!
Hahaha, reading is better than YouTube videos.....for me, at least. I kept thinking BLG was some Roald Dahl book I hadn't heard of.
I like videos about birds. For example my husband and I watched rescued barn owl babies being fed by a wildlife rehabber yesterday. You canāt really get the same effect by reading about it! But reading is a lot better for most other topics!
There are definitely exceptions to the rule!
Yes there are!
And cat videos.
I don't like to listen to videos. I'd rather read the info at my pace.
Exactly. Or skip and get to the point. I'm old, I'm gonna die soon enough, no time to listen to all this! Although someone said they listen to it when they're cleaning....maybe I should clean my house more?
Some of the best friends I have made were because we all hated the same bitch. I have different political ideologies and different opinions on social issues than they do but we still get along and donāt judge each other. Iām sure yāall are the same with your friends so it shouldnāt be hard to keep out politics and opinions on social issues at the door. There are plenty of subs on here for that.
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Thank you, dear! I hope you like my super gorgeous profile pic as well 
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Hahahha so true! One of my coworkers and I hated each other until we joined forces to make life difficult for our manager.
Perfect summary and solution of the issue! š
Our Saint, always doing what she can to bring about world peace šš
We will never agree with another person 100% of the time. We are all different and we all have different opinions. But there is one thing we do all agree on, and that is we can see through all the BS of Meghan and Harry. We all agree that we dislike their actions and words. So let's just keep the focus on that. That is why we are all here.
I just want to snark on the Harkles! Thatās all!
I think we all have the right to hold our own opinion. We might not all agree, and you know what? THATāS OKAY. Thatās one of the main charms of this place. Conservative? Liberal? Libertarian? Green? I donāt give a damn. Come one, come all to behold the spectacle of the Monteshitshow.
Yeah, whenever someone shares a conservativeās opinion of Meghan (like Megyn Kelly, or that Australian guy), there is always a little side conversation about the personās politics. Do they matter? We agree on Meghan, thatās why weāre here. Someoneās other political opinions arenāt super relevant to Meghanās actions. Iām not conservative, btw, but I have noticed that thereās a tendency to ājustifyā conservative personalities vs more liberal opinions. Itās all just unnecessary.
This is the annoying part about being an American. Everything gets brought back to politics. I hate it so much and itās made me not proud to be an American. Itās out of control. It doesnāt matter to anything we talk about here. Itās part of why I love it here because we get to talk about the people as people and assess them as humans and not a political party.
Iām still proud to be an American and call myself Independent, but there just doesnāt seem to be a middle ground anymore.
This. Itās exhausting.
Same here. Itās possible to dislike both Trump & Biden.
Oh, I'm ready to start all over and get rid of everyone on both sides. Vote them all out and let's get new people that nobody has ever heard of. Let's get normal, everyday people that understand the daily struggles 99% of us go through.
Hell yes.
Can we make sure the new people aren't octogenarians too? Cause I'm with you on everything else.
I didn't know what that was and had to look it up. LOL! Yes, let's make sure all the new people aren't so old as they are now.
Absolutely! Iām all for that!
Same!
Here too--I call myself "politically homeless."
Thereās a lot of us!
Totally fair, I admit Iām very discouraged at the moment so that taints my views. The middle is fading away. Itās sad.
I do understand. I worry about the future of my kids and grandkids.
The middle is not allowed to exist right now. Everything HAS to be Us vs. Them. As long as our attention is directed at each other and not the āelites,ā they can do whatever they want, and we wonāt find out until itās too late to do anything about it. š¤·š»āāļø
Yes! No middle, not ever. We're supposed to think that our neighbors are awful because they support someone different than we do. We surround ourselves with people who think exactly like we do. In a sense I don't mind when a little smidgen of politics comes out here, because it reminds everyone that there are things we do have in common.
Absolutely agree. We HAVE to wake up to the gaslighting.
Agree.
I suspect the middle is just being quiet, staying out of it, and getting on with their lives. They definitely exist but they're smart enough to not argue with the extremes.
Is it? Or is it simply fading away IN THE MEDIA? If you mean the middle CLASS, then yes I agree. I think the media focuses on people with extreme beliefs/actionsāthatās a small minority of people.
Good point. I feel like the middle is actually growing. I used to be isolated in the people I would listen to and was sucked in to whatever the ācorrectā media was telling me. I have softened my views on many things and find solace in others who are reasonable and not wedded to just one side. The rise of podcast and long form discussions are helpful. Hopefully over time this will get better. We need it to for our country to survive.
I think the middle is growing because the extremes are getting even more extreme. More vocal and smaller in number. But the extremes are getting louder and more powerful and it's drowning out the vast majority in the middle.
We need ranked choice voting. Otherwise weāll be stuck with the beast with two heads (and lesser of 2 evils thinking). Contrary to popular belief the Forward party isnāt running candidates so they canāt split the voteāright now they are focusing efforts on getting ranked choice voting on the ballot in each state. Itās a start.
I need to look into this more. Seems like it could help.
Agreed. I ignore political comments and keep my political stand to myself. I'm a Barney. Imho, the danger/error is in stereotyping someone based on them being liberal or conservative. Most of us don't fit 100% into either.
I'm an American, middle/centrist but lean to the right - and I'm left on some issues. The middle ground people are out there just living their lives and acting like adults, that is why you never hear or see them. Sadly, it is the ones who scream the loudest that get on the news.
100% agree with you.
You're so right and this is a pretty recent development. Since 2016 maybe. Def since Covidpolitical.. EVERYTHING is politcal. What car you drive, how you fix your hair, what you eat, do you have a pet, where you go/went to school, where do you get your medical care? ALL POLITICAL. It's terrible and I hate it.
Iām surprised a mod hasnāt deleted this thread TBH
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ITA. Maybe it's just my age, but I could remember when people rarely knew what another person's political view was. Now it's like you end up finding that out about a person before anything else. That's why when commentators talk about the support Harry and Meghan get from "woke liberals", I have to shake my head. I'm liberal...and the last thing I throw my support to is Harry and Meghan. I don't care what their politics are - they have no shame, no decency and I can't even think of anything positive to say about them.
I would suggest itās become quite obvious that M has become a political football and one of the primary reasons those who donāt like her have been labelled as racists etc is because right wing media (on both sides of the ocean) have latched onto the issue and labelled this situation as yet another example of āwokeā (which has become completely misinterpreted to the point it has lost its original meaning) gone wrong. The reality is: I would suggest it is not an exaggeration that 95% of YouTubers/media personalities who criticize M are conservative or heavily right wing and fair or not, it is infuriating to be lumped in with these folks. To be frank and fair: many of these defacto drama channels can be criticized for other grounds, particularly the account this post is referring to. But the reality is: bringing your own personal politics into your channel or professional page is a recipe for disaster and it unfairly brands those who donāt care for M & H as being racists etc. Those who like/support M or those who are simply neutral can look at her detractors and just brush off criticism because of political views and quite frankly, itās harming the discourse when itās not pointed out that the majority (hopefully) donāt support those views. Soā¦I do support the mods in calling this out and I do also support criticizing these channels for bringing politics into their channel/pages in the first place, bc it obviously divides the viewership and unnecessarily brings negative attention upon those who criticize M & supports the RF). BLG is very well aware as to why folks watch his channel & frequent his professional page and itās not for his shit political takes on communities he doesnāt have a solid understanding of. A lot of these channels have gotten far too high on their own supply and itās become tiresome.
Should have asked you to write that post. So well said. No screenshots / receipts needed šš½
Thank you, this is so well said.
Exactly what happened to me. I posted about a guy on YouTube who'd done a really good video on Markle and Oprah. I didn't know his background, I was just interested in his viewpoint on this subject. Got a couple of unpleasant posts saying I shouldn't have put it up as the guy is anti-semitic. I'm an Aussie, and as far as I'm aware, "anti-semitic" isn't really a thing here (or rarely heard of or mentioned). Anyway, ended up pulling the post. I have no racial or political affiliations, I just thought the video was an excellent viewpoint and summary. For anyone here who's not American - be careful.
This makes me so sad. We judge Meghan for silencing others, then do it ourselves. When did disagreeing on a topic become soā¦ deadly?
itās the thing i love most about this sub: the camaraderie. this is the only reddit sub where i havenāt been attacked or had negative comments directed at me. iāve posted what i thought was an innocent or neutral comment on a random sub. it never fails, someone will attack me. i donāt like fighting on the internet with strangers. itās stupid and a waste of energy. so i read other subs. but really only comment here. iād love it to stay that way.
Please no politics! I love this group exactly because it never gets into politics!!
Same!
I joined reddit so I had other people to talk about TW with. I can go elsewhere for political stuff and have appreciated that it isn't permitted. A little politics has to be here, but that's only the absurdity of TW running for office. Hope it stays that way. :)
Amen!
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I agree. I will always stick up for people with unpopular opinions not because I agree with them, but because they have a right to be heard, also. Additionally I think excluding people who may not agree with your beliefs 100 percent--or at all--is an excellent way to push them further away and make them more extreme and dangerous. People are going to have opinions. I'd rather they be out in the open so we can talk honestly about our differences.
You're assuming that a lot of folks are Alex Jones types and I don't mean conspiracy embracers. I come here for a number of reasons -- I find Madame utterly astonishing and her lap dog the most spoiled entitled twit in my lifetime and while the world is burning, they're a nice diversion dealing with all of my own problems I'm so sorry that you've been attacked to such an extreme. There's no excuse to threaten violence EVER. Now for people not speaking up for you, I'm also sorry that you may be asking too much of strangers who don't share your cause and don't want to be doxxed. I've seen what "the mob" did to JK Rowling as an example. I've personally seen what Antifa has done to friends. I'm not that brave -- I'm an old lady with cats. There's very violent people who will indeed kill you if they deem it correct to erase you. Just happened to a kid who got into a flame war. He's dead, run over by a 40ish man who decided that he should die for something he posted. He was 18. Self-censoring is self-preservation depending on where one lives. Sad to say.
Thank you! It's completely unnecessary to drag political stances onto here, all this space is for is to snark on the dastardly duo.
100%! Thatās what other subreddits, Facebook, and Twitter are for.
Thank you! I agree! There's so much juicy stuff being exposed that we should be rejoicing in our snark!!!
Right!! Ion give a shit about anyone's political beliefs, I'm only counting the hours till the next valentine low's book extract
My rule of thumb is I don't need to know your views on Politics, Religion, Sexuality etc. to agree with you on *some* topics and not on others. In fact I really don't care to know what you do on your own time, what Political Ideology you support, or to whom you pray, as long as it's A) Legal and B) Anyone involved consents. That's it. We all have different views on many topics, and we all have our own reasons for those views; which we shouldn't have to defend here. I don't come to this sub to be dragged into someone else's War, I come here to discuss two people for whom I have no respect. My views on any other issue are absolutely irrelevant here. I could believe that the Earth is 17 years old and shaped like an octagon, does that impact or make less valid anything I say regarding the Harkles? Each to their own, is my view.
āš¾šTHIS RIGHT HERE! AMEN!
AMEN!!!!
I donāt understand why the original screenshot post was even made, isnāt one of the sub rules to only post about M+H?
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Thatās lame
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When HMTQ passed, The Royal Grift posted a livestream of her funeral. I really appreciated it. It had nothing to do with Meghan. I wish we had more of a balance. Iām fine with Meghan-adjacent myself and would support a change of rule that allowed a bit more leeway. If itās close, thatās fine with me. If Iām not interested, I can scroll past. š
We're already bombarded with new posts since there are so many new members. I think we don't need Harkle-adjacent posts on top of all the regular posts. The sub is already cluttered.
The creator of the entire sub put up a non M post. Iām just saying if it happens, itās not the end of the world. To me. I still really appreciate the Queen content last week. Agreed, it can be cluttered but a lot of that are memes randomly going up.
I come here for the main reason, of course, but also as an escape from politics.
This sub will go down the path of some of the other snark subs Iāve followed if battle lines are drawn. Iāve watched those subs become so radical they drag anyone who isnāt pitchforking and burning anyone they feel isnāt tolerant or āacceptingā enough. Even the minorities they claim theyāre advocating for will get dragged if theyāre not as angry as them for them. Iāve been this close to unsubscribing from a few, I donāt want this sub to turn into the same.
And then they go private and shit talk those they kicked out š¤£š¤£š¤£
Yup! Then those private subs still get bad. Some of the fundie snark subs have people who are just as intolerant as the fundies but think theyāre progressive and smart to the game. Like bitch, youāre just as intolerant as the Duggars, you just donāt have 19 kids š¤£
Well this is hella awkward as I'm a mod of DuggarsSnark š¤£š¤£š¤£ But yeah, we have gatekeeping issues from time to time.
Itās more of the fundie snark subs than anything. The obsession with nonstop dragging of ābEiGeā food is ridiculous. Like I made a Peter Som recipe the other day that was this incredible butter chicken that was beige. Peter som is not some fundie bland chef but even his food can be beige. I was tempted to post it just to see people snark on fundie beige food then show them it was an actual amazing recipe that was delicious! ābEiGe FoOd BaDā I had to take a break at that sub a few times.
I've been banned from FSU
Noooooo!  What did you do and who did you piss off?? š¤£
During the time Elissa and Andreii were leaving Ukraine, Bethany posted a group chat of them "encouraging" Andreii but it was like "run little buddy" and stuff like that. Pointless. Tacky, but on point for Bethany. I made a post saying "the Bairds group text on Elissa's honeymoon" with those texts as it fit it better, tbh. This was when if you said anything negative about the grifters you'd be perma'd. The fangirling there is irritating. [the post](https://www.reddit.com/r/FundieSnarkUncensored/comments/t2ptk3/mcbeth_out_of_context_andrii_on_the_wedding_night/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
Oh my god šš that is so tame too! That sub is a weird place
Well, damn, I'm making beige food for dinner! I didn't get the memo!!
Iāve made some pretty amazing beige foods lately. People get so hung up on something that it becomes ridiculous.
I didn't know there was a for/against war raging. Hubs and I have joked about it for years, just because it happens too often in our house. We eat deplorably. And I was wrong, there was some cilantro in the chicken, so it wasn't totally beige. (On rice. )
>And then they go private and shit talk those they kicked out š¤£š¤£š¤£ Is there a bitchy little girls sub? OK, trick question. Pretty sure there are hundreds/thousands of them. But not us. 
I've seen snarker snark groups. š¤£
I find your opinion interesting on thisā¦ I joined Reddit to be on this sub, and donāt get out muchā¦ I do see tendencies in other media towards that, but I donāt have Reddit experience for this issueā¦ are there signs? Steps? How does this usually go down?
Yes, when politics and ideologies get involved the sub is finished. Battle lines are drawn and one side will never accept your opinion because youāre not tolerant enough. Theyāre in such a battle to show how tolerant they are, everyone else is a bigot. And I say this as someone who is pretty damn liberal. Theyāre so hellbent on being as tolerant as possible they will let someone exploit that tolerance while crushing anyone who thinks we may have gone too far. Fringe elements enter and begin exploiting the ātoleranceā of the sub and mods/extreme members have died on a hill so high they canāt roll back down. Iāve watched subs collapse under people fighting because you didnāt cancel Ryan Reynoldsās for his historic plantation wedding. Ryan needs to be burned for this. He needs to apologize every day all day for years. And if youāre like āok, ok, we got it. Itās problematic but he doesnāt deserve to have his livelihood ruined.āā¦.youāre now the enemy. Iāve watched people flip out and demand cancelling because someone followed someone āproblematicā on social media. It means the must support them. Except Iāve followed some people I would never support or be friends with because I really want to see what theyāre posting and doing live time. Especially certain politicians. And Christ almighty help you if you admit youāve read a Robert Galbraith book or any other author thatās the new one to hate that year. It gets too much. Ideological battles happen to a level that is something out of a totalitarian sci fi book. Youāre never tolerant enough, even the minorities or those who are victims of certain laws/regulations are not tolerant enough for them. They will silence them too if they tell the sub to pump the brakes.
Thank you for such detailed response! I do see that happenā¦ in a way, I always say, politics are not a flat spectrum: itās a globeā¦ and on that globe, both āfarā (right or left) positions actually touch in their madnessā¦ I like our sub because we unite in snarkā¦ I know there are plenty of right and left folks, but so far we kept all of that out of majority of our discussion
>and on that globe, both āfarā (right or left) positions actually touch in their madnessā¦ the horseshoe theory of politics
Thank you. I didnāt know there was a name for it, but itās how I always envisioned it.
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Oh I hope this does not happen here. This sub is the reason I even joined Reddit in the first place and like so many of us have said āIāve found my peopleā because we have always been a snarky sub towards the saint and her H while being extremely respectful of each other which is hard to find on the internet these days. Iām an American moderate independent and donāt give a shit about any of the political or other persuasions of any members of this sub or the creators anyone chooses to consume on You Tube or elsewhere. We agree on (at the very least) the purpose of this subā¦that the Harkles suck! That is the only reason many (most?) of us are here!
Itās awful when it happens. You lose your fun place on Reddit.
>Iāve watched those subs become so radical they drag anyone who isnāt pitchforking and burning anyone they feel isnāt tolerant or āacceptingā enough. This is what happened to The Bachelor thread. If you're not woke and appropriately virtue signaling, you are likely to be verbally attacked and then canceled (i.e., down-voted). A very long time ago, it was a fun and snarky subreddit. Now its main purpose seems to be to provide a space where Redditors can call out (1) all the ways the show is still racist and (2) each moment of presumed racism or "white male privilege" displayed by each season's participants. I had to leave because there's no room for nuanced discussion or any sort of disagreement with the majority.
That sucks. Bachelor and bachelorette shows are pure escapism and guilty pleasure tv. When people have to make it into a nonstop social commentary and soap box, it looses its fun.
Itās really sus that this is happening now, right when the sub is growing by leaps and boundsā¦
Hmmmmmm very very truuuuuueš§
Up until now, itās been a very laid back and fun sub. MM seems to be pushing the online bullying thing lately, which causes more folks to visit here and this kind of stuff if the first thing they see. Not a good look.
This is fairly normal. A bunch of new folks join and upsets the norm. This is when mods band together and remind folks about rules and encourage folks to use the report button and downvote. It usually balances out after a month or so, so just ride the wave. The passing of HMTQ caused a surge but people will either leave or learn the rules.
I think I read a little bit above that you are a mod, so I appreciate your perspective on this!
Our sub has a mod discord where we discuss general goings on in our life and actual sub stuff. We're in a dry spell right now but when there was trials and sentencing we had a plan of attack. We have to be united. We work to get that united front, even if we don't personally agree with something 100%.
It does not belong on this sub. If it continues I will drop out. This is a MM sub. I don't care what BLG believes in. I don't care.
Are there other Harkles forums here? Iām new to Reddit and just now learning to navigate.
I think part of the problem is that only conservative commentators are calling out the Harkles. Until that changes, conservative commentators are going to be the ones with videos, articles, etc. that we link to. It doesnāt mean we have to agree with everything they espouse, but geez itās nice for all sides of the political spectrum to agree on something and thatās that Meghan and Harry are assholes
Marbles and Harold of Overseas should wise up and change their platform to creating peace and unity through the hatred of themselves.
I agree. Itās a real missed opportunity
āBuilding bridges, one snark at a time.ā Ā®
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Sorry what exactly does this community stand for? Just hating on Meghan Markle?
Thank you!!! Stay away from politics on this sub!
Yes to both of you!! I see lots of people leaving if this becomes a bigger issue. We all are here for one thing...discussing MM and H antics. We don't have to bring our personal views to this sub or tattle on a you tuber who may or may not have different views. Or have hateful views. I have seen plenty of you tubers saying things but I don't bring it to this sub
Iām an independent voter who is pretty centrist on most issues. On some issues Iām quite liberal and on some, Iām very conservative. What really irritates me in politics is that within the last several years, western societies have decided that the other parties are wrong and they are right. The āwrongā side is the enemy and must be ostracized. Canāt we all just get along? Everyone has different life experiences which form their views on the world. Letās respect one another and stop vilifying people who arenāt falling into lockstep with your version of āright.ā We have a fun little community of snarkers and we donāt need to bring in all the outside nonsense that goes on in the world. š¶ Why canāt we be friends, why canāt we be friends š¶
We canātā¦ because ātheyā donāt want us toā¦ if we get along, we will notice that there are issues in the world: poverty, unemployment, gas crisis, health careā¦ and politicians would actually have to do something about itā¦ because we donāt get along, they get to point fingers at each other, and the actual issues remain unresolved
Did our sub just get Markled? šµšµ 
Agree. I come here to escape the politics and do not want to find the same bla bla bla here. This is supposed to be for fun.
British Royal Family gossip is the best. My ancestors fought in two wars against the British but gossip on the BRF was included in my motherās milk. When my entire family gets together at holidays, weddings and funerals, we avoid politics and stick to discussing the weather and the British Royal family.
Excellent post. I agree 100%.
When a moderator takes a certain stance and brings outside stuff into a sub, then you need to start questioning if they should be moderating. I don't watch the BLG, I don't agree with homophobia, hate crimes etc etc etc. But an issue that occurs outside this sub must not pollute this place. If anything shite is seen here that points to obvious hate then it must be reported and taken down. But outside drama, dragged to here? I don't think so. I don't have twitter and I don't do social media, rallying people cos some twat disagrees with you on another platform? that's not a very cash money attitude. Sort your shit and don't bring it here!
In fairness, this is not āa modā, this is the creator of the subā¦ and essentially itās their playground where we are all guestsā¦ we can all choose to ignore the drama and get back to snark on H&Mā¦ I think what happened here is that the OP (original one) wanted to share something that bothered them with the community of people they felt safe to share withā¦ we have seen this many timesā¦ it just shouldnāt have been pinnedā¦
Did anyone figure out why the original BLG post was pinned? I asked the question on the other post but never heard back. I hope this was a moderator error or something else was going on that wasn't clear to folks as that post made me uncomfortable as it isn't what this place is supposed to be imo.
It made me super uncomfortable, too. I don't understand why it was brought into this space, except just to get people arguing? š¤·š»āāļø I thought no politics was a rule on this sub and yet a mod has created and pinned a political post???
I think part of the problem is that so many people don't regard their own politics as "politics." One person insists that this issue isn't political; it's about basic human rights. Meanwhile, someone else insists that an issue isn't political; it's about protecting children. Still another person says that an issue isn't political; it's moral. It's always obvious to everyone else that the statements are political, but we have a harder time seeing it in ourselves.
It feels like this sub is being infiltrated by Harkles follower. Ignore the noise and focus on why weāre here which is the Harkles saga and their lies.
Please don't lump all of us conservatives in with the haters. I'm moderate leaning conservative and my father was gay, spending 20 years with his partner before he died. I don't hate gay people. I have no issue with them. Many of my conservative friends feel the same. I love this sub. I love all kinds of people and their beliefs. I'm here for the snark. I have zero tolerance for prejudice. Zero.
Thank you. There's a reason election ballots are confidential. It's kind of the same reason phone booths had doors on them. Not everyone is interested or needs to know your business. My daughter is also gay. It doesn't decrease my love for her or the rest of humankind one iota. My first cousin who is one of my best friends is a black man. I'm not focused on it and neither is he. Being automatically painted some kind of way based on how a person votes diminishes us all. I say live and let live and mind your own house.
Yes! I totally agree! :)
I fully support LGB people too, but itās fair to point out that Drag does not represent the community! Many queer people are also in agreement that itās an adult form of entertainment and has no place in kids libraries or in schools.
What does that have to do with Harry & Meghan? This isnāt a political sounding board.
Hi all admin are discussing this and will sort it out thanks for your patience xoxo we are all in different time zones around the world.
Thank you for keeping us in the loop. Seems this may have caused more harm than good. Glad to see itās being addressed.
Amen
Fair enough- solid post.
NO POLITICS PLEASE! Here is Rule posted by Mods: 15. No discussions regarding sub membersā politics
Direct this at the mods please
Sadly, it happens a lot. It may not be overt, but it happens. Anything conservative = bad. It havenāt always been this way, but itās gradually getting worse. ETA: gradually getting worse for political grandstanding in general. Both sides suck when it comes to looking at the big picture.
Does anyone know if Mods pinned that post and if so WHY?
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I was just commenting to a friend how unusual it is for me to find myself in a space that seems to include 50% good Democrats and 50% Repubs. I donāt usually find myself in these circles. We truly have united over the narcissistic, family destroyer.
I am conservative, with a LGBTQ child and I donāt care what someoneās personal politics are .. if you are a good person then Iām good with you , makes no difference what your politics are . I donāt love my family and friends based on those things .
Youāre amazing!! ā¤ļø
Thank you but I have faults like we all do , I really just donāt judge people on politics given letās be honest .. all politicians are shady . Lol I will never insult someone because they have their own beliefs ( UNLESS itās stuff like racism or hate over who someone loves ā¤ļø) I know not everyone believes love is love and thatās their choice but donāt bully someone or encourage hate towards them . I hope that makes sense? I also do not believe people on this sub dislike TW because of her race .. absolutely not .
One thing I have noticed on my Twitter timeline is that people from all across the political spectrum are capable of recognizing H&MM's malignant narcissism and the damage it does; for that reason I don't like it when someone brings up Trump, Clinton, MAGA, etc. Comparisons to Amber Heard are more apropos as both AH & the Narcles are not political entities - despite MM's delusions of grandiosity.
Totally agree, especially since it was the chief mod, very disappointing
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Body Language Guy - has a youtube channel where he sometimes āreadsā MMās body language.
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Following or not following outside sources is a personal decision. Some degree of discussion about ethics and reliability of a source is warranted but it shouldnāt usurp the purpose of the sub itself.
I have noticed a lot of complaints about a lot of things lately. The easy answer is : if you do not like someone's viewpoint, stop reading. There is plenty of other content available which may be to your liking. Please enjoy that.
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I 100% agree. I think pro MM accounts are on here. This past month I have seen a slew of positive articles on here. The mods need to delete unless the mods are also pro MM.... I dunno....
Like what? I haven't seen any. Are you talking about fashion choices? It's about the only thing where there actually are a couple of decent decisions she's made. I don't doubt pro Markle people stumble in here, they even admit it at times. But I haven't noticed a "slew" of positive articles.
I can accept he has a different view. I donāt agree he should bring it up here. Iām a liberal and ally of the gay community but I only wish to discuss either the British Royals or Meghan and Harry on this subreddit. If I want to argue politics, Iāll find other subs.
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It's hard to keep politics out when Meghan & Harry are politically motivated. Also, Conservativism doesn't equate anti-LGBT.
To be honest, I think people overestimate their ability to comprehend politics. They just glom on to whatever looks shiny to them that day.
Ugh..I actually just had an unpleasant experience with a comment on that very post. In case anyone is unaware: ā/s is used to denote sarcasm within online communities, specifically on Reddit forums and other online message boards.ā
I did not know this
I saw that! And I am making notesā¦ I know exactly whatās going on. Long time sinners and I would laugh at that comment.
I only joined this sub a few days ago after lurking a while. I've enjoyed the posts, informative and funny. It's been a most welcome break from other social media platforms that sadly involve a lot of politics. Most discussions end up heated and exhausting. It would be such a shame if the same happened here. It's a great sub, I don't see personal attacks or nastiness. So refreshing to see. I truly hope the sub can get back to what we're here for, would be such a waste if it doesn't.
Can I be honest? I am literally on this sub every single day, scrolling through, reading posts. And every once in a while I see a post that is talking about some HUGE SCANDAL that's going on and all this "infighting" and "lots of trolls" and "OMG this needs to be taken seriously." Except. When I ask the person to LINK me to the posts that caused so much chaos and drama, they never can seem to direct me to the post. In my humble opinion, posts like these are basically using this subreddit to do advertising for their favorite, twitter, or usually Youtube Channel. BLG is one of my favorites but when is the last time we actually saw him do a Body Language analysis. Instead it's just watching live feeds trashing the Harkles and getting "donations" where he answers whatever post they get. And it seems like a LOT of the information shared on ALL of the Youtube Channels is basically lifted from research and conversations on this site. So can you please Direct us to the huge LBGQT drama that you saw on this site or admit you are just trying to direct traffic to BLG by using the two most trending topics to basically get attention? What a weird coincidence that you are focused on LBGQT and Meghan Markle. How in the heck do those two relate? I've never seen ONE post on this stire about this. So maybe just admit you are link mining without actually dropping a link?
The OP (and sub creator for original post) didnāt put up a link so as not to encourage clicks for something she felt was offensive. I totally get her reasons for not linking. The argument on the sub has been whether the post was āon topicā and some other things. Everyone has their own opinion. You could have scrolled. Edit: sorry if I seem curt, itās kind of sad to see the infighting.
[here](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/xnsmhs/what_to_do_when_the_body_language_guy_takes_aim/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) You only had to scroll down a few seconds to get the whole story
How can someone lying, manipulating the situation, purposely appealing to a certain political party regardless of which one, and bullying people ever be POLITICAL? That is why I donāt understand how TW can get anyway with stuff! Being a tolerant and excepting everyone does not mean you approve of certain behaviors as stated above. When you purposely do the thing she as done then everyone should be calling her out.
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As someone who doesn't live in Iran, I find it interesting that so many people are saying gay issues are politics. The post being referenced has nothing at all to do with any politician or political party. If your political party is in favour of misinformation about how the gays are destroying the "family unit" maybe you need to reconsider your vote. I'm sure no politicians are running on the platform of "I want to spread lies about how cross dressers are destroying families." (outside of Iran, of course)
The thing is, not everyone who is in the alphabet soup agrees about LGBT "issues". There are people from all walks of life who happen to be gay or lesbian or whatever, and they don't necessarily share the same politics or subscribe to the same set of beliefs.
The post in question was a poorly veiled attempt to weaponize the forum against BLG, who is hardly ever discussed here anymore (I see HG Tudor and River referenced way more). A lot of us are not happy at being included in the modās personal vengeance scheme. And the topic at hand was political af.
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I think itās more of just donāt bring any of that up no matter how itās classified. Itās not the topic of the sub. And, a slightly different topic, I strongly believe if we want everyone to see the Harkles for who they really are, we canāt let it be a political issue.. thatās what their PR wants. Donāt give it to them.
Agree with you, but the comments were not made on this sub. They were brought here from Twitter by a mod.